Why 360 gta4 gets the episodic content and ps3 doesn't

Because MS will make a profit. Think about it they paid $25 mil a piece for both episodes. Say they only charge 800ms points ($10) an episode (I think it will be 1200 or $15) and 3 million live subscribers purchase it. Do the math. $30 mil. That's with using low figures 10 bucks and 3 million purchasers. This is why we pay for live. That 20 cents a day doesn't seem so harsh now does it?

Because MS will make a profit. Think about it they paid $25 mil a piece for both episodes. Say they only charge 800ms points ($10) an episode (I think it will be 1200 or $15) and 3 million live subscribers purchase it. Do the math. $30 mil. That's with using low figures 10 bucks and 3 million purchasers. This is why we pay for live. That 20 cents a day doesn't seem so harsh now does it?

rocafelon1001

Lol, you pay for XBL and you pay for extra content too? What a rip-off :D Good thing that PC gamers don't have to pay for extra content and for the internet service.

PS3 get content aswel i thinkmrboo15

No. It's exclusive.

[QUOTE="rocafelon1001"]

Because MS will make a profit. Think about it they paid $25 mil a piece for both episodes. Say they only charge 800ms points ($10) an episode (I think it will be 1200 or $15) and 3 million live subscribers purchase it. Do the math. $30 mil. That's with using low figures 10 bucks and 3 million purchasers. This is why we pay for live. That 20 cents a day doesn't seem so harsh now does it?

Supafly1

Lol, you pay for XBL and you pay for extra content too? What a rip-off :D Good thing that PC gamers don't have to pay for extra content and for the internet service.

Uhhh....last I checked a good internet connection does cost some money.....

[QUOTE="mrboo15"]PS3 get content aswel i thinkrocafelon1001

No. It's exclusive.

There is no such word when $ gets involved.

[QUOTE="mrboo15"]PS3 get content aswel i thinkrocafelon1001

No. It's exclusive.

Or is it because all 360 owners have a HDD with their console? The fact is when it comes down to it, eventually PS3 will be getting content as well, just at a later date. Theres nothing really boast about in this fact. You pay 50$ for a service that might be overcomed by Home or the new Wii service which are both for free. Besides the fact that most PC gaming is already, there isn't much advantage to Live over the other services.

They may not make all $50 Million back, but they'll make a good amount back and people who have both 360 and PS3 will get 360, plus it'll help sell consoles when people hear 360 version is better.

lol i find it funny how the OP thinks that 5 million people will download the eposodic content and the if Take-2 charge $10 that M$ gets 100% of the $$ ...

Lets see i assume Take-2 will want 25% of the price charged ($2.50) and the server cost will be ($0.50) ... Soo ...

Lets see Microsoft gets $7 per eposode of content.
they paid $50 million for 2 eposodes to be exclusive ...
and you think that 7.14 total or approx 3.55 copies of each eposode will be sold ... so what 65% of users with live will buy both eposodes ....

Truth is mate that Microsoft just wanted to claim GTA IV is better on 360 -- and they payed for it ...
choasgod

They paid 50 million and own the content that Rockstar will be making for the episodic content and get 100% of the profit.

"Typically, Microsoft and third-party publishers split the revenue generated when players download games from Xbox Live. Games usually cost $10 or less, but Microsoft could charge $20 or more for the additional Grand Theft Auto IV episodes, depending on how many hours of playing time they offer. So the $50 million for Take-Two appears to be a sort of advance on royalties."

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/20/arts/20vide.html?ex=1183176000&en=0bc2554399858539&ei=5070

"Typically, Microsoft and third-party publishers split the revenue generated when players download games from Xbox Live. Games usually cost $10 or less, but Microsoft could charge $20 or more for the additional Grand Theft Auto IV episodes, depending on how many hours of playing time they offer. So the $50 million for Take-Two appears to be a sort of advance on royalties."

