Which gaming company represents more Social Justice Warriors?

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Poll Which gaming company represents more Social Justice Warriors? (38 votes)

Sony 32%
Microsoft 5%
Nintendo 5%
EA 29%
Ubisoft 5%
Valve 0%
Activision 0%
Tencent 0%
Bandia 0%
Square Enix 3%
TakeTwo Interactive 0%
Other 21%

Without a doubt Sony. Last of Us pro lgbtt, Crash bandicoot pro animal rights, God of War pro choice, Little Big Planet pro enviournmenal issues. And now with Far Cry 5 exclusive content, pro anti-racism.

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#1 N64DD
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in b4 lock

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@n64dd said:

in b4 lock

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@n64dd said:

in b4 lock

It's a harmless topic, so I don't believe the mods will lock it. Plus they are my friends.

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@MonsieurX said:
@n64dd said:

in b4 lock

Yes!!! I made it to post this!

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#5  Edited By Johnny-n-Roger
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Stupid question. It's certain game journos and certain developers that are "SJW". Major corporations typically can't afford to be run in an ideological fashion. They might advertise to appeal to specific demographics, but profit has to be their bottom line.

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#7  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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@needhealing said:

It's a harmless topic, so I don't believe the mods will lock it. Plus they are my friends.

That's not the point. Gamespot doesn't want anything to do with SJW stuff. Hell, even 2 years ago, GS didn't want to put up with anything from GamersGate despite GS was okay with GG thread from 2 years ago.

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@davillain- said:
@needhealing said:

It's a harmless topic, so I don't believe the mods will lock it. Plus they are my friends.

That's not the point. Gamespot doesn't want anything to do with SJW stuff. Hell, even 2 years ago, GS didn't want to put up with anything from GamersGate despite GS was okay with GG thread from 2 years ago.

I've always seen GamerGate as a movement to expose dishonesty and cronyism in game's journalism rather than the "anti-SJW" movement that it's known as today. I think alot of the "Anti-SJW" bullshit was a response to GG being slandered by game's journalism as sexist bigots to deflect valid criticisms.

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What a garbage thread and even saying something so utterly stupid like “pro anti-racism”.

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#10  Edited By Johnny-n-Roger
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What a garbage thread and even saying something so utterly stupid like “pro anti-racism”.

I know right? Very few people are actual "pro racism" or openly racist. "Racist" in most cases is just a label that are given to people who don't conform to a politically correct ideology by the people that do.

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#11  Edited By Ten_Pints
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Wasn't it EA that invited that feminist moron to give them advice on mirrors edge?

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@ten_pints said:

Wasn't it EA that invited that feminist moron to give them advice on mirrors edge?

Bioware? Yeah and they said afterwards they regretted the visit but I don't know what actually happened during the visit.

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Am twiggered.

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Id say EA or Ubisoft.

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#15  Edited By Johnny-n-Roger
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@KungfuKitten said:
@ten_pints said:

Wasn't it EA that invited that feminist moron to give them advice on mirrors edge?

Bioware? Yeah and they said afterwards they regretted the visit but I don't know what actually happened during the visit.

Because while they might appeal to some of the suits and convince them that they actually care about video games and improving the medium, when they're not on script it's obvious to all but the most casual individual that they're journalism majors, not gamers, and are clueless as to what video games are about. They're nothing but ideological con-artists that use video game culture and its primarily male base to push their idiotic narrative for attention and victim bux.

But of course 50% of gamers are women if you're a moron that insists that free-to-play/point-and-click phone and tablet games are part of the same culture as traditional gamers. Publishers aren't that stupid. They have a pretty good idea which demographics are buying their games. That's why this thread that implies that there's a publisher that is the most "SJW" is asinine.

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I've seen my fair share of dumb threads but this one... congrats

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Huh?

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EA.

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At the risk of getting sucked into a vortex of bullshit, I'd just say that the original question is not correctly phrased. The question isn't about which company caters to so-called "SJWs"; I think the question is which company actively seeks to increase representation of various types of people within their games.

And honestly, I'm not really sure which of those I'd put in that category. I think most of the industry is trying to create more diverse characters in general. Off the top of my head, Sony comes to mind as a fairly big proponent of this - especially if you think about their support of games starring female protagonists.

