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NationProtector

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#1 NationProtector

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The next gen consoles are about to come out, and between the 360 and PS3, no one knows who won yet apparently as it's still debated for some reason. the latest officials numbers come from MS at over 78 million, and that's about it. So for those who think the 360 is not in third place, please provide proof, as well as the other way around.

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#2 ninjapirate2000

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Who cares.

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FY11

PS3 sales - 13.9 million
PS2 sales - 4.1 million

FY12

PS3 / PS2 sales combined - 16.5 million

Sony states in the report that PS3, PSVita and PSP sales were down YoY. No mention of PS2 sales.

Not only does this indicate that the PS3 sold less than 13.9 million, but that the PS2 sold around 4.1 million again (They only stopped shipping it in the last quarter).

Therefore, the PS3 shipped around 12.4 million during FY12, giving it the grand total of 76.3 million (as of March 31st 2013). For reference, the 360 was at 77.2 million.

FY13 Q1

PS3 sales - 1.1 million

Sony state that revenues were flat. "PlayStation 3, 2 and PSP sales are all quoted as being down"

PS2 sales were down (obviously, they stopp shipping in Jan 2013). PS2 sales were not combined with PS3 sales.

Therefore .....

PS3 is currently at 77.4 million.

360 is at 78.2 million.

Hang in there cows, I'm sure it'll happen one day

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#4 freedomfreak

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#5 PS4TrumpsXbox1

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FY11
PS3 sales - 13.9 million
PS2 sales - 4.1 million
FY12
PS3 / PS2 sales combined - 16.5 million
Sony states in the report that PS3, PSVita and PSP sales were down YoY. No mention of PS2 sales.
Not only does this indicate that the PS3 sold less than 13.9 million, but that the PS2 sold around 4.1 million again (They only stopped shipping it in the last quarter).
Therefore, the PS3 shipped around 12.4 million during FY12, giving it the grand total of 76.3 million (as of March 31st 2013). For reference, the 360 was at 77.2 million.
FY13 Q1
PS3 sales - 1.1 million
Sony state that revenues were flat. "PlayStation 3, 2 and PSP sales are all quoted as being down"
PS2 sales were down (obviously, they stopp shipping in Jan 2013). PS2 sales were not combined with PS3 sales.
Therefore .....
PS3 is currently at 77.4 million.
360 is at 78.2 million.
Hang in there cows, I'm sure it'll happen one day
RR360DD

Lol really? Thats not proof but dumb lemming assumptions and guessing, try again

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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]
FY11
PS3 sales - 13.9 million
PS2 sales - 4.1 million
FY12
PS3 / PS2 sales combined - 16.5 million
Sony states in the report that PS3, PSVita and PSP sales were down YoY. No mention of PS2 sales.
Not only does this indicate that the PS3 sold less than 13.9 million, but that the PS2 sold around 4.1 million again (They only stopped shipping it in the last quarter).
Therefore, the PS3 shipped around 12.4 million during FY12, giving it the grand total of 76.3 million (as of March 31st 2013). For reference, the 360 was at 77.2 million.
FY13 Q1
PS3 sales - 1.1 million
Sony state that revenues were flat. "PlayStation 3, 2 and PSP sales are all quoted as being down"
PS2 sales were down (obviously, they stopp shipping in Jan 2013). PS2 sales were not combined with PS3 sales.
Therefore .....
PS3 is currently at 77.4 million.
360 is at 78.2 million.
Hang in there cows, I'm sure it'll happen one day
PS4TrumpsXbox1

Lol really? Thats not proof but dumb lemming assumptions and guessing, try again

So provide your evidence to counter his then.

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#7 PS4TrumpsXbox1

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[QUOTE="PS4TrumpsXbox1"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]
FY11
PS3 sales - 13.9 million
PS2 sales - 4.1 million
FY12
PS3 / PS2 sales combined - 16.5 million
Sony states in the report that PS3, PSVita and PSP sales were down YoY. No mention of PS2 sales.
Not only does this indicate that the PS3 sold less than 13.9 million, but that the PS2 sold around 4.1 million again (They only stopped shipping it in the last quarter).
Therefore, the PS3 shipped around 12.4 million during FY12, giving it the grand total of 76.3 million (as of March 31st 2013). For reference, the 360 was at 77.2 million.
FY13 Q1
PS3 sales - 1.1 million
Sony state that revenues were flat. "PlayStation 3, 2 and PSP sales are all quoted as being down"
PS2 sales were down (obviously, they stopp shipping in Jan 2013). PS2 sales were not combined with PS3 sales.
Therefore .....
PS3 is currently at 77.4 million.
360 is at 78.2 million.
Hang in there cows, I'm sure it'll happen one day
clyde46

Lol really? Thats not proof but dumb lemming assumptions and guessing, try again

So provide your evidence to counter his then.

