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#1 SuddenlyTragic
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I know that Sony fanboys are hating on Ryse because it's on Xbox but it seems like everyone is expecting it to just be mediocre or completely suck. Why is this (and I'd like an unbiased response)? Crytek has made nothing but great games ever since their first game, Far Cry. I haven't decided on which console I'm going to buy first, but have been leaning towards the One recently based on the somewhat negative reception of the PS4 and the fact that I've always liked the Xbox more when it comes to console gaming. But anyway, I personally think this game looks badass so where is all of the negativity coming from exactly?

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#2 danabo
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Poor E3 showing. Game looked shallow, linear, repetitive, and clunky.

Still, pretty.

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#3  Edited By psymon100
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I think it looks better than most people are giving it credit for. I've played it too.

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#4 ReadingRainbow4
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It looks terribly boring.

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#5  Edited By deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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Its the same situation as Knack i.e. linear, repetitive, dull

It has pretty graphics though

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#6  Edited By Gue1
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@SuddenlyTragic:

this is the least biased opinion you'll find on this forum.

http://www.gameinformer.com/games/ryse_son_of_rome/b/xboxone/archive/2013/11/06/ryse-son-of-rome-is-as-fun-as-dialing-phone-numbers.aspx

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#7  Edited By MlauTheDaft
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  • It does'nt look particularly impressive. Media makes it look like a low res version of a current gen PC port.
  • Crytek has more or less ruined their track record for compelling gameplay.
  • It was originally a Kinect game and gameplay sort of seems to confirm that.

Edit:

Honestly, it does'nt seem to look any better than AC2/Brotherhood/Rev/3 does on PC right now.

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#8 nervmeister
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Simply put, cows are pissed off about the hazing they got from lemmings after the latest Killzone flopped and want the same thing to happen to Ryse so they can return the favor.

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#9 ReadingRainbow4
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@Vatusus said:

Its the same situation as Knack i.e. linear, repetitive, dull

It has pretty graphics though

Actually knack is a perfect example, Ryse only let's you use a sword and shield apparently. Much like Knack with his Fists.

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#11 SuddenlyTragic
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@Gue1: Alright cool, that's what I was looking for. I remember from E3 there being a lot of cued button pressing but hoped this wasn't how all of the combat was but apparently so. Oh well, guess I'll pass unless things have somehow turned around. Guess we'll know once the reviews come out but I suppose it's doubtful it will have changed too much

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@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@Vatusus said:

Its the same situation as Knack i.e. linear, repetitive, dull

It has pretty graphics though

Actually knack is a perfect example, Ryse only let's you use a sword and shield apparently. Much like Knack with his Fists.

You can also use spears.

On topic, Ryse is made by Crytek who had the audacity to call Crysis 3 a game and believes all games will be F2P. And I don't even need to start addressing all the problems with Ryse's development process and its lackluster offerings.

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#13 ReadingRainbow4
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Easy.......

Fear leads to anger.

Anger leads to hate.

Hate leads to suffering.

In this example Sony Fan has hate and ultimately it forces them to suffer with poor purchasing decisions, dreadful launch games, and faulty hardware.

Pity them.

that sounds like what the Lemmings have been doing these past few months or so.

You're a terrible Yoda btw. The force is not with you.

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#14 Tighaman
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Ryse is going to get great reviews fanboys gonna say every site is moneyhatted and after seeing that very very boring infamous gameplay no sony fanboy can talk about boring and repetitive shhhhheeeesh!

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#15  Edited By heretrix
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It doesn't look very good.

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#16 handssss
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looks like all graphics with poor gameplay. poor as in shallow combat, repetitive, and clunky.

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@kuu2 said:

Easy.......

Fear leads to anger.

Anger leads to hate.

Hate leads to suffering.

In this example Sony Fan has hate and ultimately it forces them to suffer with poor purchasing decisions, dreadful launch games, and faulty hardware.

Pity them.

Wrong.

Anger leads to Fear

Fear leads to Suffering

Suffering leads to Hate.

OR:

Chicken leads to Egg

Egg leads to Omelet.

Omelet leads to Fecal Urgency.

I assume someone will know what I'm referring to.

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#18 Heil68
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I think it looks great actually. I think the gameplay will bring it down.

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#21 SonofK
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@kuu2 said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@kuu2 said:

Easy.......

Fear leads to anger.

Anger leads to hate.

Hate leads to suffering.

In this example Sony Fan has hate and ultimately it forces them to suffer with poor purchasing decisions, dreadful launch games, and faulty hardware.

Pity them.

that sounds like what the Lemmings have been doing these past few months or so.

You're a terrible Yoda btw. The force is not with you.

If I was really trying to be Yoda I would need mental help kinda like that Sony Fan that pretends to be Wonder Woman. Very creepy.............

On topic.

What have we been doing lately Sony Fan besides celebrating we have the best next gen console like all media outlets have been saying?

Hahahaha

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#22  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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@Basinboy said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@Vatusus said:

Its the same situation as Knack i.e. linear, repetitive, dull

It has pretty graphics though

Actually knack is a perfect example, Ryse only let's you use a sword and shield apparently. Much like Knack with his Fists.

