Which game is more deserving of a 10 on GS?

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#1 Modern_Unit
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MGS4 or GTA IV?

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#2 sikanderahmed
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none of them deserve a 10, GTAIV should have been 5-6 and MGS4 is a 9.0 at most. but if i have no choice but to give a 10 to one of those games then it would be MGS4.

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#3 tirralirra
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GTA4. It has ten written all over it and it still could have had better missions.
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#4 The_Game21x
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GTA IV. I still stand by the 10s it received, no matter how many people say it's "overrated".

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#5 Lto_thaG
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MGS4...GTA4 is still a 9.5.

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#6 klusps
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MGS4, I found GTA4 a little reptitive.

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#7 Evz0rz
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MGS4...I LOVED that game, GTA4 was nothing more that a 8.5 in my eyes. Which is still great :D

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#8 racing1750
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GTA IV imo.
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#9 shaggygrosser
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GTAIV.
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GTAIV.. I played and beat both games.. MGS4 had entirely too many cutscenes to the point that it felt I was watching more of a movie then playing a game.. In a bad way, it felt like I was passively watching the game instead of actually playing it.. Furthermore gameplay wise the game was surprisingly short.. I would give it a 8.0 to 8.5.. Definitely a original and great game, to me its whole formula catters specifically to a small group that would apprecaite such things instead of seeing it as a complaint. Though I honeslty don't think GTA is worth a 10 either, but I think its much more deserving then MGS.
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#11 SF_KiLLaMaN
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No game should ever get a 10 because no game can ever be perfect.
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#12 ironman388
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how about neither? MGS4 was infinitely better than GTAIV, but neither deserved a ten, especially GTA

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#13 fenwickhotmail
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No game should ever get a 10 because no game can ever be perfect.SF_KiLLaMaN
10 doesnt have to be perfect. Having said that I wouldnt give either MGS or GTA a 10.

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#14 Eddie-Vedder
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none of them deserve a 10, GTAIV should have been 5-6 and MGS4 is a 9.0 at most. but if i have no choice but to give a 10 to one of those games then it would be MGS4.

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You clearly have no clue how reviews work. And lol at all the lems voting for GTA just so MGS4 doesn't win. MGS4 is by far the most deserving 10.
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#15 italygamer
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[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

none of them deserve a 10, GTAIV should have been 5-6 and MGS4 is a 9.0 at most. but if i have no choice but to give a 10 to one of those games then it would be MGS4.

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You clearly have no clue how reviews work. And lol at all the lems voting for GTA just so MGS4 doesn't win. MGS4 is by far the most deserving 10.

I'm not a lem and I think GTA IV is better. you should keep the fanboysm for yourself
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GTAIV.. I played and beat both games.. MGS4 had entirely too many cutscenes to the point that it felt I was watching more of a movie then playing a game.. In a bad way, it felt like I was passively watching the game instead of actually playing it.. Furthermore gameplay wise the game was surprisingly short.. I would give it a 8.0 to 8.5.. Definitely a original and great game, to me its whole formula catters specifically to a small group that would apprecaite such things instead of seeing it as a complaint. Though I honeslty don't think GTA is worth a 10 either, but I think its much more deserving then MGS.sSubZerOo
Why do people complain about cutscenes. Ok, so on the first play through you have to put up with them. But after that, they can be skipped, and MGS is good enough to replay at least 3 times.
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#17 brickdoctor
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Neither of them deserve tens. Their both solid nines if you ask me.

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]GTAIV.. I played and beat both games.. MGS4 had entirely too many cutscenes to the point that it felt I was watching more of a movie then playing a game.. In a bad way, it felt like I was passively watching the game instead of actually playing it.. Furthermore gameplay wise the game was surprisingly short.. I would give it a 8.0 to 8.5.. Definitely a original and great game, to me its whole formula catters specifically to a small group that would apprecaite such things instead of seeing it as a complaint. Though I honeslty don't think GTA is worth a 10 either, but I think its much more deserving then MGS.tirralirra
Why do people complain about cutscenes. Ok, so on the first play through you have to put up with them. But after that, they can be skipped, and MGS is good enough to replay at least 3 times.

