Why all the hate on Kinect?

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#1 Heclogit
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Everyone who own's an Xbox One will own the Kinect. So this means you can skype and video chat with any one on your friends list at any given time. And cetainly walking into the room and saying Xbox ON has to be worth something? It seems rather cool that everyone will own the Kinect and be able to voice/ video chat with friends while doing whatever it is that you are doing. Browsing the store or internet. It's a cool feature. The reason PS Eye has never worked in the past is because there is no value to own one while no one else has one.

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#2 campzor
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if i wanted to voice/video chat with friends, ill use a phone.
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#3 m_machine024
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Ok so we are not talking Kinect gameplay related? No problem with Kinect then.

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#4 psymon100
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If I can use Kinect to find out what the bottom of an Avatar's shoe looks like - bam, I'll get on the hype train. 

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#5 Heclogit
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if i wanted to voice/video chat with friends, ill use a phone.campzor
Typical Sony fan. You can also group chat and party chat with video chatting. No need for a headset but one is included anyway.
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#6 Heclogit
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Ok so we are not talking Kinect gameplay related? No problem with Kinect then.

m_machine024
Right I mean if the Xbox One came with a free game it would surely out value the PS4 right? the Kinect has to be worth 40 bucks.
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#7 xhawk27
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if i wanted to voice/video chat with friends, ill use a phone.campzor

Yeah but Phones have tiny screens. 

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#8 Raziel831991
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Because in the end its just a gimmick

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#9 Heclogit
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Because in the end its just a gimmick

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It would be a gimmick if it doesn't work properly or that if finding a TV remote would be a quicker option. The voice controls are top notch. I mean unless proven other wise no one has really used them yet. It would be a cool feature. Like it or not social features are an important part of console gaming. What set Xbox 360 apart from PS3 for half a decade was social features. The console war is a long war like Sony has proven with the PS3. These built in social features and ease of access features could easily pay off. At this point people are not educated about the products yet.
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"And cetainly walking into the room and saying Xbox ON has to be worth something? " No
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#11 Sagem28
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"And cetainly walking into the room and saying Xbox ON has to be worth something? " Norjdofu

Well, at least it's useful for trolling purposes.

Losing a co-op game ? "XBOX OFF !"

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#12 toughtrasher
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It was overhyped imo

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#13 VendettaRed07
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lts fun when used right but its limited. Meaning developers will constantly try to make it do more than its capable of doing. Resulting in a lot of mediocre/broken games. 

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Everyone who own's an Xbox One will own the Kinect. So this means you can skype and video chat with any one on your friends list at any given time. And cetainly walking into the room and saying Xbox ON has to be worth something? It seems rather cool that everyone will own the Kinect and be able to voice/ video chat with friends while doing whatever it is that you are doing. Browsing the store or internet. It's a cool feature. The reason PS Eye has never worked in the past is because there is no value to own one while no one else has one.

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Whoa... whoa. Hang on a second there. For starters, the Playstation Eye was a peripheral that came out in 2004/05 for the PS2, and it did REALLY well. This was back in the era of "Everyone loves PS2/Sony" and that was a camera peripheral with no internet connection and nowhere near the robust features of the Kinect. And yet, the gameplay experiences we have gotten from camera based motion hasn't really evolved much. For starters, people have Skype and cameras on a variety of things; Laptops, tablets, smart phones, you name it. Bundling it in with a videogame console doesn't really give it value unless those features can be applied to games. The features you are describing, voice chat and video calls, was a feature the original Xbox Camera (my, we all forgot about that one didn't we?) featured back in 2005, and the truth of the matter is that even with video calls/conferencing being a feature that we find on a plethora of our modern electronics, there are deep seated reasons why humans are adverse to the idea of video calls. Voice controls are a different matter altogether. While they are great in theory, the new Kinect has already failed the troll test at one of my friends studio. A tester walked by a few designer's desk and said Xbox Off, it promptly shut down 3 different developer's Xbox One while conducting work. Suffice it to say, there are now "no-no" words in that studio that do not involve cusses.
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[QUOTE="Heclogit"]

