Whose more hardcore at shooting games? Console or PC gamers?

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#1 Second_Hokage
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I mean pc gamers have the precision with the mouse, but console gamers have an easier control setup, but which one dominates more?
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#2 freedomfreak
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Remember people,being more "hardcore" at shooting games is not a good thing.

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#3 deactivated-598fc45371265
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Xbox because of Halo and Gears of War.

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#4 Firebird-5
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im soooooooooooooooooooooo hardcore Xx420xX 360 noscope quikskope MLG pros only
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#6 Kinthalis
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You'll have to define what you mean by "more hardcore".

The FPS was born on the PC. And the competitive side is fairly dominated by PC. the only place I've seen competitive console FPS taken seriously is in MLG, and lol, that got relegated to a smaller stage once they started running Starcraft 2 competitions.

Also PC gamers are spread out among various types of PC FPS's. From Team to solo gameplay, from coutner strike to Team Fortress 2.

Consoles have... call of duty and that's pretty much it.

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#7 pelvist
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You'll have to define what you mean by "more hardcore".

The FPS was born on the PC. And the competitive side is fairly dominated by PC. the only place I've seen competitive console FPS taken seriously is in MLG, and lol, that got relegated to a smaller stage once they started running Starcraft 2 competitions.

Also PC gamers are spread out among various types of PC FPS's. From Team to solo gameplay, from coutner strike to Team Fortress 2.

Consoles have... call of duty and that's pretty much it.

Kinthalis

Dont forget Halo! :lol:

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#8 kraken2109
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Love to see this on console.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwJls5n5UJ8&feature=plcp&context=C4366bf4VDvjVQa1PpcFNS3V954cm5eqrjqC3ZGZzeyT6YUoUJSiA%3D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNKfPHLPm5I

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#9 tjricardo089
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Counter-Strike, Quake, Half-Life, Doom.. shall I go on?

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#10 moose_knuckler
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Counter-Strike, Quake, Half-Life, Doom.. shall I go on?

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All of those franchises you named will have been on consoles at least once after Global Offensive arrives.
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#11 Wasdie  Moderator
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"hardcore" - lol

I would say that this gen we see a larger amount of console players playing FPSs a lot more dedicated. CoD has an amazingly fanatic playerbase.

The PC's more competitive FPSs have been dying out with nothing there to replace them.

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#12 Riverwolf007
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yo i'm teh hard to the cor3 brah. you dun want none o dis 1337bbq!!11!!

:lol:

oh man how i giggle like a schoolgirl everytime i hear some nerd say hardcore! :lol: :lol: :lol:

why don't you just hang a sign around your neck saying socially awwwk waaaaard.

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*Who's
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#14 arto1223
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CS on PC, TF2 on PC, Battlefield on PC, Quake and Unreal both on PC. PC for sure. Clearly there are different definitions of what 'hardcore' is and clearly their will be some very dedicated console players, but PC overall has more dedication.

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#15 Jankarcop
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[QUOTE="tjricardo089"]

Counter-Strike, Quake, Half-Life, Doom.. shall I go on?

moose_knuckler

All of those franchises you named will have been on consoles at least once after Global Offensive arrives.

And all are extremely competative on PC, while nearly forgotten on console :|

No console game, much less an fps, is currently as competative as QuakeLive or CS.

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#16 PC4lifeman2233
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Halo is the only competitive FPS on console I can think of.
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#17 lamprey263
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I think that's really up to the player not the system they play on... though people can really customize their gaming experience better on PCs if they wanted, like adding multiple screens, they can even buy those silly gadgets like the vest that lets you feel like you get hit or maybe that smell device I heard about a while back, my friend was telling me he's part of some group that plays their mech games in these simulator booths... so I guess the PC has an edge in the hardcore section for really nerding it up, but that's really up to the PC player and not the fact that they play on a PC
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#18 NirdBerd
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Halo is the only competitive FPS on console I can think of. PC4lifeman2233

Lolwut?

There's no such thing as a competitive FPS on console, when there is such a mechanic that assists your bad aim.

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http://www.techspot.com/news/39738-microsoft-killed-cross-platform-project-because-pc-gamers-wrecked-console-gamers.html

Microsoft killed cross-platform project because PC gamers wrecked console gamers

PC gamers have long mocked the use of handheld controllers as an input method for shooters and other genres that require fast, precise actions. Apparently, that attitude isn't unwarranted,based on blog post by the founder of Voodoo PC and current CTO of HP's gaming division, Rahul Sood.

