Who here actually wants PC gaming dead and why?

Yeah, yeah, I know "Why do you have to open a pandora's box again when we have peace at last?". System Wars is currently pretty boring, that's why.

So anyway, I (and many of us PC gamers) have been reading "facts" that PC gaming is dying and/or it is already dead.

One thing I couldn't find in those posts was a clarification, a proper reason.

So my question is, who actually wants PC gaming dead and - why?

I'd imagine Atari, Commodore, Coleco, etc.

The competition from PC gaming was a factor in the console market crash back in the 1980s. Those cats don't forget either, they've been biding their time....

Fanboys have a tendency to hate anything that isn't what they are fanboys of.

And there are a lot more console fanboys on this forum than hermits.

PC gaming cant and wont die.

Just look at titles comming it will tell you everything (Spore,Starcraft 2,Lich King,..)

And PC is what drives industry and technology because of competitive nature if PC dies than consoles die 2 or they will exist but advance slowly.

Some fanboys that say otherwise are just kids and they dont know enough about anything,so just ignore them

I want PC gaming dead because......

....because.....

hmmm....couldn't find a reason.

It's just not working out for the PC. "Bu bu bu but teh 3 millionz copies sold of Crysizz!" I like this one.

They're just dumb and they don't realize how awfuly it would hurt console gaming tooAdrianWerner

It's just not working out for the PC. "Bu bu bu but teh 3 millionz copies sold of Crysizz!" I like this one.

XenogearsMaster

Thats one thing everyone says it is declining or dying cannot do.

It's just not working out for the PC. "Bu bu bu but teh 3 millionz copies sold of Crysizz!" I like this one.

XenogearsMaster

So you want it to die because....?

I certianly don't want PC gaming to die

I play console games for ease of use, but PC games are certainly deeper, it doesn't make them better, it just caters to a diffrent crowd, with more spare time

I also get a little tired of thread where someone is saying PC gaming is better or a certian PC games graphics are better than consoles, PC gaming had been ahead of console gaming for over 20 years, and I don't see that changing, the only real issue with PC gaming is Piracy, it really does hurt the developers alot, and with an open platform like the PC its much harder to control

PC Gaming is still alive?Khansoul

It's only the most profitable and most popular platform in the world.

It's just not working out for the PC. "Bu bu bu but teh 3 millionz copies sold of Crysizz!" I like this one.

XenogearsMaster

Right. You didn't answer to a topic question.

IMO, PC gaming will never die....mustaf_nur89

*DING*

I think we have a winner

They want it to die so they can claim that their console purchase was justified and to claim superior graphics ownage for their respective consoles.hamidious

I really dont want pc gaming to die, but I would like for it to be hurt , even more then it already is...I get tired of pc gamers trying to make their opinions FACT. Pushing your opinions on people dont make them fact. K/M isnt any better then gamepad. PC graphics are not any better then console ..."ie"..Crysis....Most people think it looks great from the screen shots, but they dont realize 99% of the pc population cant run it on those settings..

So in the end...I really wish the best and the worst for PC gaming...

I enjoyed this post because:

I get tired of pc gamers trying to make their opinions FACT. Pushing your opinions on people dont make them fact.FunkyHeadHunter

Which is fine. But then we had:

PC graphics are not any better then console ..."ie"..Crysis....FunkyHeadHunter

Most people think it looks great from the screen shots, but they dont realize 99% of the pc population cant run it on those settings..FunkyHeadHunter

I'm sorry, had you said something about art style, I could understand how Crysis might not be impressive in your opinion.

But what you wrote was not only contradictory (you hate people pushing their opinions as fact but then try the whopper that 99% of people can't run Crysis to a higher visual quality than a console), it was wrong.

And I don't need to push my opinion on you to prove that, I can just tell you to look up GPU sales.

I really dont want pc gaming to die, but I would like for it to be hurt , even more then it already is...I get tired of pc gamers trying to make their opinions FACT. Pushing your opinions on people dont make them fact. K/M isnt any better then gamepad. PC graphics are not any better then console ..."ie"..Crysis....Most people think it looks great from the screen shots, but they dont realize 99% of the pc population cant run it on those settings..

