Where Does Doom 2016 Rank in the list of Greatest of all time FPS?

Hi,

So my dear and lovely friends, New Doom is released and raise the bar high for FPS genre recently. but where do you think it will rank? Will it be classic in future? will it consider to be revival of FPS genre? lets discuss the influnce of this masterpiece.

I personally think its Best AAA FPS since Crysis 1. it is the game that open the door for other games in FPS genre and success of this game will lead to better future of FPS instead of same stale coll of doty and Battlefeelds.

Lets Discuss

It'll rank pretty low. Like I said in another thread today, it's too repetitive. I couldn't play more than one mission at a time. It wasn't a very challenging game either. With that being said the fast paced, excellent gunplay is a nice mechanic. It was very responsive. And finding secrets and weapon mods kept things interesting. I'd give it a 7.

Middle of the road. Good game. Not among the greatest.

It hasn't even been out a month and its already 20 bux, this game didn't have long legs at all.

The original Doom was a huge deal for a very long time and had huge legs.

Im thinking its in the top 7 of all time. Why not, its a fantastic game. And thats extremely rare for a shooter nowadays.

Haven't played enough of it to say, but from what I have played, Shadow Warrior was better.

not in any shape or form. Shadow warrior has terrible gunplay while Doom Gunplay is FEAR tier

The only useful weapon is Doom is the shotgun.

Shadow Warrior is far more balanced requiring a multitude of skills and weapons.

Overall it's better, which is great.

I'd say down there. I was completely hyped for this game and I bought it on the release day but I have yet to finish it...

At the very opposite of Shadow Warrior, which means it's among the best while SW is among the worst.

it's stood out more due to there being so few quality fps around in recent years imo. its hardly the most memorable of experiences, particularly when the formula for each mission seems to be not much more than let's introduce a new, more difficult to kill enemy, then let's quadruple the amount of new enemies we introduced in the previous mission and let's do it against a similar looking backdrop but maybe adjust the colour palette slightly. fun, but not a classic

Conan's really high on the game, I trust his taste, he likes good things. Personally I've always done the one game per series thing (kind of stupid i guess, but whatever), so if it's as good as OG Doom 1? Shit, it's damn near the top. Chances of anything in the modern era being that good? Not very high. There is a purity to Doom 1 that makes it exciting to go back to all these years later, it's kind of like going back to Mario. Simple, clean, satisfying Game. What a concept.

I found it a bit repetitive to be honest. Fun but glad I got it on sale

It's fun, it's a callback to old school FPS. But that's like calling late Egyptian art good just because it calls back to the Old/Middle Kingdom.

I'm finding I agree. Doom is great. I don't spank the bone to it like TC does, but it is great entertainment.

But shotgun, glory kill is all you need pretty much.

Shadow Warrior was plain fun to switch up weapons.

Cant agree with you on this. I own Doom 1&2 with my BFG on Steam. It was fun for a bit due to nostalgia and me and a buddy sharing memories of when we first played it but I couldn't stay with it. It just isn't all that entertaining anymore.

It's better than Half Life 2, I'll say that.

Sure it is, where modern games are fun for how much more complex they've gotten, or how atmospheric they can be, or what stories or they tell, or whatever. Doom was easy for me to go back to, because it's still good on a very fundamental level. To me it's no different than being able to go back to a Nintendo game. It's still mechanically enjoyable, it controls nicely, the gamefeel is ace to this day, and the levels are actually well thought out for how that game plays (unlike parts of Doom 2, which I think has moments that are hard for the sake of being hard, and not an actual good challenge).

Which is what I was implying by the Mario comparison. There is a pure gameness to it, kind of like going back to Tetris or playing Pacman Championship DX. Pure, unadulterated game, which on the triple A side unless it is Nintendo, we don't get those with any regularity. Things are more story driven or a little bit more "we do a bit of everything" and rightfully so, the market dictated that's where the money is at.

I got the point. I fired up Sonic the Hedgehog not long ago. I played 15 minutes haven't gone back since. Small bursts for me and some old games. They just do not hold me anymore. Now Deus Ex, Jade Empire, Half Life, MGS I can go back to and play play play. To each their own my friend.

Great game, but I prefer the more tactical approach that Crysis 1 and Warhead had. Those are still probably my top single player FPS games. Well, Stalker series might be tied with them, and then Metro series is right behind that.

Well yeah, those games provide context, they give reasons for why a lot of the gameplay exist. Not trying to pigeonhole your taste, but I say you respond to narratives and stories that can easily get you invested, or are fun. Half the reasons jrpgs aren't your shit, I'd say is just as much how silly everything is and how incoherent the visual direction is.

Me, I'm cool with whatever aesthetic so long as the mechanics are enjoyable. Not saying I can't dig a game for other reasons, but the games i respond to the best, tend to be more mechanically my thing. Or so good on the mechanics, that I don't even care if the story is several layers of stupid (Bayonetta for instance lol).

Speaking of which play Mankind Divided yet? I still need to finish through some other stuff before I'm gonna give Mankind Divided a go.

Doom definitely beat shadow warrior. Though i feel like Shadow Warrior 2 stands a chance at dethroning doom as the best modern shooter in the past 5 or 6 years.