THere is none, and I dont have to for anyone to see he is assuming just cuz sony said they sold less than the previous year in his year to year breakdown. That doesnt serve as proof or show anything as no one knows how much less was sold

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Xbox is probably still in the lead, but due to Sony combining sales the way they do to make things look better than they actually are we will probably never know for sure.

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#9 Consternated

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In the next few years, I see the PS3 getting more sales. Right now, which has sold more? I don't know, and I don't care.

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#10 LegatoSkyheart

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360 was always ahead of PS3.

Only till now is PS3 picking up the pace.

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#11 PS4TrumpsXbox1

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[QUOTE="PS4TrumpsXbox1"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]
FY11
PS3 sales - 13.9 million
PS2 sales - 4.1 million
FY12
PS3 / PS2 sales combined - 16.5 million
Sony states in the report that PS3, PSVita and PSP sales were down YoY. No mention of PS2 sales.
Not only does this indicate that the PS3 sold less than 13.9 million, but that the PS2 sold around 4.1 million again (They only stopped shipping it in the last quarter).
Therefore, the PS3 shipped around 12.4 million during FY12, giving it the grand total of 76.3 million (as of March 31st 2013). For reference, the 360 was at 77.2 million.
FY13 Q1
PS3 sales - 1.1 million
Sony state that revenues were flat. "PlayStation 3, 2 and PSP sales are all quoted as being down"
PS2 sales were down (obviously, they stopp shipping in Jan 2013). PS2 sales were not combined with PS3 sales.
Therefore .....
PS3 is currently at 77.4 million.
360 is at 78.2 million.
Hang in there cows, I'm sure it'll happen one day
clyde46

Lol really? Thats not proof but dumb lemming assumptions and guessing, try again

So provide your evidence to counter his then.

Actually I have proof that would deny RROD guy's whole explanation. He stated in March of 2013 ps3 sales were at 76.3 milion sales, there have been articles published in Dec of 2012 that states that number is 77 million (almost 1 million more than he stated in 3 months shorter time, so its obvious its assumptions (one thats way off it would seem)). http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/article/446107/idc_total_ps3_sales_top_xbox_360/

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.freedomfreak

This. It doesn't matter who's 2nd, they're both looooossseeeeeerrrsssss.

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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="PS4TrumpsXbox1"] Lol really? Thats not proof but dumb lemming assumptions and guessing, try againPS4TrumpsXbox1

So provide your evidence to counter his then.

Actually I have proof that would deny RROD guy's whole explanation. He stated in March of 2013 ps3 sales were at 76.3 milion sales, there have been articles published in Dec of 2012 that states that number is 77 million (almost 1 million more than he stated in 3 months shorter time, so its obvious its assumptions (one thats way off it would seem)). http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/article/446107/idc_total_ps3_sales_top_xbox_360/

you mean the IDC estimations?

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#14 PS4TrumpsXbox1

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[QUOTE="PS4TrumpsXbox1"][QUOTE="clyde46"] So provide your evidence to counter his then. lostrib

Actually I have proof that would deny RROD guy's whole explanation. He stated in March of 2013 ps3 sales were at 76.3 milion sales, there have been articles published in Dec of 2012 that states that number is 77 million (almost 1 million more than he stated in 3 months shorter time, so its obvious its assumptions (one thats way off it would seem)). http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/article/446107/idc_total_ps3_sales_top_xbox_360/

you mean the IDC estimations?

Better than guessing and assumption expecially since its 700,000 units more in actually 4 months less time (I think i previously stated 3 months)

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Actually I have proof that would deny RROD guy's whole explanation. He stated in March of 2013 ps3 sales were at 76.3 milion sales, there have been articles published in Dec of 2012 that states that number is 77 million (almost 1 million more than he stated in 3 months shorter time, so its obvious its assumptions (one thats way off it would seem)). http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/article/446107/idc_total_ps3_sales_top_xbox_360/PS4TrumpsXbox1

Those were IDC estimates, dipshit.

