Which of these future games would you rather have (top list or bottom list)?

LIST X:
Bioshock 2
Quake 5
Motorstorm 2
Virtua Fighter 6
Final Fantasy XIII & XIV
Gran Turismo 6
Gears of War 2
Crysis 2
Unreal Tournament 4
DIRT 2
Civilization 5
Street Fighter 4
Resident Evil 6
Half Life 3
Starcraft 2
CoD 5
Halo ...
MGS 5
Elder Scrolls 5
GTA 5
Diablo 3
Burnout 5
God of War 3
Disgaea 3
Project Origin
Splinter Cell Conviction
KOTOR 3
Suikoden 6
Devil May Cry 5
Forza 3
PGR 5
Assassin's Creed
Chronicles of Riddick 2
Doom 4
Age of Empires 4
Uncharted Drakes Fortune
Warcraft IV
Persona 4
FFT2
Red Faction 3
FF XIII Versus
Eternal Sonata
MG Online
Dead Rising 2
Lost Odyssey
GRAW 3
Command & Conquer 4
Original Downloadable games & upgraded ports

Versus

LIST Y:
Mario Party 9
Mario Kart Wii
Metroid Prime 4
Kirby Pinball
Mario vs Donkey Kong 3
F-Zero 4
Mario & Sonic at the Olympics
Zelda 8
Mario Strikers 3
Mario Golf 3
Mario Baseball 2
Brain Age 3
Nintendogs 2
New Super Mario Bros 2
Yoshi's Island 4
Pokemon 15
Animal Crossing 4
Paper Mario 4
Wii Fit
Super Mario 64x3
Mario & Luigi 4
SSB 4
FFIV DS
FFTA3
Warioware 4
No More Heroes
Excitetruck 2
Super Monkey Ball 4
Mario Tennis 3
Fire Emblem RD
Wii Play 2
FFCCRoF
Deca Sports
Some original downloadable games, but mostly ports of very old games that occasionally have features missing.

Oh look the combined line up of 3 gaming systems is better than the lineup of one gaming system on it's own.

Who would have thought?

Oh look the combined line up of 3 gaming systems is better than the lineup of one gaming system on it's own.

Who would have thought?

thriteenthmonke

It's just the lineup of games that either cost money to produce or are hardcore, versus, casual games or games that are cheap to produce. The top list is made up of multiplatform games and exclusiveswhile the bottom list is not just 1 gaming system, its 2. Kind of like saying would you rather see the Wii win or the PS3 &/or 360?

[QUOTE="thriteenthmonke"]

Oh look the combined line up of 3 gaming systems is better than the lineup of one gaming system on it's own.

Who would have thought?

joeamis

It's just the lineup of games that either cost money to produce or are hardcore, versus, casual games or games that are cheap to produce. The top list is made up of multiplatform games and the bottom list is not just1 gaming system, its 2.

Oh, I didn't notice you threw DS in there.

[QUOTE="thriteenthmonke"]

Oh look the combined line up of 3 gaming systems is better than the lineup of one gaming system on it's own.

Who would have thought?

joeamis

It's just the lineup of games that either cost money to produce or are hardcore, versus, casual games or games that are cheap to produce. The top list is made up of multiplatform games and the bottom list is not just1 gaming system, its 2.

I'd choose list X..

Because List Y is laughable in comparison.

You must work for Fox News, because that list was fair and balanced :roll:.PBSnipes

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]You must work for Fox News, because that list was fair and balanced :roll:.bc1391

You only find it unfair because Nintendo consoles primarily make Nintendo money and the good games are primarily only from Nintendo. Whereas on PS3 & 360 its completely different. The list is not 3 vs 1, its 1market vs 1 market.

[QUOTE="bc1391"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"]You must work for Fox News, because that list was fair and balanced :roll:.joeamis

You only find it unfair because Nintendo consoles primarily make Nintendo money and the good games are primarily only from Nintendo. Whereas on PS3 & 360 its completely different. The list is not 3 vs 1, its 1market vs 1 market.

Cost to play games in list "X", $2000+ (360+PS3+PC+upgrades+possible PS4+possible Xbox 3)

Cost to play games in list "Y" ~$800 (Wii+DS+DS2/new gameboy+Wii 2).

