Where will the 100+ million ps2 fanbase go?

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#1 Juice_24
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Ps2 sports casual= 360 (look at madden sales)

Ps2 casual (ie DDR singstar ect)=wii

Ps2 Kid gamer(the rachet and dragon ball z kid on fans)=WII

Ps2 action gamer=split between the ps3 and 360 and wii (wii for the cost factor)

ps2 hardcore RPg gamer=hard to tell until wii gets it together with the rpgs

discuss. do you agree?

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They'll go to Mars. :|
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Too early to say. The Wii has yet to prove it can maintain a steady supply of games, the 360 has yet to fix its reliability issues and hasn't proven it has reached a much broader audience than the Xbox did, and the PS3 has yet to prove it can compete at its pricepoint(s). I'd say most likely the Wii because we should be seeing more (good) Wii 3rd party titles in the coming months and its the cheapest console.

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#4 ff7isnumbaone
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yea because the about of poeple who own and wii and ps3 equal 100 million. lol

most still playing ps2 , few of them own ps3/360.

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#5 -Renegade
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most are still playing them.. there's only been 28 million next generation consoles sold between the big 3.
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#6 nivet14
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They are still playing their ps2.
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#7 Gamer46
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Playing PS2 while they wait for Sony to make PS3 available at a more reasonable price.
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#8 mjarantilla
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I don't know about you, but I think they're all mostly going to the Wii.
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#9 Jynxzor
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There all stuck to the PS2, it wont let them go.
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#10 XenoNinja
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theres only a 5 million+ PS2 fanbase, it only seems like 100 million+ because each PS2 owner bought 20+ PS2's due to lasers failing at life.
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#11 logan493
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With a $399 PS3 coming out I'm sure we'll see PS3 gain many people, people have been waiting for the PS3 to go down and there you go. Some might buy a wii, maybe even a lot but they'll buy a PS3 and/or 360 too because, well, they don't use wiimotes for everygame known to man. A good chunk will stay with the PS brand.

Edit: yeah, I got my PS2 at launch and still have it working hard. You could say the same thing about RROD, yes ? I like the system and all but how many of those consoles do you think are people that just picked up a new one.

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#12 omarguy01
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there's no way of telling. its not like they're some sort of unified... mind or something that all look for the same thing in their games. some will move on to 360, others to ps3, others to wii, others to pc, and others to a combination of any of these
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#13 bigLLL
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ahh playing there ps2 until the ps3 becomes cheaper and the playstation gems come out, ratchet is really the first, then GT5, metal gear, ff13, I find it amusing 360 fans actually think it will outsell the ps3 in it's lifetime expect a massive comeback when the ps2 owner cross over, 360 will finish last this gen unless the Wii craze dies down but little kids luv the Wii
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#14 madterps
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theres only a 5 million+ PS2 fanbase, it only seems like 100 million+ because each PS2 owner bought 20+ PS2's due to lasers failing at life.XenoNinja

I honestlyhope you're just a fake boy and don't actually believe the crap that are coming out of your mouth.

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I think a pretty big chunk will go to the Wii, I agree with the 360 and the sport titles and multiplats in general, thanks to price.
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[QUOTE="XenoNinja"]theres only a 5 million+ PS2 fanbase, it only seems like 100 million+ because each PS2 owner bought 20+ PS2's due to lasers failing at life.madterps

I honestlyhope you're just a fake boy and don't actually believe the crap that are coming out of your mouth.

Okay so he took it to an extreme but the fact remains sony never had 100million+ owners of the ps2
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#17 Gamer46
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I think a pretty big chunk will go to the Wii, I agree with the 360 and the sport titles and multiplats in general, thanks to price.user_nat

A lot of PS2 owners play GTA, Tekken, Metal Gear Solid, and the main games in theFinal Fantasy series. You don't see those titles on Wii yet and I don't think they will be there. Then there is the stuff from Sony that they love, Gran Turismo, Ratchet and Clank, Jak and Daxter, Twisted Metal, God of War. None of those will be anywhere else.

