why are multiplatformers always better on the 360?

This topic is locked from further discussion.

Avatar image for Blue_Panda
Blue_Panda

1293

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#1 Blue_Panda
Member since 2006 • 1293 Posts

i mean i personally think that its akward- cod4 has more players, rockband and gh3 have compatible guitars, and more tracks, gta will have more things and exclusive xtras, assasssins creed has achieve's.

what else? i h8 this fact.

Avatar image for deavincalhoun
deavincalhoun

663

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#2 deavincalhoun
Member since 2007 • 663 Posts
cause more people will buy the 360 version.
Avatar image for Jynxzor
Jynxzor

9313

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#3 Jynxzor
Member since 2003 • 9313 Posts
Some games are debatably better on the PS3.
Avatar image for Kaycm117
Kaycm117

170

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#4 Kaycm117
Member since 2006 • 170 Posts

cause more people will buy the 360 version.deavincalhoun

qft. The 360 has a much higher attach rate for games.

Avatar image for rocoswav
rocoswav

804

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#5 rocoswav
Member since 2005 • 804 Posts

Some games are debatably better on the PS3.Jynxzor

thats true

Avatar image for AdrianWerner
AdrianWerner

28441

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#6 AdrianWerner
Member since 2003 • 28441 Posts
Quite many are better on PC than on 360
Avatar image for kaos-hero
kaos-hero

1323

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#7 kaos-hero
Member since 2007 • 1323 Posts
PS3 only sold 3 million world wide. No one likes it and the Cows write 360 Sucks at Toys'R'Us. I'm glad the PS3 is failing, I hate fanboys.
Avatar image for TkLive
TkLive

730

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#8 TkLive
Member since 2007 • 730 Posts

Because developers make the mistake of developing for the 360 and then porting to the PS3.

As Criterion has shown us, developing for the PS3 and porting to the 360 is the way to go for identical versions.

Avatar image for enygma500
enygma500

3004

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#9 enygma500
Member since 2005 • 3004 Posts

PS3 only sold 3 million world wide. No one likes it and the Cows write 360 Sucks at Toys'R'Us. I'm glad the PS3 is failing, I hate fanboys.kaos-hero

last i seen the ps3 was up to 8 mill world wide...the 360 is going to fizzle out nextyear i think.

Avatar image for the_dark-knight
the_dark-knight

455

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#10 the_dark-knight
Member since 2007 • 455 Posts
Because developers usually develop for 360 first, then port to PS3(which does not port very well). Its better when a game is created for PS3 then ported to 360. And not all games are better on 360 such as: Oblivion, Devil May Cry 4, and Burnout.
Avatar image for raynimrod
raynimrod

6862

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#12 raynimrod
Member since 2005 • 6862 Posts
[QUOTE="Blue_Panda"]

i mean i personally think that its akward- cod4 has more players, rockband and gh3 have compatible guitars, and more tracks, gta will have more things and exclusive xtras, assasssins creed has achieve's.

what else? i h8 this fact.

L1qu1dSword

The PS3 versions are often

-graphically inferior

-framerate issues

-freezing(assassain's creed)

-plus you suck if you own a ps3



Yeh you suck if you own a ps3 :roll:

Grow up kid.
Avatar image for RIZDRAVER
RIZDRAVER

247

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#13 RIZDRAVER
Member since 2007 • 247 Posts

Here are a handful of PS3 devs explanations of why:

http://jbooth.blogspot.com/2007/10/ps3-misconceptions-and-spin.html

http://daveasbell.blogspot.com/2007/08/trouble-with-ps3.html

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=40458

In a nutshell, the PS3 has a vastly inferior GPU paired with SPU's (that were not initially designed to handle video game code) forcing devs to spend atleast 5 times the amount of time to get their code to be parallelized, along with sending the graphics code to the SPU's for back-culling to make up for the extremely weak GPU Sony selected.

Thus the GPU hurts multiplats graphics, as seen in the countless PS3 titles with half the frame rate as their 360 counterparts.

And the split parallel architecture of the cell is horrific when it comes to branching, which in turn hurts AI siginificantly, as commented on by Charles Tremblay, Ubisoft dev on why the PS3 version of Assassin's Creed had much inferior AI.

Avatar image for L1qu1dSword
L1qu1dSword

2835

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#14 L1qu1dSword
Member since 2006 • 2835 Posts
[QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"][QUOTE="Blue_Panda"]

i mean i personally think that its akward- cod4 has more players, rockband and gh3 have compatible guitars, and more tracks, gta will have more things and exclusive xtras, assasssins creed has achieve's.

what else? i h8 this fact.

raynimrod

The PS3 versions are often

-graphically inferior

-framerate issues

-freezing(assassain's creed)

-plus you suck if you own a ps3

Yeh you suck if you own a ps3 :roll:

Grow up kid.

