Who is the most overrated figurehead in the gaming industry?

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#1 jhcho2
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What say you guys?

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#2 x8VXU6
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John Carmack cuz the rest of them kicks ass

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#3 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Everyone one those has contributed to gaming in a very significant way (Mityamoto, Carmack), or at least created an exceptionally good game(s) (Kojima, Bleszinsky).

So none of them is overrated.

My pick would be Peter Molyneux.

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#4 Snugenz
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System Wars, not Figurehead Wars ... just saying. :P

Cliffy.B gets nothing but hate so i dont see how he's "overrated". So if i had to pick i'd go with Hideo Kojima, he makes fantastic games alright, but he's treated like a messiah by the fanboys and his games arent as good (best gamez evar !!) as people would have you believe so he'd have to be the most "overrated".

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#5 Ravensmash
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I don't think any of them are overrated...they've all left a legacy in the games industry.
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#6 RadecSupreme
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Peter Molyneux.

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#7 ohthemanatee
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i'm going with Kojima and Cliff Bleszinsky. Their games are awesome (well, i'm not a kojima fan, but a lof of people are), but the impact by both Kojima and Bleszinsky has been minor in comparison to Carmack, Myamoto and even Peter Molyneux (he pretty much created the God games)
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Peter Molyneux.

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Peter Molyneux created a sub-genre, more then I can say for Kojima and Cliff Bleszinsky
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#9 Nintendo_Ownes7
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Peter Molyneux.

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He is great and made some great games but he tends to overhype his games and promise things that he can't keep.

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Will Wright. Interesting ideas, but poor execution.

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Peter Molyneux.

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He isn't overrated, everyone hates the guy. He is the only one that thinks highly of himself. I have to go with ol' Gabe Newell.

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#12 RadecSupreme
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[QUOTE="RadecSupreme"]

Peter Molyneux.

ohthemanatee

Peter Molyneux created a sub-genre, more then I can say for Kojima and Cliff Bleszinsky

Not really, Kojima and the Metal Gear series seems to be more appreciated and more of a success in the gaming community.

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#13 FerdMertz
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I not positive I'll spell his name properly but I'd say Peter Molyneux. I thought both Fable games were extremely overrated. Hideo Kojima is good at making games but needs to leave the story, editing and dialogue to someone else.
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#14 Dead-Memories
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I not positive I'll spell his name properly but I'd say Peter Molyneux. I thought both Fable games were extremely overrated. Hideo Kojima is good at making games but needs to leave the story, editing and dialogue to someone else.FerdMertz
that's the only thing he was ever good at lol
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#15 ohthemanatee
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[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"][QUOTE="RadecSupreme"]

Peter Molyneux.

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Peter Molyneux created a sub-genre, more then I can say for Kojima and Cliff Bleszinsky

Not really, Kojima and the Metal Gear series seems to be more appreciated and more of a success in the gaming community.

how is that related to what I said? Kojima's games are sucessfull be he never created anything new. The stealth genre already existed before kojima

Molyneux created the god games. and He still creates great games

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lol people who started gaming on the xbox picking peter. His one of the all time greats, he made some abolute classics before fable, which is a good game in itself

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#17 ohthemanatee
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lol people who started gaming on the xbox picking peter. His one of the all time greats, he made some abolute classics before fable, which is a good game in itself

segaempire

you don't even need to back to the classics, you could just look at The movies and Black and White. There really isn't anything quite like those games

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#18 Zero5000X
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Itagaki
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#19 cametall
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Cliff by far.
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#20 lucky_star
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What greatness has carmack done lately?

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#21 Ravensmash
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What greatness has carmack done lately?

lucky_star
The Rage engine/megatexturing, etc. Why the strong dislike for him? Who cares what someones done recently, it doesn't change their previous achievements....
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#22 StrifeXIII
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I would say Miyamoto.. He did do some good things in the past.. but now, he is not as good.
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#23 Ravensmash
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I would say Miyamoto.. He did do some good things in the past.. but now, he is not as good.StrifeXIII
Dude....SMG2?!
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#24 StrifeXIII
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[QUOTE="StrifeXIII"]I would say Miyamoto.. He did do some good things in the past.. but now, he is not as good.Ravensmash
Dude....SMG2?!

