Who else misses a two console war?

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#1 TheGreenToad
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I think that if the console war only had 2 consoles everyone would be much better off. I think that it is ridiculous that the PS3 and the 360 both exist. They are essentially offering you the same experience. They have about the same graphics, extra services and besides a few exclusives they have the same games. It just seems to make sense that we only need one of them. It really wouldn't matter which one stayed because either would be the same without its main competition. If there was only one "hardcore" (sorry Wii) no one would have to deal with not playing exclusives. Everyone could play MGS4 and Halo 3. For multi-plat games there would be less time consumed for porting it so it could come out sooner and it would cost less too so maybe games could finally start getting cheaper. Plus it just seems like so many awesome things could be done if all of the hardcore gamers owned the same machine. I just don't understand why gamers need to be split on what console to get when they essentially get the same experience.

Note: I didn't include the Wii in this because it is radically different from the PS3 and 360 which is what the console war should be. All of the consoles are completely different and you get completely different experiences from them.

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#2 -DrRobotnik-
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Look at last gen. All the consoles were pretty much the same too.
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#3 whocares4peace
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Yeah, I totally want less competition. I know it'll benefit me as a consumer.
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#4 110million
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I'd rather the war be between the 360 and PS3 alone, if you had to pick 2 consoles.
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#5 Ragnarok1051
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PS1 and N64 days were some good days indeed.
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#6 locopatho
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There's always been more than 2 consoles though. I'm ok with a few different ones.
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#7 Kratos_OMEGA
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There is a 2 console war between PS3 and 360. Technicaly not because other systems exist but in reality both these consoles have roughely the same power...roughely the same capaibilties...games and Target audience.

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#8 ash10692
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PS1 and N64 days were some good days indeed.Ragnarok1051

There was a third console that gen. Dreamcast. Though they kinda flew the white flag before the end...

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#9 Tiefster
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We don't need less competition we need more varied competition. MS and Sony essentially compete for the same market in NA and Europe and the same games are pretty much released for each console. There is nothing really unique about each aside from some niche titles.
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#10 SpruceCaboose
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Why is more choice pointless, especially with a market that is easily supporting all the choices?
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#11 Chilled_AB
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I don't know, I kinda like a 3 console gen
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#12 PC360Wii
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It Practically is a 2 console war here, Wii doesnt produce enough good games to bother mentioning half the time.

About a year ago there were alot more sheep here, now thier topics have dwindled to near nothing.

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#13 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]PS1 and N64 days were some good days indeed.ash10692

There was a third console that gen. Dreamcast. Though they kinda flew the white flag before the end...

Nope. That was the Sega Saturn. The Dreamcast was in the last gen with the Xbox, GC, and PS2.

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#14 BumFluff122
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When was the last time there was a 2 console war? Are we completely omitting Sega's consoles from this discussion?
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#15 SpruceCaboose
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When was the last time there was a 2 console war? Are we completely omitting Sega's consoles from this discussion?BumFluff122

Genesis and SNES were probably the last time only 2 majors were in the same generation, but that discounts the Neo Geo and TurboGrafx

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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]PS1 and N64 days were some good days indeed.ash10692

There was a third console that gen. Dreamcast. Though they kinda flew the white flag before the end...

no. the 3rd console was Sega Saturn
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#17 jim_shorts
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More competition is better for the consumer, so I don't miss it.
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#18 trakem
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Yes, because we all know that direct competition is a bad thing since the console makers are just making their consoles great out of the goodness of their hearts and not because they need to be able to compete with their competitors.
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#19 famicommander
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[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]When was the last time there was a 2 console war? Are we completely omitting Sega's consoles from this discussion?SpruceCaboose

Genesis and SNES were probably the last time only 2 majors were in the same generation, but that discounts the Neo Geo and TurboGrafx

Which is a ridiculous thing to do. The TurboGrafx-16 sold nearly as many units as the Saturn and Dreamcast did. It also had a very wide selection of great games. The Neo Geo was also a true competitor. Even if it was ridiculously priced, there is still a rabidly dedicated community for the system even to this day. Hell, the system had a 14 year life span (1990-2004).
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#20 trakem
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When was the last time there was a 2 console war? Are we completely omitting Sega's consoles from this discussion?BumFluff122

Pretty much (unless we're going back to the Genesis or Sega Master System days). Seriously though, given how un-successful Sega has been with the Saturn and Dreamcast why wouldn't you omit them?