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[QUOTE="XenoNinja"]theres only a 5 million+ PS2 fanbase, it only seems like 100 million+ because each PS2 owner bought 20+ PS2's due to lasers failing at life.madterps

I honestlyhope you're just a fake boy and don't actually believe the crap that are coming out of your mouth.

why is he a fakeboy. i went thru 3 ps2 due to laser problems.the 1st one died after the warrenty expired (90 days) i had to buy a new one because sony wanted to charge me for the repairs. the 2nd died on me a year later same result. the 3rd on died 9 months later after that. thats when people started complaining and a lawsuit was filed. then and only then did sony fix it for free. moral of the story is ps2 had problems and just because it didn't happen to your system. doesn't mean it didn't happen.
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[QUOTE="user_nat"]I think a pretty big chunk will go to the Wii, I agree with the 360 and the sport titles and multiplats in general, thanks to price.Gamer46

A lot of PS2 owners play GTA, Tekken, Metal Gear Solid, and the main games in theFinal Fantasy series. You don't see those titles on Wii yet and I don't think they will be there. Then there is the stuff from Sony that they love, Gran Turismo, Ratchet and Clank, Jak and Daxter, Twisted Metal, God of War. None of those will be anywhere else.

Well GTA, is on the 360 now. (which should prove popular thanks to price)

Final Fantasy definently will push some units, in Japan in particular. GT is definently big.

The rest of the titles you listed sell around 3m or less, and they probably have alot of cross over fans. So its far from securing its entire 100m fanbase back. Infact, those games probably only account for 30m of them, leaving 70m.. out there.

In Pal regions, it does have a few other big system pushing games, like Singstar, Buzz! and Eyetoy.

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[QUOTE="madterps"]

[QUOTE="XenoNinja"]theres only a 5 million+ PS2 fanbase, it only seems like 100 million+ because each PS2 owner bought 20+ PS2's due to lasers failing at life.EmpCom

I honestlyhope you're just a fake boy and don't actually believe the crap that are coming out of your mouth.

Okay so he took it to an extreme but the fact remains sony never had 100million+ owners of the ps2


If only we had some reasonably recent attach rate for PS2.
Lots of people buy it because the games are easily burned.
This is not the case on the Wii.
Then again, the Wii is cheap.
And they don't seem too bothered with having state of the art presentation. Unlikely to have HD tv.
The x360 has a nice library but i don't think they lack an ammount of games to play.
I think the PS3 is and will remain just too expensive, especially since it uses blueray discs (sp), and that x360's online fee scares them off too (not so much the amount but the thought).
Yeah i bet on wii for now.
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[QUOTE="Gamer46"]

[QUOTE="user_nat"]I think a pretty big chunk will go to the Wii, I agree with the 360 and the sport titles and multiplats in general, thanks to price.user_nat

A lot of PS2 owners play GTA, Tekken, Metal Gear Solid, and the main games in theFinal Fantasy series. You don't see those titles on Wii yet and I don't think they will be there. Then there is the stuff from Sony that they love, Gran Turismo, Ratchet and Clank, Jak and Daxter, Twisted Metal, God of War. None of those will be anywhere else.

Well GTA, is on the 360 now. (which should prove popular thanks to price)

Final Fantasy definently will push some units, in Japan in particular. GT is definently big.

The rest of the titles you listed sell around 3m or less, and they probably have alot of cross over fans. So its far from securing its entire 100m fanbase back. Infact, those games probably only account for 30m of them, leaving 70m.. out there.

In Pal regions, it does have a few other big system pushing games, like Singstar, Buzz! and Eyetoy.

I guess we'll see. I thought GoW had a bigger fanbase than what you said, could be wrong though.

