Which devs makes better jrpgs compared to rest jrpg devs?

Always Have.Always will.

SQUARE ENIX

Well??

atlus

Atlus

Squaresoft

:P

Not many players in that field anymore?

Modern SE is just mediocre.... Atlus practically makes visual novels with some combat/exploration inbetween that doesn't hold a candle to even weaker JRPGs.

Can't remember the last JRPG I actually really enjoyed... maybe Bravely Default? either way... only "JRPG" type game I play at the moment is FFXIV (JMMO? :P) ... far better than the rest of the FF series now.

@MBirdy88: You haven't played Persona 5, have you?

Sega and it's Phantasy Star series. lol :P

Not yet, if the hype is anything like P4 Golden.. I imagine I will be equally dissapointed to find the game is mostly about kids learning brain-dead basic life lessons. But if it is a major step up, then I will try it when its £10.

I don't play many JRPGs, hated almost all of them, YS is cool though.

So dat.

They fixed the dungeons and combat, which were the central focus of your complaints lol

Sounds good :P ... will add it to the list, just buying our first home, can't even get the Mrs to bend on a Switch yet even! feelsbadman

Gotta go with Square-Enix myself.

Congratulations, man! That's awesome :D

Well, except for the no Switch part, that's gotta suck. But at least someone is exercising good financial sense ;P

Capcom solely because of Dragon's Dogma, unless we are only referring to anime friendly RPGs.

Square-Enix is a shadow of its former two companies. The Square half has gone completely to ****, while the Enix side endures only because Dragon Quest retains its three creative pillars. I fear the day any of them pass away.

My answer: Atlus. Consistently good games, and plenty of them to boot. Unlike Square-Here's a trailer for a game that won't release for another decade-Enix.

Atlus is something, more traditionnal style while Square-Enix try a lot to please the Bethesda crowd.

Between the two I'll take Atlus, they put out more games and crazier to me which I like a lot. In the past when it was still Squaresoft they were at the top but since their merging with Enix, they still put out good jrpg but I feel like they put so much water to water it down ... like FF XV was good to me but the story was almost not there if you didn't watch the movie or the mini serie ... also the magic was very very very simplified. And The almost open world is clearly there to interest Americans ...

Atlus just released Persona 5 and it is like a mix of P2/P3/P4G. They didn't try to appeal to people that don't give a **** about japanease game.

at the moment its monolithsoft for me. the xenoblade games have consumed significant chunks of my life. the story telling is not great (especially in xenoblade X) but everything else is great.

historically its probably square due to FF7, chrono trigger, the world ends with you and so on. but lately they havent really been great (though i hear FF15 is pretty good).

From Software. Demon's Souls, Dark Souls, and Bloodborne maybe more proper action/rpgs....but so was FF12, FF15, Kingdom Hearts, etc. So yeah From Software.

Bandai Namco Tales. Only jrpgs I play.

The answer is Atlus

Sweet, I got about 80 hours in to Persona 4 before I just couldn't take any more of the dungeons.

I'm going to go with Monolith Soft, but for Baten Kaitos more than the Xenos.

Atlus makes the more compelling the fun JRPGs for me not to say Square hasn't made a few good ones.

In the PS2 era I would have said Atlus. But between Devil Survivor 2 and anything they crapped out in gen 8. I cant really say I care for them anymore.

I suppose it is From Software now. Souls is still good.

Falcom

Wha-? No way, Champ. 12 was through and through a traditional JRPG, just with a freedom of movement during combat unseen in previous Final Fantasy games. Its combat system is what Square always wanted FF combat to be like, but was limited by technology before this.

Either way you slice it's an action rpg. What about that game makes it more in line with other jrpgs, and less the type of game Souls is. The major actions all have to happen in real time, your stat building is typical square comes up with some ridiculous leveling system for no other reason than "We're square enix, our games are stupid, hello", and in the same context why again should I think Souls games aren't jrpgs?

