Which console is best for Shoot 'em ups?

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#1 Tony-Baxter
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#2 Nintendo_Ownes7
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Current Gen I would say Wii it has a lot of SHMUPs.

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PC has Touhou
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#5 LegatoSkyheart
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Define "Shoot'em Ups".

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PS2, Saturn, and the Xbox 360.

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Define "Shoot'em Ups".

LegatoSkyheart

I don't know what the TC is talking about but I'm going with SHMUPs In that link it talks about the genre and gives sub-genres of SHMUPs like Rail Shooter, Run and Gun, Bullet Hell, Scrolling Shooters, and Fixed Shooters.

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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Define "Shoot'em Ups".

Nintendo_Ownes7

I don't know what the TC is talking about but I'm going with SHMUPs In that link it talks about the genre and gives sub-genres of SHMUPs like Rail Shooter, Run and Gun, Bullet Hell, Scrolling Shooters, and Fixed Shooters.

huh...Kinda like, Gradius, Star Fox, Metal Slug and Contra right?

Virtual Console.

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[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Define "Shoot'em Ups".

LegatoSkyheart

I don't know what the TC is talking about but I'm going with SHMUPs In that link it talks about the genre and gives sub-genres of SHMUPs like Rail Shooter, Run and Gun, Bullet Hell, Scrolling Shooters, and Fixed Shooters.

huh...Kinda like, Gradius, Star Fox, Metal Slug and Contra right?

Virtual Console.

no, kinda like Ikaruga.
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[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Define "Shoot'em Ups".

LegatoSkyheart

I don't know what the TC is talking about but I'm going with SHMUPs In that link it talks about the genre and gives sub-genres of SHMUPs like Rail Shooter, Run and Gun, Bullet Hell, Scrolling Shooters, and Fixed Shooters.

huh...Kinda like, Gradius, Star Fox, Metal Slug and Contra right?

Virtual Console.

Yeah. That is one reason I said Wii because it had Virtual Console and it was also getting new SHMUPS.

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#11 Yangire
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]I don't know what the TC is talking about but I'm going with SHMUPs In that link it talks about the genre and gives sub-genres of SHMUPs like Rail Shooter, Run and Gun, Bullet Hell, Scrolling Shooters, and Fixed Shooters.

funsohng

huh...Kinda like, Gradius, Star Fox, Metal Slug and Contra right?

Virtual Console.

no, kinda like Ikaruga.

And Gradius..

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Poll won't let me vote Wii. :evil:

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[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

huh...Kinda like, Gradius, Star Fox, Metal Slug and Contra right?

Virtual Console.

Yangire

no, kinda like Ikaruga.

And Gradius..

but not metal slug.
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#14 Yangire
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Poll won't let me vote Wii. :evil:

LegatoSkyheart

The VC shouldn't count honestly, and the Wii library is completely empty for new SHMUP games.

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Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Poll won't let me vote Wii. :evil:

Yangire

The VC shouldn't count honestly, and the Wii library is completely empty for new SHMUP games.

Why shouldn't the VC count?

It's avalible on the Wii, Most games on the Virtual Console aren't on the 360 and PS3, and it counts to the Overall Library of Games for the Wii.

Why shouldn't the VC count?

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[QUOTE="Yangire"]

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Poll won't let me vote Wii. :evil:

LegatoSkyheart

The VC shouldn't count honestly, and the Wii library is completely empty for new SHMUP games.

Why shouldn't the VC count?

It's avalible on the Wii, Most games on the Virtual Console aren't on the 360 and PS3, and it counts to the Overall Library of Games for the Wii.

Why shouldn't the VC count?

Because then the Wii would win, and we don't want that to happen now do we!! :roll:

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#18 gamer620
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Turbo Grafx 16 is the only right answer.

I guess Wii is an acceptable answer due to TG16 on VC

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#19 Yangire
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[QUOTE="Yangire"]

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Poll won't let me vote Wii. :evil:

LegatoSkyheart

The VC shouldn't count honestly, and the Wii library is completely empty for new SHMUP games.

Why shouldn't the VC count?

It's avalible on the Wii, Most games on the Virtual Console aren't on the 360 and PS3, and it counts to the Overall Library of Games for the Wii.

Why shouldn't the VC count?

To me if VC counts we should count emulators, the games aren't new, they aren't retail, and they aren't remade, it's just taking games directly from older platforms. The Wii might contain games like R-Type, Gradius, and Raiden (as does the PS2, but they are collections) but is completely lacking in freeware and new SHMUPs.

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To me if VC counts we should count emulators, the games aren't new, they aren't retail, and they aren't remade, it's just taking games directly from older platforms. The Wii might contain games like R-Type, Gradius, and Raiden (as does the PS2, but they are collections) but is completely lacking in freeware and new SHMUPs.

Yangire

Yangire, We can't count Emulators even if we tried. Roms and Emulators are sort of you know..."illegal"...The Virtual Consoles is LEGAL, So it counts.

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Obviously the Saturn... Most of the Shmup on XBL and PSN are ports of old games from the Saturn.

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[QUOTE="Yangire"]

To me if VC counts we should count emulators, the games aren't new, they aren't retail, and they aren't remade, it's just taking games directly from older platforms. The Wii might contain games like R-Type, Gradius, and Raiden (as does the PS2, but they are collections) but is completely lacking in freeware and new SHMUPs.

LegatoSkyheart

Yangire, We can't count Emulators even if we tried. Roms and Emulators are sort of you know..."illegal"...The Virtual Consoles is LEGAL, So it counts.

emulators are legal if you own the original game, and I'm just saying it's similar to one. Personally I think we should look at games made for the consoles rather than old games ported over for a online service.

