who played copycat this generation?

[QUOTE="IDoItLikeAboss"][QUOTE="Baxhand"]

Microsoft has 3 exclusives coming out this holiday season that Sony drools over because of projected the sales numbers.

Also 3rd party gamessale more on the 360. Don't they?

There are games on the 360?

XBLA has some good games right now with themulti-plats. Give em a try. You might like them?

Baxhand

Dude people will be playing Gears 3 after Uncharted 3 has faded off into the sunset.

That poor guys version knocked out the champ 10 years ago ? Right?

[QUOTE="ChrisSpartan117"]

Capcom copying EA Sports by forcing you to buy roster updates to a previous game(SF4, MVC3)at $40. That stings pretty bad doesn't it.

Hey. Tell capcom for me . Good luck with that. :lol:

Are you serious?

[QUOTE="Baxhand"]

[QUOTE="IDoItLikeAboss"] Homie please.... You can keep the over rated thrash that is Gears. We have Uncharted so gears who? And lol at ANOTHER halo...again, but a remake of the first one. Yeah, we sure are drooling over that /sarcasm And Forza? Please....i could care less about driving sims Regardless ps3 users have the orginal OG of racing sims. Gran Turismo Forza started out as a poor man's version of Gran TurismoIDoItLikeAboss

Dude people will be playing Gears 3 after Uncharted 3 has faded off into the sunset.

That poor guys version knocked out the champ 10 years ago ? Right?

Nothing wrong with a great single player game. I was just stating that the single player will be an awesome short lived experince compared to multi player. Gears 3 multi player is hands down top notch. I wish it was on the pc.../cry

If u3 out sells GOW3. I will eat my hat.

I agree with the Halo combat evolved. At that price point and with the people that didn't have a chance to play it on the original xbox. It's going the rip and tear at retail.

[QUOTE="IDoItLikeAboss"][QUOTE="Zophar87"]

My 360 has more problems then I care to share with you. Oh well, at least not losing my personal data and credit card info isn't one of them.

Zophar87

That's such a silly analogy and I'm going to prove you wrong later. We all know Sony lost the personal data of it's users and Sony could have prevented it.

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"As for what that means to PSN and Qriocity users, Sony said that "an unauthorized person" has gained access to such identifying information as registrants "name, address (city, state, zip), country, e-mail address, birth date, PlayStation Network/Qriocity password and login, and handle/PSN online ID." Sony recently told a group of investors that the PSN currently has some 75 million registered users."

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It's also been proven that the attack against Sony was provoked. Sony had also laid off it's security staff earlier this year while using an out of date Firewall to secure it's user's data. If a bank had a big sign saying "Hey! We laid off all our employees and our security cameras are completely broken." then yes, I would hold that bank accountable for every action.

Those are valid arguments and valid links; I suggest you start using them before you continue on your little rant.

[QUOTE="Zophar87"]

[QUOTE="IDoItLikeAboss"] I never had that problem either! And from the looks of it no one really else has either, since you know, there are no.reports are evidence of any ps3 user ever having any information stolen. And the outage was soley due to hackers. Would you blame a bank for getting robbed, or would you blame the criminals?IDoItLikeAboss

That's such a silly analogy and I'm going to prove you wrong later. We all know Sony lost the personal data of it's users and Sony could have prevented it.

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"As for what that means to PSN and Qriocity users, Sony said that "an unauthorized person" has gained access to such identifying information as registrants "name, address (city, state, zip), country, e-mail address, birth date, PlayStation Network/Qriocity password and login, and handle/PSN online ID." Sony recently told a group of investors that the PSN currently has some 75 million registered users."

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It's also been proven that the attack against Sony was provoked. Sony had also laid off it's security staff earlier this year while using an out of date Firewall to secure it's user's data. If a bank had a big sign saying "Hey! We laid off all our employees and our security cameras are completely broken." then yes, I would hold that bank accountable for every action.

Those are valid arguments and valid links; I suggest you start using them before you continue on your little rant.

Yeah, right... How is my analogy over exaggerated? I'm only playing off your logic.

Hey, Sony rolled the red carpet and left the doors wide open and that wasn't their fault? You're missing the point though, while I do blame the hackers to a certain extent I feel as though it would be ludicrous to not hold Sony accountable for the actions. If you leave your car unlocked and it gets stolen, isn't it your fault for not remembering to lock up your car?

Two games that anyone who owns a PS3 should already have in their library and a free month of PSN+? Give me a break, it's almost as if they're laughing in at their fan's ignorance.

I know it's old news but it's still a valid argument and it would be absurd to think otherwise.

