Who has the bigger processor??

Biggest as in physical size?blurb1324

From the information i got, 360 has a better processor.L0n3W01F

The 360 has 3 processors each running at about 1.06GHz to equal 3.2GHz. Its processor is the biggest. If you mean which processor is more powerful without a doubt CELL is the most powerful processor.MGS9150

Nope... that's not the case.  You must have derived those figures from mathmagic land, or possibly your numbers came from the 4th dimension of gaming.
XBOX 360 SPECS
Custom IBM PowerPC-based CPU
•Three symmetrical cores running at 3.2 GHz each
• Two hardware threads per core; six hardware threads total
• VMX-128 vector unit per core; three total
• 128 VMX-128 registers per hardware thread
• 1 MB L2 cache

The 360 has 3 processors each running at about 1.06GHz to equal 3.2GHz. Its processor is the biggest. If you mean which processor is more powerful without a doubt CELL is the most powerful processor.MGS9150

LOL YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING LOL first of all 360 has 3 core running at 3.2 ghz each lol and the most powerful commrcial cpu out fright now if the intel core 2 duo geeze

[QUOTE="MGS9150"]The 360 has 3 processors each running at about 1.06GHz to equal 3.2GHz. Its processor is the biggest. If you mean which processor is more powerful without a doubt CELL is the most powerful processor.Blackfallen

LOL YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING LOL first of all 360 has 3 core running at 3.2 ghz each lol and the most powerful commrcial cpu out fright now if the intel core 2 duo geeze

[QUOTE="Blackfallen"]

[QUOTE="MGS9150"]The 360 has 3 processors each running at about 1.06GHz to equal 3.2GHz. Its processor is the biggest. If you mean which processor is more powerful without a doubt CELL is the most powerful processor.MGS9150

LOL YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING LOL first of all 360 has 3 core running at 3.2 ghz each lol and the most powerful commrcial cpu out fright now if the intel core 2 duo geeze

And there are processors in PCs RIGHT NOW that dwarf the cell.  Do you understand the 1st thing about the technology you're trying to discuss?  You should spend some time researching before you run your mouth. 

[QUOTE="L0n3W01F"]From the information i got, 360 has a better processor.MGS9150

[QUOTE="L0n3W01F"]From the information i got, 360 has a better processor.MGS9150

the 360 has 3 cores running at 3.2 ghz EACH they dont add up to 3.2 ghz the PS3 has 1 core running at 3.2 ghz with 7 SPEs the 360 has MORE processing power http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/617/617951p1.htmlDanielr2

The cell is better than the 360 processor if thats what your askingblacktorn

[QUOTE="blacktorn"]The cell is better than the 360 processor if thats what your askingdonalbane

If you are referring to the fact that the PS3's cell can float more vertices (basically render more polygons) then I know this already. But guess what? Games aren't just vertices... they require a lot of general processes too. Basically, the Cell could blow it's load rendering some gorgeous CGI looking models, but the general processing prower to animate it, provide physics, provide audio, give it robust AI, and all of the thousands of other things that go into gaming are inferior on the PS3 because they prioritized the ability to float the most verts. The cell is like a hot chick with a terrible personality in this respect. That's why you see double the frame rate in 360 versions of cross platform titles like COD3.

From Carmack's interview:

"What's going to matter is what you end up delivering in the games.  I do think Sony made a less optimal descision than Microsoft from the perspective of the game developer." 

Did you watch this before you told me I'd 'eat my words?'  He was complaining about the cell in that video.  You seem to have a tough time getting any concrete data on the subject, and you don't appear understand the technology you're discussing.  Thanks for proving my point with your link.   

[QUOTE="Blackfallen"]

[QUOTE="MGS9150"]The 360 has 3 processors each running at about 1.06GHz to equal 3.2GHz. Its processor is the biggest. If you mean which processor is more powerful without a doubt CELL is the most powerful processor.MGS9150

LOL YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING LOL first of all 360 has 3 core running at 3.2 ghz each lol and the most powerful commrcial cpu out fright now if the intel core 2 duo geeze

what the military should do is stop spending money on the cell and use that money to get our boys in Iraq some freaking armor!

[QUOTE="MGS9150"][QUOTE="Blackfallen"]

[QUOTE="MGS9150"]The 360 has 3 processors each running at about 1.06GHz to equal 3.2GHz. Its processor is the biggest. If you mean which processor is more powerful without a doubt CELL is the most powerful processor.LEGEND_C4A

LOL YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING LOL first of all 360 has 3 core running at 3.2 ghz each lol and the most powerful commrcial cpu out fright now if the intel core 2 duo geeze

what the military should do is stop spending money on the cell and use that money to get our boys in Iraq some freaking armor!

