why all the far cry 2 hate?

its worth getting just for the map editiorlm2f

Respawning enemies and too much focus on the little details. I don't care about watching myself pull a bullet out of my leg when the voice acting is terribleandtheytalkreallyfast.

what? no one is even there to play on your maps, and the editor isn't even that advanced. sandbox 2.0 is much better

as for the sp, fc2 is just WAY too repetitive. I'm just glad i didn't have to pay for it, it came with my gtx 260

Because the whole game is lame and unfun, including the map editor.

i dont think they hate it :|

its more that they dont like it so much as other games !

Because traveling in that game makes you want to track down the game developers and run them off the road every five minutes?Vandalvideo

I cannot understand why everybody hates the driving in this game so much... I mean, I can understand all the complaints about the "antiquated" gunplay, the repetetive missions, respawning enemies, etc. but I just don't get why people hate the driving so much. You can drive from one corner of the map to the other in 5 minutes, and you can avoid almost every single checkpoint/enemy on the way...

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Because traveling in that game makes you want to track down the game developers and run them off the road every five minutes?MetroidPrimePwn

I cannot understand why everybody hates the driving in this game so much... I mean, I can understand all the complaints about the "antiquated" gunplay, the repetetive missions, respawning enemies, etc. but I just don't get why people hate the driving so much. You can drive from one corner of the map to the other in 5 minutes, and you can avoid almost every single checkpoint/enemy on the way...

There is nothing about it that's even close to resembling any sort of fun. When you're not asking yourself if you're there yet you want to punch your screen in the face, hoping Ubisoft feels it. Buses help somewhat.

only thing i hate is the respawning enemy posts, and the constant random attacks, and too much driving, other than that, the game is awesome. I think most people have become used to linear, "COD4" type shooters, so when you play far cry 2, its going to seem boring. I think that if it had a fast travel system like fallout 3, where once you visit an area, you can fast travel close to it, but not actually there, then the game would be more accessable to everybody. Either that, or they shouldve added some RPG elements so your guy can level up or something, then it would make the slow pace make sense.navyguy21

• add a faction system where as you earn respect for the two factions you get various favors and upgrades. Like their jeep patrols not running you down for instance.
• Not have jeep patrols popping up in your face all the time "for variety" when in fact the only they accomplish is ruin the sense of exploration and the ability for you to do things at your own pace. And after the 15th jeep it doesn't feel varied at all.
• Outposts you could overtake for whatever faction, or bribe, or whatever. It makes zero sense how they relentlessly try to kill you as soon as they see your assault jeep closing in.
• Add civilians. After the introduction they all just mysteriously disappear.
• Instead it's just these two "warring" factions. Could be one faction for all you care, they all drive around in jeeps and they're all trying to kill you, and only you. Make it look like there is a bloody conflict going on.
• And actually make two distinct factions, then have the faction that respects you the most not try to kill you all the time. Maybe they could even come and help you out once you've earned enough respect.
• As for the driving. You have a cellphone. Worked pretty well in GTAIV. Whenever the hell you're in the vicinity of a mission, call up the guy or have the guy call you up with a briefing, instead of you having to drive all the way over to his lazy ass all the time. Maybe present you with several missions at once so you get to pick the one closest to you. Also, have the objectives placed more closely together.
• And if that's not enough, fast travel.

Why do you guys hate driving? You could just take a bus you know. Or walk. Mario2007

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]

I cannot understand why everybody hates the driving in this game so much... I mean, I can understand all the complaints about the "antiquated" gunplay, the repetetive missions, respawning enemies, etc. but I just don't get why people hate the driving so much. You can drive from one corner of the map to the other in 5 minutes, and you can avoid almost every single checkpoint/enemy on the way...

