When will we get a military FPS with an actually good single-player?

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#1 nameless12345
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These type of games are mostly played for the multi-player but I'm wondering if we'll ever see such a game with an actually good single-player campaign again?

The single-player in most such games is usually pretty short, limited and heavily scripted.

How about a long enough, varried, story-driven and generally enjoyable single-player with good AI and physics usage for a change?

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These type of games are mostly played for the multi-player but I'm wondering if we'll ever see such a game with an actually good single-player campaign again?

The single-player in most such games is usually pretty short, limited and heavily scripted.

How about a long enough, varried, story-driven and generally enjoyable single-player with good AI and physics usage for a change?

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Not for awhile, because devs are too scared to step outside of the comfort zone/"what sells" zone.

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#3 theuncharted34
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there have been military shooters with good campaigns. Like BC2.

But if you mean *great*, I'm not sure because the main focus of military shooters is usually online.

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#4 Wasdie  Moderator
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ArmA 2 OA actually had a decent one.

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#5 ChubbyGuy40
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there have been military shooters with good campaigns. Like BC2.

But if you mean *great*, I'm not sure because the main focus of military shooters is usually online.

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BC1 had a good campaign. BC2 was pretty awful unless it gets dramatically better after the first half. I can't bring myself to play that thing through.

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#6 CaseyWegner
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medal of honor? call of duty? brothers in arms?

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#7 nameless12345
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ArmA 2 OA actually had a decent one.

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It was also pretty short and bugged.

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#8 nameless12345
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medal of honor? call of duty? brothers in arms?

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Scripted bore-fests, all of them :P

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#9 ABCarmine
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Brothers of arms did it for me. And so did (Holds flame shield) Black ops........... what?

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#10 CaseyWegner
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ghost recon?

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#11 theuncharted34
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Brothers of arms did it for me. And so did (Holds flame shield) Black ops........... what?

ABCarmine

I'm not going to lie, BO actually had a decent campaign. The multiplayer was mediocre crap though :P

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#12 nameless12345
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ghost recon?

CaseyWegner

I tried GRAW but it was rather dull imo.

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#13 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

ghost recon?

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I tried GRAW but it was rather dull imo.

i was actually referring to the original ghost recon but...okay. :?

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

ghost recon?

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I tried GRAW but it was rather dull imo.

You just don't like anything lol.
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#15 ABCarmine
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

ghost recon?

nameless12345

I tried GRAW but it was rather dull imo.

Bf:BC1? Syphon Filters? Barbies playpal adventures?????

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CoD 2 imo. Best call of duty campaign, best wwii campaign. It's longer than an average shooter campaign too, which is a plus. Play it on veteran difficulty, it's amazing.
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#17 DarkLink77
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I have yet to play one.

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#18 ChubbyGuy40
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[QUOTE="ABCarmine"]

Brothers of arms did it for me. And so did (Holds flame shield) Black ops........... what?

theuncharted34

I'm not going to lie, BO actually had a decent campaign. The multiplayer was mediocre crap though :P

Black Ops actually did. It was the only redeeming quality about it. In reality the multiplayer was still the same crud I bash it on.

I forgot all about BiA. Probably because the last one was so terrible. Hopefully their new direction on the sequel will be awesome.

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#19 theuncharted34
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If you want to count The killzone games and Crysis 2 as military shooters, did you like those TC?

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#21 foxhound_fox
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We've had plenty already. All the Medal of Honor's up until (and including) Allied Assault. Call of Duty and United Offensive. Battlefield Bad Company's. Republic Commando.

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#22 VoodooHak
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Honestly, people that want a decent single player story in an FPS are in the minority. I think most people just want to shoot other people in the face. So why bother putting effort in a good single player FPS? They have been few and far between lately, and we're likely to see less and less of them.

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#23 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Black Ops' was quite good. MW3's looking good.
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#24 ethanradd
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The COD series has the best SP campaigns when it comes to military shooters, its just top notch, nothing comes close, but many would hate to admit it because of all the Activision/COD hate ...on the other hand BC & BC 2 SP campaigns were just meh to be quite honest

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#25 nameless12345
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If you want to count The killzone games and Crysis 2 as military shooters, did you like those TC?

theuncharted34

Not really interested in those.

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#26 Luxen90
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I have yet to play one.

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You should get Brothers in Arms: Road to Hill 30.
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#27 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

I have yet to play one.

Luxen90
You should get Brothers in Arms: Road to Hill 30.

Why bother? Military shooters are boring and uninspired as all hell anyhow.
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#28 ethanradd
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Black Ops' was quite good. MW3's looking good.IronBass

so was COD 2, COD 4, and MW2 (Ghost was awesome ...admit it:P)

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#29 ABCarmine
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[QUOTE="IronBass"]Black Ops' was quite good. MW3's looking good.ethanradd

so was COD 2, COD 4, and MW2 (Ghost was awesome ...admit it:P)

Yeah, Ghost was so awesome, such a badass nothing could kill hi- Oh, wait.... :P

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so was COD 2, COD 4, and MW2 (Ghost was awesome ...admit it:P)ethanradd
MW2 had it's moment. All the 141 missions were great, but I found the ones with the Rangers boring. And yes, Ghost ruled.
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#31 ethanradd
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[QUOTE="ethanradd"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"]Black Ops' was quite good. MW3's looking good.ABCarmine

so was COD 2, COD 4, and MW2 (Ghost was awesome ...admit it:P)

Yeah, Ghost was so awesome, such a badass nothing could kill hi- Oh, wait.... :P

I'm still hoping he might show up in MW3, though its doubtful, on the other hand I believe Roach might be back ...I've always thought maybe his name "Roach" was a hint, you know how they say its hard to kill a Roach ...just a thought

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#32 ABCarmine
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[QUOTE="ABCarmine"]

[QUOTE="ethanradd"]

so was COD 2, COD 4, and MW2 (Ghost was awesome ...admit it:P)

ethanradd

Yeah, Ghost was so awesome, such a badass nothing could kill hi- Oh, wait.... :P

I'm still hoping he might show up in MW3, though its doubtful, on the other hand I believe Roach might be back ...I've always thought maybe his name "Roach" was a hint, you know how they say its hard to kill a Roach ...just a thought

They brang back Price, anything can happen.