OMG there just video games companys.. People are acting like its a race war...

[QUOTE="IDoItLikeAboss"][QUOTE="Zophar87"]

That's such a silly analogy and I'm going to prove you wrong later. We all know Sony lost the personal data of it's users and Sony could have prevented it.

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"As for what that means to PSN and Qriocity users, Sony said that "an unauthorized person" has gained access to such identifying information as registrants "name, address (city, state, zip), country, e-mail address, birth date, PlayStation Network/Qriocity password and login, and handle/PSN online ID." Sony recently told a group of investors that the PSN currently has some 75 million registered users."

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It's also been proven that the attack against Sony was provoked. Sony had also laid off it's security staff earlier this year while using an out of date Firewall to secure it's user's data. If a bank had a big sign saying "Hey! We laid off all our employees and our security cameras are completely broken." then yes, I would hold that bank accountable for every action.

Those are valid arguments and valid links; I suggest you start using them before you continue on your little rant.

Zophar87

Yeah, right... How is my analogy over exaggerated? I'm only playing off your logic.

Hey, Sony rolled the red carpet and left the doors wide open and that wasn't their fault? You're missing the point though, while I do blame the hackers to a certain extent I feel as though it would be ludicrous to not hold Sony accountable for the actions. If you leave your car unlocked and it gets stolen, isn't it your fault for not remembering to lock up your car?

I know it's old news but it's still a valid argument and it would be absurd to think otherwise.

OMG there just video games companys.. People are acting like its a race war...

VensInferno

[QUOTE="Zophar87"]

[QUOTE="IDoItLikeAboss"] Maybe Sony "could" have prevented it but even the government has been hacked when targeted like Sony was targeted . My analogy was spot on. Your analogy was over exaggerated and really is ridiculous Plus your clearly misinformed as there have been no incidents of any information ever being stolen as the data was encrypted and that's one of many precautions.Sony took when they were illegally attacked after having been maliciously targeted by cyber criminals. But regarding your first link. Should we go ahead and blame a bank for being targeted and not the criminals that targeted them? And by your logic let's put all the blame squarely on the bank for not being able to prevent a robbery . Since they could have not been robbed But ill take the psn outage over PROD any day. At least I still had a system to play. And the outage was not Sony's fault where as the PROD was soley Microsoft's fault And you must have forgot about the welcome back program as well. The psn outage is so old news. That's over withIDoItLikeAboss

Yeah, right... How is my analogy over exaggerated? I'm only playing off your logic.

Hey, Sony rolled the red carpet and left the doors wide open and that wasn't their fault? You're missing the point though, while I do blame the hackers to a certain extent I feel as though it would be ludicrous to not hold Sony accountable for the actions. If you leave your car unlocked and it gets stolen, isn't it your fault for not remembering to lock up your car?

I know it's old news but it's still a valid argument and it would be absurd to think otherwise.

I like how you flip everything I have said. How am I exxagerating exactly, am I not using the same logic as you?

Answer the question I asked originally; If I bank was robbed and the bank fired their security staff, would you hold the bank responsible for that? Sony had lowered their defences themselves and the only people responsible for that would be Sony. The hackers didn't ask them to fire their security department, nor did they ask them to keep their firewall software on the down-low.

Also, I never said XBL is secure by any means nor did I claim to be a Xbox 360 fanboy. I guess you just assumed, much like you assume that your personal data wasn't stolen. What's that? Oh, yes, it says right in the headline that Sony confirms that personal data from PSN was compromised.

why dont nintendo and MS copy sony and actually make some good exclusives for a change?

OWNAGErussiaAK47

And yet, both Wii's & 360's exclusives tops all of the PS3's exclusives in scores & in sales.

[QUOTE="russiaAK47"]

why dont nintendo and MS copy sony and actually make some good exclusives for a change?

OWNAGEgarland51

And yet, both Nintendo & MS exclusives tops all of Sony's exclusives in sales.

[QUOTE="garland51"]

[QUOTE="russiaAK47"]

why dont nintendo and MS copy sony and actually make some good exclusives for a change?

OWNAGEcarljohnson3456

And yet, both Nintendo & MS exclusives tops all of Sony's exclusives in sales.

Uncharted 2 wishes it was half as good as SMG2.

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="garland51"]

And yet, both Nintendo & MS exclusives tops all of Sony's exclusives in sales.

Zophar87

Uncharted 2 wishes it was half as good as SMG2.

[QUOTE="Zophar87"]

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] You're right. Wii Play >>> Uncharted 2. carljohnson3456

Uncharted 2 wishes it was half as good as SMG2.