Everyone who own's an Xbox One will own the Kinect. So this means you can skype and video chat with any one on your friends list at any given time. And cetainly walking into the room and saying Xbox ON has to be worth something? It seems rather cool that everyone will own the Kinect and be able to voice/ video chat with friends while doing whatever it is that you are doing. Browsing the store or internet. It's a cool feature. The reason PS Eye has never worked in the past is because there is no value to own one while no one else has one.

Shensolidus

Whoa... whoa. Hang on a second there. For starters, the Playstation Eye was a peripheral that came out in 2004/05 for the PS2, and it did REALLY well. This was back in the era of "Everyone loves PS2/Sony" and that was a camera peripheral with no internet connection and nowhere near the robust features of the Kinect. And yet, the gameplay experiences we have gotten from camera based motion hasn't really evolved much. For starters, people have Skype and cameras on a variety of things; Laptops, tablets, smart phones, you name it. Bundling it in with a videogame console doesn't really give it value unless those features can be applied to games. The features you are describing, voice chat and video calls, was a feature the original Xbox Camera (my, we all forgot about that one didn't we?) featured back in 2005, and the truth of the matter is that even with video calls/conferencing being a feature that we find on a plethora of our modern electronics, there are deep seated reasons why humans are adverse to the idea of video calls. Voice controls are a different matter altogether. While they are great in theory, the new Kinect has already failed the troll test at one of my friends studio. A tester walked by a few designer's desk and said Xbox Off, it promptly shut down 3 different developer's Xbox One while conducting work. Suffice it to say, there are now "no-no" words in that studio that do not involve cusses.

Really, this is very interesting. :|

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#16 m_machine024
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[QUOTE="m_machine024"]

Ok so we are not talking Kinect gameplay related? No problem with Kinect then.

Heclogit

Right I mean if the Xbox One came with a free game it would surely out value the PS4 right? the Kinect has to be worth 40 bucks.

.... not sure what you're getting at... but I'm just saying that it has cool features but gameplay wise, it hasn't proven itself yet. 

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#17 handssss
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1. Because everyone is forced to buy it 2. Because it adds no value to the gaming experience
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#18 tryagainlater
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Because it's shit.

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#19 deactivated-60507872ef8cc
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My hate on kinect is more to due with not the tech or the uses.

i Just cant stand motion gaming/cant stand cameras watching me, and other then that with the xbox one Kinect, is not OPTIONAL for a launch xbox, its forced on me when im never gonna use it. (and i refuse to pay to disconnect it)

I see 0 game uses, all i see is minor conviences(if voice recognition doesent fail with me like allways does, get around menus faster), i care about the games not forced on menu voice / gesture navigation.

 

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#20 nyzma23
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gamers with family or girlfriend will love kinect but basement dweller don't like most people here

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#22 killzowned24
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Since the birth of kinect :lol:

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#23 Serial_Killa
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1. Because everyone is forced to buy it

2.Because it adds no value to the gaming experiencehandssss

Because it's shit.

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Nuff said.;)

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#24 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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Playroom > kinect

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#25 dommeus
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No point asking here. There are probably about 5 cows here, each with a handful of alts, and they spend practically all day giving themselves reach arounds in their own threads.

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#26 -Snooze-
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Now I get a free game, I honestly don't mind the price. It means im getting Kinect for about £40, which just for the chat features and menu interaction is quite good. Not to mention the small uses it'll have in normal games, for instance head tracking in forza.

 

There's always the possibility that down the line Indies develop some really fun titles for use with Kinect, also.

 

All in all yeah, I can't complain.

