which series has better rpgs: mario or pokemon

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#1 yaminion
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which of these two series had better rpgs and why
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#2 VendettaRed07
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pokemon, because its pokemon and its amazing
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#3 ULTIMATEZWARRIO
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this is not even a competetiion, pokemon
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#4 epic_pets
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pokemon by far
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#5 GamerBoy53
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Pokemon. Mario RPG's are decent but aren't as addictive or fun as Pokemon.
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#6 Guybrush_3
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I like Mario RPGs better
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#7 sargentbotk
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Pokemon. Why? Oh, um... because...it's Po-ke-mon!
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#8 JackDaniels121
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Mario rpgs? Like Super Mario RPG and Super Paper Mario?

Pokemon. Granting I'm basing this off the fact that I only played the gamecube paper mario and i use to love pokemon

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#9 kidcool189
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as much as i love pokemon, i gotta give the edge to mario series, precisly due to super mario rpg:legend of the seven stars, one of my favorite games of all time easily
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I think Super Mario RPG on the SNES is better than any singular Pokemon game, but the Pokemon games as a whole are better than the Mario RPGs as a whole.
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#11 Waffle_Fish
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Mario, because every single Mario RPG game is good, Pokemon ruby and Sapphire...werent so good
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#12 All_that_is_Man
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Both died along time ago....
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#13 tehgamer7
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Pokemon
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#14 desyple
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theres a reason pokemon games havent died out yet and they are consistently rpgs where as mario games change a lot. pokemon wins by far.
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#15 ShaneBeck
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Paper Mario, Legend of the Seven Stars and Mario and Luigi (SS + PIT) together trump the Pokemon games. It's close though.

By the way, I don't really see how this belongs in System Wars :?
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#16 Vyyral
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I prefer Super Mario RPG to all Pokemons combined. I find all Pokemons are too similar, and while they are addicive they're no match for Mario RPG.
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#17 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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Neither are RPG's
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#18 ArisShadows
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Pokemon
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#19 ShaneBeck
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Neither are RPG'sblue_hazy_basic


:? Please explain
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#20 desyple
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]Neither are RPG'sShaneBeck


:? Please explain

please do, im curious how you made this make sense in your head before posting.
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#21 All_that_is_Man
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well in either game you don't really choose any choice's, and your desitions don't effect the outcome of the game
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#22 foxhound_fox
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I haven't played any of the Paper Mario's but I know that Super Mario RPG is better than any Pokemon game. Pokemon, for me at least lost most of it's appeal after they went past the original 151.
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#23 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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[QUOTE="ShaneBeck"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]Neither are RPG'sdesyple


:? Please explain

please do, im curious how you made this make sense in your head before posting.

because a large number of games get called RPG's these days, which exclude one important element. Roleplaying. :)
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#24 MrSlippery39
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Super Mario RPG> Pokemon> Rest of Mario rpgs
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#25 ShaneBeck
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[QUOTE="desyple"][QUOTE="ShaneBeck"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]Neither are RPG'sblue_hazy_basic


:? Please explain

please do, im curious how you made this make sense in your head before posting.

because a large number of games get called RPG's these days, which exclude one important element. Roleplaying. :)



And what is your definition of roleplaying?
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#26 ArisShadows
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[QUOTE="desyple"][QUOTE="ShaneBeck"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]Neither are RPG'sblue_hazy_basic


:? Please explain

please do, im curious how you made this make sense in your head before posting.

because a large number of games get called RPG's these days, which exclude one important element. Roleplaying. :)

Both carry traits of a RPG, so they are obviously them. What genre would you put them in then?

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#27 footfoe2
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pokemon because you gotta catch 'em all

i wanna be the very best the best there ever was to catch them is my real test to train them is my dream (pokemon)

damn i forgot the rest

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="desyple"][QUOTE="ShaneBeck"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]Neither are RPG'sShaneBeck


:? Please explain

please do, im curious how you made this make sense in your head before posting.

because a large number of games get called RPG's these days, which exclude one important element. Roleplaying. :)



And what is your definition of roleplaying?

This is a little basic, no?