So you're saying they looked for it to be compared to Wii Play? :roll:

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="Zophar87"]

Uncharted 2 wishes it was half as good as SMG2.

Zophar87

So you're saying they looked for it to be compared to Wii Play? :roll:

why dont nintendo and MS copy sony and actually make some good exclusives for a change?

OWNAGE

russiaAK47

Exclusives is the one area where the wii wasn't lacking IMO.

The xbox has how many exclusives this year? 2?

[QUOTE="Zophar87"]

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] I dont think Naughty Dog was looking for Uncharted to ever be compared to SMG2...carljohnson3456

So you're saying they looked for it to be compared to Wii Play? :roll:

Ah, sorry dear.. Sarcasm doesn't translate well through text. Carry on.

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="Zophar87"]

So you're saying they looked for it to be compared to Wii Play? :roll:

Zophar87

Ah, sorry dear.. Sarcasm doesn't translate well through text. Carry on.

MS copied Sony with the Kinect because its basically the MS version of the Eye Toy.

[QUOTE="Zophar87"]

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] Before you dish out the :roll:, I was being sarcastic about that guy's statement... sales dont always correlate with quality. ;)carljohnson3456

Ah, sorry dear.. Sarcasm doesn't translate well through text. Carry on.

I was having a little too much fun with my new friend earlier.

[QUOTE="Zophar87"]

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] I dont think Naughty Dog was looking for Uncharted to ever be compared to SMG2...carljohnson3456

So you're saying they looked for it to be compared to Wii Play? :roll:

While both Nintendo & Microsoft have less exclusives than Sony has right now, they are filled with quality rather than quantity. Sony is too busy wasting tons of money making all of these exclusive games in which won't even sell well, save for a few like Uncharted or Gran Turismo.

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="Zophar87"]

So you're saying they looked for it to be compared to Wii Play? :roll:garland51

While both Nintendo & Microsoft have less exclusives than Sony has right now, they are filled with quality rather than quantity. Sony is too busy wasting tons of money making all of these exclusive games in which won't even sell well, save for a few like Uncharted or Gran Turismo.

[QUOTE="mynamesdenvrmax"]Sony didnt have an online system so they pump out a dumbed down XBLSony completely took the Wii mote and made into something better, but cant support it properly.More SonyPS StoreXBLA-like games They stole the no backwards compatitibility thing from the 90'sMicrosoftXMB-like dashboard, just made it look appealing to the eye.Motion gaming from Wii, but its completely different[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] you mean the ones this year where the majority flopped?IDoItLikeAboss

I was generalizing a bit, but my job has me going into around 10 different houses a day, all over the city, good parts and bad parts. I go into every single room of the house, I often take a mental note of the consoles because I'm a gamer and am drawn to those things. I also take note of the people buying them. My comment is based off of around 50 houses a week, usually 20 of those have a current gen console. I've actually thought about taking note of my findings to see if I'm right, sure its limited to my area but it would still be interesting.

I dont hate Sony, I dont hate Playstation, but I dont feel like the PS3 lives up to the name. I loved the PS2, I got an Xbox and played on Live and thats when my love for XBox started. They seem to have things right for me, an easy way to play with friends and family online. The fee isnt a problem for someone who works or even has a allowance ($4 a month..roughly).

The company that made Rock Band copied the company that made Guitar Hero.

MS copied Sony with the Kinect because its basically the MS version of the Eye Toy.

HaloPimp978

[QUOTE="HaloPimp978"]

MS copied Sony with the Kinect because its basically the MS version of the Eye Toy.

Silverbond

I'm pretty sure Kinect is quite a bit different. You dont see people making mods for the Eye toy like Kinect. The Eyetoy is really just a webcam. The Kinect has two cameras and the IR "grid", plus a great set of microphones that are pretty good at hearing my voice even over loud movies or games.

MS copied Nintendo and going for them der casual dolalrs, it's not even closeHeil68

[QUOTE="HaloPimp978"]

MS copied Sony with the Kinect because its basically the MS version of the Eye Toy.

Silverbond

Move doesn't count it is a complete and utter fail copy of wii mote.

Move is the closest thing to copy anything though. It's a straight ripoff.

[QUOTE="Silverbond"][QUOTE="HaloPimp978"]

MS copied Sony with the Kinect because its basically the MS version of the Eye Toy.

Baxhand

Move doesn't count it is a complete and utter fail copy of wii mote.

Move is the closest thing to copy anything though. It's a straight ripoff.

I fully agree. I called it as soon as they announced it. I knew Kinect would completely outsell it and Sony would forget all about Move within a year. The only thing I like about Move is the fact that its the closest thing we can get toa lightgun-esque shooter.