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#27 Ninja-Hippo
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I will never walk into my living room and say 'xbox on' because I am not a crazy person.
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I will never walk into my living room and say 'xbox on' because I am not a crazy person.Ninja-Hippo

You can't honestly tell me you wont do it at least once, when you first set it up ...Just to see if it works well, and how stupid you feel.

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Be me.
On a date.
Fancy italian restaurant.
Picked up the check and left a generous tip.
Babe was impressed.
Shit was so cash.
Took her out for a drink afterwards.
Bartender gave us a round on the house because I'm so popular there.
Babe totally smitten.
Shit was so cash.
Asks if she can come back to my place.
Damn straight you can, but it was still a little early.
'That's ok, we can go back to your place and watch a movie.'
Shit was so cash.
Smooch in the cab, get home, throw on some sensual mood lighting.
Hop on the couch, pick up my remote and turn on the TV.
'XBOX! On!'
The xbox comes on.
'XBOX! Go to movies!'
The movie section comes up.
'XBOX! Play "Dirty Dancing"'

I looked up and she'd left. Thanks a lot, Microsoft.

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Be me.
On a date.
Fancy italian restaurant.
Picked up the check and left a generous tip.
Babe was impressed.
Shit was so cash.
Took her out for a drink afterwards.
Bartender gave us a round on the house because I'm so popular there.
Babe totally smitten.
Shit was so cash.
Asks if she can come back to my place.
Damn straight you can, but it was still a little early.
'That's ok, we can go back to your place and watch a movie.'
Shit was so cash.
Smooch in the cab, get home, throw on some sensual mood lighting.
Hop on the couch, pick up my remote and turn on the TV.
'XBOX! On!'
The xbox comes on.
'XBOX! Go to movies!'
The movie section comes up.
'XBOX! Play "Dirty Dancing"'

 

I looked up and she'd left. Thanks a lot, Microsoft.

Ninja-Hippo

:lol:

Well done.

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Be me.
On a date.
Fancy italian restaurant.
Picked up the check and left a generous tip.
Babe was impressed.
Shit was so cash.
Took her out for a drink afterwards.
Bartender gave us a round on the house because I'm so popular there.
Babe totally smitten.
Shit was so cash.
Asks if she can come back to my place.
Damn straight you can, but it was still a little early.
'That's ok, we can go back to your place and watch a movie.'
Shit was so cash.
Smooch in the cab, get home, throw on some sensual mood lighting.
Hop on the couch, pick up my remote and turn on the TV.
'XBOX! On!'
The xbox comes on.
'XBOX! Go to movies!'
The movie section comes up.
'XBOX! Play "Dirty Dancing"'

 

I looked up and she'd left. Thanks a lot, Microsoft.

Ninja-Hippo

It's more or less the same as saying "Lights on" or clapping to have them turn on. Say Xbox on in your most sensual voice and she'll be melting at your soothing tones, and Hardware mastery

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#32 Szminsky
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Hate? Such a strong word for a piece of plastic. Annoyance and dissapointment fits it better, especially when it's a mandatory >jam down the throat< gimmick.

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#33 bulby_g
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Will probably be OK for a few party games and is likely the main reason I may end up getting one down the road.  It's nice to have some games that both girls and boys will want to play when you have a few people over.  Also the mrs will only play either 2D or motion control games and I like to get her involved where I can.  Makes a change from me playing games while she sits and watches soaps.  

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I also hate how MS thinks it's some kind of amazing innovation that will blow peoples minds away, all the while shoving it in our faces like we need it.  No we don't.  It's USELESS for gaming. ****in junk.  It only serves to jack up the price like $100.

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[QUOTE="rjdofu"]"And cetainly walking into the room and saying Xbox ON has to be worth something? " NoSagem28

Well, at least it's useful for trolling purposes.

Losing a co-op game ? "XBOX OFF !"

Would be more fun to troll others, *friend engaging in a heated online match* "XBOX OFF" LOL. Gotta try that at least once.
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#36 Michael0134567
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People just don't get it.