Because as far as I'm concerned Japanse game that happens to be a rpg, tends to be all one needs for a game to even be a jrpg. Limiting them to "well they have to be turn based and anime" is missing out in a quite a few noteworthy examples that wouldn't fit.

Nah, 12 is not an Action RPG.

Souls requires skill to play, for the player to be an active participant lest they get rekt. That it has level progression gives it the "RPG" aspect, but my being a higher level won't help me get better at the game.

12 requires no skill to play, and thanks to the Gambit system the player doesn't even need to be watching the game. As long as you know how to set up the right macro, the game plays itself.

FROM, obviously. The rest pale in comparison.

@mmmwksil: 12 felt like an MMO without the O

Atlus, From Software, and Monolith Soft.

Atlus or Falcom.

Yeah neither does Diablo, guess what Diablo is called.

The stuff Bethesda makes aren't exactly the most skillful games either, and your level n stats matter way more, they are still action rpgs. In fact the very thing wrong with FF12 is that it's an action/rpg. In that it makes you suffer its asstastic combat, only to be at the mercy of number crunching stats.

The difference between Souls and those games, happens to be that Souls combat could actually get away with being consistently enjoyable as an action game as well. It just happens to also be a stat driven/loot based rpg to boot.

Either way, point remains, From Software's brand of Japanese rpgs are my type of thing versus the other brands of jrpgs. Be it action, or turn based, or anime, medieval, or scifi.

Falcom

Squaresoft/Enix, Monolith Soft, Atlus, and Nintendo themselves (Paper Mario is one of my all-time favorite JRPGs).

@jg4xchamp:

Fair enough, maybe instead of just calling everything Action RPGs we need to come up with more genres with which to stick games into. Diablo is considered an Action RPG though? I always thought of it as a regular RPG myself.

I will continue to argue however that 12 isn't an Action RPG. Its combat taking place in the game world doesn't feel like its enough to warrant such a label, because combat could transition to a battle screen like previous FF games and nothing would change. You as the player still have no meaningful, skillful input.

In a way I kinda wish I could get into Souls games, but I just can't. I'm all about Bayonetta, and I'm down with Monster Hunter's punishing learning curve, but Souls just cannot win me over.

CW

from software makes great jrpgs.

Are we talking about current JRPGs? Then it's easily NIS, Namco Bandai, Game Freak, Falcom and Atlus (probably forgot a few). SE has become medicore at best. There are some good titles like Braverly Default, some medicore titles like FF15 and some horrible titles like vanilla FF14

Seconded.

Though Enix still puts out massive amounts of great stuff.

I'm not a huge fan of JRPGs, but i love From Software games.

Good taste... I clicked on this thread to say the same thing ha

From Software, they've made some of the absolute best games of the 7th and 8th gens.

I'm gonna be boring and say From Software. I haven't really loved any other JRPGs that much. I did enjoy Tales of Symphonia on GC, but that was mostly thanks to the gameplay. Stories in JRPGs, man..

Gotta mention Nintendo as well. PM:TTYD is a masterpiece. Then they decided to make the series a thousand times worse. *sadface

Surprised there's not more votes for Nihon Falcom. Yeah, Trails of Cold Steel 1 was problemed misfire, but most of their output is consistently decent. Compare that to Square Enix and Koei Tecmo, who are all over the map; and Bandai Namco who, whilst generally consistent, don't hit the high bar of the better Nihon Falcom stuff (not least because Tales plays it as safe as you can get).

I'm ignoring the Souls series here. I don't want to get into a debate about what is and isn't a JRPG and all that guff, just that, for my vote I didn't take those games into consideration as they do nothing to scratch a JRPG itch. Telling me to play Dark Souls after completing something like Trails in the Sky is simply not going to satisfy me in any of the same ways.

Nihon Falcom (Xseed)

Monolith Soft.

@uninspiredcup: I think the DarkSouls games are under Jrpg.

Fromsoftware without a doubt.

Altus and NIS are my favorite