MGS9150 ur just a ps3 fanboy read this link http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/617/617951p1.htmlDanielr2

[QUOTE="Danielr2"]MGS9150 ur just a ps3 fanboy read this link http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/617/617951p1.htmltumle

Why do you think most PS3 games are 720p? They couldn't render them in 1080p AND give them robust AI, physics, sound, etc.donalbane

[QUOTE="donalbane"]Why do you think most PS3 games are 720p? They couldn't render them in 1080p AND give them robust AI, physics, sound, etc.jwat4

[QUOTE="Blackfallen"]

[QUOTE="MGS9150"]The 360 has 3 processors each running at about 1.06GHz to equal 3.2GHz. Its processor is the biggest. If you mean which processor is more powerful without a doubt CELL is the most powerful processor.MGS9150

LOL YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING LOL first of all 360 has 3 core running at 3.2 ghz each lol and the most powerful commrcial cpu out fright now if the intel core 2 duo geeze

loool  http://www.intel.com/research/platform/terascale/teraflops.htm?iid=homepage+80core

80 core its comining

Intel’s first silicon tera-scale research prototype. It is the first programmable chip to deliver more than one trillion floating point operations per second (1 Teraflops) of performance

sony has ALOT of catching up to do

MGS9150 ur just a ps3 fanboy read this link http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/617/617951p1.htmlDanielr2

[QUOTE="MGS9150"][QUOTE="Blackfallen"]

[QUOTE="MGS9150"]The 360 has 3 processors each running at about 1.06GHz to equal 3.2GHz. Its processor is the biggest. If you mean which processor is more powerful without a doubt CELL is the most powerful processor.fahadq8

LOL YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING LOL first of all 360 has 3 core running at 3.2 ghz each lol and the most powerful commrcial cpu out fright now if the intel core 2 duo geeze

loool http://www.intel.com/research/platform/terascale/teraflops.htm?iid=homepage+80core

80 core its comining

Intel’s first silicon tera-scale research prototype. It is the first programmable chip to deliver more than one trillion floating point operations per second (1 Teraflops) of performance

sony has ALOT of catching up to do

[QUOTE="fahadq8"][QUOTE="MGS9150"][QUOTE="Blackfallen"]

[QUOTE="MGS9150"]The 360 has 3 processors each running at about 1.06GHz to equal 3.2GHz. Its processor is the biggest. If you mean which processor is more powerful without a doubt CELL is the most powerful processor.MGS9150

LOL YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING LOL first of all 360 has 3 core running at 3.2 ghz each lol and the most powerful commrcial cpu out fright now if the intel core 2 duo geeze

loool http://www.intel.com/research/platform/terascale/teraflops.htm?iid=homepage+80core

80 core its comining

Intel’s first silicon tera-scale research prototype. It is the first programmable chip to deliver more than one trillion floating point operations per second (1 Teraflops) of performance

sony has ALOT of catching up to do

[QUOTE="MGS9150"][QUOTE="fahadq8"][QUOTE="MGS9150"][QUOTE="Blackfallen"]

[QUOTE="MGS9150"]The 360 has 3 processors each running at about 1.06GHz to equal 3.2GHz. Its processor is the biggest. If you mean which processor is more powerful without a doubt CELL is the most powerful processor.donalbane

LOL YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING LOL first of all 360 has 3 core running at 3.2 ghz each lol and the most powerful commrcial cpu out fright now if the intel core 2 duo geeze

loool http://www.intel.com/research/platform/terascale/teraflops.htm?iid=homepage+80core

80 core its comining

Intel’s first silicon tera-scale research prototype. It is the first programmable chip to deliver more than one trillion floating point operations per second (1 Teraflops) of performance

sony has ALOT of catching up to do

?? Veron_Davis

[QUOTE="MGS9150"][QUOTE="Blackfallen"]

[QUOTE="MGS9150"]The 360 has 3 processors each running at about 1.06GHz to equal 3.2GHz. Its processor is the biggest. If you mean which processor is more powerful without a doubt CELL is the most powerful processor.donalbane

LOL YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING LOL first of all 360 has 3 core running at 3.2 ghz each lol and the most powerful commrcial cpu out fright now if the intel core 2 duo geeze

And there are processors in PCs RIGHT NOW that dwarf the cell.  Do you understand the 1st thing about the technology you're trying to discuss?  You should spend some time researching before you run your mouth. 

This is what it break down too.

Xobx 360- More generalized. Good processor, decent floating point capability, easier to code for given performance.

Cell- Specialized processor. Crunches numbers like no tommorow. The time needed to code vs performance is much lower. Kind of proved it strength when it rendered a picture like 60x faster then a pentium. I'm looking for that link right now.


Basically, the Cell is more powerful, but only if you put the time, money and effort into it.

Xenon s easier to code, and is weaker.