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[QUOTE="madterps"]

[QUOTE="XenoNinja"]theres only a 5 million+ PS2 fanbase, it only seems like 100 million+ because each PS2 owner bought 20+ PS2's due to lasers failing at life.v-vega75

I honestlyhope you're just a fake boy and don't actually believe the crap that are coming out of your mouth.

why is he a fakeboy. i went thru 3 ps2 due to laser problems.the 1st one died after the warrenty expired (90 days) i had to buy a new one because sony wanted to charge me for the repairs. the 2nd died on me a year later same result. the 3rd on died 9 months later after that. thats when people started complaining and a lawsuit was filed. then and only then did sony fix it for free. moral of the story is ps2 had problems and just because it didn't happen to your system. doesn't mean it didn't happen.

I'm supposed to believe that 5 million people keep buying 24 consoles each? :roll: BTW, I bought my PS2 and it has worked for 4 years and hadno problems.

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#23 XenoNinja
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[QUOTE="v-vega75"][QUOTE="madterps"]

[QUOTE="XenoNinja"]theres only a 5 million+ PS2 fanbase, it only seems like 100 million+ because each PS2 owner bought 20+ PS2's due to lasers failing at life.madterps

I honestlyhope you're just a fake boy and don't actually believe the crap that are coming out of your mouth.

why is he a fakeboy. i went thru 3 ps2 due to laser problems.the 1st one died after the warrenty expired (90 days) i had to buy a new one because sony wanted to charge me for the repairs. the 2nd died on me a year later same result. the 3rd on died 9 months later after that. thats when people started complaining and a lawsuit was filed. then and only then did sony fix it for free. moral of the story is ps2 had problems and just because it didn't happen to your system. doesn't mean it didn't happen.

I'm supposed to believe that 5 million people keep buying 24 consoles each? :roll: BTW, I bought my PS2 and it has worked for 4 years and hadno problems.

okay, I may have over exaggerated but it still ain't anywhere near the 100 million+ fanbase most people seem to think it is, because I also owned three PS2's due to the lasers failing.

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#24 DeathIsARight
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most are still playing them.. there's only been 28 million next generation consoles sold between the big 3.-Renegade

Nobody knows what console the people who got a current gen one had last gen...or even if they did. They don't poll these things. How does anybody know if the current 360 base had a xbox last gen...or how many are multiple system owners? I am going PSWii this gen but the sales will only say +1 for each system. No way of knowing.

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[QUOTE="Gamer46"]

[QUOTE="user_nat"]I think a pretty big chunk will go to the Wii, I agree with the 360 and the sport titles and multiplats in general, thanks to price.user_nat

A lot of PS2 owners play GTA, Tekken, Metal Gear Solid, and the main games in theFinal Fantasy series. You don't see those titles on Wii yet and I don't think they will be there. Then there is the stuff from Sony that they love, Gran Turismo, Ratchet and Clank, Jak and Daxter, Twisted Metal, God of War. None of those will be anywhere else.

Well GTA, is on the 360 now. (which should prove popular thanks to price)

Final Fantasy definently will push some units, in Japan in particular. GT is definently big.

The rest of the titles you listed sell around 3m or less, and they probably have alot of cross over fans. So its far from securing its entire 100m fanbase back. Infact, those games probably only account for 30m of them, leaving 70m.. out there.

In Pal regions, it does have a few other big system pushing games, like Singstar, Buzz! and Eyetoy.

GTA was on the Xbox last gen just 6 months later. FF will be huge and MGS4 will be too. I think both could sell 7 million plus worldwide.

(Lemmings, 7 million plus in their lifetime and the PS3's install base will be higher than that by the time they are released and each will push systems....You know that!)

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[QUOTE="user_nat"][QUOTE="Gamer46"]

[QUOTE="user_nat"]I think a pretty big chunk will go to the Wii, I agree with the 360 and the sport titles and multiplats in general, thanks to price.DeathIsARight

A lot of PS2 owners play GTA, Tekken, Metal Gear Solid, and the main games in theFinal Fantasy series. You don't see those titles on Wii yet and I don't think they will be there. Then there is the stuff from Sony that they love, Gran Turismo, Ratchet and Clank, Jak and Daxter, Twisted Metal, God of War. None of those will be anywhere else.

Well GTA, is on the 360 now. (which should prove popular thanks to price)

Final Fantasy definently will push some units, in Japan in particular. GT is definently big.