@jg4xchamp: Yeah, I started it last night. Played a couple of hours. It looks great, and has started off interesting. I'm busy tonight getting my uncle to airport but hope to get into more later tonight.

Crysis is not tactical Shooter. its sandbox shooter with nanosuit gameplay.

Stalker is hybrid.

for what it aimed to be it is nearly perfect....its up there with the greats I would say. Its an easy recommendation I often make to friends. i guess the story could have been better, but i didnt get this game for the story

I haven't played it yet but I'll get there. Someone please tell me it is absolutely nothing like Shadow Warrior. I hated the original, the recent remake was one of the most boring and vacuous games ever made and I'm pretty sure the sequel will be full of shit too.

Anyone played SW (current gen) and Doom 2016 who can comment?

Yep.

Ignoring Shadow Warrior, having played Far Cry 4 recently enjoyed that alot more as well. Lots of different options how to do to play with lots of activities, big (if still very similar) improvement over 3.

I love the mechanics and gameplay and impressed by how great it looked and performed. Though I want more, I'd love a SP expansion, or another game.

It's weaknesses though, I really didn't like the bosses, they leave something to be desired. They definitely need to work on increasing enemy variety and more challenging battles.

Overall a very fun and gory game. One of my favorites for the year.

@blueinheaven: I'm playing Shadow Warrior right now and hate it, and Doom is one of the best FPS games I've ever played. A lot of it makes you wonder how SW did so much wrong on so many core aspects to its arena shooter roots.

Okay, mr. semantics.

It doesn't rank anywhere. It's barely been out a couple months. Come back to it in 5-7 years and we can make a proper conclusion about it's longevity and quality.

@jg4xchamp: Chances are he is high on something else when playing the game so not sure how much his judgment can be trusted.

Very lazy game. Maps with AI spawn and nothing else. No story, no missions, nothing. Boring shooter. Not even top 100

Not even top 50 probably. It's a good game. Solid 7/10. Level design is ass and the multiplayer is pointless. The gameplay is incredible though

because its not MP game?

I have not tried MP yet because everytime i tried i have to wait for ages for 3 people before i connect. last time i waited for more than half hour since then i didnot even give it try.

I rate it as pretty average, I enjoyed my play though but I don't see myself ever playing though it ever again.

It is an odd beast, It keeps most of what made the originals good, while being a very modern game. That clash is a bit odd. I would not say that is in the top 10, but it certainly is in the top 20.

It is not that it has pacing issues, but rather that it is so overly active that I tend to be a bit mentally exhausted after playing.

Oh and the MP is pretty damn average at best.

then it shouldn't have been in the game

then why there is multiplayer? single-player was meh. even worse than call of duty because call of duty every map was different and had different type missions and story but in here it's just huge empty boring map and AI just spawn front of you and all you do is just run, shoot, run, shoot.

Probably in my top 10 or top 20 list of best FPS I've ever played.

Still many FPS I rank better:

Half Life, Crysis, Day of Defeat, RTCW, MOHAA, Half Life 2

The story is you don't care about the story or lenghty cutscenes and just want to shoot stuff

No where

just wanna shoot stuff? this is same like people goes to cinema and watch transformers movie only because of action scenes. this proves how bad game is just to shoot stuff that spawn front of you.

Well for one I love silly shooters and games that don't take themselves too seriously.

On the other hand I hate garbage like Transformers movies.

So I wouldn't call it the same. In order for a game to be entertaining it needs to have a lot of fun gameplay. Something DOOM has a plenty.

In order for a movie to be entertaining I feel it should try to tell an interesting story without treating you like a moron. So no explosions every 5 seconds, beautiful side character that add nothing to the story, and no flashbacks to something that happened 5 seconds ago :/

Come on, it wasn't that good. The gunplay was fast paced and worked really well but the rest of the game was samey and pretty shit tbh.

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If we were to go back and play Return To Castle Wolfenstein very much an old school game on the cusp of the new. By contrast it has excellent pacing. Constant fire-fights but never barraging the player to the point of redundancy, with an astounding multiplayer having a justified existence. To this day, still played.

Doom seems mainly praised by the younger gamers who grew up on a diet of Halo and Metriod Prime. Possibly going back for 10 minutes to play Doom 2 to pay homage and then claiming they understand it.

It's more a pew pew game, than one that requires any skill or thinking. Even the pew pew aspect is undermined by severe imbalance and what is tantamount to press X to win.

Really, if you just want to shoot stuff mindlessly, without the nuance or thought of a much better game like Shadow Warrior, just mod Serous Sam 3 to fix it's poor weapons. This also has terrible pacing, but at least it throws a billion enemies on screen.

I love Return To Castle Wolfenstein. Balanced single-player game. I love sound, design, gameplay and story. But for me Doom is same like Sam 3 game.

I agree. Sexy Nazi's with incredible strafing.

Serious sam 3 is incredibly bornig, bland and dull shooter. and play more like console shooter. the game has no pacing at all.

I love RTCW. one of my fav of all time. but Doom surpassed it imo.

I dunno, I love the progression in RTCW. You are fighting normal soldiers, female nazi super soldiers, all the way up to occult monsters in RTCW.

For DOOM it's mostly hell stuff, which in itself is very cool. But it's a major throwback to old DOOM games.

Plus RTCW had that amazing multiplayer.

RTCW > DOOM