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[QUOTE="Luxen90"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

I have yet to play one.

DarkLink77

You should get Brothers in Arms: Road to Hill 30.

Why bother? Military shooters are boring and uninspired as all hell anyhow.

You best be trolling...

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Luxen90"] You should get Brothers in Arms: Road to Hill 30.Wasdie

Why bother? Military shooters are boring and uninspired as all hell anyhow.

You best be trolling...

Nope. :)
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#35 ABCarmine
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Why bother? Military shooters are boring and uninspired as all hell anyhow.DarkLink77

You best be trolling...

Nope. :)

I agree. Good thing they're not as pesky as those "I'm a badass in the middle of an alien infestation, time to kick some ass" games.

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Why bother? Military shooters are boring and uninspired as all hell anyhow.DarkLink77
Brothers in Arms: Road to Hill 30 is 9.99 on Steam, thank me later. I would even gift it to you if I had that extra money to put on games lol.

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#37 enterawesome
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Look to Call of Duty 4. Amazing campaign, even if it is a rail-shooter.
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#38 nameless12345
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[QUOTE="Luxen90"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

I have yet to play one.

DarkLink77

You should get Brothers in Arms: Road to Hill 30.

Why bother? Military shooters are boring and uninspired as all hell anyhow.

I thought the original Vietcong was pretty damn fun (save for the glitches).

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

You best be trolling...

ABCarmine

Nope. :)

I agree. Good thing they're not as pesky as those "I'm a badass in the middle of an alien infestation, time to kick some ass" games.

Nah, those are way more fun. Sometimes they even have crazy things like original weapon and enemy designs. :o
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#40 tutt3r
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COD:MW still has one of the best SP imo. Who cares if its short, if it delivers.

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What we need is a full stealth campaign. The "stealth" moments in CoD4 and MW2 were fun, albeit too scripted. Make a good one and let the MP get the whole shooter thing.
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#42 ABCarmine
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[QUOTE="ABCarmine"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Nope. :)DarkLink77

I agree. Good thing they're not as pesky as those "I'm a badass in the middle of an alien infestation, time to kick some ass" games.

Nah, those are way more fun. Sometimes they even have crazy things like original weapon and enemy designs. :o

And unfunny rape jokes and bad enemy A.I :o

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[QUOTE="ABCarmine"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Nope. :)DarkLink77

I agree. Good thing they're not as pesky as those "I'm a badass in the middle of an alien infestation, time to kick some ass" games.

Nah, those are way more fun. Sometimes they even have crazy things like original weapon and enemy designs. :o

you must be reffering back to the late 90's then huh :P

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#44 bbkkristian
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Modern Warfare series come to mind. It was good.And Battlefield Bad Company looks really great.
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What we need is a full stealth campaign. The "stealth" moments in CoD4 and MW2 were fun, albeit too scripted. Make a good one and let the MP get the whole shooter thing.IronBass
I think there was a WW2(Maybe?) stealth game released a couple of years ago where you play as this girl. I don't remember if it got praised or anything, but I assume it was bad since no one talks about it.

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I think there was a WW2 stealth game released a couple of years ago where you play as this girl. I don't remember if it got praised or anything, but I assume it was bad since no one talks about it. Luxen90
Velvet Assassin? It got relatively mediocre reviews (65 Metascore). I was interested in it, but the thing about stealth games is that if they're not very well made, every flaw can become quite frustrating.
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#47 nameless12345
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What we need is a full stealth campaign. The "stealth" moments in CoD4 and MW2 were fun, albeit too scripted. Make a good one and let the MP get the whole shooter thing.IronBass

Yeah that would be cool too. I had a lot of fun with Project IGI.

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#48 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="ABCarmine"]

I agree. Good thing they're not as pesky as those "I'm a badass in the middle of an alien infestation, time to kick some ass" games.

ABCarmine

Nah, those are way more fun. Sometimes they even have crazy things like original weapon and enemy designs. :o

And unfunny rape jokes and bad enemy A.I :o

Yes, because games that spend 15 years in development and change engines 4 times should be the standard of comparison for all FPS games like that. :roll:
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[QUOTE="Luxen90"]I think there was a WW2 stealth game released a couple of years ago where you play as this girl. I don't remember if it got praised or anything, but I assume it was bad since no one talks about it. IronBass
Velvet Assassin? It got relatively mediocre reviews (65 Metascore). I was interested in it, but the thing about stealth games is that if they're not very well made, every flaw can become quite frustrating.

Yeah, that's the game I'm thinking of. I agree, I don't really like a lot of stealth games, because of that. Love me some Hitman and Thief though.
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#50 Harisemo
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GRAW, BIA, CoD....