Why all the hate for PC gamers.

I don't understand it at all. Since when has PC gaming ever been in trouble of dieing? In fact if not for PC gaming gaming as a whole would have died back in the late 70s early 80s. You owe PC gaming alot and you don't even know it.

It can't be the price, because I know for a fact $600 is all you need to build a good mid range gaming pc. Maybe even less.

Or maybe it's the fact you think building a PC is hard, well it isn't. The hardest part is waiting for windows to install.

Can someone please explain to me why everyone is hating on PC gaming, when it's by far the best gaming platform.

because people like to show off things they invested alot of money into, and no one like a show off

Most of the anti-PC fanboys on here are from the US. I don't know about UK or the rest of the world, but PC gaming is more expensive and more complicated than consoles, which is why majority in the states tend to get consoles.

Thats one of the reasons I haven't joined PC gaming, im too lazy to have to worry about all that stuff. Sure it might be worth it, but I don't want to go through the hassle.

because people like to show off things they invested alot of money into, and no one like a show off

StrayMBlasTER

Pretty much. There are also some pretty big arrogant prick hermits out there. Most are ok but those select few drag them down somewhat. Much like there are some pretty bad Cows, Sheep and Lemmings

Most of the anti-PC fanboys on here are from the US. I don't know about UK or the rest of the world, but PC gaming is more expensive and more complicated than consoles, which is why majority in the states tend to get consoles.

Thats one of the reasons I haven't joined PC gaming, im too lazy to have to worry about all that stuff. Sure it might be worth it, but I don't want to go through the hassle.

xDonRobx

pc gaming is cheaper where i live, a wii retails for around 600 american dollars here

I don't understand it at all. Since when has PC gaming ever been in trouble of dieing? In fact if not for PC gaming gaming as a whole would have died back in the late 70s early 80s. You owe PC gaming alot and you don't even know it.

It can't be the price, because I know for a fact $600 is all you need to build a good mid range gaming pc. Maybe even less.

Or maybe it's the fact you think building a PC is hard, well it isn't. The hardest part is waiting for windows to install.

Can someone please explain to me why everyone is hating on PC gaming, when it's by far the best gaming platform.

nmaharg

because PC gamers say stuff like that.

people just can't accept that some people simply don't like gaming on their computers.

Christ, you pretty much summed up the typical elitist PC gamer right there.

"It is the best gaming platform - fact"

"It's easy to build your own good gaming PC for under $600" - I mean wtf is that. Are you a retard?

You wonder why people despise this attitude?

PS. I'm a PC gamer

mmogoon

Nothing I said was false.

PC gamers feel they are the end of all gaming. They have no respect for the consoles they grew up playing. They think they have a good reason to upgrade and everyone else should follow or you are not a HARDCORE , DEVOTED GAMER.

I only base this on what I read every day.

Consoles have been mainstream for many many many years and will continue with this as they are more user friendly and more family oriented and you get the added benefit of playing with real friends instead of only online.

People should give props and respect to where they come from.

Sure console games are created on PC, but from there is where they take over....Pc gaming is fun and I have spent my time playing a couple of them...BUT..IN NO WAY will I ever go total PC for my games.

My rig was just under $600 and I run crysis damn near max.nmaharg

Specs?

[QUOTE="nmaharg"] My rig was just under $600 and I run crysis damn near max.mmogoon

Specs?

e2140 @ 3.2ghz

2 gb ddr 800 ram

8800 gt

yada yada yada

[QUOTE="xDonRobx"]

Most of the anti-PC fanboys on here are from the US. I don't know about UK or the rest of the world, but PC gaming is more expensive and more complicated than consoles, which is why majority in the states tend to get consoles.

Thats one of the reasons I haven't joined PC gaming, im too lazy to have to worry about all that stuff. Sure it might be worth it, but I don't want to go through the hassle.

nmaharg

Typical American.

I thought this was System Wars, not Nationality Wars.

Nice comeback though, real original. What's your secret?

there's more hate for opposing consoles than there is for PCs. it seems to me that people pick on PCs when they're tired of picking on opposing consoles, or when a PC fanatic gets on here and makes the annoying claim that they can make a powerful PC for under $600.

both PCs and consoles have their place in gaming. i don't even think comparing the two is a worthwhile pursuit.

PC gamers feel they are the end of all gaming. They have no respect for the consoles they grew up playing. They think they have a good reason to upgrade and everyone else should follow or you are not a HARDCORE , DEVOTED GAMER.

I only base this on what I read every day.

Consoles have been mainstream for many many many years and will continue with this as they are more user friendly and more family oriented and you get the added benefit of playing with real friends instead of only online.