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#16 PS4TrumpsXbox1

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[QUOTE="PS4TrumpsXbox1"]Actually I have proof that would deny RROD guy's whole explanation. He stated in March of 2013 ps3 sales were at 76.3 milion sales, there have been articles published in Dec of 2012 that states that number is 77 million (almost 1 million more than he stated in 3 months shorter time, so its obvious its assumptions (one thats way off it would seem)). http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/article/446107/idc_total_ps3_sales_top_xbox_360/lundy86_4

Those were IDC estimates, dipshit.

IDC, a researching firm vs some random lem making dumb assumptions and guessing, and I'm the dipshit?? LOL lems be reaching

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#17 CanYouDiglt

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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="PS4TrumpsXbox1"] Lol really? Thats not proof but dumb lemming assumptions and guessing, try againPS4TrumpsXbox1

So provide your evidence to counter his then.

Actually I have proof that would deny RROD guy's whole explanation. He stated in March of 2013 ps3 sales were at 76.3 milion sales, there have been articles published in Dec of 2012 that states that number is 77 million (almost 1 million more than he stated in 3 months shorter time, so its obvious its assumptions (one thats way off it would seem)). http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/article/446107/idc_total_ps3_sales_top_xbox_360/

Your proof is some company creating their own forcast that has no access to official numbers other then what we all can get?

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IDC, a researching firm vs some random lem making dumb assumptions and guessing, and I'm the dipshit?? LOL lems be reachingPS4TrumpsXbox1

This does not refute the fact, that those were estimates, based on trends. They were not shipment estimates for the period you wanted to use them for (date of the article, and release of the findings), either :?

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360: 78.4 million Ps3: 79.1 million Source: http://www.vgchartz.com/ These are official worldwide sales numbers. 360 and ps3 sold about the same, the difference is negligible

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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]
FY11
PS3 sales - 13.9 million
PS2 sales - 4.1 million
FY12
PS3 / PS2 sales combined - 16.5 million
Sony states in the report that PS3, PSVita and PSP sales were down YoY. No mention of PS2 sales.
Not only does this indicate that the PS3 sold less than 13.9 million, but that the PS2 sold around 4.1 million again (They only stopped shipping it in the last quarter).
Therefore, the PS3 shipped around 12.4 million during FY12, giving it the grand total of 76.3 million (as of March 31st 2013). For reference, the 360 was at 77.2 million.
FY13 Q1
PS3 sales - 1.1 million
Sony state that revenues were flat. "PlayStation 3, 2 and PSP sales are all quoted as being down"
PS2 sales were down (obviously, they stopp shipping in Jan 2013). PS2 sales were not combined with PS3 sales.
Therefore .....
PS3 is currently at 77.4 million.
360 is at 78.2 million.
Hang in there cows, I'm sure it'll happen one day
PS4TrumpsXbox1

Lol really? Thats not proof but dumb lemming assumptions and guessing, try again

Why did you bother to ask then if you didn't want to know the truth. :lol:

Stop making threads already. The XBox 360 is probably over 79 million by now as those 78.2 numbers were for the end of June I believe. Sony has never confirmed the PS3 selling more then that XBox 360. For the past 2 years they were combining PS2 sales with PS3. So we know PS3 numbers are 100% accurate anyways.

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#21 PS4TrumpsXbox1

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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="PS4TrumpsXbox1"][QUOTE="clyde46"] So provide your evidence to counter his then.

Actually I have proof that would deny RROD guy's whole explanation. He stated in March of 2013 ps3 sales were at 76.3 milion sales, there have been articles published in Dec of 2012 that states that number is 77 million (almost 1 million more than he stated in 3 months shorter time, so its obvious its assumptions (one thats way off it would seem)). http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/article/446107/idc_total_ps3_sales_top_xbox_360/

Your proof is some company that has no access to official numbers creating their own forcast?

I was only proving that the other guys guessing was just that guessing that was way off and the article says the estimation from IDC is in line from information released by both companies (Sony and MS) at the time the article was published. So the IDC estimations are probably more accurate than RROD's

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#22 starwolf474

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Sony is not exactly a humble company, so if PS3 ever does pass up Xbox 360, you can bet that Sony will issue a statement to brag about it. They haven't issued a statement about their sales yet because they are still in last place and have to combine PS3 sales with PS2 sales to make their numbers appear higher than they actually are.