So in the end...I really wish the best and the worst for PC gaming...

FunkyHeadHunter

So basically you want PC gaming to be hurt because of... fanboys?

PC gaming cant and wont die.

Just look at titles comming it will tell you everything (Spore,Starcraft 2,Lich King,..)

And PC is what drives industry and technology because of competitive nature if PC dies than consoles die 2 or they will exist but advance slowly.

Some fanboys that say otherwise are just kids and they dont know enough about anything,so just ignore them

_rpg_FAN

Completely accurate & true.

[QUOTE="_rpg_FAN"]

PC gaming cant and wont die.

Just look at titles comming it will tell you everything (Spore,Starcraft 2,Lich King,..)

And PC is what drives industry and technology because of competitive nature if PC dies than consoles die 2 or they will exist but advance slowly.

Some fanboys that say otherwise are just kids and they dont know enough about anything,so just ignore them

Veterngamer

Completely accurate & true.

Its true to a degree, many of the big hardware companies (NVIDIA, ATI, Intel) have their bread and butter revenue in PC gaming. It's loss wouldn't destroy consoles, but it'd certainly shake things up when the next generation rocked around.

I really dont want pc gaming to die, but I would like for it to be hurt , even more then it already is...I get tired of pc gamers trying to make their opinions FACT. Pushing your opinions on people dont make them fact. K/M isnt any better then gamepad. PC graphics are not any better then console ..."ie"..Crysis....Most people think it looks great from the screen shots, but they dont realize 99% of the pc population cant run it on those settings..

So in the end...I really wish the best and the worst for PC gaming...

FunkyHeadHunter

Yeah.... Gears of War doesn't have good graphics either, because some people don't have 360's and therefore cannot run the game.

Does this make sense to you?

I really dont want pc gaming to die, but I would like for it to be hurt , even more then it already is...I get tired of pc gamers trying to make their opinions FACT. Pushing your opinions on people dont make them fact. K/M isnt any better then gamepad. PC graphics are not any better then console ..."ie"..Crysis....Most people think it looks great from the screen shots, but they dont realize 99% of the pc population cant run it on those settings..

So in the end...I really wish the best and the worst for PC gaming...

FunkyHeadHunter

Grow up. :roll:

[QUOTE="Veterngamer"][QUOTE="_rpg_FAN"]

PC gaming cant and wont die.

Just look at titles comming it will tell you everything (Spore,Starcraft 2,Lich King,..)

And PC is what drives industry and technology because of competitive nature if PC dies than consoles die 2 or they will exist but advance slowly.

Some fanboys that say otherwise are just kids and they dont know enough about anything,so just ignore them

Danm_999

Completely accurate & true.

Its true to a degree, many of the big hardware companies (NVIDIA, ATI, Intel) have their bread and butter revenue in PC gaming. It's loss wouldn't destroy consoles, but it'd certainly shake things up when the next generation rocked around.

Did you miss the part where he says "they will exist but advance slowly"..... what he says is COMPLETELY true.... if PC gaming died, it would lead to 1 of 2 scenarios... either Consoles would die too or, they'd continue, but advance at a very slow rate.

[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Veterngamer"][QUOTE="_rpg_FAN"]

PC gaming cant and wont die.

Just look at titles comming it will tell you everything (Spore,Starcraft 2,Lich King,..)

And PC is what drives industry and technology because of competitive nature if PC dies than consoles die 2 or they will exist but advance slowly.

Some fanboys that say otherwise are just kids and they dont know enough about anything,so just ignore them

Veterngamer

Completely accurate & true.

Its true to a degree, many of the big hardware companies (NVIDIA, ATI, Intel) have their bread and butter revenue in PC gaming. It's loss wouldn't destroy consoles, but it'd certainly shake things up when the next generation rocked around.

Did you miss the part where he says "they will exist but advance slowly"..... what he says is COMPLETELY true.... if PC gaming died, it would lead to 1 of 2 scenarios... either Consoles would die too or, they'd continue, but advance at a very slow rate.

Yeah I was agreeing with his second scenario.

