Who cares about graphics?

Isn't gameplay far more important?

Isn't gameplay far more important?

monkeytoes61

"Slowly and timidly raises hand"

Graphics make the game look more real, which helps with the immersion factor, thus making the game more enjoyable.

The appearance of one does not have to mean the absence of the other. That's basically all there is to discuss. I am not interested in many games that look like ass to be honest. But yes, I would take gameplay over hyper pretty graphics any day.

[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]

Isn't gameplay far more important?

IronBass

Who is "We"?

Cause I sure don't.

Isn't gameplay far more important?

monkeytoes61

Pretty much the Wii's slogan

[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]

Isn't gameplay far more important?

felipebo

Pretty much the Wii's slogan

I have a Wii, I care about graphics. I'm not going to buy piss poor looking games. I'm going to buy stuff with effort thrown into, nice looking games by the systems standards.

Isn't gameplay far more important?

monkeytoes61

Isn't gameplay far more important?

monkeytoes61

I don't necessarily care if they are bad, but I do appreciate good graphics.

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]

Isn't gameplay far more important?

Who is "We"?

Cause I sure don't.

I care equally about both. When I played Killzone 2, I hated it because it's gameplay didn't suit me. But when I go back and play old PS2 shooters, the lack of good graphics definitely bothers me.

[QUOTE="awssk8er716"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"] We care about both.IronBass

Who is "We"?

Cause I sure don't.

I thought you were talking about your brother :|

[QUOTE="felipebo"]

[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]

Isn't gameplay far more important?

ActicEdge

Pretty much the Wii's slogan

I have a Wii, I care about graphics. I'm not going to buy piss poor looking games. I'm going to buy stuff with effort thrown into, nice looking games by the systems standards.

I also have a Wii, but once you go HD, you never go back

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="felipebo"]

Pretty much the Wii's slogan

felipebo

I have a Wii, I care about graphics. I'm not going to buy piss poor looking games. I'm going to buy stuff with effort thrown into, nice looking games by the systems standards.

I also have a Wii, but once you go HD, you never go back

I find that sad. That's just me though.

but once you go HD, you never go back

true. tried playing PS2 games last week and got bored to death and back on my current consoles. :P

I LIKE graphics, but I don't really care about them too much.

[QUOTE="felipebo"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

I have a Wii, I care about graphics. I'm not going to buy piss poor looking games. I'm going to buy stuff with effort thrown into, nice looking games by the systems standards.

ActicEdge

I also have a Wii, but once you go HD, you never go back

I find that sad. That's just me though.

Joking, but seriously, I bought a component cable for what, a hundred dollars, and it changed nothing. It gave me that "push" I needed to buy another console

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="felipebo"]

I also have a Wii, but once you go HD, you never go back

felipebo

I find that sad. That's just me though.

Joking, but seriously, I bought a component cable for what, a hundred dollars, and it changed nothing. It gave me that "push" I needed to buy another console

You spent a hundred dollars on a component cable? You got ripped the hell off.

"Slowly and timidly raises hand"

skinny_man_69

I don't remember the actual price, but yeah it was outrageous. But I didn't mind at the time, I kept thinking "imagine how great they'll look", and was soooo dissapointed.

In a time where game play AND graphics are implemented rather well on most cases, the whole game play > graphics argument has become more or less redundant is recent years.

[QUOTE="Duxsox56"]

Graphics make the game look more real, which helps with the immersion factor, thus making the game more enjoyable.

farrell2k

Ehh But it is a lot harder to get immersed in a game world that looks like this

as opposed to this

[QUOTE="Duxsox56"]

Graphics make the game look more real, which helps with the immersion factor, thus making the game more enjoyable.

farrell2k

I'm sorry, but no.

Immersion relies heavily on how a game is presented and how it looks. If a game looks like ass, it's practically impossible to become immersed.

If a game say like Halo: ODST looked like Halo: CE, the whole immersive feel of being truly alone in the dark would be gone entirely.

Since when does great graphics make a game with good gameplay worse?

Graphics make the gameplay better... It's like saying that a blind veteran sniper can fire his weapon more accurately than a 15-year-old kid.

It's like saying that a blind veteran sniper can fire his weapon more accurately than a 15-year-old kid.

Hanass

Umm... how is it like saying that? At all?

[QUOTE="Hanass"]

It's like saying that a blind veteran sniper can fire his weapon more accurately than a 15-year-old kid.

Duxsox56

Umm... how is it like saying that? At all?

Try to play the game with your TV turned off, I'm sure gameplay is going to make it more interesting. Who cares about graphics, right?

It's like saying that a blind veteran sniper can fire his weapon more accurately than a 15-year-old kid.

Hanass

How is it like that at all?

I don't necessarily care if they are bad, but I do appreciate good graphics.

randomwiiplayer

[QUOTE="Duxsox56"]

[QUOTE="Hanass"]

It's like saying that a blind veteran sniper can fire his weapon more accurately than a 15-year-old kid.

Hanass

Umm... how is it like saying that? At all?

Try to play the game with the TV closed, I'm sure gameplay is going to make it more interesting. Who cares about graphics, right?

Don't you mean, 'off'? :P

If the game has no graphics we cannot see the gameplay.

[QUOTE="Hanass"]

It's like saying that a blind veteran sniper can fire his weapon more accurately than a 15-year-old kid.

Phoenix534

How is it like that at all?

both people = 2 people playing a video game

blind guy = person who's playing with terrible graphics

kid = person who's playing with good graphics

accuracy = fun factor (gameplay)

Is it that hard to understand?

Isn't gameplay far more important?

monkeytoes61

[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

[QUOTE="Hanass"]

It's like saying that a blind veteran sniper can fire his weapon more accurately than a 15-year-old kid.

Hanass

How is it like that at all?

both people = 2 people playing a video game

blind guy = person who's playing with terrible graphics

kid = person who's playing with good graphics

accuracy = fun factor (gameplay)

Is it that hard to understand?

That's a horrible comparison. If a game has great gameplay but bad graphics, unless you're a graphics whore you'll appreciate the gameplay throughout the game. If it's the other way around, you can appreciate the graphics, but the gameplay will eventually make you quit playing far to early to fully appreciate the game for what it is. If you were going to make the blind guy comparison, that would mean a game had no graphics.

[QUOTE="Hanass"]

[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

How is it like that at all?

Phoenix534

both people = 2 people playing a video game

blind guy = person who's playing with terrible graphics

kid = person who's playing with good graphics

accuracy = fun factor (gameplay)

Is it that hard to understand?

That's a horrible comparison. If a game has great gameplay but bad graphics, unless you're a graphics whore you'll appreciate the gameplay throughout the game. If it's the other way around, you can appreciate the graphics, but the gameplay will eventually make you quit playing far to early to fully appreciate the game for what it is. If you were going to make the blind guy comparison, that would mean a game had no graphics.

I never said that gameplay wasn't needed. I said that graphics make the gameplay better whether you care about them or not.

I tend to care about bothhh

[QUOTE="MadVybz"]

[QUOTE="farrell2k"] Bullcrap! Your imagination is what makes it immersive and enjoyable. farrell2k

I'm sorry, but no.

Immersion relies heavily on how a game is presented and how it looks. If a game looks like ass, it's practically impossible to become immersed.

If a game say like Halo: ODST looked like Halo: CE, the whole immersive feel of being truly alone in the dark would be gone entirely.

I agree with you. Graphics have nothing to do with the immersion. I can still get into classic games.

I care equally about both. When I played Killzone 2, I hated it because it's gameplay didn't suit me. But when I go back and play old PS2 shooters, the lack of good graphics definitely bothers me.

AdjacentLives