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#21 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]When was the last time there was a 2 console war? Are we completely omitting Sega's consoles from this discussion?famicommander

Genesis and SNES were probably the last time only 2 majors were in the same generation, but that discounts the Neo Geo and TurboGrafx

Which is a ridiculous thing to do. The TurboGrafx-16 sold nearly as many units as the Saturn and Dreamcast did. It also had a very wide selection of great games. The Neo Geo was also a true competitor. Even if it was ridiculously priced, there is still a rabidly dedicated community for the system even to this day. Hell, the system had a 14 year life span (1990-2004).

I didn't say it wasn't ridiculous, but so many systems get overshadowed. Hell, this generation, with only 3 non-handheld consoles, is the least amount of consoles that the market has had to this point.

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#22 Nintendo_Ownes7
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Their was never only two consoles because

  • First Gen = Magnavox Odyssey, Pong (Home version I'm counting it because it had a whole console and two controllers since their was no console to play it on), and Coleco Telstar
  • 2nd Gen = Fairchild Channel F, Atari 2600, Magnavox Odyssey II, Mattel Intellivision, Atari 5200, Milton Bradley Vectrex, Emerson Arcadia 2001, Colecovision, and SEGA SG-1000
  • 3rd Gen = NES/Famicom, PV-1000, Super Cassette Vision, Supergame VG 3000, SEGA Master System, and Atari 7800
  • 4th Gen = TurboGrafx-16/PC-Engine, SEGA Genesis/Mega Drive, Neo-Geo, SNES/Super Famicom, Amiga CDtv, and CD-i
  • 5th Gen = 3DO, Amiga CD32, Atari Jaguar, SEGA Saturn, Sony Playstation, Nintendo 64, Apple Bandai Pippin, Casio Loopy, Neo-Geo CD, and PC-FX
  • 6th Gen = SEGA Dreamcast, PS2, GCN, and Xbox
  • 7th Gen = Xbox 360, Nintendo Wii, and PS3

Alot of those consoles didn't matter.

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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]PS1 and N64 days were some good days indeed.ash10692

There was a third console that gen. Dreamcast. Though they kinda flew the white flag before the end...

uhm no, the DC was PS1 and GC and Xbox gen

your thinking the SATURN

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Yeah, I totally want less competition. I know it'll benefit me as a consumer.whocares4peace

I know, right? Let's just combine all companies into one company, I am sure that would end well for all involved parties.

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#25 mephisto_11
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i dont even consider the wii in this war anymore. its a two console war to me.
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i think the real war this gen is PS3 and 360, the wii...is just for the kids, ignorant i know, but alot of the best sellers are games that either the Wii cant handle or would seem too mature (as in violent) to be on a wii
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[QUOTE="whocares4peace"]Yeah, I totally want less competition. I know it'll benefit me as a consumer.excelR83

I know, right? Let's just combine all companies into one company, I am sure that would end well for all involved parties.

Yeah im sure that the companys would do that haha jks, that would be awesome (iv got xbox 360 but id love to get resistance 2) but im pretty sure that will never happen not in this world anyway (with money to be made.)

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#28 excelR83
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i think the real war this gen is PS3 and 360, the wii...is just for the kids, ignorant i know, but alot of the best sellers are games that either the Wii cant handle or would seem too mature (as in violent) to be on a wiiKGB32

The Wii is more like an appliance or something that you don't really need, like a blender, but people buy it for the occasional time it comes in handy.

The real war is Wii vs Black & Decker :lol:

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i think the real war this gen is PS3 and 360, the wii...is just for the kids, ignorant i know, but alot of the best sellers are games that either the Wii cant handle or would seem too mature (as in violent) to be on a wiiKGB32

Well that "just for kids" system is selling more than both high powered, overrated systems combined.....say something

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#30 naruto7777
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yes i wish the wii was dead
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#31 ChiSoxBombers
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It essentially is a 2 console war (360 vs. PS3). its better if their near the same because that heats up the arguements more. Besides, Nintendo's been doin there own thing for the past 8 years you cant throw them in SW arguements. Their design is for ages 3-12 for gods sake.
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[QUOTE="KGB32"]i think the real war this gen is PS3 and 360, the wii...is just for the kids, ignorant i know, but alot of the best sellers are games that either the Wii cant handle or would seem too mature (as in violent) to be on a wiicrushan30