OK I'll just use a more adult approach and utilize a euphimism.....you are....special....if you own a ps3.
Avatar image for Danm_999
Danm_999

13924

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 7

User Lists: 0

#15 Danm_999
Member since 2003 • 13924 Posts

They aren't.

Oblivion, C&C 3, Bioshock, COD 4, and the Orange Box are all examples of were the 360 version is inferior to another.

Avatar image for TkLive
TkLive

730

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#16 TkLive
Member since 2007 • 730 Posts

They aren't.

Oblivion, C&C 3, Bioshock, COD 4, and the Orange Box are all examples of were the 360 version is inferior to another.

Danm_999

Don't forget Supreme Commander and World in Conflict. :)

They haven't been released yet, but they look terrible.

Avatar image for bvinton45
bvinton45

74

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#17 bvinton45
Member since 2005 • 74 Posts

Look at November's NPD numbers it tells you why developers lead with the360. COD4 (360) 1.57 million...COD4 (PS3) 444,000 Assassin's Creed (360) 980,000 vs. PS3 377,000. If you were deciding where your money maker is it is going to be on the 360. Does anyone know how many games an average 360 owner purchases in a year vs. a PS3 owner? I bet it is significant difference. Unitl the attach rate gets better this will not change for the PS3.

Avatar image for LordXelNaga
LordXelNaga

1161

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#18 LordXelNaga
Member since 2005 • 1161 Posts
Seems that the lemmings are making the most out of this argument while they can. Twelve months ago they could have made these claims with ease, but the industry trend is showing that games are increasingly appearing equal on both consoles. Most high key multiplats being released at the moment are nigh on identical on both platforms. Then of course they can't use GeOW now because the general concensus is that Uncharted is the current console graphics king.
Avatar image for Verge_6
Verge_6

20282

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#19 Verge_6
Member since 2007 • 20282 Posts
Because, at the moment, the 360 is doing much better than the PS3. This means that 3rd party devs will naturally make it the primary platform to develop their games. It's not a factor of console power or the like...simply the amount of effort the devs are willing to put into each version.
Avatar image for L1qu1dSword
L1qu1dSword

2835

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#20 L1qu1dSword
Member since 2006 • 2835 Posts

Seems that the lemmings are making the most out of this argument while they can. Twelve months ago they could have made these claims with ease, but the industry trend is showing that games are increasingly appearing equal on both consoles. Most high key multiplats being released at the moment are nigh on identical on both platforms. Then of course they can't use GeOW now because the general concensus is that Uncharted is the current console graphics king.LordXelNaga

that's the general concensus from sony fanboys but they are also the same people that tell you to go buy LAIR.

Avatar image for RIZDRAVER
RIZDRAVER

247

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#21 RIZDRAVER
Member since 2007 • 247 Posts

Seems that the lemmings are making the most out of this argument while they can. Twelve months ago they could have made these claims with ease, but the industry trend is showing that games are increasingly appearing equal on both consoles. Most high key multiplats being released at the moment are nigh on identical on both platforms. Then of course they can't use GeOW now because the general concensus is that Uncharted is the current console graphics king.LordXelNaga
You mention PS3 exclusives: Uncharted, Resistance, R&C, etc. It should be pointed out that Naughty Dog is part of Sony World Wide Studios and Insomnic is an exclusive partner with Sony.

They get millions of dollars funnelled from Sony, extra resources and time to complete projects along with the limited responsibility of only focusing on the PS3 platform.

If Sony lines the pockets of a dev to waste extensive amounts of time programming for their overcomplicated architecture so it can approach the quality of the XBOX 360, it doesn't mean ANY third party dev is going to waste the same time/money doing so.

But I guess you believe the rest are all "lazy"?

Tim Sweeney (Epic, Unreal series), Charles Tremblay (Ubisoft, Assassin's Creed), Gabe Newell (Valve, Half Life/Counterstrike/Portal series) John Carmack (id Software, Doom/Quake series) Dave Asbell (EA) Jason Booth (Harmonix, Guitar Hero/Rockband series) amongst 4-5 other Japanese devs all publically state that the PS3 is overcomplicated and/or overall an inferior machine to program for than the 360.

Avatar image for L1qu1dSword
L1qu1dSword

2835

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#23 L1qu1dSword
Member since 2006 • 2835 Posts
[QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"][QUOTE="Blue_Panda"]

i mean i personally think that its akward- cod4 has more players, rockband and gh3 have compatible guitars, and more tracks, gta will have more things and exclusive xtras, assasssins creed has achieve's.

what else? i h8 this fact.