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360: 78.4 million Ps3: 79.1 million Source: http://www.vgchartz.com/ These are official worldwide sales numbers. 360 and ps3 sold about the same, the difference is negligibleTheFlush

LOL!! No. VGChartz numbers are way off for one. They are also including the PS2 sales from over the last 2-3 years. XBox 360 was at 78.2 back in June for worldwide sales. They are well over 79 million today.

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i can guess xbox only because the sales of call of duty and multiplats are much higher.

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#25 CanYouDiglt

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Sony is not exactly a humble company, so if PS3 ever does pass up Xbox 360, you can bet that Sony will issue a statement to brag about it. They haven't issued a statement about their sales yet because they are still in last place and have to combine PS3 sales with PS2 sales to make their numbers appear higher than they actually are.starwolf474

This also, Seriously does anyone at all think if Sony passed Microsoft they would not be screaming it from every rooftop they could find?

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#26 StrongDeadlift

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So for those who think the 360 is not in third place, please provide proofNationProtector

No. That is not how it works. The burden of proof is not on those to "prove" 360 ISNT last place. It is on those who believe otherwise to prove that it is.

As it stands, only one company has reported their numbers. The other has not. End of story.

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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="PS4TrumpsXbox1"] Actually I have proof that would deny RROD guy's whole explanation. He stated in March of 2013 ps3 sales were at 76.3 milion sales, there have been articles published in Dec of 2012 that states that number is 77 million (almost 1 million more than he stated in 3 months shorter time, so its obvious its assumptions (one thats way off it would seem)). http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/article/446107/idc_total_ps3_sales_top_xbox_360/PS4TrumpsXbox1

Your proof is some company that has no access to official numbers creating their own forcast?

I was only proving that the other guys guessing was just that guessing that was way off and the article says the estimation from IDC is in line from information released by both companies (Sony and MS) at the time the article was published. So the IDC estimations are probably more accurate than RROD's

Execept I based mine on SONY REPORTS. IDC couldn't find their own ass, so them predicting THE FUTURE (lmao) is not accurate at all.

What is there about my post you don't like? I've included a ton of facts (check them up if you want) as well as a few of my own conclusions based on facts.

If you have any other way to interpret Sonys numbers and the info they revealed in their official reports, be my guest.

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[QUOTE="PS4TrumpsXbox1"][QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="PS4TrumpsXbox1"] Lol really? Thats not proof but dumb lemming assumptions and guessing, try again

So provide your evidence to counter his then.

THere is none, and I dont have to for anyone to see he is assuming just cuz sony said they sold less than the previous year in his year to year breakdown. That doesnt serve as proof or show anything as no one knows how much less was sold

He was going by Sony's and MS's quarterly reports, not sure how those are not factual..

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#30 PS4TrumpsXbox1

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[QUOTE="PS4TrumpsXbox1"][QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]Your proof is some company that has no access to official numbers creating their own forcast?RR360DD

I was only proving that the other guys guessing was just that guessing that was way off and the article says the estimation from IDC is in line from information released by both companies (Sony and MS) at the time the article was published. So the IDC estimations are probably more accurate than RROD's

Execept I based mine on SONY REPORTS. IDC couldn't find their own ass, so them predicting THE FUTURE (lmao) is not accurate at all.

What is there about my post you don't like? I've included a ton of facts (check them up if you want) as well as a few of my own conclusions based on facts.

If you have any other way to interpret Sonys numbers and the info they revealed in their official reports, be my guest.

Yes, im sure you research factual information from sony fiscal year reports, but those reports didnt offer particular information for exact sales of ps3's in some of those fiscal years. And from that information that wasnt provided you just guessed and estimated what was not provided. So using the sony reports to justify your assumptions is a broken reasoning as you used your assumptions for information the reports did not provide. The IDC article stated it came up with those estimated based on information released by both companies at the time (so it may not be 100 percent accurate, it probably is somewhat accurate). And the fact that your assumptions were waaay off from IDC research, somethings is wrong there. Your saying 700,000 units less were sold in 4 months longer than what IDC reported from information published by both game companies. It's obvious your assumptions are some off lol

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[QUOTE="TheFlush"]360: 78.4 million Ps3: 79.1 million Source: http://www.vgchartz.com/ These are official worldwide sales numbers. 360 and ps3 sold about the same, the difference is negligibleblackace

LOL!! No. VGChartz numbers are way off for one. They are also including the PS2 sales from over the last 2-3 years. XBox 360 was at 78.2 back in June for worldwide sales. They are well over 79 million today.

