When's the last time MS has made a quality product?

Let me know because I'm trying to figure it out.

- Windows and Internet Explorer has always been a buggy mess.
- The Zune had a hideous design and limited funtionality.
- Windows phones used outdated UI and limited app support.
- The OG Xbox was massive and ugly.
- The 360 is notorious for bricking.
- The Xbone not only was outdated from the start internally but also externally in its design + still used a powerbrick that was almost as big as a Wii U.
- And finally, there was a study done showing that their Surface Pro laptops have a 25% failure rate after 2 years of use.

How can a massive company like MS be known for providing mediocre products and terrible services? Ever since its existence it has spent so much money trying to establish itself as a quality brand and yet nobody sees MS in that light at all.

The Xbox One S is a great product and the Elite controller is amazing.

Give it a rest... its getting old. Go play some games.

I had my original 360 7 years and it was still working when I sold it, try again.

there's nothing good to play

That sounds like a personal problem.

Click-bait headline with little to no information from Consumer Reports. As far as we know, a user that had their device freeze or an error in Windows would count as a "failed device". Consumer Reports hasn't actually released their data for scrutiny, especially when a few Surface Pro models had a number of sleep issues due to updates, all of which had been patched shortly after. Again, quite easy to get to 25% if that counts as a "failed device".

One should also keep in mind a lot of that data came from older Surface Pro devices, each iteration has improved drastically. Their current lineup:

Point being, 25% of Surface devices do not fail after 2 years, they also wouldn't get the highest consumer satisfaction by failing at such high rates:

Quick someone call the waaaambulance.

The Xbox 360 is one of my favorite consoles of all time. I love the Xbox One S. Everyone I talk to loves Win 10. Everyone loved Windows XP and 7. Xbox controllers are best.

you want some of this, pal?

According to EA DICE, XBO has the most efficient graphics API as of year 2017.

You're like a broken record. lol

Anyway the Xbox One S is certainly a quality product and soon the Xbox One X will be another one. Forza Horizon 3 is a high quality game and soon Forza Motorsport 7 will be another one as well.

The real question should be is when are you going to make a quality thread. :P

Since when did OP turn anti-MS?

I would argue the X1S is quality. It seems to work well to me. Other than that maybe the original Xbox. MS needs to step up their 1st party production. That needs a major uptick. Especially with the X1X to showcase its abilities.

I don't know about other MS products, and this is obviously a shit thread, but the OG Xbox and X1 are quality products.

Microsoft made such a great product that Sony copied them. Them fanboys should be happy. Also prepare for the worlds most powerful console, shit is gonna be funny.

@commander: good for you because I had to just recently replace a slim Xbox 360 e because of a disc drive issue

They do it because their fanboy well make excuses and buy that junk anyway. They purchase a console with no games or an extremely overpriced Studio.

1. Elite controller
2. One S
3. OG Xbox
4. 360 Elite/S
5. Xbox One

Pretty sure people liked Windows 7

Wasn't that hard coming from Vista

...and then they made Windows 8

And now I guess we're somewhere in the middle with windows 10

After getting used to 10, I'd rank it above 7 and even XP.

When did you ever make a good thread?

@primorandomguy: "Everyone loved Windows XP and 7."

Not a fan of the Xbox brand but Windows XP and Windows 7 were ok.

@lifelessablaze: Windows '95 was really not so bad.

Shit, there used to be a time when SW had some good trolls, nowadays trolling attempts are just pathetic ........

After a few revisions, the 360 was great. I also have a high opinion of Windows 10, in spite of it carrying baggage brought about by previous versions.

Also Office.

Even Ensemble Studios was bought out talent so no idea.

Other than game selection all there products are rock solid. As far as build quality goes, everything is at a much higher quality than Sony's products. If it wasnt for Playstations damn exclusives, I would never buy a Playstation....but games do make a console useful.

I really like most of MS products especially Xbox. I am not shady so I really like Windows 10. Keeps my stuff safe.

But I wanted to chime in on the Phones. I had one, and people that I know that have or had one really liked them. They were actually pretty awesome. The main problem is there is no App support. There were a couple apps I really had to have (for work) that were not available that made me ditch them. Really had some great features and U.I. layout.

NFL seems to be loving the Surface pros. Except when you see Brady or Rodgers throwing them after an INT replay. Not often with those guys though. lol

The Xbox One S seems to have a quality build. The surface pros also, although way too expensive. I absolutely hate Windows for many reasons. In America, we advertise our premium products usually coming out of Germany or Italy, or somewhere other than America. It's a little embarrassing as an American, but I agree other countries make Superior products. MS is an American company(engineered in the U.S.). Imagine if Germany engineered and made Xbox controllers? They'd probably be wrapped in Italian leather! Lol

@kuu2: The one that weighes 5lbs? I think that's the one I have also. Nice it has an i5 in it, but super heavy for a tablet.

Even though the X1S is a weak POS it's still well built. The Elite controller is also pretty good from what I've heard and seen.

Windows 10 is also pretty damn good too.

Xbox 360 controllers have lasted a decade for me before. They make amazing game controllers, Xbox one controllers are fantastic as well.

Windows 7 is the best OS ever made. Windows 10 is also on track to being really good, maybe even better than 7. The surface is amazing and highly touted by pretty much every tech outlet. Microsoft office is still the undisputed leader when it comes to word processing, power point, and spreadsheet applications. Visual Studio is the premier IDE for C, C++ and C#. Also, they created the C# programming language which is great. Zune was a fantastic piece of hardware but the lack of software killed it. Windows Phone was also great hardware and OS wise but killed by the same thing that killed the zune, lack of software. I haven't owned a 360 or Xbox One so I can't really comment on those. All in all Microsoft makes some of the best products in the world and don't let a childish video game console war taint your image of them.

Surface Pro 3, Surface Pro 4, Windows 7, Xbox 360

Windows 10 is really good, once the data collection crap is disabled.

@lifelessablaze You know you're in a no win situation when quadknight says good things about MS

Lets be honest and say all consoles are technically all weak PoS. Just some are better at being a weak PoS. :P The Xbox One X is a beast compared to all other consoles but technically speaking it is pretty weak when compared to tech in PCs. hahaha!

Xbox Live service is pretty good also.

When was the first time? LOL

I don't hate MS, I just think the Xbone sucks as a gaming system and it does. MS makes many other good products I'm happy to use.

Windows 10 is a quality product. The Xbox One S too. The X seems to be also.

The OG Xbox was a great piece of hardware.

@lifelessablaze:

My 360 RROD three times, but my Xbox One works as it should. I also have no problems with Windows 10. As for other Microsoft products, I simply don't own/use them.

Microsoft main problem is games. They still made the best controller for console.

Hardware isn't their strength.

Elite Controller for the XBone... that's about all I've got. I do like the XBone, works fine hasn't bricked for no reason yet, and I expect that the XBoneX will be a slam dunk of a console. But alas, the X doesn't yet exist so aside from software, I'd say Elite Controller is their best product to date.