People should give props and respect to where they come from.

Sure console games are created on PC, but from there is where they take over....Pc gaming is fun and I have spent my time playing a couple of them...BUT..IN NO WAY will I ever go total PC for my games.

FunkyHeadHunter

You say that but without PC gaming there would be no arcade gaming which means no console gaming. You should take your own advice.

[QUOTE="mmogoon"]

[QUOTE="nmaharg"] My rig was just under $600 and I run crysis damn near max.nmaharg

Specs?

e2140 @ 3.2ghz

2 gb ddr 800 ram

8800 gt

yada yada yada

$600 my ass

[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="xDonRobx"]

Most of the anti-PC fanboys on here are from the US. I don't know about UK or the rest of the world, but PC gaming is more expensive and more complicated than consoles, which is why majority in the states tend to get consoles.

Thats one of the reasons I haven't joined PC gaming, im too lazy to have to worry about all that stuff. Sure it might be worth it, but I don't want to go through the hassle.

xDonRobx

Typical American.

I thought this was System Wars, not Nationality Wars.

Nice comeback though, real original. What's your secret?

Sorry that was a bit rude. But america is turning into a really cheap and lazy country. It just bothers me.

[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="mmogoon"]

[QUOTE="nmaharg"] My rig was just under $600 and I run crysis damn near max.mmogoon

Specs?

e2140 @ 3.2ghz

2 gb ddr 800 ram

8800 gt

yada yada yada

$600 my ass

[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="mmogoon"]

[QUOTE="nmaharg"] My rig was just under $600 and I run crysis damn near max.mmogoon

Specs?

e2140 @ 3.2ghz

2 gb ddr 800 ram

8800 gt

yada yada yada

$600 my ass

No lies heres how i did it.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/show_msgs.php?board_id=314159282&topic_id=26051342

[QUOTE="xDonRobx"][QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="xDonRobx"]

Most of the anti-PC fanboys on here are from the US. I don't know about UK or the rest of the world, but PC gaming is more expensive and more complicated than consoles, which is why majority in the states tend to get consoles.

Thats one of the reasons I haven't joined PC gaming, im too lazy to have to worry about all that stuff. Sure it might be worth it, but I don't want to go through the hassle.

nmaharg

Typical American.

I thought this was System Wars, not Nationality Wars.

Nice comeback though, real original. What's your secret?

Sorry that was a bit rude. But america is turning into a really cheap and lazy country. It just bothers me.

And you have what to base this info on? The media?:lol:

[QUOTE="xDonRobx"]

Most of the anti-PC fanboys on here are from the US. I don't know about UK or the rest of the world, but PC gaming is more expensive and more complicated than consoles, which is why majority in the states tend to get consoles.

Thats one of the reasons I haven't joined PC gaming, im too lazy to have to worry about all that stuff. Sure it might be worth it, but I don't want to go through the hassle.

nmaharg

Typical American.

USAUSAUSA

:)

[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="xDonRobx"][QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="xDonRobx"]

Most of the anti-PC fanboys on here are from the US. I don't know about UK or the rest of the world, but PC gaming is more expensive and more complicated than consoles, which is why majority in the states tend to get consoles.

Thats one of the reasons I haven't joined PC gaming, im too lazy to have to worry about all that stuff. Sure it might be worth it, but I don't want to go through the hassle.

trix5817

Typical American.

I thought this was System Wars, not Nationality Wars.

Nice comeback though, real original. What's your secret?

Sorry that was a bit rude. But america is turning into a really cheap and lazy country. It just bothers me.

And you have what to base this info on? The media?:lol:

The fact I live in america and see it daily.

[QUOTE="mmogoon"][QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="mmogoon"]

[QUOTE="nmaharg"] My rig was just under $600 and I run crysis damn near max.nmaharg

Specs?

e2140 @ 3.2ghz

2 gb ddr 800 ram

8800 gt

yada yada yada

$600 my ass

No lies heres how i did it.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/show_msgs.php?board_id=314159282&topic_id=26051342

You realized you just killed your "building a PC is easy" argument with that twisted mess of bargain hunting, right? Plus I love how cheap PCs get to recycle old peices of hardware to fit the price.

Build PC: find a million special deals on parts, wait for them to ship, hope that there are no shipping problems. Once parts install, spend time putting everything together, installing OS, install patches, install game, install peripherials, etc.

Console: Go to store, place cash on counter and say "Xbox 360 please". Purchase, bring home, unbox, plug in power, plug in 3 color-coded wires, press eject, insert disc, play game.