I really dont want pc gaming to die, but I would like for it to be hurt , even more then it already is...I get tired of pc gamers trying to make their opinions FACT. Pushing your opinions on people dont make them fact. K/M isnt any better then gamepad. PC graphics are not any better then console ..."ie"..Crysis....Most people think it looks great from the screen shots, but they dont realize 99% of the pc population cant run it on those settings..

So in the end...I really wish the best and the worst for PC gaming...

FunkyHeadHunter

Wow, just wow.

[QUOTE="FunkyHeadHunter"]

I really dont want pc gaming to die, but I would like for it to be hurt , even more then it already is...I get tired of pc gamers trying to make their opinions FACT. Pushing your opinions on people dont make them fact. K/M isnt any better then gamepad. PC graphics are not any better then console ..."ie"..Crysis....Most people think it looks great from the screen shots, but they dont realize 99% of the pc population cant run it on those settings..

So in the end...I really wish the best and the worst for PC gaming...

Veterngamer

Yeah.... Gears of War doesn't have good graphics either, because some people don't have 360's and therefore cannot run the game.

Does this make sense to you?

BUT if you had a 360 it would run every game the same as every other 360. Right? I bet i couldnt even run Crysis on my pc and im sure if I could it would look like n64 graphics. So why make a game most people cant run in its highest settings? Wasted time for the developers as far as im concerned.

[QUOTE="FunkyHeadHunter"]

I really dont want pc gaming to die, but I would like for it to be hurt , even more then it already is...I get tired of pc gamers trying to make their opinions FACT. Pushing your opinions on people dont make them fact. K/M isnt any better then gamepad. PC graphics are not any better then console ..."ie"..Crysis....Most people think it looks great from the screen shots, but they dont realize 99% of the pc population cant run it on those settings..

So in the end...I really wish the best and the worst for PC gaming...

VoodooGamer

Grow up. :roll:

So because I express an "opinion" I need to grow up?...Kind of defeats the purpose of thinking for yourself ..RIGHT?

[QUOTE="Veterngamer"][QUOTE="FunkyHeadHunter"]

I really dont want pc gaming to die, but I would like for it to be hurt , even more then it already is...I get tired of pc gamers trying to make their opinions FACT. Pushing your opinions on people dont make them fact. K/M isnt any better then gamepad. PC graphics are not any better then console ..."ie"..Crysis....Most people think it looks great from the screen shots, but they dont realize 99% of the pc population cant run it on those settings..

So in the end...I really wish the best and the worst for PC gaming...

FunkyHeadHunter

Yeah.... Gears of War doesn't have good graphics either, because some people don't have 360's and therefore cannot run the game.

Does this make sense to you?

BUT if you had a 360 it would run every game the same as every other 360. Right?

Err, no. Depends on whether or not you have a HDTV, or whether or not you've got a Core or Premium version.

I bet i couldnt even run Crysis on my pc and im sure if I could it would look like n64 graphics.FunkyHeadHunter

You don't need to run the game on its highest settings to have it look better than all console games.

[QUOTE="VoodooGamer"][QUOTE="FunkyHeadHunter"]

I really dont want pc gaming to die, but I would like for it to be hurt , even more then it already is...I get tired of pc gamers trying to make their opinions FACT. Pushing your opinions on people dont make them fact. K/M isnt any better then gamepad. PC graphics are not any better then console ..."ie"..Crysis....Most people think it looks great from the screen shots, but they dont realize 99% of the pc population cant run it on those settings..

So in the end...I really wish the best and the worst for PC gaming...

FunkyHeadHunter

Grow up. :roll:

So because I express an "opinion" I need to grow up?...Kind of defeats the purpose of thinking for yourself ..RIGHT?

You didn't express an opinion, you spewed a load of crap, specifically 99% of all people who own Crysis can't run it to a level that looks better than any console game.

If you have trouble understanding why that isn't an opinion, your a lost cause.

BUT if you had a 360 it would run every game the same as every other 360. Right? I bet i couldnt even run Crysis on my pc and im sure if I could it would look like n64 graphics. So why make a game most people cant run in its highest settings? Wasted time for the developers as far as im concerned.