The rest of the titles you listed sell around 3m or less, and they probably have alot of cross over fans. So its far from securing its entire 100m fanbase back. Infact, those games probably only account for 30m of them, leaving 70m.. out there.

In Pal regions, it does have a few other big system pushing games, like Singstar, Buzz! and Eyetoy.

GTA was on the Xbox last gen just 6 months later. FF will be huge and MGS4 will be too. I think both could sell 7 million plus worldwide.

(Lemmings, 7 million plus in their lifetime and the PS3's install base will be higher than that by the time they are released and each will push systems....You know that!)

San Andreas was on the xbox 6 months later, GTA 3 was on the xbox 2 year later (in the form of Double Pack with VC), which means the GTA fanbase was pretty much established on the PS2. Last gen PS2 was cheaper also.

This time round, the 360 is cheaper, and same day launch. Although I do think that GTA 4 will sell very well on the PS3 anyhow. Just cause to a lot of people GTA = Playstation.

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#27 thefjk
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Playing PS2 while they wait for Sony to make PS3 available at a more reasonable price.Gamer46
Yeah defenately... cuz if they are as casual as the thread creator makes them out to be, they'll defenately have no clue about anything else.
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Most will probably stick with the PS2 for another 1 year or 2.

But I think most will eventually head to the PS3, with some heading to the 360 and Wii. I think gaming in general is going to get a lot bigger over the next few years so I don't think it would be surprising to see all 3 consoles sell extremely well (or at least 2).

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San Andreas was on the xbox 6 months later, GTA 3 was on the xbox 2 year later (in the form of Double Pack with VC), which means the GTA fanbase was pretty much established on the PS2. Last gen PS2 was cheaper also.

This time round, the 360 is cheaper, and same day launch. Although I do think that GTA 4 will sell very well on the PS3 anyhow. Just cause to a lot of people GTA = Playstation.

user_nat

GTAIV isn't going to be as big as the last few GTAs (unfortunately).

And I think a lot of people will be surprised at how many people buy a PS3 for that game. You gotta take into account how the public will see the PS3 at the time of IV's release. Halo 3 was this year, while Sony's system sellers are next year. Hype's gonna go Sony's way. It all adds up.

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[QUOTE="DeathIsARight"][QUOTE="user_nat"][QUOTE="Gamer46"]

[QUOTE="user_nat"]I think a pretty big chunk will go to the Wii, I agree with the 360 and the sport titles and multiplats in general, thanks to price.user_nat

A lot of PS2 owners play GTA, Tekken, Metal Gear Solid, and the main games in theFinal Fantasy series. You don't see those titles on Wii yet and I don't think they will be there. Then there is the stuff from Sony that they love, Gran Turismo, Ratchet and Clank, Jak and Daxter, Twisted Metal, God of War. None of those will be anywhere else.

Well GTA, is on the 360 now. (which should prove popular thanks to price)

Final Fantasy definently will push some units, in Japan in particular. GT is definently big.

The rest of the titles you listed sell around 3m or less, and they probably have alot of cross over fans. So its far from securing its entire 100m fanbase back. Infact, those games probably only account for 30m of them, leaving 70m.. out there.

In Pal regions, it does have a few other big system pushing games, like Singstar, Buzz! and Eyetoy.

GTA was on the Xbox last gen just 6 months later. FF will be huge and MGS4 will be too. I think both could sell 7 million plus worldwide.

(Lemmings, 7 million plus in their lifetime and the PS3's install base will be higher than that by the time they are released and each will push systems....You know that!)

San Andreas was on the xbox 6 months later, GTA 3 was on the xbox 2 year later (in the form of Double Pack with VC), which means the GTA fanbase was pretty much established on the PS2. Last gen PS2 was cheaper also.

This time round, the 360 is cheaper, and same day launch. Although I do think that GTA 4 will sell very well on the PS3 anyhow. Just cause to a lot of people GTA = Playstation.