Why do people still wonder why consoles are popular again? News flash: most people aren't PC oriented. You say building a PC is easy. I observe that the average person is scared %&@#less to open a PC and mess with parts or try to figure out how they work.

[QUOTE="trix5817"][QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="xDonRobx"][QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="xDonRobx"]

Most of the anti-PC fanboys on here are from the US. I don't know about UK or the rest of the world, but PC gaming is more expensive and more complicated than consoles, which is why majority in the states tend to get consoles.

Thats one of the reasons I haven't joined PC gaming, im too lazy to have to worry about all that stuff. Sure it might be worth it, but I don't want to go through the hassle.

nmaharg

Typical American.

I thought this was System Wars, not Nationality Wars.

Nice comeback though, real original. What's your secret?

Sorry that was a bit rude. But america is turning into a really cheap and lazy country. It just bothers me.

And you have what to base this info on? The media?:lol:

The fact I live in america and see it daily.

It's true though, there are too many obese people here in the US. It's gross. Heard a lot of reasons why that could be the case, for example, drugs used to increase growth rate of cattle/chicken, and then we eat it. However, it's not just that as I see too much laziness over here.

Ever seen the daytime TV programs that are played on a weekday? A bunch of shows with fat lazy people whining about stuff. The shows I'm talking about are those talk shows and those court shows. Then just walk around and it won't be long before you see some fatty. Of cousre it depends on where you live.

[QUOTE="trix5817"][QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="xDonRobx"][QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="xDonRobx"]

Most of the anti-PC fanboys on here are from the US. I don't know about UK or the rest of the world, but PC gaming is more expensive and more complicated than consoles, which is why majority in the states tend to get consoles.

Thats one of the reasons I haven't joined PC gaming, im too lazy to have to worry about all that stuff. Sure it might be worth it, but I don't want to go through the hassle.

nmaharg

Typical American.

I thought this was System Wars, not Nationality Wars.

Nice comeback though, real original. What's your secret?

Sorry that was a bit rude. But america is turning into a really cheap and lazy country. It just bothers me.

And you have what to base this info on? The media?:lol:

The fact I live in america and see it daily.

Oh, so your area=the rest of the US? I live in England, and I see laziness Daily. My area=rest of England, obviously. (I don't really live in England).

[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="mmogoon"][QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="mmogoon"]

[QUOTE="nmaharg"] My rig was just under $600 and I run crysis damn near max.Corvin

Specs?

e2140 @ 3.2ghz

2 gb ddr 800 ram

8800 gt

yada yada yada

$600 my ass

No lies heres how i did it.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/show_msgs.php?board_id=314159282&topic_id=26051342

You realized you just killed your "building a PC is easy" argument with that twisted mess of bargain hunting, right? Plus I love how cheap PCs get to recycle old peices of hardware to fit the price.

Build PC: find a million special deals on parts, wait for them to ship, hope that there are no shipping problems. Once parts install, spend time putting everything together, installing OS, install patches, install game, install peripherials, etc.

Console: Go to store, place cash on counter and say "Xbox 360 please". Purchase, bring home, unbox, plug in power, plug in 3 color-coded wires, press eject, insert disc, play game.

Why do people still wonder why consoles are popular again? News flash: most people aren't PC oriented. You say building a PC is easy. I observe that the average person is scared %&@#less to open a PC and mess with parts or try to figure out how they work.

So your arugument is that it's too hard? I don't know, maybe its just me but if im going to spend 400+ on anything I would rather have something I know is the best or damn near close to it.

When you buy a hiome you do research and bargin hunt. Same with a car, or anything else for that matter. What makes gaming any different?

In the world we live in where information is everywhere, there is no reason to be afraid of opening up your PC. Damn near impossible to break the damn thing, and i've done some pretty messed up things to my pc.

A lot of PC gamers on this board seem to have a superiority complex. I think that's the main problem.jim_shorts

Yeah, because lemming, sheep, and cows don't..........please........

[QUOTE="jim_shorts"]A lot of PC gamers on this board seem to have a superiority complex. I think that's the main problem.trix5817

Yeah, because lemming, sheep, and cows don't..........please........

Y

Console: Go to store, place cash on counter and say "Xbox 360 please". Purchase, bring home, unbox, plug in power, plug in 3 color-coded wires, press eject, insert disc, play game.

Why do people still wonder why consoles are popular again? News flash: most people aren't PC oriented. You say building a PC is easy. I observe that the average person is scared %&@#less to open a PC and mess with parts or try to figure out how they work.

Corvin

When are people going to post the REAL cost behind consoles? I move into my new house and I wanna play mario galaxy and halo, It's gonna be alot more complicated than your little example.