Khanezhyray

The PS3 versions are often

-graphically inferior

-framerate issues

-freezing(assassain's creed)

-plus you suck if you own a ps3

L1qu1dSword is allwaysright

-A lemming

-Doesn't know what he's talking about(even though he claims he does)

-Has barely touched a PS3 even though he claims to have "experience" with both consoles

Fatality.

I owned ps2, gamecube, and 360 last gen. I don't see how that makes me a fanboy of any sort.

Avatar image for Danm_999
Danm_999

13924

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 7

User Lists: 0

#24 Danm_999
Member since 2003 • 13924 Posts
[QUOTE="Khanezhyray"][QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"][QUOTE="Blue_Panda"]

i mean i personally think that its akward- cod4 has more players, rockband and gh3 have compatible guitars, and more tracks, gta will have more things and exclusive xtras, assasssins creed has achieve's.

what else? i h8 this fact.

L1qu1dSword

The PS3 versions are often

-graphically inferior

-framerate issues

-freezing(assassain's creed)

-plus you suck if you own a ps3

L1qu1dSword is allwaysright

-A lemming

-Doesn't know what he's talking about(even though he claims he does)

-Has barely touched a PS3 even though he claims to have "experience" with both consoles

Fatality.

I owned ps2, gamecube, and 360 last gen. I don't see how that makes me a fanboy of any sort.

You had a 360 last generation?

Avatar image for L1qu1dSword
L1qu1dSword

2835

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#25 L1qu1dSword
Member since 2006 • 2835 Posts
[QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"][QUOTE="Khanezhyray"][QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"][QUOTE="Blue_Panda"]

i mean i personally think that its akward- cod4 has more players, rockband and gh3 have compatible guitars, and more tracks, gta will have more things and exclusive xtras, assasssins creed has achieve's.

what else? i h8 this fact.

Danm_999

The PS3 versions are often

-graphically inferior

-framerate issues

-freezing(assassain's creed)

-plus you suck if you own a ps3

L1qu1dSword is allwaysright

-A lemming

-Doesn't know what he's talking about(even though he claims he does)

-Has barely touched a PS3 even though he claims to have "experience" with both consoles

Fatality.

I owned ps2, gamecube, and 360 last gen. I don't see how that makes me a fanboy of any sort.

You had a 360 last generation?

I was the first to get one.

Avatar image for ff7isnumbaone
ff7isnumbaone

5352

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#26 ff7isnumbaone
Member since 2005 • 5352 Posts
so how many superior ports can you count that aren't from ea?
Avatar image for L1qu1dSword
L1qu1dSword

2835

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#27 L1qu1dSword
Member since 2006 • 2835 Posts

so how many superior ports can you count that aren't from ea?ff7isnumbaone

oh plz the old "blame EA" anything to distract people from the fact that the ps3 has graphics that are slightly worse then the 360.

Avatar image for raynimrod
raynimrod

6862

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#28 raynimrod
Member since 2005 • 6862 Posts
[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"][QUOTE="Khanezhyray"][QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"][QUOTE="Blue_Panda"]

i mean i personally think that its akward- cod4 has more players, rockband and gh3 have compatible guitars, and more tracks, gta will have more things and exclusive xtras, assasssins creed has achieve's.

what else? i h8 this fact.

L1qu1dSword

The PS3 versions are often

-graphically inferior

-framerate issues

-freezing(assassain's creed)

-plus you suck if you own a ps3

L1qu1dSword is allwaysright

-A lemming

-Doesn't know what he's talking about(even though he claims he does)

-Has barely touched a PS3 even though he claims to have "experience" with both consoles

Fatality.

I owned ps2, gamecube, and 360 last gen. I don't see how that makes me a fanboy of any sort.

You had a 360 last generation?

I was the first to get one.



Lol i told before to grow up - you were the first to have one LOL!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA
Avatar image for patrickjw333
patrickjw333

809

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#29 patrickjw333
Member since 2004 • 809 Posts

PS3 only sold 3 million world wide. No one likes it and the Cows write 360 Sucks at Toys'R'Us. I'm glad the PS3 is failing, I hate fanboys.kaos-hero

3 million worldwide wtf :lol:

Avatar image for Corvin
Corvin

7266

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#30 Corvin
Member since 2002 • 7266 Posts
Burnout Paradise will be better on the PS3. It couldn't possibly run any worse than the 360 version does, with its lovely inconsistant framerates.
Avatar image for SkullboyX
SkullboyX

6407

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#31 SkullboyX
Member since 2004 • 6407 Posts

[QUOTE="Jynxzor"]Some games are debatably better on the PS3.rocoswav

thats true

.................................. no................ it's not.