1. I already said that, I got the DP for the xbox.

2. The 360 will only be cheaper by 50 bucks and the PS3 will have MGS4 around the same time....Combine those 2..and Little Big Planet and UT3 might be out around then too.....and a 399 system? Lord!

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100 Million PS1 owners go to PS2, slowly. Same thing will happen again, PS2-PS3.

Now lets point and laugh at anyone stupid enough to believe/claim otherwise.

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Well at least 50 mill of that install base is casuals so they will probs flock over to the Wii,while the 20 mill or so hardcore fanbase have either bought a 360/ps3 or are waiting for the ps3's big titles to come out next eyar along with some price drops.

And the other 30 mill probs don't really care.

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[QUOTE="v-vega75"][QUOTE="madterps"]

[QUOTE="XenoNinja"]theres only a 5 million+ PS2 fanbase, it only seems like 100 million+ because each PS2 owner bought 20+ PS2's due to lasers failing at life.madterps

I honestlyhope you're just a fake boy and don't actually believe the crap that are coming out of your mouth.

why is he a fakeboy. i went thru 3 ps2 due to laser problems.the 1st one died after the warrenty expired (90 days) i had to buy a new one because sony wanted to charge me for the repairs. the 2nd died on me a year later same result. the 3rd on died 9 months later after that. thats when people started complaining and a lawsuit was filed. then and only then did sony fix it for free. moral of the story is ps2 had problems and just because it didn't happen to your system. doesn't mean it didn't happen.

I'm supposed to believe that 5 million people keep buying 24 consoles each? :roll: BTW, I bought my PS2 and it has worked for 4 years and hadno problems.

so are you saying is that people that had the dreded dre problem is a lie because you never had a problem. i've never had a problem with my 360 and even I know and accept that they have problems.
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theres only a 5 million+ PS2 fanbase, it only seems like 100 million+ because each PS2 owner bought 20+ PS2's due to lasers failing at life.XenoNinja

Fanboys like you makes me ashamed for being a gamer.

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Since the PS2 is still selling pretty good, my guess would be that they're still playing thier PS2s. Slowly they will move on to the next gen some sooner than others.

Not every one is into gaming like most of us. The current gen is here and people are still just buying PS2s so I expect that it will be a while before some of these folks migrate to the PS3/360/Wii.

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they are playing their ps2 since the PS3 isn't B/C (40 GB)...
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i guess im one of those people.. im still living in the previous gen, playing ps2 and computer. i've weighed up all the consoles.. ps3 has excellent hardware.. but the 360 has the games.. and thats what i want - im getting a 360
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The kids and girls who had PS2s will go with Wii for now, a few college aged dudes will go with 360s, but most are waiting for price drops and games from PS3. PS3 will last long enough on the market to satisfy most of PS2s install base.

For every day that PS3 costs significantly more than Xbox 360, and has not as many good games is a day that PS3 loses another sale. PS3 won't be as popular as PS2, but it will still be a major success. I'm thinking 80-90 Million in 10 years for PS3. 35-45 Million in 7 years for Xbox 360. And like 100 - 120 Million Wiis sold in 5 years.

As for PSP and DS, DS will last 4 more years and will sell 120 Million. PSP will last 5 more years and sell 70 Million.

/analyzation

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#39 Tylendal
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there's no way of telling. its not like they're some sort of unified... mind or something that all look for the same thing in their games. some will move on to 360, others to ps3, others to wii, others to pc, and others to a combination of any of theseomarguy01

WE. ARE. THE. COWS.

SUB. MIT. TO. OUR. WILL.

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#40 Adrian_Cloud
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They will most likely get a PS3, its not like PS2 had a user base of 100 million in 2 year? I think it took around 6 years.
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#41 heaven_in_hell
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Ps2 sports casual= 360 (look at madden sales)

Ps2 casual (ie DDR singstar ect)=wii

Ps2 Kid gamer(the rachet and dragon ball z kid on fans)=WII

Ps2 action gamer=split between the ps3 and 360 and wii (wii for the cost factor)

ps2 hardcore RPg gamer=hard to tell until wii gets it together with the rpgs

discuss. do you agree?

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No i dont agree