Nintendo vs the world lol

[QUOTE="joeamis"]

[QUOTE="bc1391"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"]You must work for Fox News, because that list was fair and balanced :roll:.PBSnipes

You only find it unfair because Nintendo consoles primarily make Nintendo money and the good games are primarily only from Nintendo. Whereas on PS3 & 360 its completely different. The list is not 3 vs 1, its 1market vs 1 market.

Cost to play games in list "X", $2000+ (360+PS3+PC+upgrades+possible PS4+possible Xbox 3)

Cost to play games in list "Y" ~$1000 (Wii+DS+DS2/new gameboy+Wii 2).

Don't forget Wii controllers are more expensive, require more batteries per usage,Wii requires memory cards, Wii requires Wifi adapter, Wii downloadable games cost more for what you're actually getting, Nintendo did away with Players Choice priced games.

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="joeamis"]

[QUOTE="bc1391"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"]You must work for Fox News, because that list was fair and balanced :roll:.joeamis

You only find it unfair because Nintendo consoles primarily make Nintendo money and the good games are primarily only from Nintendo. Whereas on PS3 & 360 its completely different. The list is not 3 vs 1, its 1market vs 1 market.

Cost to play games in list "X", $2000+ (360+PS3+PC+upgrades+possible PS4+possible Xbox 3)

Cost to play games in list "Y" ~$1000 (Wii+DS+DS2/new gameboy+Wii 2).

Don't forget Wii controllers are more expensive, require more batteries per usage,Wii requires memory cards, Wii requires Wifi adapter, Wii downloadable games cost more for what you're actually getting, Nintendo did away with Players Choice priced games.

List X: 360 ($350)+4 controllers (4x50=$200)+Wi-Fi adaptor ($100)+5 years XBL gold (5x50=$250+PS3 ($550)+7 Sixaxis controllers (7x50=$350)+7 Dualshock 3 controllers (7x50=$350)+headset ($50)+High endAlienware PC ($4000)+2 CPU upgrades ($600)+2 GPU upgrades ($600)+2 RAM upgrades ($300)=$7700.

List Y: Wii ($250)+4 Wii Remotes (4x50=200)+4 nunchuks (4x20=$80)+4 classic controllers (4x30=$120)+Wi Fi adapter ($30)+DS ($150)=$830

Don't forget Wii controllers are more expensive, require more batteries per usage,Wii requires memory cards, Wii requires Wifi adapter, Wii downloadable games cost more for what you're actually getting, Nintendo did away with Players Choice priced games.

joeamis

How much will the Dual Shock 3 be? Rechargeable batteries..FTW (whats the battery life on the DS3 gonna be?). Wii does not need memory cards. Wii has built-in WiFi. The price of VC game is totally subjective. The Wii hasnt been out a year and you want a Player's Choice line. The PS3 hasnt one either, nor 360.

EPIC FAIL.

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

Allright you asked for it:

List X: 360 ($350)+4 controllers (4x50=$200)+Wi-Fi adaptor ($100)+5 years XBL gold (5x50=$250+PS3 ($550)+7 Sixaxis controllers (7x50=$350)+7 Dualshock 3 controllers (7x50=$350)+headset ($50)+High endAlienware PC ($4000)+2 CPU upgrades ($600)+2 GPU upgrades ($600)+2 RAM upgrades ($300)=$7700.

List Y: Wii ($250)+4 Wii Remotes (4x50=200)+4 nunchuks (4x20=$80)+4 classic controllers (4x30=$120)+Wi Fi adapter ($30)+DS ($150)=$830

Slashkice

...why are you counting fourteen PS3 controllers? I know you're trying to make that list seem as expensive as possible, but come on now, fourteen?

Anyways, price isn't arguable; the Wii and DS are the cheapest systems out right now.

And for the love, the Wii has WiFi built in :evil:

I can't believe I am about to say this, but I would rather have list Y.

Ok, hear me out on this. Look over List X and Y again. Notice how the majority of games on those lists are games that haven't even been announced yet. Therefore, since one can't confirm they are in development that gets rid of the majority of both sides. After looking at it that way I could see 2 games on the X list I actually wanted and 3 games on the Y list I wanted. Also, I think this is the most ridiculous comparison in history. I don't know what kind of point you were trying to make but its pretty pathetic that not only did you have to combine 4 different systems to try and make nintendo look bad but the majority of both sides aren't even being made. . .