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#37 strawhatlupi
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Kinect is a big fat gimmick... http://www.forbes.com/sites/willburns/2013/05/27/how-xbox-one-will-change-advertising-forever/
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#38 pelvist
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Because it's shit.

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#39 pelvist
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gamers with family or girlfriend will love kinect but basement dweller don't like most people here

nyzma23

 

I have a family AND girlfriend and Kinect is still shit. If it was that good then PC gamers would all have it too since its available on PC. Fortunately for PC gamers though we arent forced to have it, so we dont.

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Everyone who own's an Xbox One will own the Kinect. So this means you can skype and video chat with any one on your friends list at any given time. And cetainly walking into the room and saying Xbox ON has to be worth something? It seems rather cool that everyone will own the Kinect and be able to voice/ video chat with friends while doing whatever it is that you are doing. Browsing the store or internet. It's a cool feature. The reason PS Eye has never worked in the past is because there is no value to own one while no one else has one.

Heclogit

If Kinect offered interesting games i would back it up.. however it doesnt.. 

As an alternative control/command for Menu browsing its way too expensive... Video/voice chat with friends?? there are other alternative ways, phones/ cellphones for example... Also I've been Video chatting with friends for years now on PC so why should I be excited i'll be able to do that on X1 via kinect?

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[QUOTE="rjdofu"]"And cetainly walking into the room and saying Xbox ON has to be worth something? " NoSagem28

Well, at least it's useful for trolling purposes.

Losing a co-op game ? "XBOX OFF !"

A new form of Rage Quit is upon us!
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if i wanted to voice/video chat with friends, ill use a phone.campzor

 

By that logic, why did you even get a phone?  You could do that on a computer well before you could do it on a phone.

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#43 Rattlesnake_8
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The games that come out for kinect are always terrible. The kinect is now a spy device for the NSA where every skype conversation and emailed is saved and stored on their servers. It is always listening and watching you and can pick up on what you say and send that information to other sources. It's a way for MS to make extra money by invading your privacy.
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#44 XBOunity
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I love what the new kinect can do.  Mo cap in project spark, face scanning in ksv, and the sheer tech makes marvel.  People hating on it is nothing new.   It sold 24 million and that was the first iteration.  The next kinect will deliver

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#45 shellcase86
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Because it is being oversold and will underdeliver.

Watched dev diary for Kinect Sports Rivals and I was surprised that there is still noticeable lag , despite port built just for the Kinect camera. Granted, it's something easy to account and adapt to, but don't try to hype it as being super advanced and all these other nonsense power words when there is still lag issues. Given that they are having issues with vocal optimization, I'm guessing accents will still be an issue. The only great feauture I saw touched on is its sensitivity in low lighting, that's great.

Also, Skype iintegration s overrated, I never used it but just watched a live interview with it used as the medium for the interview and there were quite a few audio/video hiccups. It's great that users have the option, but it's not better than other apps that do the same.

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#46 Ricardomz
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Because Kinect is taking all the focus from real games... Just look at the latest Fable game...

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#47 XBOunity
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Because Kinect is taking all the focus from real games... Just look at the latest Fable game...

Ricardomz

Looks at sonys launch looks at microsoft launch.   Yeah all the focus right lol

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#48 campzor
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[QUOTE="campzor"]if i wanted to voice/video chat with friends, ill use a phone.kingsfan_0333

 

By that logic, why did you even get a phone?  You could do that on a computer well before you could do it on a phone.

i can make phone calls on my computer when im at the shops?
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#49 meetroid8
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I can video chat whenever I want to anyway. Voice commands are a neat trick, but they're not any improvement of a simple button press. Kinect has potential, but it currently has no real value.
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#50 toughtrasher
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[QUOTE="handssss"]1. Because everyone is forced to buy it 2. Because it adds no value to the gaming experience

I think it has value for kids, made the Xbox kind of a family console like the Wii