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/20/arts/20vide.html?ex=1183176000&en=0bc2554399858539&ei=5070

heretrix

So am I right in believing Microsoft gets 100% of the money from the content?

yes ALL live users will buy it, that is maths for yahongkingkong

No PS3 users will buy it, that is "maths" for ya

[QUOTE="choasgod"]lol i find it funny how the OP thinks that 5 million people will download the eposodic content and the if Take-2 charge $10 that M$ gets 100% of the $$ ...

Lets see i assume Take-2 will want 25% of the price charged ($2.50) and the server cost will be ($0.50) ... Soo ...

Lets see Microsoft gets $7 per eposode of content.
they paid $50 million for 2 eposodes to be exclusive ...
and you think that 7.14 total or approx 3.55 copies of each eposode will be sold ... so what 65% of users with live will buy both eposodes ....

Truth is mate that Microsoft just wanted to claim GTA IV is better on 360 -- and they payed for it ...
wmc540

They paid 50 million and own the content that Rockstar will be making for the episodic content and get 100% of the profit.

Ms dont lose a dime in this deal, If they dont make their $50 million back then R* have to pay the diffrence and if they do then i assume that both will start to make some money with most of it going to R*.

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

"Typically, Microsoft and third-party publishers split the revenue generated when players download games from Xbox Live. Games usually cost $10 or less, but Microsoft could charge $20 or more for the additional Grand Theft Auto IV episodes, depending on how many hours of playing time they offer. So the $50 million for Take-Two appears to be a sort of advance on royalties."

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/20/arts/20vide.html?ex=1183176000&en=0bc2554399858539&ei=5070

wmc540

So am I right in believing Microsoft gets 100% of the money from the content?

[QUOTE="Supafly1"][QUOTE="rocafelon1001"]

Because MS will make a profit. Think about it they paid $25 mil a piece for both episodes. Say they only charge 800ms points ($10) an episode (I think it will be 1200 or $15) and 3 million live subscribers purchase it. Do the math. $30 mil. That's with using low figures 10 bucks and 3 million purchasers. This is why we pay for live. That 20 cents a day doesn't seem so harsh now does it?

rocafelon1001

Lol, you pay for XBL and you pay for extra content too? What a rip-off :D Good thing that PC gamers don't have to pay for extra content and for the internet service.

Uhhh....last I checked a good internet connection does cost some money.....

i guest that is extra money that lemmings has to spend

[QUOTE="rocafelon1001"][QUOTE="Supafly1"][QUOTE="rocafelon1001"]

Because MS will make a profit. Think about it they paid $25 mil a piece for both episodes. Say they only charge 800ms points ($10) an episode (I think it will be 1200 or $15) and 3 million live subscribers purchase it. Do the math. $30 mil. That's with using low figures 10 bucks and 3 million purchasers. This is why we pay for live. That 20 cents a day doesn't seem so harsh now does it?

double-r

Lol, you pay for XBL and you pay for extra content too? What a rip-off :D Good thing that PC gamers don't have to pay for extra content and for the internet service.

Uhhh....last I checked a good internet connection does cost some money.....

Can't Microsoft just do this -

Silver memebership - can't play games online, must pay for extra content, can watch and download demos./Chat with friends...

Gold Memebership - Play games online, Donwload the contents like GTA Packs for FREE!! Since they are paying already. Also make some content exclusive to gold memebers only. And last but not least....Lower the price for XBL!!!!.....

[QUOTE="rocafelon1001"]

Because MS will make a profit. Think about it they paid $25 mil a piece for both episodes. Say they only charge 800ms points ($10) an episode (I think it will be 1200 or $15) and 3 million live subscribers purchase it. Do the math. $30 mil. That's with using low figures 10 bucks and 3 million purchasers. This is why we pay for live. That 20 cents a day doesn't seem so harsh now does it?

Supafly1

Lol, you pay for XBL and you pay for extra content too? What a rip-off :D Good thing that PC gamers don't have to pay for extra content and for the internet service.

