Where is Valve's Source Engine 2? Half-Life 3?

Every PC gamer and hardcore gamer know that when Half-Life 2 came out with Source Engine, it was the greatest graphics engine created. No other developer came close to rivaling Half-Life 2's graphics and physics for a LONG time. It took the gaming world by storm. Now there are only a few improvements here and there but the question is...

Where is Source Engine 2.0? Where is Half-Life 3? Where is Valve's motivation to set the standard with visuals and blow away everything in it's way?

I am hoping for a Half-Life 3 but we don't even have a hint for Episode 3. Is Valve losing it?

They're most likely working on something secret at the moment, unless you want to believe the whole of Valve is working on Dota 2.

You just answered your own question, if they're making a brand new engine those things take time. It wouldn't surprise me if they came full circle and made a brand new engine for Episode 3 and that's why this is taking its time, it's been 4 years and that's a wee bit ridiculous for one episode, but it could well be the end to a lot of amazing characters so it's something that shouldn't be rushed.bobbetybob

It could be the end? I certainly hope Episode 3 would not be the last. That would be an unfitting end to the series by having the end of the franchise be on 3 separate episodes.

Some of their past comments give the impression that they are making a new graphics engine, but it will be more of a next gen type tech.ferret-gamer

$100 says half-life 3 won't even be a PC exclusive and wont continue the story of the first games.

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]Some of their past comments give the impression that they are making a new graphics engine, but it will be more of a next gen type tech.lawlessx

$100 says half-life 3 won't even be a PC exclusive and wont continue the story of the first games.

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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]Some of their past comments give the impression that they are making a new graphics engine, but it will be more of a next gen type tech.Morrdecai

$100 says half-life 3 won't even be a PC exclusive and wont continue the story of the first games.

Who knows.

I'm betting we won't even hear anything about the new engine until it's ready to be shown, which could be years off. We know they won't stick to the Source engine forever, but how long will they continue to drag it out?

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if they announced L4D3 debuting the new engine instead of HL3. Or maybe that new HL universe co-op game we've been hearing mumblings about.

Im not sure why people keep thinking they are making a new engine when they have said repetedly that their not.

it was the greatest graphics engine created.

Blazerdt47

half life is boring but soruce engine 3 could be cool. I like making maps on zombie panic feels nice seeing people play my levels.

Every PC gamer and hardcore gamer know that when Half-Life 2 came out with Source Engine, it was the greatest graphics engine created. No other developer came close to rivaling Half-Life 2's graphics and physics for a LONG time. It took the gaming world by storm. Now there are only a few improvements here and there but the question is...

Where is Source Engine 2.0? Where is Half-Life 3? Where is Valve's motivation to set the standard with visuals and blow away everything in it's way?

I am hoping for a Half-Life 3 but we don't even have a hint for Episode 3. Is Valve losing it?

Blazerdt47

There is no Half-Life 3. There's no Episode 3 for that matter, although that wasn't a thing since '08. There's probably some crappy concept artwork in Gabe's desk somewhere that he hasn't peered into for three years. Everyone's too busy stealing Blizzard franchises and making TF2 hats.enterawesome

How is DOTA even REMOTELY a Blizzard franchise? Blizzard was not involved in the conceptualization, creation, design, or support of DOTA... All they did was make the game for which DOTA is a mod, and their EULA doesn't state that they own derivative works.

Argue all you want about whether Icefrog working for Valve makes them valid people to make a sequel, but don't claim that DOTA is a Blizzard franchise, because it isn't.

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]Some of their past comments give the impression that they are making a new graphics engine, but it will be more of a next gen type tech.lawlessx

$100 says half-life 3 won't even be a PC exclusive and wont continue the story of the first games.

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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]Some of their past comments give the impression that they are making a new graphics engine, but it will be more of a next gen type tech.tagyhag

$100 says half-life 3 won't even be a PC exclusive and wont continue the story of the first games.

Instead of it just looking better, I'm really interested in how they will optimize cutting edge graphics and make it playable and still look good on a wide range of machines, like source. Doom 3 and Far Cry both looked better than Half Life 2, and were more advanced I believe. But what made the source engine compete is that it looked great even on very low end hardware, and I'm looking forward to the next iteration of that mentality.

I just want them to finish the current story with episode 3... then just launch half-life 3 on a brand new source engine! Its the perfect strategy!!!

Like anything valve does its slow valve tends to make an engine then suck that engine dry then move on it was the same way with all past releases of their games it will be the same with all current engines.

we'll likely not see half life 3 till next generation.

P.S: by the way I'm not saying thats a bad thing infact I usually applaud it but Im just laying out the facts.

