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#1 itsme185
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Ok, so how many 360-pc gamers do we have here?

How many of you like the look of GT5, MGS4, uncharted etc?
But cant justify spending $400 for 3-6 games (which is like the whole ps3 game libary)

So instead just want the ps3 to flop so the game are ported?

Im all for this.

Discuss
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#2 ReverseCycology
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Even if people want the PS3 to flop, its not like its going to do anything. The PS3 is the only one that can make the PS3 flop.

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#3 Pajamasalad
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I hear a horde of cows running in this direction.
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#4 a_chalz
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Ok, so how many 360-pc gamers do we have here?

How many of you like the look of GT5, MGS4, uncharted etc?
But cant justify spending $400 for 3-6 games (which is like the whole ps3 game libary)

So instead just want the ps3 to flop so the game are ported?

Im all for this.

Discuss
itsme185

can't say i don't agree with you man

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#6 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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hell yeah, sony needs to stop pretending they actualy make consoles and just stick with quality TVs and stereos
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#7 elbow2k
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Your logic is flawed.

Having three consoles on the market is good for the industry, it creates competition, and keeps developer/publishers on their heels.

Wanting a console, specially one with such a storied background to flop because you don't get a certain exclusive, is just a bad reason.

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#8 EPaul
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Anyone who says Yes is not a Gamer
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#9 itsme185
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[QUOTE="itsme185"]Ok, so how many 360-pc gamers do we have here?

How many of you like the look of GT5, MGS4, uncharted etc?
But cant justify spending $400 for 3-6 games (which is like the whole ps3 game libary)

So instead just want the ps3 to flop so the game are ported?

Im all for this.

Discuss
a_chalz

can't say i don't agree with you man



Thanks
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#10 linkin_guy109
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reverse you are so right, and i never want a console to flop
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#11 spinecaton
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No, competition is healthy for any business.
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#12 Blue-Sphere
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I would never want a console to flop. A console flopping isn't good for the market, even fanboys have to admit that.
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#13 Eltroz
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Anyone who says Yes is not a GamerEPaul
Why? Sony does not hold the fabric of games together. There is nothing special about Sony. Stop acting like anyone that does not favor Sony is not a true gamer that is just dumb.
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#14 Superstrokey
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why would you want to get rid of competition? It drives down prices and breeds innovatio...

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#15 Eltroz
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why would you want to get rid of competition? It drives down prices and breeds innovatio...

Superstrokey
So a $600 console is driving the prices down? Since that is what Sony launched with.
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#16 jimm895
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THe PS3 is not going anywhere anytime soon, but on the other hand the 360 and M$ is in a very bad situation with the heavy compitition from the Wii and PS3 on the gameing front while there loseing consumer support from there OS market shares.
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#17 itsme185
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[QUOTE="EPaul"]Anyone who says Yes is not a GamerEltroz
Why? Sony does not hold the fabric of games together. There is nothing special about Sony. Stop acting like anyone that does not favor Sony is not a true gamer that is just dumb.



thats not what he means, he means a true gamer wants all games regardless of the system./
But this way you only have to have one system (and atm the 360 is better (hardware wise is diffrent thread) in the game libary)

So a gamer pics up the 360. dosent want the to buy the ps3 just for 5 games as such.

so why not let it flop so we get the best of both worlds.
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[QUOTE="Superstrokey"]

why would you want to get rid of competition? It drives down prices and breeds innovatio...

Eltroz

So a $600 console is driving the prices down? Since that is what Sony launched with.

Do you know why Sony dropped the price by 200 dollars in one year? The previous post explains it quite well.

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#19 V_Isle
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So the exclusive games suck, it's overpriced and tanking in sales, and in general it's not doing good. But at least it's not possible for the PS3 to kill hardcore gaming like Nintendo is trying to do with the Wii. So if there is only one console I want to see disappear, it's the dreck that is the Wii.

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#20 livespawn
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I hear a horde of cows running in this direction.Pajamasalad

lol

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#21 Superstrokey
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[QUOTE="Superstrokey"]

why would you want to get rid of competition? It drives down prices and breeds innovatio...

Eltroz

So a $600 console is driving the prices down? Since that is what Sony launched with.

No but competition from teh 360 and wii drove down teh PS3 price, and as a result we will see a drop in 360 price in teh new year most likely. PS3 was too expensive i give you that for sure 100% but to say that competition isnt a good thing is stupid if nothing else.