Well that "just for kids" system is selling more than both high powered, overrated systems combined.....say something

ok enjoy we cheer and cooking mama this christmas, i'll stick to gears 2, banjo 3, fallout 3, resistance 2, prince of persia, mirror's edge etc

i haven't bought a game for wii since smg. the lineup is utter crap

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[QUOTE="crushan30"]

[QUOTE="KGB32"]i think the real war this gen is PS3 and 360, the wii...is just for the kids, ignorant i know, but alot of the best sellers are games that either the Wii cant handle or would seem too mature (as in violent) to be on a wiimephisto_11

Well that "just for kids" system is selling more than both high powered, overrated systems combined.....say something

ok enjoy we cheer and cooking mama this christmas, i'll stick to gears 2, banjo 3, fallout 3, resistance 2, prince of persia, mirror's edge etc

i haven't bought a game for wii since smg. the lineup is utter crap

You do that. And I will enjoy the best of both worlds.

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[QUOTE="mephisto_11"][QUOTE="crushan30"]

[QUOTE="KGB32"]i think the real war this gen is PS3 and 360, the wii...is just for the kids, ignorant i know, but alot of the best sellers are games that either the Wii cant handle or would seem too mature (as in violent) to be on a wiimdisen

Well that "just for kids" system is selling more than both high powered, overrated systems combined.....say something

ok enjoy we cheer and cooking mama this christmas, i'll stick to gears 2, banjo 3, fallout 3, resistance 2, prince of persia, mirror's edge etc

i haven't bought a game for wii since smg. the lineup is utter crap

You do that. And I will enjoy the best of both worlds.

Best of both worlds? I know what the 360/PS3 world has to offer (greatness, esp this holiday season), what does the Wii world have to offer? We Cheer? Wii Sports 2? Wii Music? Unannounced untitled no release date twinkle in the eye Zelda or Mario announcements?

I think I will stick to my world.

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#35 jasonharris48
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Personally I never cared about console wars. Most of the time I usually brought every console out the current gen and never really had a favorite.
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#36 zomgwtfbbqlol1
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PS1 and N64 days were some good days indeed.Ragnarok1051
yea...but it was always 3 bcz sega existed, and right after sega fell out of the game Microsoft "jumped in"... oy gaming is not what it used to be the xbox did nothing but clone the playstation (stfu fanboys u knwo what i mean dont give me ur whole crap about inovation) and the wii changed direction this gen, so u have the PS3 vs 360...and looks like PS3 will win, but in the end the Wii would have been a MASSIVE victory for nintendo... if we're lucky microsoft will go back to PC in some time from now and leave hardware to the "pros."

but w/e as long as PC gaming is alive im happy

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#37 agentzero23
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[QUOTE="KGB32"]i think the real war this gen is PS3 and 360, the wii...is just for the kids, ignorant i know, but alot of the best sellers are games that either the Wii cant handle or would seem too mature (as in violent) to be on a wiiexcelR83

The Wii is more like an appliance or something that you don't really need, like a blender, but people buy it for the occasional time it comes in handy.

The real war is Wii vs Black & Decker :lol:

:lol:

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#38 KGB32
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[QUOTE="KGB32"]i think the real war this gen is PS3 and 360, the wii...is just for the kids, ignorant i know, but alot of the best sellers are games that either the Wii cant handle or would seem too mature (as in violent) to be on a wiicrushan30

Well that "just for kids" system is selling more than both high powered, overrated systems combined.....say something

it only sells more because it's cheaper and it has the classic videogame idols (samus, mario,link etc.) but they are becoming re-hashes (as amazing as zelda TP and SMG is, i'd prefer zelda OoT and SM64). but the main problem with the Wii is what i was getting at in my first post, it's missing: GTAIV, Unreal Tournament 3, far cry 2, Battlefield Bad company, Call of Duty 4, Assassin's Creed, ninja gaiden, Skate, Rainbow Six Vegas series, Final fantasy XIII, Silent hill homecoming, command and conquer games, Ace Combat series, The Orange Box, and many other 3rd party developers, i could mention the PS3's and 360's exclusives but that would take longer. i hope i've made my point though.

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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]PS1 and N64 days were some good days indeed.ash10692

There was a third console that gen. Dreamcast. Though they kinda flew the white flag before the end...

No it was the Saturn. The Dreamcast came in the last gen of consoles but it died pretty much before it really began.

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#40 King_Dodongo
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yes i wish the wii was deadnaruto7777
keep wishing, lol