You can also use spears.

On topic, Ryse is made by Crytek who had the audacity to call Crysis 3 a game and believes all games will be F2P. And I don't even need to start addressing all the problems with Ryse's development process and its lackluster offerings.

Is there an actual combat style to use with the spears, or is it just for quick executions, throwing, very basic stuff.

I've only seen them speak about swords and shields so far.

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#23  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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@Basinboy said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@Vatusus said:

Its the same situation as Knack i.e. linear, repetitive, dull

It has pretty graphics though

Actually knack is a perfect example, Ryse only let's you use a sword and shield apparently. Much like Knack with his Fists.

You can also use spears.

On topic, Ryse is made by Crytek who had the audacity to call Crysis 3 a game and believes all games will be F2P. And I don't even need to start addressing all the problems with Ryse's development process and its lackluster offerings.

Is there an actual combat style to use with the spears, or is it just for quick executions, throwing, very basic stuff.

I've only seen them speak about swords and shields so far.

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#25  Edited By edidili
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@SuddenlyTragic said:

Crytek has made nothing but great games ever since their first game

They've made only one game I liked and that was the first Crysis. I still think that was accidental fun for them seeing how they couldn't really replicate it with the other two.

Plus they've made only shooters. This is their first try at something else and it has Crytek written all over it. They keep talking about how cinematic it looks, how the face shows emotion, how armor moves as if those things actually matter in the end. They even butchered the flow of combat with those slow motions so the viewer can see how amazing a move looks up close. Dark souls looks like crap yet is a much better game, is like the opposite in everything.

I believe Crytek wants to work in the movie industry and are stuck right now making games.

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#26 shawn30
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At its heart its a brawler. For some brawlers are just to simple. Its not everyone's cup of tea. And up until only within the last month has the game been in a build where it could show off its gameplay fully. But for some its just not anything special outside of great graphics. For me, being a Spartacus junkie and loving the raw, bloody, craziness of that era no matter the review score its a day 1 game for me. There are a couple of really good and really bad previews for the game. Judge for yourself.

Loading Video...

Good preview:http://venturebeat.com/2013/11/06/ryse-son-of-rome-isnt-xbox-ones-god-of-war-and-thats-ok-preview/

http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2013/11/08/ryse-son-of-rome-preview/

http://www.dealspwn.com/ryse-son-rome-handson-preview-bloody-brutal-beautiful-159710

Bad preview: http://www.joystiq.com/2013/11/06/ryse-son-of-rome-and-its-low-slung-combat-ceiling/

http://www.destructoid.com/ryse-son-of-rome-a-time-of-great-unrest-265037.phtml

http://www.shacknews.com/article/81910/ryse-son-of-rome-preview-pretty-boring

Judge for yourself. I'm all in though.

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#27  Edited By Chutebox
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@danabo: This guy nailed it. Everything but graphics looks poor to me

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#28  Edited By SuddenlyTragic
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@edidili: Yeah I guess I have to agree with you on that to some extent come to think of it. I did like Crysis 2 though, but Crysis 3 was awful (Crysis 2.5 but way worse).

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#29  Edited By SonofK
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If it actually beats KZ and Knack I don't think will be seeing cows on here for a while.

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#30 psymon100
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@SonofK said:

If it actually beats KZ and Knack I don't think will be seeing cows on here for a while.

I wonder if every Xbox One launch retail exclusive could score 7, or higher.

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#31  Edited By k2theswiss
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it's because of the first impression. just like the x1 the first impression hurt it.

The ps4 had a great first impression but it's down hill now.

The x1 first impression was bad, but all up hill now!

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#32  Edited By PraetorianMan
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@kuu2 said:

@PraetorianMan said:

@kuu2 said:

Easy.......

Fear leads to anger.

Anger leads to hate.

Hate leads to suffering.

In this example Sony Fan has hate and ultimately it forces them to suffer with poor purchasing decisions, dreadful launch games, and faulty hardware.

Pity them.

Wrong.

Anger leads to Fear

Fear leads to Suffering

Suffering leads to Hate.

OR:

Chicken leads to Egg

Egg leads to Omelet.

Omelet leads to Fecal Urgency.

I assume someone will know what I'm referring to.

You might want to check your quote.

Yeah, you didn't get what I was referring to.

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#34 shellcase86
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Looks decent to me. Visual good looking, combat was ok. I was really impressed with the animations. I think, like Killzone, it's suffering from the despair of high hopes.

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@nervmeister: Gamers overall, not only cows, were bashing Ryse even before Killzone flopped

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#36 StormyJoe
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@SuddenlyTragic:

Because cows can't have it.