InsaneBasura

There is nothing about it that's even close to resembling any sort of fun. When you're not asking yourself if you're there yet you want to punch your screen in the face, hoping Ubisoft feels it. Buses help somewhat.

only thing i hate is the respawning enemy posts, and the constant random attacks, and too much driving, other than that, the game is awesome. I think most people have become used to linear, "COD4" type shooters, so when you play far cry 2, its going to seem boring. I think that if it had a fast travel system like fallout 3, where once you visit an area, you can fast travel close to it, but not actually there, then the game would be more accessable to everybody. Either that, or they shouldve added some RPG elements so your guy can level up or something, then it would make the slow pace make sense.navyguy21

• add a faction system where as you earn respect for the two factions you get various favors and upgrades. Like their jeep patrols not running you down for instance.
• Not have jeep patrols popping up in your face all the time "for variety" when in fact the only they accomplish is ruin the sense of exploration and the ability for you to do things at your own pace. And after the 15th jeep it doesn't feel varied at all.
• Outposts you could overtake for whatever faction, or bribe, or whatever. It makes zero sense how they relentlessly try to kill you as soon as they see your assault jeep closing in.
• Add civilians. After the introduction they all just mysteriously disappear.
• Instead it's just these two "warring" factions. Could be one faction for all you care, they all drive around in jeeps and they're all trying to kill you, and only you. Make it look like there is a bloody conflict going on.
• And actually make two distinct factions, then have the faction that respects you the most not try to kill you all the time. Maybe they could even come and help you out once you've earned enough respect.
• As for the driving. You have a cellphone. Worked pretty well in GTAIV. Whenever the hell you're in the vicinity of a mission, call up the guy or have the guy call you up with a briefing, instead of you having to drive all the way over to his lazy ass all the time. Maybe present you with several missions at once so you get to pick the one closest to you. Also, have the objectives placed more closely together.
• And if that's not enough, fast travel.

you shouldnt be playing if you need to drive from one side of the map to the other, and instead of being attacked would you like if better if there isnt a soul to be seen for 2 miles and the guard posts are all empty?

which is not even that much drivinglm2f

[QUOTE="lm2f"]its worth getting just for the map editiorPanther501

Because traveling in that game makes you want to track down the game developers and run them off the road every five minutes?Vandalvideo

you shouldnt be playing if you need to drive from one side of the map to the other, and instead of being attacked would you like if better if there isnt a soul to be seen for 2 miles and the guard posts are all empty?

lm2f

It doesn't matter whether you have to drive from one end of the map to the other or not. No matter what you will be driving a lot and for long distances in Far Cry 2, and it is not fun for the reasons I mentioned and you chose to ignore.

Unlike what you seem to believe, it's not having enemies constantly shoved in your face, or no enemies at all. It is possible to have a middle ground there, other shooters and open world games have proven this. These aren't enemies which you seek out, they come hunting for you, They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And they absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead. That is the problem, not that they're there. That and they are not entertaining encounters that spice up the gameplay, they're repetitive annoyances which ruin the pacing and grow increasingly boring and frustrating. The jeep patrols in particular. Outposts can be dealt with differently, but rarely are as you're on your way to somewhere and these things are in the way.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Because traveling in that game makes you want to track down the game developers and run them off the road every five minutes?imprezawrx500

GTAIV would surely be a bit designed like ass too if you had a cop car appearing out of nowhere every three minutes, ramming into you and trying to kill you, shooting out your tyres so you had to stop and steal a new car. And a roadblock once every mile. For no reason whatsoever. And don't give me the "realism, it's a war zone" bs. This is a game. The realism card wouldn't work anyway. I think I mentioned the "you're driving the same jeep as the bloody factions, so why the hell would they fire on sight?" thing somewhere already. Then there's the fact that there is no actual war in this supposed war zone.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Because traveling in that game makes you want to track down the game developers and run them off the road every five minutes?imprezawrx500

Stalker had a gigantic world, no vehicles, and it still wasn't boring to walk.

Why?

Because GSC have talent. Stalker feels like a game made by true artists that have no idea how to program software, while FC2 feels like a game made by engineers that have no idea how to make something fun.

FC2 = ACreed with gunsswazidoughman

Am I the only one that enjoyed the game?

I like it, put a lot of time into the single player. It has some very annoying respawning enemies, and you travel around far to much in cars, but I love sniping people in the long grass and setting fire to crap. Online is ok, could be better, could be worse.

Overall I think it's a very solid 8/10. It has problems but they're not enough to ruin the game, but they shouldn't have been there in the first place, game could have been fantastic without them. The African setting is one of the best game worlds I've ever seen.