What are you basing those ps2 sales on? Because the ps2 has it's own chart over there, why would they include those in the ps3 sales? http://www.vgchartz.com/analysis/platform_totals/

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We may never know! :(

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#33 DerekLoffin

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Just to repeat myself from the other thread...

FY11
PS3 sales - 13.9 million
PS2 sales - 4.1 million
FY12
PS3 / PS2 sales combined - 16.5 million
Sony states in the report that PS3, PSVita and PSP sales were down YoY. No mention of PS2 sales.
Not only does this indicate that the PS3 sold less than 13.9 million, but that the PS2 sold around 4.1 million again (They only stopped shipping it in the last quarter).
Therefore, the PS3 shipped around 12.4 million during FY12, giving it the grand total of 76.3 million (as of March 31st 2013). For reference, the 360 was at 77.2 million.
FY13 Q1
PS3 sales - 1.1 million
Sony state that revenues were flat. "PlayStation 3, 2 and PSP sales are all quoted as being down"
PS2 sales were down (obviously, they stopp shipping in Jan 2013). PS2 sales were not combined with PS3 sales.
Therefore .....
PS3 is currently at 77.4 million.
360 is at 78.2 million.
Hang in there cows, I'm sure it'll happen one day
RR360DD

Hey, that's not too bad, save one important thing. I just looked at the FY12 report and it never says the unit sales of PS3 were down. It says "Lower sales of PlayStation 3 hardware, due to a strategic price reduction, and of PlayStation 2, due to platform migration, lead to a decrease in sales in the game business." Now, if you interpret sales as unit sales, that makes no sense, and would contradict you that PS2 had no change. However, if you realize the entire thing is talking about the sales in dollars (revenue) in this entire section it makes sense but unfortunately that doesn't say anything as far as the unit sales goes.

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[QUOTE="PS4TrumpsXbox1"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]
FY11
PS3 sales - 13.9 million
PS2 sales - 4.1 million
FY12
PS3 / PS2 sales combined - 16.5 million
Sony states in the report that PS3, PSVita and PSP sales were down YoY. No mention of PS2 sales.
Not only does this indicate that the PS3 sold less than 13.9 million, but that the PS2 sold around 4.1 million again (They only stopped shipping it in the last quarter).
Therefore, the PS3 shipped around 12.4 million during FY12, giving it the grand total of 76.3 million (as of March 31st 2013). For reference, the 360 was at 77.2 million.
FY13 Q1
PS3 sales - 1.1 million
Sony state that revenues were flat. "PlayStation 3, 2 and PSP sales are all quoted as being down"
PS2 sales were down (obviously, they stopp shipping in Jan 2013). PS2 sales were not combined with PS3 sales.
Therefore .....
PS3 is currently at 77.4 million.
360 is at 78.2 million.
Hang in there cows, I'm sure it'll happen one day
clyde46

Lol really? Thats not proof but dumb lemming assumptions and guessing, try again

So provide your evidence to counter his then.

there was no evidence from the start lol

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[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="PS4TrumpsXbox1"][QUOTE="clyde46"] So provide your evidence to counter his then.

THere is none, and I dont have to for anyone to see he is assuming just cuz sony said they sold less than the previous year in his year to year breakdown. That doesnt serve as proof or show anything as no one knows how much less was sold

He was going by Sony's and MS's quarterly reports, not sure how those are not factual..

where is the quarterly reports? i dont see no link to back it up

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#36 CaseyWegner

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360: 78.4 million Ps3: 79.1 million Source: http://www.vgchartz.com/ These are official worldwide sales numbers. 360 and ps3 sold about the same, the difference is negligibleTheFlush

vgchartz? official?