Because its a legitimate problem.. And just because you can skip through it doesn't some how ignore the fact that its a pretty short game overall.. As i said its a great game, but I do not think its deserving of a 10 espcially when it catters to a very specific group of fans within the series.. Most high rated games are able to catter to its fans, while being open enough and appreciative enough to be played by fans of the overall genre..

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#19 jalexbrown
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[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"][QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

none of them deserve a 10, GTAIV should have been 5-6 and MGS4 is a 9.0 at most. but if i have no choice but to give a 10 to one of those games then it would be MGS4.

italygamer
You clearly have no clue how reviews work. And lol at all the lems voting for GTA just so MGS4 doesn't win. MGS4 is by far the most deserving 10.

I'm not a lem and I think GTA IV is better. you should keep the fanboysm for yourself

Didn't you know that if you pick a multiplat over an exclusive, you hate the system the exclusive was on?
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#20 carlisledavid79
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I didn't have a problem with both of those games scoring a ten then and I still don't now.
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#21 DoomZaW
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GTA IV didn't deserve a 10 in my book for sure, and MGS4 lies around 9.5 due to its short length, and lack of replayabillity, and the imbalance between the chapters. The first two are Grade A quality, but 3 and 4 suck, and 5 is a mixed experience.

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#22 Solid_Tango
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MGS4 IMHO
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#23 coltgames
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mgs4

i liked the multiplayer in gta4 it was differnet but singlplayer was boring the game felt like a bad sim

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[QUOTE="tirralirra"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]GTAIV.. I played and beat both games.. MGS4 had entirely too many cutscenes to the point that it felt I was watching more of a movie then playing a game.. In a bad way, it felt like I was passively watching the game instead of actually playing it.. Furthermore gameplay wise the game was surprisingly short.. I would give it a 8.0 to 8.5.. Definitely a original and great game, to me its whole formula catters specifically to a small group that would apprecaite such things instead of seeing it as a complaint. Though I honeslty don't think GTA is worth a 10 either, but I think its much more deserving then MGS.sSubZerOo

Why do people complain about cutscenes. Ok, so on the first play through you have to put up with them. But after that, they can be skipped, and MGS is good enough to replay at least 3 times.

Because its a legitimate problem.. And just because you can skip through it doesn't some how ignore the fact that its a pretty short game overall.. As i said its a great game, but I do not think its deserving of a 10 espcially when it catters to a very specific group of fans within the series.. Most high rated games are able to catter to its fans, while being open enough and appreciative enough to be played by fans of the overall genre..

Yeah it short and no it doesn't only cater to MGS fans. Never played any other MGS so didnt understand the story (making cutscenes even worse for me) and I still liked it. Game play is just awesome.
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#25 MetroidPrimePwn
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Neither. I think they're both solid 8.5s, but not 10s.

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#26 Postal_Guy
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GTA IV 8.5 and MGS4 9.0 in my book

but if I had to choose it would be MGS4

IMO no game released to date deserves a 10. for a game to score a 10 it has to appeal to every gamer out there and be absolutely perfect in graphics, gameplay, story,....

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#27 italygamer
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[QUOTE="italygamer"][QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"] You clearly have no clue how reviews work. And lol at all the lems voting for GTA just so MGS4 doesn't win. MGS4 is by far the most deserving 10.jalexbrown
I'm not a lem and I think GTA IV is better. you should keep the fanboysm for yourself

Didn't you know that if you pick a multiplat over an exclusive, you hate the system the exclusive was on?

oh..right, dammit! my bad!

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#28 SilverChimera
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I think MGS4 deserves it more. I just enjoyed it a lot more.
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#29 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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Neither deserved it.

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#30 surrealnumber5
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none of them deserve a 10, GTAIV should have been 5-6 and MGS4 is a 9.0 at most. but if i have no choice but to give a 10 to one of those games then it would be MGS4.

sikanderahmed
good answer i am going to agree with it
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#31 Swift_Boss_A
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I enjoyed MGS4 to the point that it's my most played game this gen, definitely a 10 in my book.