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lol :P

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#21  Edited By TryIt
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Social Justice Warrior

A warrior for social justice.

who is actually against social justice and why

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I havn't noticed any SJW stuff in the games I play I've heard some idies are quite bad though. There are more female protagonist in games now more than ever but gamers never cared about genders looking at tomb raider, only if it was a good game or not. I remember play larry luxsuite(?) and hooking up with a transgendered female but that was like 10 years ago if not more now. That was the closest thing I could think off.

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#23  Edited By KungfuKitten
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With sports and sims I would say EA.

@djura said:

At the risk of getting sucked into a vortex of bullshit, I'd just say that the original question is not correctly phrased. The question isn't about which company caters to so-called "SJWs"; I think the question is which company actively seeks to increase representation of various types of people within their games.

And honestly, I'm not really sure which of those I'd put in that category. I think most of the industry is trying to create more diverse characters in general. Off the top of my head, Sony comes to mind as a fairly big proponent of this - especially if you think about their support of games starring female protagonists.

Well... very few games contain characters that are meant to represent people in the real world. EA games do sometimes, like their sports titles. They have to pay for the right to put famous people's faces in the game. And there have been some games based on history like BF1 where they use names of real soldiers that died. Or Saboteur that takes place during ww2 in a halfway realistic world in a halfway realistic France. So I suppose they could halfway realistically represent French people but within the boundaries of what is doable in such a game and keeping it entertaining because that's the whole point of the game.

I would look mostly at edutainment or simulators set in a time and place with diversity for representation of real people. If we're talking math-games for kids it would be cool to have children of several backgrounds learning maths within the game. And I do consider it an important component of a simulator that focuses on citizens in modern day Brussels. But I don't fully understand the people asking for representation in all games. In a game like The Witcher (1 mostly) Geralt isn't supposed to be the player he is an established character in the lore and in a fantasy world with his own opinions and personality. Of course there are also games in which the main character supposedly represents the player. (In Witcher 3 more so but still not quite.) Or that give you the choice (Skyrim). If character customization wouldn't cost a ton of skill, money and time to make then I would want to see every game that has a character representing the player to a significant degree to have the option for at least skin tones and maybe voice tones. But that's a hefty thing to ask for. Besides the resources it takes it makes it harder to market the game since you don't have a recognizable protagonist in the game, and the protagonist could never become iconic (Lara Croft would not exist and would not be beloved). (Somehow Mass Effect kind of made it work so I would like to read into that but that was also white manshep/femshep.) I would love for that to become more common though for the people who like that sort of thing, and I think it is becoming more common like you are saying.

But of course representation is not just the looks but also the skills and decisions the character makes, the behaviors, the movements, the way of thinking, the cultural background and the economical background and so many things that will never be perfectly in line with the person playing (and the player probably doesn't want all of this to be in his/her game in the first place) so we would have to seriously establish a line of what is deemed acceptable for people who are very sensitive to this type of thing (if the game wants to sell to that group of people), and we have to come to terms with that coming at a price.

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@npiet1 said:

I havn't noticed any SJW stuff in the games I play I've heard some idies are quite bad though. There are more female protagonist in games now more than ever but gamers never cared about genders looking at tomb raider, only if it was a good game or not. I remember play larry luxsuite(?) and hooking up with a transgendered female but that was like 10 years ago if not more now. That was the closest thing I could think off.

lol.

parase that down

'indies are bad because they have female protagonists'

is basically what you just said

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Jesus, this is a dumb thread.

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Bio-Ware comes to my mind. I couldn't even stomach a full play through of Mass Effect: A or Dragon Age: Inq. Where's the social justice when homosexuality is thrown in someones face when they are disgusted or disturb by it? Those games are all about getting into kids minds, its just a political agenda to conform a young persons mind to believe its natural.

There are faiths in the world that condem homosexuality as sin, so for some people it's like glorifing blasphemy, rape and murder. Like every other vile thing in the world, I dont want it thrown in my face in my down time in any form, so i wont be paying for it.

Needless to say I don't buy bio-ware products any more. In fact, any game that goes out of its way to make SJW happy I just wont buy. SJW wants to rewrite history every chance it gets. If they had their way the next Navy Seal game like So-Com would all be a all female lesbian squad ran by the new North Korean dictatorship to root out all the catholic terrorist in the world. They even target games like Kingdom Deliverance for being absolutely historically accurate. They can't even help themselves from complaing about all male shadows in the Red Dead Remption 2 teaser poster.