Now that I think about it, List X appeals to me slightly more than List Y (by 1 game - ignoring casual crap that I'd probably buy anyway, like Elder Scrolls V). So I guess List X gets my vote.

*Edit* Oh, and if we're counting games that will actually exist...it's roughly even.

[QUOTE="joeamis"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="joeamis"]

[QUOTE="bc1391"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"]You must work for Fox News, because that list was fair and balanced :roll:.PBSnipes

You only find it unfair because Nintendo consoles primarily make Nintendo money and the good games are primarily only from Nintendo. Whereas on PS3 & 360 its completely different. The list is not 3 vs 1, its 1market vs 1 market.

Cost to play games in list "X", $2000+ (360+PS3+PC+upgrades+possible PS4+possible Xbox 3)

Cost to play games in list "Y" ~$1000 (Wii+DS+DS2/new gameboy+Wii 2).

Don't forget Wii controllers are more expensive, require more batteries per usage,Wii requires memory cards, Wii requires Wifi adapter, Wii downloadable games cost more for what you're actually getting, Nintendo did away with Players Choice priced games.

List X: 360 ($350)+4 controllers (4x50=$200)+Wi-Fi adaptor ($100)+5 years XBL gold (5x50=$250+PS3 ($550)+7 Sixaxis controllers (7x50=$350)+7 Dualshock 3 controllers (7x50=$350)+headset ($50)+High endAlienware PC ($4000)+2 CPU upgrades ($600)+2 GPU upgrades ($600)+2 RAM upgrades ($300)=$7700.

List Y: Wii ($250)+4 Wii Remotes (4x50=200)+4 nunchuks (4x20=$80)+4 classic controllers (4x30=$120)+Wi Fi adapter ($30)+DS ($150)=$830

You don't need a Wifi adapter for 360. Most people don't have wireless internet, so most people are paying for a Wifi adapter for Wii and not for 360. 360 controllers are often being sold for $40 and XBL 13 month cards are often sold for $40 or less. PS3 is available for $499 and soon for even lower. Why would anyone need 7 PS3 controllers AND also 7 Dualshock 3 controllers, that's ridiculous. Blue tooth headsets only cost $50 if you're going for the best you can get. You don't need to spend $4000 on an Alienware PC to play current PC games. You could spend as little as $400 to play them. You would also not have to buy 2 CPU upgrades and 2 GPU upgrades, and that is even more ridiculous given that you said people need a $4000 PC to begin with. Same goes for the 2 RAM upgrades. Your post is beyond ridiculous. And if a person waits the price of the 360 & PS3 will come much closer to the price of a Wii.

[QUOTE="joeamis"]

Don't forget Wii controllers are more expensive, require more batteries per usage,Wii requires memory cards, Wii requires Wifi adapter, Wii downloadable games cost more for what you're actually getting, Nintendo did away with Players Choice priced games.

gromit007

How much will the Dual Shock 3 be? Rechargeable batteries..FTW (whats the battery life on the DS3 gonna be?). Wii does not need memory cards. Wii has built-in WiFi. The price of VC game is totally subjective. The Wii hasnt been out a year and you want a Player's Choice line. The PS3 hasnt one either, nor 360.

EPIC FAIL.

Dual Shock 3 will probably be the same price as the Sixaxis. Have fun with buying 3rd party rechargeable batteries that will have their lifetime charges die out much sooner than the batteries for PS3 & especially 360. Wii does need memory cards if you want to actually buy a decent amount of games, especially neo geo & n64 games. Unless you don't mind deleting your games and redownloading them all the time. Funny that you find VC game prices to be a better value than PS3 or 360 DL game prices. Most of the games on the VC can be bought in a hard copy for much cheaper. I did not say I wanted a Players Choice line, obviously you didn't know that Nintendo announced they no longer plan to have one anymore... 360 does have one lol, its called Platinum Hits... And PS3 will very likely continue their Greatest Hits, they have already done so for PSP while Nintendo has not for DS... FAIL REVERSED...

You must work for Fox News, because that list was fair and balanced :roll:.PBSnipes

:lol:

Probably the worst comparison in System Wars history.. quite an accomplishment if you ask me. I think Joeamis deserves a round of applause.

