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#1 final_fortress
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that the wii is going to set a trend for future consoles such as keeping basically the same hardware and trying to be innovative? i wouldnt have a problem with this if the wiis supposed innovation was actually game changing but all it does is replace pushing a button with waggling a stick. if ps4 and xbox3 have the same graphics as this gen and some wierd controller or some gimmick used to gain hype ill be pissed. i hope sony and microsoft will do whats best for the gaming community and and produce cutting edge next gen consoles while nintendo can do its little innovation deal that sells so well to the public.
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#2 humber_matus
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Yes, i am very worried about that ... sony and microsoft both have responsibility of keeping actual gaming alive, i hope they dont f it up.
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#3 DementedDragon
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Why worry?

Imo, the only thing the Wii did was further separate the "casual" from the "hardcore." Next gen, all I see is Nintendo sticking to it's casual market, Microsoft sticking to the hardcore and Sony continuing to attempt to strike a balance.

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me!

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I am definately worried. I'm hoping we don't see Halo with a Wiimote type controller.
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#6 final_fortress
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Why worry?

Imo, the only thing the Wii did was further separate the "casual" from the "hardcore." Next gen, all I see is Nintendo sticking to it's casual market, Microsoft sticking to the hardcore and Sony continuing to attempt to strike a balance.

DementedDragon

why worry? because companies tend to go where the sales are, they are looking for the best way to make money after all is said and done

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#7 chikenfriedrice
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I am definately worried. I'm hoping we don't see Halo with a Wiimote type controller.waynehead895

my worst nightmare....let the Wii be the Wii and please let us use our gamepads....I would quit gaming if it is all wiimotes

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Aslong as they don't rely too heavily on motion control I would probably be happy with them, I don't care if they don't make a leap in graphical quality, the games this gen have brilliant graphics and I could live with them for a while. In the worst case situation where they are highly casual oritentated I would probably get a good gaming PC before I consider a console.
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Wii have to stop supprting the wii and stop pretending its fun so that nintendo notices this, thats the only way its gonna change. i've been trying to say this when the wii first came out. i said its not going to be loved by the true gamers and i said that it will have no games in future but they just flamed me.

Another way is to just kill those sheep and those pl that like the wii in your house :twisted:

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why worry? because companies tend to go where the sales are, they are looking for the best way to make money after all is said and done

final_fortress

If that were the case, then a lot of multi-plat games this gen wouldn't be 360/PS3 only.

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#11 final_fortress
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Wii have to stop supprting the wii and pretend its fun so that nintendo notices this, thats the only way its gonna change. i've been trying to say this when the wii first came out. i said its not going to be loved by the true gamers and i said that it will have no games in future but they just flamed me.

Another way is to just kill those sheep and those pl that like the wii in your house :twist:

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haha yea my aunt has a wii and the only game she has is wii sports and wii fit. it is annoying when she says how great the wii is because shes not even playing the few good games on it, but i just let it go and dont say anything

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#12 GootHimp
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[QUOTE="GootHimp"]

Wii have to stop supprting the wii and pretend its fun so that nintendo notices this, thats the only way its gonna change. i've been trying to say this when the wii first came out. i said its not going to be loved by the true gamers and i said that it will have no games in future but they just flamed me.

Another way is to just kill those sheep and those pl that like the wii in your house :twisted:

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haha yea my aunt has a wii and the only game she has is wii sports and wii fit. it is annoying when she says how great the wii is because shes not even playing the few good games on it, but i just let it go and dont say anything

Yea and i hate it when ppl say how great the wii isand it has so many good games on it. They obviously dont know anything video games and dont listen to me when i try to explain them that its not that good, they just ignore me. Makes me want to throw my wii out of the window.

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#13 final_fortress
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[QUOTE="final_fortress"]

why worry? because companies tend to go where the sales are, they are looking for the best way to make money after all is said and done

DementedDragon

If that were the case, then a lot of multi-plat games this gen wouldn't be 360/PS3 only.

yeah i can see where youre coming from, hopefully that mindset carries to the next generation as well

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#14 final_fortress
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[QUOTE="final_fortress"][QUOTE="GootHimp"]

Wii have to stop supprting the wii and pretend its fun so that nintendo notices this, thats the only way its gonna change. i've been trying to say this when the wii first came out. i said its not going to be loved by the true gamers and i said that it will have no games in future but they just flamed me.

Another way is to just kill those sheep and those pl that like the wii in your house :twisted:

GootHimp

haha yea my aunt has a wii and the only game she has is wii sports and wii fit. it is annoying when she says how great the wii is because shes not even playing the few good games on it, but i just let it go and dont say anything

Yea and i hate it when ppl say how great the wii isand it has so many good games on it. They obviously dont know anything video games and dont listen to me when i try to explain them that its not that good, they just ignore me. Makes me want to throw my wii out of the window.

haha thats why its not worth trying to explain to them. they arent hardcore gamers and deserve to have their system but i dont want that affecting the hardcore systems at all

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to all hardcore gamers, pay attention: THERE IS ROOM FOR BOTH HARDCORE AND CASUALS GAMERS. GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD

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to all hardcore gamers, pay attention: THERE IS ROOM FOR BOTH HARDCORE AND CASUALS GAMERS. GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD

ogvampire

yeh, but companies will be companies, they will flock to where the grass is greener.

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#17 Saturos3091
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Not worried at all, although I'd prefer MS/Sony to do their own thing. I prefer motion control for some games, in fact I think if they did it right the Wii could easily be the console FPS/RTS king, but of course their online infrastructure is fairly underdeveloped.

Next gen I probably won't buy the next Xbox/PS due to them not changing enough. People are afraid of any sort of change it seems. I'm going to stick to my PC, since all the best 360/PS3 games this gen are have been multiplat.
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#18 final_fortress
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to all hardcore gamers, pay attention: THERE IS ROOM FOR BOTH HARDCORE AND CASUALS GAMERS. GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD

ogvampire

So sony adding motion control to its controllers at the last minute doesnt show any interest in following nintendos way of thinking?

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to all hardcore gamers, pay attention: THERE IS ROOM FOR BOTH HARDCORE AND CASUALS GAMERS. GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD

ogvampire

yea on second thought, i've never seen my family play games and not sucking at it and luvin it.but it still doesnt deserve what it does on SW

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#20 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

to all hardcore gamers, pay attention: THERE IS ROOM FOR BOTH HARDCORE AND CASUALS GAMERS. GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD

humber_matus

yeh, but companies will be companies, they will flock to where the grass is greener.

true, but hardcore games almost always sell in the millions, those arent gonna go away.

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#21 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

to all hardcore gamers, pay attention: THERE IS ROOM FOR BOTH HARDCORE AND CASUALS GAMERS. GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD

final_fortress

So sony adding motion control to its controllers at the last minute doesnt show any interest in following nintendos way of thinking?

its just an option for devs to use... it doesnt have to be applied

also, dont forget that sony pretty much started this casual movement anyway

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#23 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

to all hardcore gamers, pay attention: THERE IS ROOM FOR BOTH HARDCORE AND CASUALS GAMERS. GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD

GootHimp

yea on second thought, i've never seen my family play games and not sucking at it and luvin it.but it still doesnt deserve what it does on SW

the Wii just applies to different people.... its only a bad thing to hardcore gamers that are used to their usual lot of games.

but its not like the Wii has turned its back on the 'core' nintendo audience. the Wii already has had the big games from Nintendo released within 1 1/2 years: Zelda, Metroid, Mario, SSBB, MKWii...

those are pretty much the games that 'core' nintendo gamers are accustomed to...