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Ok, so how many 360-pc gamers do we have here?

How many of you like the look of GT5, MGS4, uncharted etc?
But cant justify spending $400 for 3-6 games (which is like the whole ps3 game libary)

So instead just want the ps3 to flop so the game are ported?

Im all for this.

Discuss
itsme185

Only fanboys would want a system to flop.

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#23 itsme185
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THe PS3 is not going anywhere anytime soon, but on the other hand the 360 and M$ is in a very bad situation with the heavy compitition from the Wii and PS3 on the gameing front while there loseing consumer support from there OS market shares.jimm895


What are you talking about?

If out of the the 360 and ps3 this gen if one would flop it would be the ps3.

They focused more on bluray player rather thn a game console.

M$ in a bad situation? from what? having the best console out this gen (in terms of power and game libary)

Sure wii has got the best sales, but its a fad (not sure of spelling :S)
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#24 Eltroz
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[QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="Superstrokey"]

why would you want to get rid of competition? It drives down prices and breeds innovatio...

Superstrokey

So a $600 console is driving the prices down? Since that is what Sony launched with.

No but competition from teh 360 and wii drove down teh PS3 price, and as a result we will see a drop in 360 price in teh new year most likely. PS3 was too expensive i give you that for sure 100% but to say that competition isnt a good thing is stupid if nothing else.

Ok true. You are right.
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[QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="EPaul"]Anyone who says Yes is not a Gameritsme185
Why? Sony does not hold the fabric of games together. There is nothing special about Sony. Stop acting like anyone that does not favor Sony is not a true gamer that is just dumb.



thats not what he means, he means a true gamer wants all games regardless of the system./
But this way you only have to have one system (and atm the 360 is better (hardware wise is diffrent thread) in the game libary)

So a gamer pics up the 360. dosent want the to buy the ps3 just for 5 games as such.

so why not let it flop so we get the best of both worlds.

Because eventually there will be games for it that are great and help justify the cost to people who haven't picked one up yet.

A one console world is not one I want to live in, unless it's an open format.

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#26 itsme185
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[QUOTE="itsme185"]Ok, so how many 360-pc gamers do we have here?

How many of you like the look of GT5, MGS4, uncharted etc?
But cant justify spending $400 for 3-6 games (which is like the whole ps3 game libary)

So instead just want the ps3 to flop so the game are ported?

Im all for this.

Discuss
wiretoss

Only fanboys would want a system to flop.



No, a gamer that cant afford all consoles would want a console to flop lolz.
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#27 Superstrokey
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[QUOTE="jimm895"]THe PS3 is not going anywhere anytime soon, but on the other hand the 360 and M$ is in a very bad situation with the heavy compitition from the Wii and PS3 on the gameing front while there loseing consumer support from there OS market shares.itsme185


What are you talking about?

If out of the the 360 and ps3 this gen if one would flop it would be the ps3.

They focused more on bluray player rather thn a game console.

M$ in a bad situation? from what? having the best console out this gen (in terms of power and game libary)

Sure wii has got the best sales, but its a fad (not sure of spelling :S)

Doubt its a fad... being the hottest thing 2 years in a row at christmas time. Given it was released right before xmas so that kinda doesnt count. either way if it was a fad i think we see sales dropping far more but we simply arnt. Time will be the real judge.

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#28 EPaul
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[QUOTE="EPaul"]Anyone who says Yes is not a GamerEltroz
Why? Sony does not hold the fabric of games together. There is nothing special about Sony. Stop acting like anyone that does not favor Sony is not a true gamer that is just dumb.

Dude what's wrong with you? You hate Sony that much? If the PS3 flopped it would be bad for gamers since the would a lack of competition.So there would be less price cuts

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[QUOTE="jimm895"]THe PS3 is not going anywhere anytime soon, but on the other hand the 360 and M$ is in a very bad situation with the heavy compitition from the Wii and PS3 on the gameing front while there loseing consumer support from there OS market shares.itsme185


What are you talking about?

If out of the the 360 and ps3 this gen if one would flop it would be the ps3.

They focused more on bluray player rather thn a game console.

M$ in a bad situation? from what? having the best console out this gen (in terms of power and game libary)

Sure wii has got the best sales, but its a fad (not sure of spelling :S)

The fanboy is strong in this one.