There is no Half-Life 3. There's no Episode 3 for that matter, although that wasn't a thing since '08. There's probably some crappy concept artwork in Gabe's desk somewhere that he hasn't peered into for three years. Everyone's too busy stealing Blizzard franchises and making TF2 hats.enterawesome

I'm sure the community makes most of the hats in TF2 ;)

Every PC gamer and hardcore gamer know that when Half-Life 2 came out with Source Engine, it was the greatest graphics engine created. Blazerdt47

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]Some of their past comments give the impression that they are making a new graphics engine, but it will be more of a next gen type tech.lawlessx

$100 says half-life 3 won't even be a PC exclusive and wont continue the story of the first games.

$9000 says it will sell 1 million copies the second it gets on steam and people will pay an extra $90 for hats and to see Gordons legs.

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Every PC gamer and hardcore gamer know that when Half-Life 2 came out with Source Engine, it was the greatest graphics engine created. vashkey

That's because your comparing a game against a developer. Call of Duty looks the same year in year out to an extent that I can't even distinguish which one is which.

Valve games on the other hand have their own visual identity, TF2 doesn't look like L4D, and neither look like Portal. They have explored different avenues with the Source Engine, and have come out with unique looking games. It also helps that they don't release umpteen versions of TF, L4D and Portal.

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Every PC gamer and hardcore gamer know that when Half-Life 2 came out with Source Engine, it was the greatest graphics engine created. Tresca_

That's because your comparing a game against a developer. Call of Duty looks the same year in year out to an extent that I can't even distinguish which one is which.

Valve games on the other hand have their own visual identity, TF2 doesn't look like L4D, and neither look like Portal. They have explored different avenues with the Source Engine, and have come out with unique looking games. It also helps that they don't release umpteen versions of TF, L4D and Portal.

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[QUOTE="vashkey"] No. The topic does bring up a good point. Why does Call of Duty get criticized for sitting the same graphics engine an entire console generation but Valve gets a free pass?

vashkey

That's because your comparing a game against a developer. Call of Duty looks the same year in year out to an extent that I can't even distinguish which one is which.

Valve games on the other hand have their own visual identity, TF2 doesn't look like L4D, and neither look like Portal. They have explored different avenues with the Source Engine, and have come out with unique looking games. It also helps that they don't release umpteen versions of TF, L4D and Portal.

You've just said it. That is the reason they get criticised. What can CoD bring to the table every year that is new through that engine? When you limit yourself to making a game anually for a single franchise there isn't much room to maneuver.

It only makes sense that if you are sticking with the same engine that you would develop different games in order to prevent things stagnating from a visual perspective.

Valve have managed to do that. The plethora of CoD developers have not, and they don't mind cause it's selling regardless; they don't feel the need to create something new and original.

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That's because your comparing a game against a developer. Call of Duty looks the same year in year out to an extent that I can't even distinguish which one is which.

Valve games on the other hand have their own visual identity, TF2 doesn't look like L4D, and neither look like Portal. They have explored different avenues with the Source Engine, and have come out with unique looking games. It also helps that they don't release umpteen versions of TF, L4D and Portal.

Tresca_

You've just said it. That is the reason they get criticised. What can CoD bring to the table every year that is new through that engine? When you limit yourself to making a single franchise anually there isn't much room to maneuver.

It only makes sense that if you are sticking with the same engine that you would develop different games in order to prevent things stagnating from a visual perspective.

Valve have managed to do that. The plethora of CoD developers have not, and they don't mind cause it's selling regardless; they don't feel the need to create something new and original.

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Every PC gamer and hardcore gamer know that when Half-Life 2 came out with Source Engine, it was the greatest graphics engine created. No other developer came close to rivaling Half-Life 2's graphics and physics for a LONG time. It took the gaming world by storm. Now there are only a few improvements here and there but the question is...

Where is Source Engine 2.0? Where is Half-Life 3? Where is Valve's motivation to set the standard with visuals and blow away everything in it's way?

I am hoping for a Half-Life 3 but we don't even have a hint for Episode 3. Is Valve losing it?

Inconsistancy

I happen to have Far Cry, Doom 3 and Half Life 2 installed on my rig right now and I must say Half Life 2 looks the best of them maxed out (while Far Cry being the worst).

I happen to have Far Cry, Doom 3 and Half Life 2 installed on my rig right now and I must say Half Life 2 looks the best of them maxed out (while Far Cry being the worst).

BlbecekBobecek

I think Doom 3 looks better. Sure the levels are smaller but it's still pretty damn impressive, there can be a lot of light sources each one of them projecting shadows and the textures are beast. I've been playing a bit with the sikk mod and it makes it look even better.



I have mad respect for the Source engine though. Can't wait to see what Source 2 is capable of.

Let's hope we can easily alt tab out of their future games running on a new engine.

That's the only feature I want! :cry:

Well, they don't want a repeat of the Half life 2 release, do they?

Hl2 looked awesome, but back then I still prefered the IDTECH 4 (Doom 3) engine over the source engine.

IDTECH4 - SOURCE - CRYENGINE

best engines of 2004

Valve can't count to 3.