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#1 AdmiralRJW
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Nobody ever seems to bring up how good PopCap, myself included.

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#2 Legendaryscmt
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Well, since BO just came out, I'd say Treyarch (at least for its CoD games). The games were solid, and from what I can see, people only complained about them since they weren't as good as Infinity Ward. Doesn't mean that they were a horrible developer.

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well that's mostly because popcap games aren't the type of game subject to discussion in SW, and definitely not the main source of games for your typical SW lurker. i doubt you'll see a bejewled 3 hype thread or graphics comparison thread :P
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I would have said From Software before Demon Souls or Irrational before Bioshock (it is amazing how one game all of asudden puts these companies on the map when they were talented well before these games even released... how many of you knew Bioware back when they were developing MDK 2?) as I always thought they were fantastic developers, however I personally think Obsidian takes the cake now. They make good if not great games, have great talent behind them, and yet all people ever see from them is "OMG Game is so buggy its crap!" You know what? IF a developer has poor time management, so long as they make up for it post release, I don't see the problem.
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#5 BPoole96
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Platinum Games. Bayonetta and Vanquish don't get enough love here

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I would have said From Software before Demon Souls or Irrational before Bioshock (it is amazing how one game all of asudden puts these companies on the map when they were talented well before these games even released... how many of you knew Bioware back when they were developing MDK 2?) as I always thought they were fantastic developers, however I personally think Obsidian takes the cake now. They make good if not great games, have great talent behind them, and yet all people ever see from them is "OMG Game is so buggy its crap!" You know what? IF a developer has poor time management, so long as they make up for it post release, I don't see the problem.gamer620
when the game stops being enjoyable because they forgot to hire testers, it's an issue. people having to reset their saves (or even losing them because the save would require a nonexistent DLC) because of glitches is a big deal.
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They need to update the iphone version of plan vs zombies withretina display. Other than that they are great.

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#8 HavocV3
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Volition.

I'd guess a lot of the people here who've played Red Faction/Saints Row might not even recognize them straight off if they were mentioned.

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Insomniac...

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#10 BPoole96
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Volition.

I'd guess a lot of the people here who've played Red Faction/Saints Row might not even recognize them straight off if they were mentioned.

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I still play Red Faction 1 and 2 from time to time. Love those games

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#11 gamer620
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[QUOTE="gamer620"]I would have said From Software before Demon Souls or Irrational before Bioshock (it is amazing how one game all of asudden puts these companies on the map when they were talented well before these games even released... how many of you knew Bioware back when they were developing MDK 2?) as I always thought they were fantastic developers, however I personally think Obsidian takes the cake now. They make good if not great games, have great talent behind them, and yet all people ever see from them is "OMG Game is so buggy its crap!" You know what? IF a developer has poor time management, so long as they make up for it post release, I don't see the problem.BrunoBRS
when the game stops being enjoyable because they forgot to hire testers, it's an issue. people having to reset their saves (or even losing them because the save would require a nonexistent DLC) because of glitches is a big deal.

I have never once had any game breaking bugs in any obsidian title i've played (haven't played AP so i can't comment on that, but Kotor 2, NWN2 I HAVE played) Point is, the company puts together a great game marred by flaws that get ironed out post release and when their games are working properly, they are fantastic.

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#12 BrunoBRS
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oh and here's my pick for "underappreciated dev"

http://static2.videogamer.com/videogamer/images/pub/large/crytek.jpg

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#13 Phoenix534
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GSC Game World is my pick. The STALKER games are incredible and no one cares about them here because they're PC exclusives.

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#14 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="gamer620"]I would have said From Software before Demon Souls or Irrational before Bioshock (it is amazing how one game all of asudden puts these companies on the map when they were talented well before these games even released... how many of you knew Bioware back when they were developing MDK 2?) as I always thought they were fantastic developers, however I personally think Obsidian takes the cake now. They make good if not great games, have great talent behind them, and yet all people ever see from them is "OMG Game is so buggy its crap!" You know what? IF a developer has poor time management, so long as they make up for it post release, I don't see the problem.gamer620
when the game stops being enjoyable because they forgot to hire testers, it's an issue. people having to reset their saves (or even losing them because the save would require a nonexistent DLC) because of glitches is a big deal.

I have never once had any game breaking bugs in any obsidian title i've played (haven't played AP so i can't comment on that, but Kotor 2, NWN2 I HAVE played) Point is, the company puts together a great game marred by flaws that get ironed out post release

i was talking about new vegas mostly. and patches are exactly what the name imply: an attempt to heal the damage that HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE (i'd use italic instead of caps if quick reply had it, sorry). so had they kept the game another month or two for QA testing, people wouldn't complain so much about them.
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I will have to go with Atlus. It seems most people want to look them over since most of their games are too Japanese styled. I've begun to take more interest in a game if it has the name Atlus on it nowadays.

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#17 Phoenix534
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I will have to go with Atlus. It seems most people want to look them over since most of their games are too Japanese styled. I've begun to take more interest in a game if it has the name Atlus on it nowadays.