Also, as for consoles beign more popular than PCs, I got about a billion people around the world that kinda proves your statement false

[QUOTE="trix5817"]

[QUOTE="jim_shorts"]A lot of PC gamers on this board seem to have a superiority complex. I think that's the main problem.jim_shorts

Yeah, because lemming, sheep, and cows don't..........please........

My guess is because they have to. Just look at the front page and how many topics there are bashing the pc. And the worst part for no reason.

Just to help you guys out here are a few reason to really bash the pc.

No multiplayer except for online. Buggy ass games on release. Most are loud as hell. can't think of any more, but there are some real problems with pc gaming.

But it being too hard or too expensive is just crap.

I'm tired of the whole "consoles are dumbing down PC gaming" argument that hermits who come here are always whining about. The latest is the whole UT 3 thing. It isn't the consoles fault that developers are abandoning the hardcore PC fanbase and simplifying established PC brands. It the developers that want to make more money. It's a whiny argument that completely removes the blame from the people responsible and should be stopped immediately.

[QUOTE="jim_shorts"]A lot of PC gamers on this board seem to have a superiority complex. I think that's the main problem.trix5817

Yeah, because lemming, sheep, and cows don't..........please........

I'm tired of the whole "consoles are dumbing down PC gaming" argument that hermits who come here are always whining about. The latest is the whole UT 3 thing. It isn't the consoles fault that developers are abandoning the hardcore PC fanbase and simplifying established PC brands. It the developers that want to make more money. It's a whiny argument that completely removes the blame from the people responsible and should be stopped immediately.

heretrix

Well it's funny that while they did dumb it down for the consoles (dumb it down is definitly the right phrase here) they remain commited to patching that "mistake" for the pc version.

So your arugument is that it's too hard? I don't know, maybe its just me but if im going to spend 400+ on anything I would rather have something I know is the best or damn near close to it.

When you buy a hiome you do research and bargin hunt. Same with a car, or anything else for that matter. What makes gaming any different?

In the world we live in where information is everywhere, there is no reason to be afraid of opening up your PC. Damn near impossible to break the damn thing, and i've done some pretty messed up things to my pc.

nmaharg

Once again coming from that position of "I do it and its easy, anyone should be able to". I've been messing with PC hardware since 486/pentium days. And yet these days, yes, its more hassle than its worth to keep up with the PC technology. Consoles do away with all that. I don't care if my game could be running at 120fps with 52x AA and 1.2 trillion pixels every nanosecond anymore.

Now, a $15,000+ vehicle vs. $400 or so of PC parts or a console? No comparison. Not even close. Also, how many people do you know that build their cars from scratch, from individual components? Once again, no comparison. People are mocked on here if they buy a pre-built gaming computer. Should we mock people for buying pre-built cars?

Doesn't matter if its "damn near impossible" to break a thing, the whole thing is just sort of, eerie to many people. I've spent plenty of time trying to ponder why more people don't build their PC, want to know a major reason? Because of all the people out there saying how easy it is, when it looks so scary, and they are afraid they are being ripped off. Some people don't want to buy "PC Hardware for Dummies" just to play some video games. They just want to play some video games. And so, the console was born.

[QUOTE="jim_shorts"][QUOTE="trix5817"]

[QUOTE="jim_shorts"]A lot of PC gamers on this board seem to have a superiority complex. I think that's the main problem.nmaharg

Yeah, because lemming, sheep, and cows don't..........please........

My guess is because they have to. Just look at the front page and how many topics there are bashing the pc. And the worst part for no reason.

Just to help you guys out here are a few reason to really bash the pc.

No multiplayer except for online. Buggy ass games on release. Most are loud as hell. can't think of any more, but there are some real problems with pc gaming.

But it being too hard or too expensive is just crap.

I'm tired of the whole "consoles are dumbing down PC gaming" argument that hermits who come here are always whining about. The latest is the whole UT 3 thing. It isn't the consoles fault that developers are abandoning the hardcore PC fanbase and simplifying established PC brands. It the developers that want to make more money. It's a whiny argument that completely removes the blame from the people responsible and should be stopped immediately.

heretrix

Bioshock and Oblivion in my mind is proof of this.. Other thent he vita tanks many complained about, the game had no rpg elements what so ever.. it was simplified that a 10 year old can play it..

Oblivion is the exact same way.. Not going to write an entire page on this, just saying it lacked in every thing inwhat makes a rpg a rpg.. Now this never happens in direct pc rpg game ports, people enver cry about dumbing down..

Not saying it happens to every game, but I do believe it happens to some games..

http://utforums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?t=584654

Q: I am unhappy with the UI.
A: We're aware that the UI isn't perfect. We're working on numerous improvements and additions to the user interface that will be made available in future updates to UT3.