It's really a simple solution for me though. I just vote with my wallet. I'm going to stay hyper vigilant to avoid all forms of media that try to shove the SJW agenda down my throat.

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This thread reminded me that I’ve not taken a shit yet today.

Cheers TC!

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#29  Edited By KungfuKitten
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@Trinitarian: I suppose that for people of your religion it would have been good of them to include an option to opt out of that sort of thing in case you don't feel comfortable with it. Those are doable things, kind of, that we could suggest to developers. But I wouldn't expect too much of it because all of that does cost money.

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Bioware.. Mass Effect Andromeda was full of virtue signaling

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Polls need to start requiring moderator approval. This is the dumbest one you've made yet.

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@KungfuKitten: I was thinking the same thing. From my view life is full choices and if i could simply opt of being exposed to that type of content, I would be satisfied.

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#33  Edited By deactivated-5c18005f903a1
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@techhog89: Mods know SW is done so don’t lock anything no matter how shit it is just to have at least some traffic.

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@Flubbbs said:

Bioware.. Mass Effect Andromeda was full of virtue signaling

Yea, funnily enough Saints Row parodying how shit it was, was inadvertently a better representation.

In SR3 Pierce Washington casually (and playfully) bringing up his sexuality was far better than Biowares knee-cap the player approach.

Pretty awesome for a game series so deliberately juvenile.

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Why? You mad because minority have representation?

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#36  Edited By Johnny-n-Roger
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@calvincfb said:

Why? You mad because minority have representation?

"representation" what a shallow achievement to strive for.

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@Trinitarian said:

Bio-Ware comes to my mind. I couldn't even stomach a full play through of Mass Effect: A or Dragon Age: Inq. Where's the social justice when homosexuality is thrown in someones face when they are disgusted or disturb by it? Those games are all about getting into kids minds, its just a political agenda to conform a young persons mind to believe its natural.

There are faiths in the world that condem homosexuality as sin, so for some people it's like glorifing blasphemy, rape and murder. Like every other vile thing in the world, I dont want it thrown in my face in my down time in any form, so i wont be paying for it.

Needless to say I don't buy bio-ware products any more. In fact, any game that goes out of its way to make SJW happy I just wont buy. SJW wants to rewrite history every chance it gets. If they had their way the next Navy Seal game like So-Com would all be a all female lesbian squad ran by the new North Korean dictatorship to root out all the catholic terrorist in the world. They even target games like Kingdom Deliverance for being absolutely historically accurate. They can't even help themselves from complaing about all male shadows in the Red Dead Remption 2 teaser poster.

It's really a simple solution for me though. I just vote with my wallet. I'm going to stay hyper vigilant to avoid all forms of media that try to shove the SJW agenda down my throat.

"It's not natural". And your big pretend friend in the sky made that happen, too.

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It's bad to be for equality. Yeah, that makes sense

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@Shewgenja: I love when people are disturbed by homosexuality. They are so scared and don't want to admit it. Blocking it out isn't the answer, just face your fears. That guy needs to go touch a penis and see how it makes him feel and be honest with himself LOL ?

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@cainetao11 said:

@Shewgenja: I love when people are disturbed by homosexuality. They are so scared and don't want to admit it. Blocking it out isn't the answer, just face your fears. That guy needs to go touch a penis and see how it makes him feel and be honest with himself LOL ?

I love being an ally. Some of the hottest women I've ever dated were blind dates setup by my gay friends. Frankly, this world is messed up enough as it is. I can't fault anyone for finding love in any way it comes to them in this life. A little bit of empathy goes a long way.

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Make a game with a protagonist that is not a straight white generic male and folks loose their minds.

  • "Genocide to white men."
  • "Social Justice Warriors are ruining everything"
  • "I don't care about sex or color once its white and male."
  • "Damn snowflakes complain about everything. I am so tired of them complaining and ruing gaming."
  • "Why do we need other races or genders in gaming? It was good when everything was a white male"
  • "They keep pushing the gayness down our throats with these optional side characters."
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@Pedro said:

Make a game with a protagonist that is not a straight white generic male and folks loose their minds.