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IMO no game released to date deserves a 10. for a game to score a 10 it has to appeal to every gamer out there and be absolutely perfect in graphics, gameplay, story,....

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lol Where did you learn this illogical logic?
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#33 methinksyou
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MGS4 even though i do not think any game deserves a 10. GTA 4 was a BIG disappointment( the worst 3d gta imo). Deserves a 6 at best.
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#34 Easyle
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Nothing is perfect.. except me.
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#35 anshul89
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GTA IV.

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#36 Diametraphine
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Neither of them. They should both have gotten a 9.5 Gta because the immersion of the game is often broken up by having to attend to friends and such which can be very boring later in the game when you have lots of friends. While MGS4 although the story telling was amazing, the cutscenes were just TOO many it really doesn't matter how amazing they were, there still were just too many for too long, there would have been easy ways to integrate those into gameplay, such as making the phone inside the gameplay or just having some of the conversations during battles and such.

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#37 fueled-system
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neither deserved a 10 and just increased the hate on review scores with this helping escalate the attitude of if it aint above 9 it is considered a flop

they both were superb games but both had clear flaws

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#38 mr-krinkles
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Out of those two, probably GTA4. But really, neither game deserved a ten.

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#39 Arach666
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Neither.
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#40 CannedWorms
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If people would give GTAIV a chance, they would realise it is a good game. I am sick of the people that **** over it just because there were no parachutes and they took out the arcadey driving. If you actually gave the game a chance you would start to enjoy the driving and laugh at other sandbox games.

GTAIV is the one game that blows my mind every time I play it. The amount of effort that went into the game was outstanding, every street is different. every person is different. It is pleasing to the eye and the game still holds up to this day, in all aspects.

There is so much content, so much possibilties that it will never get boring, at least in my eyes.

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#41 205212669269561485377169522720
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In my book, GTAIV.

MGS4 is a 9.5 but who cares anyways. It's exceeded my hype so I'm happy eitherway.:)

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#42 Joshywaa
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No game should ever get a 10 because no game can ever be perfect.SF_KiLLaMaN

10 on gamespot is not a "perfect" score per se...

What the Numbers Mean:
Here's how the overall rating ranges break down.

10.0: PrimeThis exceedingly rare score refers to a game that is as perfect as a game can aspire to be at its time of release. Obviously, the constantly changing standards for technology and gameplay will probably make this game obsolete some day, but at its time of release, a game earning this score could not have been improved upon in any meaningful way.

Have any of you ever read GS's ranking system?

I doubt it, judging on what i've seen a lot of you post :|

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#43 chocolate1325
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Neither but Metal Gear Solid 4 is a better game.

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#44 Diametraphine
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[QUOTE="CannedWorms"]

If people would give GTAIV a chance, they would realise it is a good game. I am sick of the people that **** over it just because there were no parachutes and they took out the arcadey driving. If you actually gave the game a chance you would start to enjoy the driving and laugh at other sandbox games.

GTAIV is the one game that blows my mind every time I play it. The amount of effort that went into the game was outstanding, every street is different. every person is different. It is pleasing to the eye and the game still holds up to this day, in all aspects.

There is so much content, so much possibilties that it will never get boring, at least in my eyes.

Spoken like someone who knows what they are talking about. It seems that GTA4 is constantly bashed by gamers for the fact that it is really really popular, now I know it sounds like a bit of a cop out excuse but it's true. Gta4 is an amazing game which I am actually still playing today, and the fact that the DLC is so heavily made up that they are also nearly full games that makes Rockstar deserving of the review scores for their effort towards the DLC which we have never really seen as fleshed out as there is on offer in Gta4.... Well, maybe not a ten because of reasons I stated above but still....
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#45 the-obiwan
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none of those two. so i cant vote =/
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Neither
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halo3 ,cod4 and batman aa in imo

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#48 RyuRanVII
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I haven't played Metal Gear Solid 4 yet, but GTA IV certainly doesn't deserve 10. It's 7.0 for me.
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#49 Magik85
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None...GTA for me is- 9 and MGS4-8
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#50 NAPK1NS
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GTAIV is a technical marvel but I found the game to be pretty formulaic in nature. MGS4... well that's just one of the best games ever made.