1. you make choices which affect your character's development

2. your choices influence the game and the world around you dynamically

3. most importantly you are able to interact with other characters emotionally within the game

A game where you are a forced to play a character with no ability to influence how they develop as a character with level grinding gameplay is not an RPG.

How do you define an RPG?

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#29 Guybrush_3
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[QUOTE="ShaneBeck"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="desyple"][QUOTE="ShaneBeck"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]Neither are RPG'sblue_hazy_basic



:? Please explain

please do, im curious how you made this make sense in your head before posting.

because a large number of games get called RPG's these days, which exclude one important element. Roleplaying. :)



And what is your definition of roleplaying?

This is a little basic, no?

1. you make choices which affect your character's development

2. your choices influence the game and the world around you dynamically

3. most importantly you are able to interact with other characters emotionally within the game

A game where you are a forced to play a character with no ability to influence how they develop as a character with level grinding gameplay is not an RPG.

How do you define an RPG?

So you dont consider the Final Fantasy series to be an RPG series?

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#30 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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So you dont consider the Final Fantasy series to be an RPG series?Guybrush_3
No.

How do you define a roleplaying game if there is no roleplaying? :?

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#31 ShaneBeck
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This is a little basic, no?

1. you make choices which affect your character's development

2. your choices influence the game and the world around you dynamically

3. most importantly you are able to interact with other characters emotionally within the game

A game where you are a forced to play a character with no ability to influence how they develop as a character with level grinding gameplay is not an RPG.

How do you define an RPG?

blue_hazy_basic


I guess I am a bit of a classicist. In the good ole' days, that kind of customization was not possible. What you're speaking of is what some RPGs have developed into, namely most Western RPGs. Most JRPGs (the Mario RPGs, Pokemon, Final Fantasy, etc.) may not fit the criteria you listed but are still infact RPGs, perhaps in the purest form.
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#32 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] This is a little basic, no?

1. you make choices which affect your character's development

2. your choices influence the game and the world around you dynamically

3. most importantly you are able to interact with other characters emotionally within the game

A game where you are a forced to play a character with no ability to influence how they develop as a character with level grinding gameplay is not an RPG.

How do you define an RPG?

ShaneBeck



I guess I am a bit of a ****cist. In the good ole' days, that kind of customization was not possible. What you're speaking of is what some RPGs have developed into, namely most Western RPGs. Most JRPGs (the Mario RPGs, Pokemon, Final Fantasy, etc.) may not fit the criteria you listed but are still infact RPGs, perhaps in the purest form.

You are talking about console gaming. Go play PC RPG's from 10 years ago.

Actually, go back 20 years ago to Pool of radience and similar games

EDIT just to make it clear JRPG's evolved out of western games, I think as a younger console gamer you haven't seen the genre develop

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Mario, no freaking doubt.
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Pokemon, gotta catch 'em all. You just gotta.
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#35 desyple
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[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]So you dont consider the Final Fantasy series to be an RPG series?blue_hazy_basic

No.

How do you define a roleplaying game if there is no roleplaying? :?

that made me lol
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#36 darkslider99
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Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars is a lot better than Pokemon, pokemon is good, don't get me wrong, but it's nothing compared to Mario RPG
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#37 NickGre
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Pokemon has pretty good RPG's, but Mario has some solid ones to.

Right now I'd say Mario

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#38 Rigga911
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pokemon is the best rpg game
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]

[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]So you dont consider the Final Fantasy series to be an RPG series?desyple

No.

How do you define a roleplaying game if there is no roleplaying? :?

that made me lol

LMAO! :lol:

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#40 Lightning-XIII
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pokemon by a whole lot
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#41 JetLag123
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I think Super Mario RPG on the SNES is better than any singular Pokemon game, but the Pokemon games as a whole are better than the Mario RPGs as a whole.DireToad

pretty much right on the dot

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[QUOTE="DireToad"]I think Super Mario RPG on the SNES is better than any singular Pokemon game, but the Pokemon games as a whole are better than the Mario RPGs as a whole.JetLag123

pretty much right on the dot

Yeah but Mario also had games like sunshine, so mario has overall more good games than pokemon and overall SUPER BAD GAMES ....So pokemon is just the same game...so pokemon wins