PS3 owners say "Just wait" all the freakin' time for a reason. The library will get a lot better eventually.

The Wii is not a fad. Tell that to the 1.8million people that buy one every month. The Wii is the first machine to REALLY tap into the casual market successfully. It's here to stay, and stay it will.

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#30 livespawn
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i really dont like the ps3 but even though i dont wanna see it flop. if it did MS would get lazy and throw out lack-luster games because it didn't have any competion (not sayin wii isn't but visually it isn't) so ps3 is good for at least giving MS the drive to make there games look better than a ps3 game. or at least try.
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#31 p2rus
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[QUOTE="EPaul"]Anyone who says Yes is not a GamerEltroz
Why? Sony does not hold the fabric of games together. There is nothing special about Sony. Stop acting like anyone that does not favor Sony is not a true gamer that is just dumb.

if you ever played a ps2 ud realize that there WAS something special about sony back then. after that success, id argue that there is something special about sony. or at least there was. a whole bunch.

and its not about favoring sony. its about respect. i resepct 360 and the wii (a little bit more now b/c its selling like crazy)

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#32 Relys
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I want it to flop, so all the ps3 fanboys will go away.

They are so immature.

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#33 Superstrokey
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[QUOTE="Superstrokey"][QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="Superstrokey"]

why would you want to get rid of competition? It drives down prices and breeds innovatio...

Eltroz

So a $600 console is driving the prices down? Since that is what Sony launched with.

No but competition from teh 360 and wii drove down teh PS3 price, and as a result we will see a drop in 360 price in teh new year most likely. PS3 was too expensive i give you that for sure 100% but to say that competition isnt a good thing is stupid if nothing else.

Ok true. You are right.

Honestly i think we both are here, cause your right sony was way out to lunch with its initial price. If other companies had followed suit,ie overbuilding, we may have seen prices go up instead of down like what happened with car prices in the 90s.

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i've never wanted any platform to flop, except maybe the Ngage.
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#35 Superstrokey
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i've never wanted any platform to flop, except maybe the Ngage.clone01

Yeah what the hell ever happened to that? Is it officially dead yet?

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#36 itsme185
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i've never wanted any platform to flop, except maybe the Ngage.clone01


lolz leave the n-gage alone, yeah i brought one.. pretty much brought a new one straight away.

any one see how you had to talk on that thing. it was stupid.
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the only games i want to play on the Ps3 is MGS4 and God of War 3, im not paying $400 to play on game. Dont care about Dude Raider, Ratchet and Flop, Resistance: flop of man, Motoflop, or Final JRPG Girly Man fantasy, Heavenly Flop or Gran Turismo.
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#38 nowhatisthat
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Ok, so how many 360-pc gamers do we have here?

How many of you like the look of GT5, MGS4, uncharted etc?
But cant justify spending $400 for 3-6 games (which is like the whole ps3 game libary)

So instead just want the ps3 to flop so the game are ported?

Im all for this.

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itsme185

If you can't justify your purchase with 3-6 games then what games do you use to justify your purchase of the 360?

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#39 itsme185
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the only game i want to play on the Ps3 is MGS4, im not paying $400 to play on game. Dont care about Dude Raider, Ratchet and Flop, Resistance: flop of man, Motoflop, or Finaly JRPG Girly Man fantasy.kcm_117


My point exactly,

So why not let the ps3 flop so we get the games ported?
sounds good to me.
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i want to be a little successful so ms cant be lazy
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#41 mtron32
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Your logic is flawed.

Having three consoles on the market is good for the industry, it creates competition, and keeps developer/publishers on their heels.

Wanting a console, specially one with such a storied background to flop because you don't get a certain exclusive, is just a bad reason.

elbow2k

How the heck does it create competition with 3 consoles? You can get the same competition with only 2. Wii, and PS3/360 would be prime. Since PS3/360 are so similar in the games they offer, whats the point in having them both? Most of the Sony games i want to play are PS2 games anyhow. As for competition, screw hardware, the competition should be amongst developers. Hardware is only a tool, if companies had a unified tool that was easy to develop for, then developers could focus on making good games.

