who said that forza looked bad? *NEW SCREENS*

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#1 Thebettertwin
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wow the reflections are stunning

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#2 daveg1
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replay shots...................................:roll:
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#3 Uptown
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it doesnt look bad...it just isnt jaw dropping like we all were hoping.
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#4 psyko7144
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Buh, Buh teh jaggize, Lookz cart00nish,
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#5 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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Only sonyfanboys who feel it threatens GT say Forza looks bad. That was easy enough to answer.
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#6 livespawn
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i think it looks good and cant wait to play

 

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#7 KrYpTiC_SnAke
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Forza looks great but GT: HD has the slight edge
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#8 OhSnapitz
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I've seen vids of this and GTHD and GT looks better.. But that's not to say that forza looks bad...  I'm still getting it..
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#9 mrboo15
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Oh so now Lemmings are allowed to post REPLAY shots to show how good the graphics look? :roll: There still jaggie, blurry and have a very rubbish lighting model.
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#10 TheOneMan
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GTHD looks better, but Forza still looks ok. There's too much damn motion blur.

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#11 Pizza_Guy450
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Looks pretty damn good, but that motion blur is getting a bit on the rediculous side if you ask me.
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Oh so now Lemmings are allowed to post REPLAY shots to show how good the graphics look? :roll: There still jaggie, blurry and have a very rubbish lighting model.mrboo15
Because Cows weren't doing that at all? :roll:
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#13 psyko7144
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Oh so now Lemmings are allowed to post REPLAY shots to show how good the graphics look? :roll: There still jaggie, blurry and have a very rubbish lighting model.mrboo15
In GTHD everthing BUT the cars looks like rubbish, don't get me wrong the cars look great but I have yet to play Forza 2 so I am in no position to comment on IT, but I HAVE played GTHD and can say without a doubt it does not look as good in motion as it does in screen shots. I do own an HDTV so I'm not missing out on the whole HD aspect of the presentation.
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#14 turgore
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Oh so now Lemmings are allowed to post REPLAY shots to show how good the graphics look? :roll: There still jaggie, blurry and have a very rubbish lighting model.mrboo15

 

jealous ? 

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#15 Cedmln
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I just want to play it already. I thought it was coming out this month, but i guess not. I'm also tired of waiting for the stupid Halo 3 beta. I also can't play Gears of War for much longer...
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#16 blurb1324
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I just want to play it already. I thought it was coming out this month, but i guess not. I'm also tired of waiting for the stupid Halo 3 beta. I also can't play Gears of War for much longer...Cedmln
I thought Forza was May?
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[QUOTE="Cedmln"]I just want to play it already. I thought it was coming out this month, but i guess not. I'm also tired of waiting for the stupid Halo 3 beta. I also can't play Gears of War for much longer...blurb1324
I thought Forza was May?

It's like the first week of may.. I have it reserved at GS...
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#18 Doomshine
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Technically it's good, but the cars just don't look real to me.
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Looks great to me :)
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[QUOTE="mrboo15"]Oh so now Lemmings are allowed to post REPLAY shots to show how good the graphics look? :roll: There still jaggie, blurry and have a very rubbish lighting model.psyko7144


In GTHD everthing BUT the cars looks like rubbish, don't get me wrong the cars look great but I have yet to play Forza 2 so I am in no position to comment on IT, but I HAVE played GTHD and can say without a doubt it does not look as good in motion as it does in screen shots. I do own an HDTV so I'm not missing out on the whole HD aspect of the presentation.

GTHD environments are afterall....PS2's environments with HD resolution visuals and slightly bumped up polygons.  the envoronments were built from scratch...the cars were. 

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#21 psyko7144
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[QUOTE="psyko7144"][QUOTE="mrboo15"]Oh so now Lemmings are allowed to post REPLAY shots to show how good the graphics look? :roll: There still jaggie, blurry and have a very rubbish lighting model.Uptown



In GTHD everthing BUT the cars looks like rubbish, don't get me wrong the cars look great but I have yet to play Forza 2 so I am in no position to comment on IT, but I HAVE played GTHD and can say without a doubt it does not look as good in motion as it does in screen shots. I do own an HDTV so I'm not missing out on the whole HD aspect of the presentation.

GTHD environments are afterall....PS2's environments with HD resolution visuals and slightly bumped up polygons.  the envoronments were built from scratch...the cars were. 