[QUOTE="Baxhand"]

[QUOTE="Silverbond"] What do you think about Move?mynamesdenvrmax

Move doesn't count it is a complete and utter fail copy of wii mote.

Move is the closest thing to copy anything though. It's a straight ripoff.

I fully agree. I called it as soon as they announced it. I knew Kinect would completely outsell it and Sony would forget all about Move within a year. The only thing I like about Move is the fact that its the closest thing we can get toa lightgun-esque shooter.

NES duck hunt FTW!!!

[QUOTE="mynamesdenvrmax"]

[QUOTE="Baxhand"]

Move doesn't count it is a complete and utter fail copy of wii mote.

Move is the closest thing to copy anything though. It's a straight ripoff.

Baxhand

I fully agree. I called it as soon as they announced it. I knew Kinect would completely outsell it and Sony would forget all about Move within a year. The only thing I like about Move is the fact that its the closest thing we can get toa lightgun-esque shooter.

NES duck hunt FTW!!!

haha I'm still holding out hope that MS will allow a gun prop and put an analog stick for running on it for Kinect.

[QUOTE="Baxhand"]

[QUOTE="mynamesdenvrmax"]

I fully agree. I called it as soon as they announced it. I knew Kinect would completely outsell it and Sony would forget all about Move within a year. The only thing I like about Move is the fact that its the closest thing we can get toa lightgun-esque shooter.

mynamesdenvrmax

NES duck hunt FTW!!!

haha I'm still holding out hope that MS will allow a gun prop and put an analog stick for running on it for Kinect.

That would be sweet.

Here's idea I had about true movement in kinect. No running in place garbage.

They need to add a usb direction pad like dance dance revo. That you put on the floor as a playing surface..

Just step towards the way you want to go in the game. Stand in the middle to not move. If you want to move/walk slow just keep one foot in the home position middle. One foot on the direction you want to walk. Want to run put both feet on the direction arrow. I have no clue why they havn't done this?

I think that would be pure win?

Edit: It needs to be an 8 way direction pad also. I forgot to add that.

[QUOTE="mynamesdenvrmax"]

[QUOTE="Baxhand"]

NES duck hunt FTW!!!

Baxhand

haha I'm still holding out hope that MS will allow a gun prop and put an analog stick for running on it for Kinect.

That would be sweet.

Here's idea I had about true movement in kinect. No running in place garbage.

They need to add a usb direction pad like dance dance revo. That you put on the floor as a playing surface..

Just step towards the way you want to go in the game. Stand in the middle to not move. If you want to move/walk slow just keep one foot in the home position middle. One foot on the direction you want to walk. Want to run put both feet on the direction arrow. I have no clue why they havn't done this?

I think that would be pure win?

Edit: It needs to be an 8 way direction pad also. I forgot to add that.

I dont know where my initial post went. Anyway. Thats a good idea. I think they could even get away without using the pad. It should be able to see you step forward as if you were putting your foot on an invisible pad. I hope someone is working on something like this. If done right, hardcore gamers might start to use Kinect. I'd even be happy with a house of the dead game with a gun, it was on rails but I still enjoyed it.

[QUOTE="Baxhand"]

[QUOTE="mynamesdenvrmax"]

haha I'm still holding out hope that MS will allow a gun prop and put an analog stick for running on it for Kinect.

mynamesdenvrmax

That would be sweet.

Here's idea I had about true movement in kinect. No running in place garbage.

They need to add a usb direction pad like dance dance revo. That you put on the floor as a playing surface..

Just step towards the way you want to go in the game. Stand in the middle to not move. If you want to move/walk slow just keep one foot in the home position middle. One foot on the direction you want to walk. Want to run put both feet on the direction arrow. I have no clue why they havn't done this?

I think that would be pure win?

Edit: It needs to be an 8 way direction pad also. I forgot to add that.

I dont know where my initial post went. Anyway. Thats a good idea. I think they could even get away without using the pad. It should be able to see you step forward as if you were putting your foot on an invisible pad. I hope someone is working on something like this. If done right, hardcore gamers might start to use Kinect. I'd even be happy with a house of the dead game with a gun, it was on rails but I still enjoyed it.

Heck yeah.

If microsoft wanted to makekinect really shine . They need two rearsensors on tripods that capture your whole room with you in it. Capture a 3d field of view.

Then they could have perfect insight as to what the gamer is doing 100%.

With the way it is set up right now. It can only see the front of the player. It restricts what they can do at this time. If they added 2 more sensors. It would be amazing as to what it could do.