KoreanX

What does Dot product performance mean?  It seams the PS3 does 22.4 billion while the 360 only does 9.6 billion.  Thats 2.2 times more for the PS3.  The PS3 gets 218 Gflops to the 360's 115 Gflops.  But since the PS3 mainly runs on 6 and rarely runs on 8.  It runs 153.6 Gflops which is still stronger then the 360's.  Then it goes on to mention that the PS3 comfortably comes out on top in terms of overall floating point capability.  But the issues is the learning curve to harness the power of the PS3.  Then they go on more about how the PS3 is harder to program for with the fact it has one power pc while the 360 has three power pc.  Which means the 360 can take on similiar tasks as the PS3 with more piping for the information to be shared down three routes instead of one.  Personally, I think any great programmer will work around this for the PS3.  And as nice as it sounds to have three power pc's it is still restricted to 512 mb of memory as well as the PS3 is. 

Another advantage from that story for the PS3.

"While the 360 CPU may be able to handle 6 processor threads simultaneously it still only has 3 physical CPU cores so every 2 threads must share processing power on a single core. Whereas with the PS3, it has 1 PPE and 6 SPE for games, which are like extra physical processors). If each of the PS3’s 6 SPE used for games are working on a specific task such as collision, cloth physics, animation, water surface simulation or particles, they wouldn’t need to worry about processing power being taken away from another part of the game because the SPE don’t share processing power."

Another point for the PS3 from that article.

"The only cause for concern would be the 512KB L2 cache being shared by 7 simultaneous running SPE and a PPE, but that’s what developers are for; they work around things like this. In practice, this should allow PS3 games to potentially have more things going on at once than 360 games. Ignoring the difficulties of programming for the PS3 CPU, it should be known that the PS3’s CPU is very good when it comes to vertex-related operations because the PS3’s CPU handles graphics code better than the 360’s CPU. It is also possible that through good parallelism of physics code on the SPE that physics code could also run better on the PS3 CPU due to the concurrency advantage."

Some advatange for the 360 on AI

"The 360 CPU however, due to its 3 symmetric General Purpose Cores, is not only much easier to program for than the cell, but having 3 PPE capable of handling things such as AI also means the 360’s CPU will be the better of the 2 CPUs when it comes to AI code. Either way we can look forward to great things from both CPUs in the future."

But the PS3 can work around this so who cares. 

The PS3 with 256 memory and 256 graphics vs 360's 512 overall use.  Pro's to 360, but how far of a pro is this really?  So a game on the 360 at one point in time could show us 300 to 512 worth of graphics.  But then no memory is being used so 512 of total graphics is a lie.  But what if a game is throwing at you 350 mb of graphics and 162 mb of memory.  Could be cool but that seams limiting on the AI and game loading so really only a slight benefit at certain points of game play.

Blu-ray seams to allow for games on the PS3 to hold 5 times the content of the standard dvd on the 360.  Thats of course if the 360 game has 10 gigs of information but I really thing they max at 5, which would mean that the PS3 game is capable of 10 times the content.  Insane advantage to PS3 plus the future potential to graphics. 

The PS3 has 1 Main and 8SPEs, this allows the PS3 to decode a thread and run it on one of the 6-7 SPEs which gets used, this means that it does not run parallel threads, but consequtive threads, however because there are 6 SPEs the PS3 can handle single threads so fast that it is just like running a parallel task.

The 360 on the other hand has 3 Cores each running at 3.2Ghz, but if u add up the three Cores and add them together it is only 3.2Ghz, this is because it is shared between the three, giving each Core the ability to access the amount. The 360 CAN parallel task which means that 3 things can be done in 1 go.

The PS3 is technically more powerful but because of its strange architecture it will take years to unlock. The 360 on the other hand is far more simple, allowing each of the three cores to decode a thread itself.

Sorry about my spelling, im a Computer Programmer from Dubai (I got a 6 day stay at the burj of dubai :D)

[QUOTE="LEGEND_C4A"][QUOTE="MGS9150"][QUOTE="Blackfallen"]

[QUOTE="MGS9150"]The 360 has 3 processors each running at about 1.06GHz to equal 3.2GHz. Its processor is the biggest. If you mean which processor is more powerful without a doubt CELL is the most powerful processor.donalbane

LOL YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING LOL first of all 360 has 3 core running at 3.2 ghz each lol and the most powerful commrcial cpu out fright now if the intel core 2 duo geeze

what the military should do is stop spending money on the cell and use that money to get our boys in Iraq some freaking armor!

holy cow! is this real or photoshop?

the 360 has 3 cores running at 3.2 ghz EACH they dont add up to 3.2 ghz the PS3 has 1 core running at 3.2 ghz with 7 SPEs the 360 has MORE processing power http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/617/617951p1.htmlDanielr2