I love the GT series but I feel that since GT2 the only innovation Polyphony Digital has brought are in the aspect of visual fidelity.
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stupid AE86, I want more Rotaries in the damn game Turn10
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Meh. The graphics still look pretty bad. Now instead of just being cartoony, they look like cheap CGI renders too. The cars still don't have as realistic sheen on them as the ones in GT do. This is more fact than opinion, so anyone who says anything otherwise is just being a fanboy.
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#24 psyko7144
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Meh. The graphics still look pretty bad. Now instead of just being cartoony, they look like cheap CGI renders too. The cars still don't have as realistic sheen on them as the ones in GT do. This is more fact than opinion, so anyone who says anything otherwise is just being a fanboy.PikaPichu
You say the game looks BAD then state that this is more fact than opinion!? You sir are THE fanboy.
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[QUOTE="PikaPichu"]Meh. The graphics still look pretty bad. Now instead of just being cartoony, they look like cheap CGI renders too. The cars still don't have as realistic sheen on them as the ones in GT do. This is more fact than opinion, so anyone who says anything otherwise is just being a fanboy.psyko7144
You say the game looks BAD then state that this is more fact than opinion!? You sir are THE fanboy.

If you bothered reading through the middle part of my post, you'd also see that I mentioned that they look like cheap CGI renders, which doesn't cut it compared to the more realistic renders seen from GT games.
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#26 psyko7144
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[QUOTE="psyko7144"][QUOTE="PikaPichu"]Meh. The graphics still look pretty bad. Now instead of just being cartoony, they look like cheap CGI renders too. The cars still don't have as realistic sheen on them as the ones in GT do. This is more fact than opinion, so anyone who says anything otherwise is just being a fanboy.PikaPichu
You say the game looks BAD then state that this is more fact than opinion!? You sir are THE fanboy.

If you bothered reading through the middle part of my post, you'd also see that I mentioned that they look like cheap CGI renders, which doesn't cut it compared to the more realistic renders seen from GT games.

I read the entire post but the middle of the post did not change the fact that what you said was ridiculous. You basically said that if anyone thinks the game looks anything but bad they are a fanboy.
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#27 acekall
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those pics look really good. The environments look better then GTHD's environments
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#28 Khansoul
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Only sonyfanboys who feel it threatens GT say Forza looks bad. That was easy enough to answer.AdobeArtist

Threatens GT? I really hope you are joking.

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#29 danneswegman
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i think the game will look great in motion. The physics are INCREDIBLY good
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[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]Only sonyfanboys who feel it threatens GT say Forza looks bad. That was easy enough to answer.Khansoul

Threatens GT? I really hope you are joking.

i played GT:HD... i seriously hope GT5 does a better job at car simulation. GT:HD looked great, but the gameplay was truelly horrible. Bad sound, horrible physics, etc.. Forza 2 lookes much better in the simulation departement. watch the walktrough video on gamespot. it's really great.
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[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]Only sonyfanboys who feel it threatens GT say Forza looks bad. That was easy enough to answer.Khansoul

Threatens GT? I really hope you are joking.

And I hope U are joking, by ur response it seems u don't even know forza.
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[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]Only sonyfanboys who feel it threatens GT say Forza looks bad. That was easy enough to answer.Khansoul

Threatens GT? I really hope you are joking.

What was it 9.2>>>>8.9, if I remember correctly, Forza's got GT by the balls!
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Forza looks great but GT: HD has the slight edgeKrYpTiC_SnAke
agreed. i cant wait to play both forza and GT : HD just seems that Gt HD will be a much better game with much beter graphics tho from what ive seen from both games
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replay shots...................................:roll:daveg1

And that matters how? It's in game, and it's the same graphics that you see if you were racing. 

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#35 Rob2223
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[QUOTE="daveg1"]replay shots...................................:roll:Ryo_Kensen

And that matters how? It's in game, and it's the same graphics that you see if you were racing. 

and the same cant be said for GT:HD.

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#36 GermanShepard06
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everytime someone makes a thread how good Forza looks its always the screens with just one car on the screen. Just wait until the gameplay screens come out and then we can talk about graphics.
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Oh so now Lemmings are allowed to post REPLAY shots to show how good the graphics look? :roll: There still jaggie, blurry and have a very rubbish lighting model.mrboo15

As if cows haven't done the same thing for GT HD. :roll:

And this pic looks a lot better than what we've seen before. Little by little Forza is improving.

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[QUOTE="mrboo15"]Oh so now Lemmings are allowed to post REPLAY shots to show how good the graphics look? :roll: There still jaggie, blurry and have a very rubbish lighting model.The_Game21x

As if cows haven't done the same thing for GT HD. :roll:

And this pic looks a lot better than what we've seen before. Little by little Forza is improving.

improving? how do we know that when they still didnt show any new gameplay screens or video?

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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="mrboo15"]Oh so now Lemmings are allowed to post REPLAY shots to show how good the graphics look? :roll: There still jaggie, blurry and have a very rubbish lighting model.GermanShepard06

As if cows haven't done the same thing for GT HD. :roll:

And this pic looks a lot better than what we've seen before. Little by little Forza is improving.

improving? how do we know that when they still didnt show any new gameplay screens or video?