According to Sood's sources, "many many months ago," Microsoft set out on a Xbox Live project that would let PC and console users interact on some form of united multiplayer platform – a grand idea on paper. In practice however, it's said that PC gamers "destroyed" console players every time.


The slaughter was so bad, Sood says that Microsoft even pitted "mediocre" PC gamers against "the best" console gamers in testing, and the results were unchanged: the keyboard and mouse prevailed. It's not clear what titles were played, but Unreal and Gears of War are mentioned.


Displeased with its findings, Microsoft supposedly cancelled the project to spare its Xbox team and players the embarrassment. I think most of us can agree a keyboard and mouse is more precise, but what do you prefer and why? Feel free to preach the virtues of your input device in the comments.

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#20 vtoshkatur
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LOL!!!! How is this even a question TC??????? PC wins by a landslide.

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#21 dracolich55
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"hardcore" - lol

I would say that this gen we see a larger amount of console players playing FPSs a lot more dedicated. CoD has an amazingly fanatic playerbase.

The PC's more competitive FPSs have been dying out with nothing there to replace them.

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BF3 was supposed to be there savior, look how THAT turned out...
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#22 vtoshkatur
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Xbox because of Halo and Gears of War.

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#24 lamprey263
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keyboard and mouse is more precise but on consoles everyone is using a controller so they're pretty equal with exception to their skill they bring into an MP match, this really only matters competitively for shooters if I were to play a shooter on a PC maybe I would opt for a controller, just to relax, they're good enough when playing solo, unless it was something like an RTS in which case of course I'd use keyboard and mouse
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#25 Chrome-
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PC of course what a silly question ;)
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#26 wewantdoom4now
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aim assist pwns

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#27 lowe0
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aim assist pwns

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Yeah, maybe it was a good idea ten years ago, but it's time to kill off aim assist on consoles. We've figured out how to play by now.
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#28 lightleggy
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I mean pc gamers have the precision with the mouse, but console gamers have an easier control setup, but which one dominates more?Second_Hokage
uhm thats bullsh*t. PCs have a much superior button layout, with much more situational awareness than a puny controller.
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Go watch some old Quake frag videos sometime. I don't think anyone would be able to pull off all those crazy twitch shots without a computer mouse. (Funny thing is, Quake III Arena on Dreamcast supported KB+M input, just like Unreal Tournament and Half-Life on DC and PS2, yet modern cross-platform FPSs on consoles don't.) As for hardcore FPSs, on the unrealistic end of the scale, there's Quake III Arena and Unreal Tournament. On the other end, there's Red Orchestra and Operation Flashpoint/ArmA. All on PC, of course, with the occasional console port.
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#30 NoodleFighter
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PC Gave birth to Arena/Twitch Shooters end......

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#31 Masenkoe
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>Consoles

>Hardcore

>ever

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#32 sethman410
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PC by far.
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#33 eNT1TY
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I reckon it takes a good deal of skill to be competitive with a controller that lacks the precision and speed of a mouse and k/b. Halo like it or not IS pretty hardcore, more so than a good chunk of pc fps's that aren't cs, quake, or unreal and even then its not trailing too far behind. It is expected to perform well with a kb/mouse but if you can do similar with a less ideal input that takes skill.
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#34 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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PC has:

Counter Strike Source

Quake 3.

We automatically win

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ps3

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#36 ih4tefanboys
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"hardcore" - lol

I would say that this gen we see a larger amount of console players playing FPSs a lot more dedicated. CoD has an amazingly fanatic playerbase.

The PC's more competitive FPSs have been dying out with nothing there to replace them.

Wasdie

We get it it Wasdie, you have been trolling around and pretending to be on the consolites side, you are not doing good enough :P

You know and We all know that, kissing up to console fanboys won't get you anything.

No matter what anyone says... PC clearly owns all, and this is a FACT.

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#37 goblaa
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PC>Wii>Console

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#38 mysticstryk
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I mean pc gamers have the precision with the mouse, but console gamers have an easier control setup, but which one dominates more?Second_Hokage

Which is more hardcore? :lol:

PC gamers would dominate console gamers because of the precision with the mouse though.

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#39 campzor
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console gamers dont have an easier control setup...wtf u on about? PC gamers have cs... thus why they are superior to us console only peasants
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#40 Am_Confucius
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PC, duh.

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#41 DaBrainz
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I dont know what you mean by hardcore but there is a huge drop of in skill level when going from PC to consoles. I usually can get pretty high in the leader boards on console shooters but I'm very noobish when I play PC shooters.
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#42 tenaka2
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There are no hardcore console shooters.

Hardcore + autoaim = impossible.