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#37  Edited By Bread_or_Decide
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@SuddenlyTragic said:

I know that Sony fanboys are hating on Ryse because it's on Xbox but it seems like everyone is expecting it to just be mediocre or completely suck. Why is this (and I'd like an unbiased response)? Crytek has made nothing but great games ever since their first game, Far Cry. I haven't decided on which console I'm going to buy first, but have been leaning towards the One recently based on the somewhat negative reception of the PS4 and the fact that I've always liked the Xbox more when it comes to console gaming. But anyway, I personally think this game looks badass so where is all of the negativity coming from exactly?

Hate is on the....RYSE....amirite.

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#38  Edited By deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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@Basinboy said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@Vatusus said:

Its the same situation as Knack i.e. linear, repetitive, dull

It has pretty graphics though

Actually knack is a perfect example, Ryse only let's you use a sword and shield apparently. Much like Knack with his Fists.

You can also use spears.

On topic, Ryse is made by Crytek who had the audacity to call Crysis 3 a game and believes all games will be F2P. And I don't even need to start addressing all the problems with Ryse's development process and its lackluster offerings.

Whats the prob with Crysis 3? I actually liked it more than Crysis 1 and 2

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@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@Vatusus said:

Its the same situation as Knack i.e. linear, repetitive, dull

It has pretty graphics though

Actually knack is a perfect example, Ryse only let's you use a sword and shield apparently. Much like Knack with his Fists.

See, this is what I am talking about. There is a demo video right now showing how you can use a spear in both melee and use it as a projectile.

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@StormyJoe said:

See, this is what I am talking about. There is a demo video right now showing how you can use a spear in both melee and use it as a projectile.

Yeah we've seen that but is pretty basic, just throw a spear.

People want a bit more variation in weapons. In GoW for example you have different weapons that give you different combat styles. Arkham is mainly punch but you get some variation in gadgets. In Dark souls you have sword and shield but you have dual welding too, big blunt weapons, a spear that is not just for throwing. AC has various weapons too although that has always been a bit shallow swordplay wise.

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#42  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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@edidili said:

@StormyJoe said:

See, this is what I am talking about. There is a demo video right now showing how you can use a spear in both melee and use it as a projectile.

Yeah we've seen that but is pretty basic, just throw a spear.

People want a bit more variation in weapons. In GoW for example you have different weapons that give you different combat styles. Arkham is mainly punch but you get some variation in gadgets. In Dark souls you have sword and shield but you have dual welding too, big blunt weapons, a spear that is not just for throwing. AC has various weapons too although that has always been a bit shallow swordplay wise.

So it's really just throwing a spear?

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#44  Edited By Basinboy
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@Vatusus said:

@Basinboy said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@Vatusus said:

Its the same situation as Knack i.e. linear, repetitive, dull

It has pretty graphics though

Actually knack is a perfect example, Ryse only let's you use a sword and shield apparently. Much like Knack with his Fists.

You can also use spears.

On topic, Ryse is made by Crytek who had the audacity to call Crysis 3 a game and believes all games will be F2P. And I don't even need to start addressing all the problems with Ryse's development process and its lackluster offerings.

Whats the prob with Crysis 3? I actually liked it more than Crysis 1 and 2

Overglorified tech demo. It also puts all nonsensical plots to shame with one of the biggest "WTF" endings ever.

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#45 Joedgabe
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@kuu2 said:

Easy.......

Fear leads to anger.

Anger leads to hate.

Hate leads to suffering.

In this example Sony Fan has hate and ultimately it forces them to suffer with poor purchasing decisions, dreadful launch games, and faulty hardware.

Pity them.

Enjoy the game then, it was clearly meant for people like you ;) go purchase it hurry! it might be sold out everywhere in seconds!!!

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#47  Edited By StormyJoe
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@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@edidili said:

@StormyJoe said:

See, this is what I am talking about. There is a demo video right now showing how you can use a spear in both melee and use it as a projectile.

Yeah we've seen that but is pretty basic, just throw a spear.

People want a bit more variation in weapons. In GoW for example you have different weapons that give you different combat styles. Arkham is mainly punch but you get some variation in gadgets. In Dark souls you have sword and shield but you have dual welding too, big blunt weapons, a spear that is not just for throwing. AC has various weapons too although that has always been a bit shallow swordplay wise.

So it's really just throwing a spear?

No. As you progress in the game, you unlock new attacks. The spear has melee and ranged attacks. There also is a crossbow/bow and arrow

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Plays like shit.

Anybody who has played Devil May Cry, God of War, Ninja Gaiden will agree. For the n00bs, QTE and robot animations will do

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#49  Edited By StormyJoe
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@Douevenlift_bro said:

Plays like shit.

Anybody who has played Devil May Cry, God of War, Ninja Gaiden will agree. For the n00bs, QTE and robot animations will do

Glad you have played it. Please, enlighten me on the combat mechanics as the game advances.

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@StormyJoe said:

@Douevenlift_bro said:

Plays like shit.

Anybody who has played Devil May Cry, God of War, Ninja Gaiden will agree. For the n00bs, QTE and robot animations will do

Glad you have played it. Please, enlighten me on the combat mechanics as the game advances.

Have you seen Ryse? .... Please compare the fluidity of combat to any of the games I mentioned. Do so without servicing Bill Gates at the same time