Because even though they are taken from replays, those relays are still being rendered in engine, which means that's exactly what the game will look like during gameplay as well.

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[QUOTE="GermanShepard06"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="mrboo15"]Oh so now Lemmings are allowed to post REPLAY shots to show how good the graphics look? :roll: There still jaggie, blurry and have a very rubbish lighting model.The_Game21x

As if cows haven't done the same thing for GT HD. :roll:

And this pic looks a lot better than what we've seen before. Little by little Forza is improving.

improving? how do we know that when they still didnt show any new gameplay screens or video?

Because even though they are taken from replays, those relays are still being rendered in engine, which means that's exactly what the game will look like during gameplay as well.

guess what? they are not taken from replays.

they are just trying to pull one of these:

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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="GermanShepard06"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="mrboo15"]Oh so now Lemmings are allowed to post REPLAY shots to show how good the graphics look? :roll: There still jaggie, blurry and have a very rubbish lighting model.GermanShepard06

As if cows haven't done the same thing for GT HD. :roll:

And this pic looks a lot better than what we've seen before. Little by little Forza is improving.

improving? how do we know that when they still didnt show any new gameplay screens or video?

Because even though they are taken from replays, those relays are still being rendered in engine, which means that's exactly what the game will look like during gameplay as well.

guess what? they are not taken from replays.

they are just trying to pull one of these:

Keep thinking that if you wish. You'll be eating your words soon enough. :wink:

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[QUOTE="GermanShepard06"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="mrboo15"]Oh so now Lemmings are allowed to post REPLAY shots to show how good the graphics look? :roll: There still jaggie, blurry and have a very rubbish lighting model.The_Game21x

As if cows haven't done the same thing for GT HD. :roll:

And this pic looks a lot better than what we've seen before. Little by little Forza is improving.

improving? how do we know that when they still didnt show any new gameplay screens or video?

Because even though they are taken from replays, those relays are still being rendered in engine, which means that's exactly what the game will look like during gameplay as well.

that's not always true.. replay and inengine animations sometimes are better looking than the actual gameplay. That's because gameplay is interactive and requires much more power.... The Gears image shown by GermanShepard is in engine, but not gameplay. The gameplay looks good, but not this good.
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#43 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="GermanShepard06"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="mrboo15"]Oh so now Lemmings are allowed to post REPLAY shots to show how good the graphics look? :roll: There still jaggie, blurry and have a very rubbish lighting model.danneswegman

As if cows haven't done the same thing for GT HD. :roll:

And this pic looks a lot better than what we've seen before. Little by little Forza is improving.

improving? how do we know that when they still didnt show any new gameplay screens or video?

Because even though they are taken from replays, those relays are still being rendered in engine, which means that's exactly what the game will look like during gameplay as well.



that's not always true.. replay and inengine animations sometimes are better looking than the actual gameplay. That's because gameplay is interactive and requires much more power.... The Gears image shown by GermanShepard is in engine, but not gameplay. The gameplay looks good, but not this good.

In most cases, replays aren't significantly different from gameplay shots. But I get what you're saying and that is sometimes true, the most recent case I can think of being PGR 3.

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#44 danneswegman
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n most cases, replays aren't significantly different from gameplay shots. But I get what you're saying and that is sometimes true, the most recent case I can think of being PGR 3.The_Game21x


yeah, and sometimes the replays are worse (formula 1 on PS3).. Point is, most games are made entirely in-engine these days. But not everything is interactive gameplay. everything that's not interactive, has the possibility to look much better.it's up to the developers to make it look better, similar or worse... Even lot's of cutscenes are made in-engine these days..
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Meh......
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#46 espoac
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why are people comparing this to GTHD, which was a free demo? All it was, was a tech. demonstrartion running on the GT4 engine. BTW, imagine what Poliphony will do with a whole new engine for GT5:D
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#47 xxxWigginsxxx
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Forza looks great but GT: HD has the slight edgeKrYpTiC_SnAke

 

Yes, but GT doesn't come close to the phsyics and damage effects that Forza has which makes Forza more impressive overall.

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[QUOTE="Khansoul"]

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]Only sonyfanboys who feel it threatens GT say Forza looks bad. That was easy enough to answer.Cubs360

Threatens GT? I really hope you are joking.


What was it 9.2>>>>8.9, if I remember correctly, Forza's got GT by the balls!

I said Forza is attacked by fanboys who FEEL it threatens GT, the threat being that GT no longer stands alone as the only realistic racing sim. They want to believe that the only one out there is on their platform and theirs alone. They just can't accept the fact that there IS a racing sim that plays just as well on a competing platform. Again I'm talking about those fanboys who are insecure and only feel it is a threat because they don't have the ONLY true racing sim anymore. I am not saying GT is going anywhere because of Forza.