FunkyHeadHunter

I dont you have even realised how games like Crysis are responisble for seeing the technicalities of our games pushed fowards, and how a game like Crysis will have an extremely long shelf life, like its sucessor Far Cry (which has sold over 4 million copies) and Doom 3 (also over 4 million), which pushed technical boundaries for their times.

Now also factor in that Crysis sold 1 million in its first two months, and then look at Nvidias DX10 compatible 'gaming card' sales, and you should come to a conclusion that people out there, bought Crysis witht the knowlege of how system intensive such a technically progressive game is.

No I just want the hermits to continue suffering due to their precious PC exclusives being put on consoles. Now I don't have to spend $1000 just to play Far Cry 2.CB4McGusto

Which is why consoles have overwhelmingly lost their exclusives to the PC this generation, while the PC still has the largest number of exclusives.

But hey, at least your price for a PC was reasonable.

No I just want the hermits to continue suffering due to their precious PC exclusives being put on consoles. Now I don't have to spend $1000 just to play Far Cry 2.CB4McGusto

They are reaping the benefits while you act ignorant.

BUT if you had a 360 it would run every game the same as every other 360. Right? I bet i couldnt even run Crysis on my pc and im sure if I could it would look like n64 graphics. So why make a game most people cant run in its highest settings? Wasted time for the developers as far as im concerned.FunkyHeadHunter

You are so missing a point about PC gaming though.

I don't see pushing technology as being wasted time at all, on the contrary it will appeal to a certain audience. Yes, every 360 may be designed to run a game the same as another 360, but where's the fun in that? :( :(

I like to build my machines, I like upgrade them myself -- the customization, the choices (including choosing to not run bleeding edge games at max settings and upgrade) and options that are available, I like that technology isn't restricted to "console-length" cycles, I like to see what my machine can do after it's been upgraded.

It's just another fun dimension of gaming IMO, and of course it can be your opinion, which is perfectly fine, that none of the above sounds like fun.

In addition, it can lead to PC gaming being more expensive and hardcore gaming on the platform being more niche, while consoles are more mass market and accessible to the mainstream gamer. Regardless of that, as long as the games are there for the PC, that's absolutely fine with me --- even preferable to be honest :D

[QUOTE="FunkyHeadHunter"]BUT if you had a 360 it would run every game the same as every other 360. Right? I bet i couldnt even run Crysis on my pc and im sure if I could it would look like n64 graphics. So why make a game most people cant run in its highest settings? Wasted time for the developers as far as im concerned.Nitrous2O

You are so missing a point about PC gaming though.

I don't see pushing technology as being wasted time at all, on the contrary it will appeal to a certain audience. Yes, every 360 may be designed to run a game the same as another 360, but where's the fun in that? :( :(

I like to build my machines, I like upgrade them myself -- the customization, the choices (including choosing to not run bleeding edge games at max settings and upgrade) and options that are available, I like that technology isn't restricted to "console-length" cycles, I like to see what my machine can do after it's been upgraded.

It's just another fun dimension of gaming IMO, and of course it can be your opinion, which is perfectly fine, that none of the above sounds like fun.

In addition, it can lead to PC gaming being more expensive and hardcore gaming on the platform being more niche, while consoles are more mass market and accessible to the mainstream gamer. Regardless of that, as long as the games are there for the PC, that's absolutely fine with me --- even preferable to be honest :D

QFT. I really like to build my own PCs, when they are custom made they feel like they are unique and not like consoles which are just boring copies of each other. It's essentially the same thing as with people who like to mod cars/bikes etc, they feel like your own when you've built/customized them yourself.

And; if PC gaming ever dies it will seriously hurt the industry, consoles and GAMES. And it's really really doubtful that it will ever die, since even if the mainstream commercial side of it would die, there will still be indie/freeware developers around as long as the internet exists. PC gaming is forever.

No I just want the hermits to continue suffering due to their precious PC exclusives being put on consoles. Now I don't have to spend $1000 just to play Far Cry 2.CB4McGusto

You'd have to be an utter moron to spend that much money for one game anyways. ;)