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They are so damn close and the RROD and year headstart of the 360 make it the loser in my opinion. So close though, so who cares? 360 seems more popular to me, but that is cause I live in America where we all buy the crappiest console so we can play our crappy Call of Duty :( lol. Come on guys smarten up! :P

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#38 PS4TrumpsXbox1

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[QUOTE="stayhigh1"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="PS4TrumpsXbox1"] THere is none, and I dont have to for anyone to see he is assuming just cuz sony said they sold less than the previous year in his year to year breakdown. That doesnt serve as proof or show anything as no one knows how much less was sold

He was going by Sony's and MS's quarterly reports, not sure how those are not factual..

where is the quarterly reports? i dont see no link to back it up

How dense is this guy that said "he was going by Sony's and MS's quarterly reports, not sure how these are not factual"? I understand that RROD guy researched and probably found factual information from those reports but he made assumption under that the reports said PS3 sales sold under previous year on some of those reports and made estimations on PS3 sales based on that. HOw is guessing and assuming amount of sales that is not specifically given factual, OMG what an ignoramus lol

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What are you basing those ps2 sales on? Because the ps2 has it's own chart over there, why would they include those in the ps3 sales? http://www.vgchartz.com/analysis/platform_totals/TheFlush

Stop using VGChartz. Nothing about their tracking is "official." They update, after the fact.
PS2/PS3 shipments were combined from the beginning of FY'12, IIRC.

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There isn't any proof either way. Whoever swings their jock about reaching the 80 million milestone first will settle it.

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It's Wii in first place (I imagine that's what you left implicit in your title) and 360 in second, as far as sales go (which shouldn't really matter much for us, non-microsoft-action-holders). It has more console sales and nearly fifty million people shelling out a few dollars every month. Financially speaking, I wouldn't be surprised if the Xbox Live Gold factor pushed the revenue from the 360 above that of the Wii, despite the latter's absurd popularity/sales. That the 360 surpassed the PS3, in that matter, is a no-brainer.

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PS3: gamespot.com/news/ps3-overtakes-xbox-360-in-worldwide-shipments-report-6402214 technobuffalo.com/2013/01/14/playstation-3-overtakes-xbox-360-lifetime-global-sales/ As per System Wars rules, shipped units = units sold, but it doesn't matter because PS3 surpassed 360 in both shipped units and sales. Incoming butthurt by lems in 3..2...1

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#43 FLOPPAGE_50

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Can we make a rule?

Whoever uses VGchartz as a "source" gets banned.

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last gen, lol. Who still cares?

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#45 Phazevariance

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FY11
PS3 sales - 13.9 million
PS2 sales - 4.1 million
FY12
PS3 / PS2 sales combined - 16.5 million
Sony states in the report that PS3, PSVita and PSP sales were down YoY. No mention of PS2 sales.
Not only does this indicate that the PS3 sold less than 13.9 million, but that the PS2 sold around 4.1 million again (They only stopped shipping it in the last quarter).
Therefore, the PS3 shipped around 12.4 million during FY12, giving it the grand total of 76.3 million (as of March 31st 2013). For reference, the 360 was at 77.2 million.
FY13 Q1
PS3 sales - 1.1 million
Sony state that revenues were flat. "PlayStation 3, 2 and PSP sales are all quoted as being down"
PS2 sales were down (obviously, they stopp shipping in Jan 2013). PS2 sales were not combined with PS3 sales.
Therefore .....
PS3 is currently at 77.4 million.
360 is at 78.2 million.
Hang in there cows, I'm sure it'll happen one day
RR360DD

TCHBO

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#46 R3FURBISHED

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PS3
- 80.4 million
Wii
- 100.04 million
Xbox 360
- 78.2 million

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2nd place is the first loser lol.

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#48 ManatuBeard

Member since 2012 • 1121 Posts

We cant tell who wins by sales numbers alone. I think we need to conjugate total sales, worldwide reach and exclusive games.

So Sony wins... even if the sales numbers are very close, Sony is truly worldwide (MS cant really touch Asia), and Sony has more exclusives (with good ratings).

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[QUOTE="blackace"]
[QUOTE="TheFlush"]360: 78.4 million Ps3: 79.1 million Source: http://www.vgchartz.com/ These are official worldwide sales numbers. 360 and ps3 sold about the same, the difference is negligibleTheFlush

LOL!! No. VGChartz numbers are way off for one. They are also including the PS2 sales from over the last 2-3 years. XBox 360 was at 78.2 back in June for worldwide sales. They are well over 79 million today.

What are you basing those ps2 sales on? Because the ps2 has it's own chart over there, why would they include those in the ps3 sales? http://www.vgchartz.com/analysis/platform_totals/

LOL VGChartz :lol:

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Member since 2013 • 116 Posts

You can spin it however you want but Sony lost a lot of market share. They lost this round.

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