In fact I will go on record to say that Forza is better than GT for the reason it does everything GT does, AND MORE.

* both games feature many models and brands of real car names

* both feature realistic driving physics (concerning how cars maneuver, turn, and slide on straights and corners at high speeds)

* both allow you to tune the engine and customize with real brand after market parts

* both lets you choose from a range of colors for the car

And here's where Forza leaves GT in the dust.

* Forza features damage modelling adding to the racing and physics realism, not in GT

* Forza lets you customize the body of the car as well as the engine - front and rear fender ****, door trims, hood options, spoiler options, etc... not in GT

* With Forza not only is there color options for the body, there is a wide array of designing options to make your car a work of art, different striping patterns and decals that you can combine in any numer of ways. This in addition to the body customization allows you to truly tailor a signature look to your car that is uniquely your own, where your car stands out from the rest on the track. Again not in GT

I would have brought up online play but with PSN I'm sure GT5 will have that finally.

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[QUOTE="Cubs360"][QUOTE="Khansoul"]

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]Only sonyfanboys who feel it threatens GT say Forza looks bad. That was easy enough to answer.AdobeArtist

Threatens GT? I really hope you are joking.


What was it 9.2>>>>8.9, if I remember correctly, Forza's got GT by the balls!

I said Forza is attacked by fanboys who FEEL it threatens GT, the threat being that GT no longer stands alone as the only realistic racing sim. They want to believe that the only one out there is on their platform and theirs alone. They just can't accept the fact that there IS a racing sim that plays just as well on a competing platform. Again I'm talking about those fanboys who are insecure and only feel it is a threat because they don't have the ONLY true racing sim anymore. I am not saying GT is going anywhere because of Forza.

In fact I will go on record to say that Forza is better than GT for the reason it does everything GT does, AND MORE.

* both games feature many models and brands of real car names

* both feature realistic driving physics (concerning how cars maneuver, turn, and slide on straights and corners at high speeds)

* both allow you to tune the engine and customize with real brand after market parts

* both lets you choose from a range of colors for the car

And here's where Forza leaves GT in the dust.

* Forza features damage modelling adding to the racing and physics realism, not in GT

* Forza lets you customize the body of the car as well as the engine - front and rear fender ****, door trims, hood options, spoiler options, etc... not in GT

* With Forza not only is there color options for the body, there is a wide array of designing options to make your car a work of art, different striping patterns and decals that you can combine in any numer of ways. This in addition to the body customization allows you to truly tailor a signature look to your car that is uniquely your own, where your car stands out from the rest on the track. Again not in GT

I would have brought up online play but with PSN I'm sure GT5 will have that finally.

thank you for taking the time and creating a constructive post, i agree 100% with your points so what if Gt is slighyl more slicker, forza has great damage and it allows you to personalise your car, also a major factor for me - online play (allthough GT5 will have this, i presume)

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[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]Only sonyfanboys who feel it threatens GT say Forza looks bad. That was easy enough to answer.mark_c_128

Threatens GT? I really hope you are joking.


What was it 9.2>>>>8.9, if I remember correctly, Forza's got GT by the balls!

I said Forza is attacked by fanboys who FEEL it threatens GT, the threat being that GT no longer stands alone as the only realistic racing sim. They want to believe that the only one out there is on their platform and theirs alone. They just can't accept the fact that there IS a racing sim that plays just as well on a competing platform. Again I'm talking about those fanboys who are insecure and only feel it is a threat because they don't have the ONLY true racing sim anymore. I am not saying GT is going anywhere because of Forza.

In fact I will go on record to say that Forza is better than GT for the reason it does everything GT does, AND MORE.

* both games feature many models and brands of real car names

* both feature realistic driving physics (concerning how cars maneuver, turn, and slide on straights and corners at high speeds)

* both allow you to tune the engine and customize with real brand after market parts

* both lets you choose from a range of colors for the car

And here's where Forza leaves GT in the dust.

* Forza features damage modelling adding to the racing and physics realism, not in GT

* Forza lets you customize the body of the car as well as the engine - front and rear fender ****, door trims, hood options, spoiler options, etc... not in GT

* With Forza not only is there color options for the body, there is a wide array of designing options to make your car a work of art, different striping patterns and decals that you can combine in any numer of ways. This in addition to the body customization allows you to truly tailor a signature look to your car that is uniquely your own, where your car stands out from the rest on the track. Again not in GT

I would have brought up online play but with PSN I'm sure GT5 will have that finally.

thank you for taking the time and creating a constructive post, i agree 100% with your points so what if Gt is slighyl more slicker, forza has great damage and it allows you to personalise your car, also a major factor for me - online play (allthough GT5 will have this, i presume)

GT4 does have online expansion, but the service is only available in japan.