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#23 T3H_1337_N1NJ4
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emulators are legal if you own the original game,.

Yangire

That's a myth. They're illegal. End of story.

Link if you don't believe me

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#24 Luxen90
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emulators are legal if you own the original game, and I'm just saying it's similar to one. Personally I think we should look at games made for the consoles rather than old games ported over for a online service.

Yangire



Not in the US,but I'm sure other countries either said it's legal or illegal.

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#26 LegatoSkyheart
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emulators are legal if you own the original game, and I'm just saying it's similar to one. Personally I think we should look at games made for the consoles rather than old games ported over for a online service.

Yangire

Dude, Emulators maybe Legal but Roms are not.

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[QUOTE="Yangire"]

emulators are legal if you own the original game, and I'm just saying it's similar to one. Personally I think we should look at games made for the consoles rather than old games ported over for a online service.

LegatoSkyheart

Dude, Emulators maybe Legal but Roms are not.

Actually, there is nothing illegal about Emulators at all. You can download an emulator whenever you want for whatever reason and not have to worry. Rom's on the other hand are only illegal if you do not own(or have purchased) a copy of the game. They are otherwise perfectly legal if you legally own the game you are emulating.
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Dude,Emulators maybe Legal but Roms are not.

gamer620

Actually, there is nothing illegal about Emulators at all. You can download an emulator whenever you want for whatever reason and not have to worry. Rom's on the other hand are only illegal if you do not own(or have purchased) a copy of the game. They are otherwise perfectly legal if you legally own the game you are emulating.

Yeah, I know.

as for everything else.

That's a myth. They're illegal. End of story.

Link if you don't believe me

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I'm surprised this thread isn't locked and I haven't been modded.

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Rom's on the other hand are only illegal if you do not own(or have purchased) a copy of the game. They are otherwise perfectly legal if you legally own the game you are emulating.gamer620
That's not completely true....
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isnt STU a dead genre? I mean you cant confuse a STU with an FPS...a STU is a game where you shoot literally everything that moves and where there are tons of corpses bullets and whatso around...for example doom 1 and 2 are STU but doom 3 is FPS
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Wii has the strongest line up, with around the same amount as the 360 at retail(In the US anyway) and more downloadable games.
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If you can play imports, the Saturn wins unless you're looking for old style shoo DoDonPachi, Battle Garregga, Radiant Silvergun, Gunbird, Strikers 1945, and a lot more make the Saturn the best console ever for shmups, even better than the TG-16. If you are looking for that old style, full sprite hitbox, then the Wii has what you're looking for with TG-16 emulation. If you want new releases, then you need the 360, especially with CAVE having announced the Muchi Muchi Pork/Pink Sweets bundle as region-free.
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Obviously the Saturn... Most of the Shmup on XBL and PSN are ports of old games from the Saturn.

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That's not true none of the shumps on PSN and XBL were on the Saturn outside of Raystorm HD, which was also on the PSone.

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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Poll won't let me vote Wii. :evil:

Yangire

The VC shouldn't count honestly, and the Wii library is completely empty for new SHMUP games.

Sin and Punishment: Star Successor Geometry Wars Galaxies Blastworks: Build, Trade, Destroy Ultimate Shooting Collection Metal Slug Anthology Castle of Shikigami III Gradius Rebirth Star Soldier R The Wii has a few.
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[QUOTE="Yangire"]

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Poll won't let me vote Wii. :evil:

savebattery

The VC shouldn't count honestly, and the Wii library is completely empty for new SHMUP games.

Sin and Punishment: Star Successor Geometry Wars Galaxies Blastworks: Build, Trade, Destroy Ultimate Shooting Collection Metal Slug Anthology Castle of Shikigami III Gradius Rebirth Star Soldier R The Wii has a few.

Vs. Mushihimesama Futari ESPGaluda II DeathSmiles Raiden IV Metal Slug XX Wartech: Senko no Ronde Geometry Wars 2 King of Fighters: Sky Stage Triggerheart Exellica And a variety of other good and not so good games I left out to keep this list from getting too long. The 360 also has a lot more coming out in the future than the Wii.
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If you're a shmup fan then the 360 is the best this gen by far.

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[QUOTE="savebattery"][QUOTE="Yangire"]

The VC shouldn't count honestly, and the Wii library is completely empty for new SHMUP games.

Temporius
Sin and Punishment: Star Successor Geometry Wars Galaxies Blastworks: Build, Trade, Destroy Ultimate Shooting Collection Metal Slug Anthology Castle of Shikigami III Gradius Rebirth Star Soldier R The Wii has a few.

Vs. Mushihimesama Futari ESPGaluda II DeathSmiles Raiden IV Metal Slug XX Wartech: Senko no Ronde Geometry Wars 2 King of Fighters: Sky Stage Triggerheart Exellica And a variety of other good and not so good games I left out to keep this list from getting too long. The 360 also has a lot more coming out in the future than the Wii.

I wasn't arguing that Wii was best. I was just correcting the guy who said the Wii had literally nothing for shooters.
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PS3 and/or 360
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[QUOTE="gamer620"] Rom's on the other hand are only illegal if you do not own(or have purchased) a copy of the game. They are otherwise perfectly legal if you legally own the game you are emulating.Luxen90
That's not completely true....

I got into a this debate before and ended up doing a whole lot of research. And if i recall, the conclusion i came to was outside of a very limited set of circumstances, roms are illegal... even if you own the game.

There was an exception for games you own and the original console cannot reasonably be found on the consumer market.... however it didnt specify retail. So I have to assume ebay counts... so as long as these old systems are easily purchased off ebay. I think its illegal even if you own the game.

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#40 Brownesque
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Oh please. Consoles aren't good for shootemups. Buy a PC get with the times.