  • "Genocide to white men."
  • "Social Justice Warriors are ruining everything"
  • "I don't care about sex or color once its white and male."
  • "Damn snowflakes complain about everything. I am so tired of them complaining and ruing gaming."
  • "Why do we need other races or genders in gaming? It was good when everything was a white male"
  • "They keep pushing the gayness down our throats with these optional side characters."

pretty much exactly.

first time I heard what gamergate was really about I could not believe it...very bizzare

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@Shewgenja: You'll be meeting him some day whether you like it or not, unless you've figured out the secret to have power over life and death. Anyway, it's not even hard to make the argument since it's clearly not natural. Next we'll be hearing how great beastality is and how it's natural. In the Hebrew Bible both acts demanded the death penalty. Those acts are about as natural as eating from your ass and sh!ting out your mouth, which sounds just about right in your case.

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@Trinitarian said:

@Shewgenja: You'll be meeting him some day whether you like it or not, unless you've figured out the secret to have power over life and death. Anyway, it's not even hard to make the argument since it's clearly not natural. Next we'll be hearing how great beastality is and how it's natural. In the Hebrew Bible both acts demanded the death penalty. Those acts are about as natural as eating from your ass and sh!ting out your mouth, which sounds just about right in your case.

What's funny is that if you were an Arab Muslim with these exact same bigoted beliefs the same shitlibs would be enamored by your alternative and extremely valuable point of view. Bigotry isn't wrong when it's not a white person doing it.

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pretty much exactly.

first time I heard what gamergate was really about I could not believe it...very bizzare

Because you obviously love cronyism and politics injected into your games journalism. A lot of people don't. Otherwise you have an extremely biased understanding of what gamergate is.

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@tryit: How did you get that from "gamers never cared about genders looking at tomb raider" or "I never noticed it". With indies I've only herd about some SJW shit not that their bad because of the genders.

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#46  Edited By KungfuKitten
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@tryit said:
@Pedro said:

Make a game with a protagonist that is not a straight white generic male and folks loose their minds.

  • "Genocide to white men."
  • "Social Justice Warriors are ruining everything"
  • "I don't care about sex or color once its white and male."
  • "Damn snowflakes complain about everything. I am so tired of them complaining and ruing gaming."
  • "Why do we need other races or genders in gaming? It was good when everything was a white male"
  • "They keep pushing the gayness down our throats with these optional side characters."

pretty much exactly.

first time I heard what gamergate was really about I could not believe it...very bizzare

Look I know you guys love trolling but this is taking things a little too far. One of the most diverse market audiences in age and race positioned around the globe is unlikely to be homophobe or racist. I don't remember there being a fuss about women or colored people in gaming until there was this push based on the notion that gaming had sinned by being made by men for men, that it should change its ways of adhering to the malevolent force the 'patriarchy'. It's no wonder that people who love gaming were feeling upset. We were being accused for liking our games. I think it would be hard to find a gamer against diversity as long as it isn't for the sake of diversity.

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@cainetao11 said:

@Shewgenja: I love when people are disturbed by homosexuality. They are so scared and don't want to admit it. Blocking it out isn't the answer, just face your fears. That guy needs to go touch a penis and see how it makes him feel and be honest with himself LOL ?

It is bizzare. Conservatism plays a huge part in that.

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@Pedro said:

Make a game with a protagonist that is not a straight white generic male and folks loose their minds.

  • "Genocide to white men."
  • "Social Justice Warriors are ruining everything"
  • "I don't care about sex or color once its white and male."
  • "Damn snowflakes complain about everything. I am so tired of them complaining and ruing gaming."
  • "Why do we need other races or genders in gaming? It was good when everything was a white male"
  • "They keep pushing the gayness down our throats with these optional side characters."

This is your intellectually dishonest interpretation of any criticism towards your shitty progressive ideology being injected into entertainment. And the bold is literally something that no one has ever said unironically. I can see you've been beer-bonging the ideological Kool-Aid.

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#49  Edited By freedom01  Moderator
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@needhealing said:
@n64dd said:

in b4 lock

It's a harmless topic, so I don't believe the mods will lock it. Plus they are my friends.

harmless, sure. BUT this is not SW material.

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