Ragnarok1051

Speaking of Atlus, when the heck are we going to get some more info on Catherine?

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#18 KILL3RGAM3R23
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i think cod because its always the best selling game every year since modern warfare
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#19 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

I will have to go with Atlus. It seems most people want to look them over since most of their games are too Japanese styled. I've begun to take more interest in a game if it has the name Atlus on it nowadays.

Phoenix534

Speaking of Atlus, when the heck are we going to get some more info on Catherine?

I think someone made a thread about new info, but I'm not sure if that's new info for those following the game.
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#20 Yangire
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Telegames, Success, Taito, Michealsoft, Neverland (IF), Asmik Ace, GN Software, EXP, Zero Div, Koei, Alice Soft, System Soft, etc.

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#21 LegatoSkyheart
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whoever made Little King's Story.

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That's what I came to post.
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whoever made Little King's Story.

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I believe that was Marvelous maybe.
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#24 keech
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Platinum Games. Bayonetta and Vanquish don't get enough love here

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This is the first dev that came to mind whe I read the topic title. Even beyond Bayonetta and Vanquish they have Madworld a great game that didn't really get much of an audience because it was exclusive to the Wii. Most of the people at Platinum also worked on Okami and Viewtiful Joe 1 and 2 back when there were working for Capcom at Clover Studios.

If you can say anything about Platinum is that they know how to make hyper stylized and eye-catching games.

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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

whoever made Little King's Story.

Ragnarok1051
I believe that was Marvelous maybe.

i thought they just published it? i can't remember.
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#26 Half-Way
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I will have to go with Atlus. It seems most people want to look them over since most of their games are too Japanese styled. I've begun to take more interest in a game if it has the name Atlus on it nowadays.

Ragnarok1051

i have to go with this.

They did some amazing stuff for the JRPG genre, its one of the few great companies left when it comes to RPGs in general.

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Telegames, Success, Taito, Michealsoft, Neverland (IF), Asmik Ace, GN Software, EXP, Zero Div, Koei, Alice Soft, System Soft, etc.Yangire
**** yeah sengoku rance
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#28 Luxen90
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whoever made Little King's Story.

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Cing, who also developed Hotel Dusk, I believe.
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whoever made Little King's Story.

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A little too late now, they're bankrupt.
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#30 htekemerald
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Obsidian

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Nintendo. So much bashing but they made (and still do) some of the highest rated games.
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#32 Phoenix534
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[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

I will have to go with Atlus. It seems most people want to look them over since most of their games are too Japanese styled. I've begun to take more interest in a game if it has the name Atlus on it nowadays.

Ragnarok1051

Speaking of Atlus, when the heck are we going to get some more info on Catherine?

I think someone made a thread about new info, but I'm not sure if that's new info for those following the game.

I just saw that thread. Some of those screens are, disturbing to say the least. I can't wait!

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#33 Diviniuz
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i think cod because its always the best selling game every year since modern warfareKILL3RGAM3R23
cod isn't a developer
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#34 Punjabiking101
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Epic. Why? Because SW considers them to be one of the worst devs around now. The creators of STALKER, Forza, and many indie pc devs.
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easily lionhead, but only on this board. The average consumer actually seems to show them the respect they deserve via sales. While they arent technical wizards like an ID software... their games ooze creativity and charm.

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#36 breakinglaws
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GSC Gameworld without a doubt imo. Now that S.T.A.L.K.E.R 2 might go to consoles they might get the respect they deserve.

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#37 vashkey
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Any dev that isn't Valve, Blizzard or Nintendo generally receives an unwarranted amount of disrespect around here.

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#38 Master_ShakeXXX
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Platinum Games

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#39 CajunShooter
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Visceral Games

Game Republic

Ninja Theory

Sega WOW

Creative Assembly

Starbreeze Studios

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#40 markinthedark
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Any dev that isn't Valve, Blizzard or Nintendo generally receives an unwarranted amount of disrespect around here.

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lol, this is probably true. Especially valve.

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#41 nbessiner
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Insomniac

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#42 badtaker
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Bohemia Interactive
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#43 Filthybastrd
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Obsidian. On a paranoid day, I think that Bethesda deliberately did'nt do proper QA to make themselves look better.

Yeah, that's paranoia but Obsisidan always seem to be rushed. I mean they needed less than a month to fix the game and during the wait, modders managed to sort the framerate issues somewhat by thesemlves.

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#44 FIipMode
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Insomniac came to the noggin when I saw this thread.
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#45 racing1750
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I'd say treyarch.
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#46 lordreaven
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Paradox Interactive. Europa Universalis 3 is just brilliant. And Victoria 2 is great aswell. I also have to menion Tripwire, I have enjoyed all of their games to date.

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#48 Heil68
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Activision.
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#50 Some-Mist
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vanillaware. they developed odin sphere, grimgrimoire, and muramasa: the demon blade.