It is amazing and all, but it is not as good as smb3 imo :)
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[QUOTE="lucky_star"]

What greatness has carmack done lately?

Ravensmash

The Rage engine/megatexturing, etc. Why the strong dislike for him? Who cares what someones done recently, it doesn't change their previous achievements....

Since the IW 4.0 engine (Game engine for Infinity Ward) is based an in 'unspecified ID tech engine' which Carmack developed... I would say thats what he has done lately. The guy not only drives innovation in game engines, hes also a rocket scientist... so you shouldn't hate on him for working slow.

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#26 AfterBurnerZ
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Thread fails because none of these guys are figureheads. A figurehead is just there and has no say over what goes on. That is none of them.

And none of them are overrated. Just because you don't like something someone developed doesn't mean anything. Get over yourself.

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#27 funsohng
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="StrifeXIII"]I would say Miyamoto.. He did do some good things in the past.. but now, he is not as good.StrifeXIII
Dude....SMG2?!

It is amazing and all, but it is not as good as smb3 imo :)

yeah but it's still amazing you know anyways, I would pick David Jaffe (mostly because GoW2 was so much better than GoW1, and he hasn't done anything recently since I don't think the new TM is not by him). Kojima can't get the story right, but at least he does make good games. btw, MajorGamer531, IW 4.0 engine is heavily modified Quake 3 engine. Quake 3 engine is still used widely actually. It's just heavily modified. That's how versatile it is, and that alone make John Carmack genius.
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Peter Molyneaux

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Peter Molyneaux

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not even close
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#31 DarkLink77
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Kojima.

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#32 C-Lee
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Hideo Kojima by far.
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Kojima at least Miyamoto has innovated franchise and made new one. Kojima is just known for MGS.

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#34 tomarlyn
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East: Kojima West: Cliffy B
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Peter Molyneux.

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I agree with this :)
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the hardcore gamer.

their smug, think their owed something, have a vastly inflated self belief in their own opinions and think any game with a manual thinner than a dolphin sandwich is 'dumbed down'

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#37 cobrax25
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John Carmack cuz the rest of them kicks ass

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yes, because the guy that created first person shooters and whose code forms the basis for all modern game engines has contributed nothing to this industry.

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The head of Activision should probably keep his mouth shut because any time he opens it, garbage spews out.
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#39 Sp4rtan_3
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Cliffy B, and David Jaffe
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#40 Diviniuz
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Peter Molyneux.

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This, I actually like all the people on the poll!
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#41 BigBoss154
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Kojima at least Miyamoto has innovated franchise and made new one. Kojima is just known for MGS.

chocolate1325

And Zone Of The Enders.

And Snatcher.

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#42 samuraiguns
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Creative strategist; Fourzerotwo; Robert Bowling...

Even Peter has done great stuff.

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#43 Elian2530
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Peter M. Overrated or hated. Whatever I dont care. To me, he is both.
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#44 Elian2530
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[QUOTE="chocolate1325"]

Kojima at least Miyamoto has innovated franchise and made new one. Kojima is just known for MGS.

BigBoss154

And Zone Of The Enders.

And Snatcher.

Just known for MGS? You talk like you've done amazing things in your life Chocolate1325...
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#45 deactivated-5c8e4e07d5510
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Why isn't Peter Molyneux on the poll?
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#46 enterawesome
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Peter Molyneux. I really hate that guy, he insults his own games and the people he was supposed to lead in making it, and then goes off and says "But the next game will be WAAAAY better!"
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#47 goblaa
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Carmack. The guy is a great programmer, but he doesn't have a creative bone in his whole body.

But outside that list, it's totally Itagaki. This guy loves his crappy games.

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Kaz H. Because he's a tool.

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#49 Microsoft1234
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probably cliffy B, he delivered a great game in gears 1 but failed miserably with the sequel and from watching him actually play gears, he's terrible. no wonder gears 2 takes less skill, catering to bks like clif.