Xfire ftw..... GTAIV will feature tons of microtransactions, I can see it already, as MS needs to recoup their investment some way or another. It started with horse armor and now this. It's one thing to have expansion packs with new content, but to also pay for a P2P service and then for microtransactions on top of that is pathetic. Just about every non-MS affliated journalist will commments about this too.

lol silver account. enjoy playing halo 3 online on your silver account (since thats all lemmings bragged about last gen with halo 2)

I think it was a no brainer fro MS. Take 2 has to repay the 'loan' if it doesn't meet certain criteria for sales. What does MS have to loose?Heil68

Very few people in this thread seem to realize this.

Because MS will make a profit. Think about it they paid $25 mil a piece for both episodes. Say they only charge 800ms points ($10) an episode (I think it will be 1200 or $15) and 3 million live subscribers purchase it. Do the math. $30 mil. That's with using low figures 10 bucks and 3 million purchasers. This is why we pay for live. That 20 cents a day doesn't seem so harsh now does it?

rocafelon1001

lol. Three million live subscribers aren't going to buy it. It's not going to push very many consoles either. If Microsoft was smart they would have put the budget into a new franchise or something. That would've sold way more consoles than exclusive content for one game. Nobody's going to buy the 360 solely for the exclusive content for GTA IV. Saying that three million people are going to buy the content is very optimistic. It's not going to happen.

Can't Microsoft just do this -

Silver memebership - can't play games online, must pay for extra content, can watch and download demos./Chat with friends...

Gold Memebership - Play games online, Donwload the contents like GTA Packs for FREE!! Since they are paying already. Also make some content exclusive to gold memebers only. And last but not least....Lower the price for XBL!!!!.....

Hermitkermit

Instead of paying $50 million for these episodes, MS should have paid to fix their hardware.

I can't take them serious anymore because they seem to ignore the major problem they have.....it's NEVER been software, it's been the reliablity of their hardware. Yet here is another instance where they are willing to spend hand over fist for software but you hear NOTHING about them fixing the hardware.

Instead of paying $50 million for these episodes, MS should have paid to fix their hardware.

I can't take them serious anymore because they seem to ignore the major problem they have.....it's NEVER been software, it's been the reliablity of their hardware. Yet here is another instance where they are willing to spend hand over fist for software but you hear NOTHING about them fixing the hardware.

darthogre

[QUOTE="rocafelon1001"]

[QUOTE="mrboo15"]PS3 get content aswel i thinkRagashahs

No. It's exclusive.

If the ps3 version does get anything it won't be until 2009,the first episode on the 360 is launching in Q1 the second one Q3-Q4.I wouldn't expect the ps3 version to get anything in terms of new episodes,butmaybe new costumes ect.

PS3 get content aswel i thinkmrboo15

here's a piece of advise kid: don't make up things even you don't believe

[QUOTE="mrboo15"]PS3 get content aswel i thinkgamergeekgeek

here's a piece of advise kid: don't make up things even you don't believe

they need to believe it...you know them! they believe anything..sony blantently lie to them over and over and they lap it up

[QUOTE="rocafelon1001"]

Because MS will make a profit. Think about it they paid $25 mil a piece for both episodes. Say they only charge 800ms points ($10) an episode (I think it will be 1200 or $15) and 3 million live subscribers purchase it. Do the math. $30 mil. That's with using low figures 10 bucks and 3 million purchasers. This is why we pay for live. That 20 cents a day doesn't seem so harsh now does it?

dewmandew7

lol. Three million live subscribers aren't going to buy it. It's not going to push very many consoles either. If Microsoft was smart they would have put the budget into a new franchise or something. That would've sold way more consoles than exclusive content for one game. Nobody's going to buy the 360 solely for the exclusive content for GTA IV. Saying that three million people are going to buy the content is very optimistic. It's not going to happen.

Oh really Nostradamus? Just like gta3 didn't sell ps2's? I suppose it won't sell ps3's either then. GTA is a huge critically acclaimed series. Just as big if not bigger than the likes of Halo and MGS, perhaps just as big as FF in the states. But to think a monster that is gta won't sell systems is plain retarded. When the masses (casuals included) who don't have a next gen system yetrealize the next gta is comming out and how great it looks they're gonna look at the ps3 (600) 360 (400 with exclusive content)it doesn't take a rocket scientist to make the obvious choice.