Most people don't have wireless internet, so most people are paying for a Wifi adapter for Wii and not for 360.joeamis

Wii has built in Wifi....need to do some research buddy? Most people do have wireless internet in todays world, if you haven't noticed. Way more people buy WiFi adaptors for the 360 than anyothers, since it's the ony one without built in WiFi....damn even the DS has that. And don't lable me a crazy sheep, I got a 360 as well 8)

actually add tales of symphonia two to the second list and ill choose it. i can actually live on just my wii and pc alone. but i choose to have a 360 just in case. hoping i can get halo 3 tomorrow. but so many games on the top list i dont like or dont play.

o you added pc to the top list? i dont know but if you did this is retarted. so you want to take all games not on the wii and compare it to the wii's line up? at least make 4 lists.

I listed games that have not been announced yet to illustrate the types of games we will see for each list. To be different than just asking about games that are currently out, I'm trying to illustrate what the future will be like depending on if Wii & DS sell the most software or if 360, PS3, or PC do so. It's not 3 vs 1, its 1 market vs 1 market. Nintendo is going for 1 market, casual, minigames, games designed to appeal to the whole family, while PS3, 360, & PC are going for 1 market, hardcore games, games with depth, games with cinematics, great stories, and high production values. PS3, 360, or PC can provide this market even if only one of them succeeds, does best, that is why its 1 market. To think its merely 3 vs 1 is to ignore this fact.joeamis

Just stop. It doesn't work that way. Please, stop. I beg you to stop.

So computer and micorsoft, and sony, a list where you actually tried to make good, vs. Nintendo, a list that you wanted to sound crappy.

Are fanboys that desperate to bash Nintendo?

[QUOTE="joeamis"]I listed games that have not been announced yet to illustrate the types of games we will see for each list. To be different than just asking about games that are currently out, I'm trying to illustrate what the future will be like depending on if Wii & DS sell the most software or if 360, PS3, or PC do so. It's not 3 vs 1, its 1 market vs 1 market. Nintendo is going for 1 market, casual, minigames, games designed to appeal to the whole family, while PS3, 360, & PC are going for 1 market, hardcore games, games with depth, games with cinematics, great stories, and high production values. PS3, 360, or PC can provide this market even if only one of them succeeds, does best, that is why its 1 market. To think its merely 3 vs 1 is to ignore this fact.mdisen2

Just stop. It doesn't work that way. Please, stop. I beg you to stop.

people will just adapt either way. they will stop playing games or find good things about the games they get. and some of those sequels may still come out on a wii system. and of course dont forget many new ip's. i think even if the market goes casual, hardcore will soon pick up as many casuals start craving something more challenging. or just something different which may be something "hardcore" in the end.

Halo = Generic MP shooting game.

Bioshock and MP3 = Thinking mans shooters 8)

Shadow_op

Perfectly said, right on target.

Thing is, GS only seems to be looking towards mp anymore and less towards thinking man's games, and GS's review staff has some people that are clearly biased towards 360.

Lets face it, Prime 3 had at least as much differential with the previous Prime games (in a positive way) as Halo 3 did with its previous (the video review supposedly shows Halo 3's strengths over previous but it just looks like a souped up Halo 2), but while Prime 3 was marked down, Halo 3 got kudos from the reviewer.

This is why I'm likely switching my time over to a less biased site, the bias is so obvious here anymore, not to mention the .5 increment rating system was a step in the wrong direction.

[QUOTE="joeamis"]Most people don't have wireless internet, so most people are paying for a Wifi adapter for Wii and not for 360.Shadow_op

Wii has built in Wifi....need to do some research buddy? Most people do have wireless internet in todays world, if you haven't noticed. Way more people buy WiFi adaptors for the 360 than anyothers, since it's the ony one without built in WiFi....damn even the DS has that. And don't lable me a crazy sheep, I got a 360 as well 8)

HELLOOOOO. If you had actually read what I've typed in this thread you would know that I was talking about the fact that Wii has Wifi and not a wired broaband connection, therefore needing a Wifi adapter for those that are not wireless. Most people do NOT have wireless internet. While Reggie likes to claim that 50% have Wifi, real studies on this reveal only 19% of people have a wireless network in their home. So ya I'm the one who needs to research, @#$))@#... Oh ya, Proof: http://www.pewinternet.org/pdfs/PIP_Wireless.Use.pdf