Translation: We're aware that the UI is retarded and dumb for the console release. We'll fix it

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

I'm tired of the whole "consoles are dumbing down PC gaming" argument that hermits who come here are always whining about. The latest is the whole UT 3 thing. It isn't the consoles fault that developers are abandoning the hardcore PC fanbase and simplifying established PC brands. It the developers that want to make more money. It's a whiny argument that completely removes the blame from the people responsible and should be stopped immediately.

sSubZerOo

Bioshock and Oblivion in my mind is proof of this.. Other thent he vita tanks many complained about, the game had no rpg elements what so ever.. it was simplified that a 10 year old can play it..

Oblivion is the exact same way.. Not going to write an entire page on this, just saying it lacked in every thing inwhat makes a rpg a rpg.. Now this never happens in direct pc rpg game ports, people enver cry about dumbing down..

Not saying it happens to every game, but I do believe it happens to some games..

[QUOTE="nmaharg"]

So your arugument is that it's too hard? I don't know, maybe its just me but if im going to spend 400+ on anything I would rather have something I know is the best or damn near close to it.

When you buy a hiome you do research and bargin hunt. Same with a car, or anything else for that matter. What makes gaming any different?

In the world we live in where information is everywhere, there is no reason to be afraid of opening up your PC. Damn near impossible to break the damn thing, and i've done some pretty messed up things to my pc.

Corvin

Once again coming from that position of "I do it and its easy, anyone should be able to". I've been messing with PC hardware since 486/pentium days. And yet these days, yes, its more hassle than its worth to keep up with the PC technology. Consoles do away with all that. I don't care if my game could be running at 120fps with 52x AA and 1.2 trillion pixels every nanosecond anymore.

Now, a $15,000 vs. $400 or so of PC parts or a console? No comparison. Not even close. Also, how many people do you know that build their cars from scratch, from individual components? Once again, no comparison. People are mocked on here if they buy a pre-built gaming computer. Should we mock people for buying pre-built cars?

Doesn't matter if its "damn near impossible" to break a thing, the whole thing is just sort of, eerie to many people. I've spent plenty of time trying to ponder why more people don't build their PC, want to know a major reason? Because of all the people out there saying how easy it is, when it looks so scary, and they are afraid they are being ripped off. Some people don't want to buy "PC Hardware for Dummies" just to play some video games. They just want to play some video games. And so, the console was born.

If you're too dumb to do that then so be it. And putting a PC together is nowhere near the compelxity of a car, if you have the right parts there is only one way they fit in and you usually have instructions. Lazyness is a valid reason for not building a computer, but the lack of knowledge is not, not today.

http://utforums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?t=584654

Q: I am unhappy with the UI.
A: We're aware that the UI isn't perfect. We're working on numerous improvements and additions to the user interface that will be made available in future updates to UT3.

Translation: We're aware that the UI is retarded and dumb for the console release. We'll fix it

TeamR

There really isn't any need for that dude. Seriously, get over it. If they are fixing it that should be enough.

[QUOTE="xDonRobx"]

Most of the anti-PC fanboys on here are from the US. I don't know about UK or the rest of the world, but PC gaming is more expensive and more complicated than consoles, which is why majority in the states tend to get consoles.

Thats one of the reasons I haven't joined PC gaming, im too lazy to have to worry about all that stuff. Sure it might be worth it, but I don't want to go through the hassle.

nmaharg

Typical American.

Yeah. What the hell was that. I'm from a third world country, and no one even's heard about Halo here. They're too busy playing DOTA and CS:S.

I'm tired of the whole "consoles are dumbing down PC gaming" argument that hermits who come here are always whining about. The latest is the whole UT 3 thing. It isn't the consoles fault that developers are abandoning the hardcore PC fanbase and simplifying established PC brands. It the developers that want to make more money. It's a whiny argument that completely removes the blame from the people responsible and should be stopped immediately.

heretrix

The problem I have is with PS3/360 owners who bash hermits for saying PC gaming is better than PS3/360 and then turn around and use the same argument that was used by hermits to bash Wii gamers.

Hermit - PS3/360 is dumbing down PC gaming to make it more appealing to casuals

Cows/Lemmings - Wii is killing gaming by catering to the casuals/non-gamers.

Hermits - PS3/360 graphics is crap compared to PC games

Cows/Lemmings - Wii graphics suck and is last gen.

Hermits - PC has more AA and AAA games than PS3/360

Cows/Lemmings - PS3/360 has more AA and AAA games than Wii.

See the pattern?