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the only game i want to play on the Ps3 is MGS4, im not paying $400 to play on game. Dont care about Dude Raider, Ratchet and Flop, Resistance: flop of man, Motoflop, or Finaly JRPG Girly Man fantasy.kcm_117

GT5 has me getting one, that being said im a huge car nut and the GT games are among, if not they best racing game (besides the ferrari f1 game on dreamcast and SMK of course ;) )

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#43 itsme185
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[QUOTE="itsme185"]Ok, so how many 360-pc gamers do we have here?

How many of you like the look of GT5, MGS4, uncharted etc?
But cant justify spending $400 for 3-6 games (which is like the whole ps3 game libary)

So instead just want the ps3 to flop so the game are ported?

Im all for this.

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nowhatisthat

If you can't justify your purchase with 3-6 games then what games do you use to justify your purchase of the 360?



the atleast 20 titles i own.
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#44 jquest123
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I can't take this thread seriously since you spelled seriously wrong.

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#45 mattyomo99
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Anyone who says Yes is not a GamerEPaul

owned

also if you dont think the ps3 is worth it for the best racing series GT
arguably the best stealthseries in MGS
the best console RPG series in FF
and the best sword fighting adventure series in God of War

then you aint a gamer either

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#46 kcm_117
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[QUOTE="kcm_117"]the only game i want to play on the Ps3 is MGS4, im not paying $400 to play on game. Dont care about Dude Raider, Ratchet and Flop, Resistance: flop of man, Motoflop, or Finaly JRPG Girly Man fantasy.itsme185


My point exactly,

So why not let the ps3 flop so we get the games ported?
sounds good to me.

i dont have to wish for the ps3 to flop, its doing just fine flopping by itself:D

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[QUOTE="kcm_117"]the only game i want to play on the Ps3 is MGS4, im not paying $400 to play on game. Dont care about Dude Raider, Ratchet and Flop, Resistance: flop of man, Motoflop, or Finaly JRPG Girly Man fantasy.Superstrokey

GT5 has me getting one, that being said im a huge car nut and the GT games are among, if not they best racing game (besides the ferrari f1 game on dreamcast and SMK of course ;) )

Gt5 will be nice, but im not buying a ps3 to play a racing game when i can just play forza 2 and pgr4. Racing games just aren't console sellers to me, but whatever floats your boat :).

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#48 Superstrokey
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[QUOTE="elbow2k"]

Your logic is flawed.

Having three consoles on the market is good for the industry, it creates competition, and keeps developer/publishers on their heels.

Wanting a console, specially one with such a storied background to flop because you don't get a certain exclusive, is just a bad reason.

mtron32

How the heck does it create competition with 3 consoles? You can get the same competition with only 2. Wii, and PS3/360 would be prime. Since PS3/360 are so similar in the games they offer, whats the point in having them both? Most of the Sony games i want to play are PS2 games anyhow. As for competition, screw hardware, the competition should be amongst developers. Hardware is only a tool, if companies had a unified tool that was easy to develop for, then developers could focus on making good games.

Just wow... seriously reread this and then look up what competition is. Like I understand the point your trying to make but you really didnt make a good arguement for this. Plus if there was only competion on one end of the spectrum the price would never drop on consoles or atleast must slower. Highre prices = lower installed base = crappier games (potentially)

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#49 Eltroz
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[QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="EPaul"]Anyone who says Yes is not a Gamerp2rus

Why? Sony does not hold the fabric of games together. There is nothing special about Sony. Stop acting like anyone that does not favor Sony is not a true gamer that is just dumb.

if you ever played a ps2 ud realize that there WAS something special about sony back then. after that success, id argue that there is something special about sony. or at least there was. a whole bunch.

and its not about favoring sony. its about respect. i resepct 360 and the wii (a little bit more now b/c its selling like crazy)

I owned 2 different PS2s. I am just saying that for someone to say someone is not a true gamer because they want Sony to flop like the TC said is dumb. So only cows are true gamers? The TC just wanted PS3 to flop to play more games so how does that make him not a gamer? I am just saying I hate seeing people say who or who is not a gamer like they are some pro on the subject.
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#50 Gamersince81
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Anyone who says Yes is not a GamerEPaul

Most of these Johnny Come Lately Fanboys arent, or never will be true gamers!!!! Wanting a console is to flop is about the same as wanting someone to stop farting!! For the record i owned over 15 different consoles over 20 years and loved them all. Whoever it be (lemming, hermit, cow, sheep etc).. whoever wants a console to fail isnt a pure gamer at heart NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY!!!