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#43 Sali217
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None of it, it's all flawed. I don't know why PC gamers always act like k/b+m is anything like an accurate portrayal of firing a gun. Seriously, go fire one, it's nothing alike at all. Neither set up is.
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None of it, it's all flawed. I don't know why PC gamers always act like k/b+m is anything like an accurate portrayal of firing a gun. Seriously, go fire one, it's nothing alike at all. Neither set up is.Sali217
This isn't a discussion about realism. We're talking about which community is more hardcore and competitive. Generic FPS=/=Realism anyway.
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#45 Bowelss
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I dont know what you mean by hardcore but there is a huge drop of in skill level when going from PC to consoles. I usually can get pretty high in the leader boards on console shooters but I'm very noobish when I play PC shooters.DaBrainz

This depends on the game. BF3, the competetion is obviously much better on PC. CoD, I really don't see a huge disparity in skill level. You run across lobbies full of turrible players 8-9/10 times on every platform in that game. I actually am best (statistically) on PC for MW3.

Anyways, a great FPS player won't go from dominating on consoles to getting pooped on on PC, so I'm calling BS on being near the top of the LB's on one platform and being "noobish" on the other, unless you are just that terrible with KB/M.

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[QUOTE="DaBrainz"]I dont know what you mean by hardcore but there is a huge drop of in skill level when going from PC to consoles. I usually can get pretty high in the leader boards on console shooters but I'm very noobish when I play PC shooters.Bowelss

This depends on the game. BF3, the competetion is obviously much better on PC. CoD, I really don't see a huge disparity in skill level. You run across lobbies full of turrible players 8-9/10 times on every platform in that game. I actually am best (statistically) on PC for MW3.

Anyways, a great FPS player won't go from dominating on consoles to getting pooped on on PC, so I'm calling BS on being near the top of the LB's on one platform and being "noobish" on the other, unless you are just that terrible with KB/M.

My skill level doesn't change when I change platform, the competition does. Console gamers are easier to kill. Thats a fact jack.
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#47 Sali217
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[QUOTE="Sali217"]None of it, it's all flawed. I don't know why PC gamers always act like k/b+m is anything like an accurate portrayal of firing a gun. Seriously, go fire one, it's nothing alike at all. Neither set up is.PC4lifeman2233
This isn't a discussion about realism. We're talking about which community is more hardcore and competitive. Generic FPS=/=Realism anyway.

Well if not "realism" what are we basing "hardcorism" on? in racing games we talk about physics engines. I guess my answer is people who play FPS with motion controls. I believe zapper light guns were actually first on the scene for a first person shooting perspective.
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#48 Chutebox
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this thread just screams "loser!"

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#49 Bowelss
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[QUOTE="Bowelss"]

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"]I dont know what you mean by hardcore but there is a huge drop of in skill level when going from PC to consoles. I usually can get pretty high in the leader boards on console shooters but I'm very noobish when I play PC shooters.DaBrainz

This depends on the game. BF3, the competetion is obviously much better on PC. CoD, I really don't see a huge disparity in skill level. You run across lobbies full of turrible players 8-9/10 times on every platform in that game. I actually am best (statistically) on PC for MW3.

Anyways, a great FPS player won't go from dominating on consoles to getting pooped on on PC, so I'm calling BS on being near the top of the LB's on one platform and being "noobish" on the other, unless you are just that terrible with KB/M.

My skill level doesn't change when I change platform, the competition does. Console gamers are easier to kill. Thats a fact jack.

I don't doubt that your skill level doesn't change, I was basically just calling you a liar (top of the leaderboards on console>noobish on PC, mhmm). I play on both, so I know how much you were exaggerating... the PC does have better competition, but you won't go from a 5 k/d to a .5 k/d player, 10 w/l to 1 w/l or a 800 spm to 200 spm player, etc like some of you try to claim.

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#50 PC4lifeman2233
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[QUOTE="PC4lifeman2233"][QUOTE="Sali217"]None of it, it's all flawed. I don't know why PC gamers always act like k/b+m is anything like an accurate portrayal of firing a gun. Seriously, go fire one, it's nothing alike at all. Neither set up is.Sali217
This isn't a discussion about realism. We're talking about which community is more hardcore and competitive. Generic FPS=/=Realism anyway.

Well if not "realism" what are we basing "hardcorism" on? in racing games we talk about physics engines. I guess my answer is people who play FPS with motion controls. I believe zapper light guns were actually first on the scene for a first person shooting perspective.

hurr durr? Hardcore as in learning curve, skill ceiling, and how competitive the community is.