Why are people saying UT3 looks bad?

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#1 catlin_czirr
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I just played the demo, and I took a screenshot of it, it's maxed out, and I compared it to an early screenshot of the game I found off google, and well it looks the same to me. Top is screenshot from my comp, bottom is image from google. Right click and view image to see it full screen.

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#2 Always-Honest
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looks good to me.. although the target screen is post processed...

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#3 Zeliard9
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I don't know why people are saying it looks bad. Compressed pics I recently took @ max settings:

On what planet does that not look good?

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#4 Velocitas8
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For the record: Only 3 levels of texture detail are available in the demo. There's a total of 5 detail levels that you can select in the demo, but options 4 and 5 do nothing to increase the resolution of textures.

The demo looks great. But expect the retail game to look much better. Apparently using higher quality textures will offer little to no performance hit if you have a decent amount of VRAM, thanks to texture streaming.

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#5 catlin_czirr
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What does "post processed" mean?
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#6 Zeliard9
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For the record: Only 3 levels of texture detail are available in the demo. There's a total of 5 detail levels that you can select in the demo, but options 4 and 5 do nothing to increase the resolution of textures.

The demo looks great. But expect the retail game to look much better. Apparently using higher quality textures will offer little to no performance hit if you have a decent amount of VRAM, thanks to texture streaming.

Velocitas8

Yep, the highest settings aren't even unlocked and it still looks great. People just like to complain, not taking into account that a demo weighing in at less than 800 megs probably doesn't have any high-res textures included.

It's the same thing with CoD4. People are complaining about the graphics when the highest settings aren't even unlocked. Same thing with the Crysis beta, too, for that matter. Guess this sort of thing should just be expected. Release demos and betas at your own peril, developers.

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#7 ut3nophysics
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http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/7106/68922746ml8.jpg

graphics settings^ max

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/3971/a1rk6.jpg

picture of my screen res^ in ut3^

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/124/65162841gr2.jpg

screenshot of me overlooking map getting 27 fps no bots or anything.

im not flaming the game because it runs crap, the gameplay feels dated and the maps suck, no physics objects the weapons suck, doom3 is better sorry.

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#8 ut3nophysics
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SHOW ME YOUR FRAMERATE, I GET ABSOLUTE HORRIBLE FRAMES ON A 7800 GTX 256 MB MAX 1280x1024 no anti aliasing.
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#9 Zeliard9
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SHOW ME YOUR FRAMERATE, I GET ABSOLUTE HORRIBLE FRAMES ON A 7800 GTX 256 MB MAX 1280x1024 no anti aliasing.ut3nophysics

I've got a quad core @ 2.4 ghz w/ a 8800 GTX, but I'm getting constant 60+ FPS at max settings (incl. 16x AF), @ 1680x1050. Here's an action pic as proof, so it's not like I'm just standing looking at a wall and getting high fps (on bottom right):



And did I mention the game looks great?
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#10 Zeliard9
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SHOW ME YOUR FRAMERATE, I GET ABSOLUTE HORRIBLE FRAMES ON A 7800 GTX 256 MB MAX 1280x1024 no anti aliasing.ut3nophysics

I've got a quad core @ 2.4 ghz w/ a 8800 GTX, but I'm getting basically constant 60+ FPS at max settings (incl. 16x AF), @ 1680x1050. Here's an action pic as proof, so it's not like I'm just standing looking at a wall and getting high fps (on bottom right):



And did I mention the game looks great?
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#11 ut3nophysics
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I sure hope 600$ 8800 gtx maintains a solid 60 fps at that low resolution with no anti aliasing i would be pissed if it didnt, the game runs terrible on my 7800 gtx 256 mb, the 8800 gtx is so much more powerful it's crazy, so even if the games poorly optimized the 8800 gtx will still demolish it,ut3 is badly optimized though.
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#12 ut3nophysics
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ARE YOU RUNNING THE SCREEN PERCENTAGE AT 100 %? THE 8800 GTX OWNER?
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#13 Velocitas8
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By the way, you can uncap your framerate with an .ini edit.
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#14 Velocitas8
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ARE YOU RUNNING THE SCREEN PERCENTAGE AT 100 %? THE 8800 GTX OWNER?ut3nophysics

Anyone who has recent hardware should see the "screen percentage" setting default to 100%.

If you have older hardware, you'll see it default to a lower value.

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#15 wiganath
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It is a very good looking game. However, the problem is compared to what is already out on PC and even consoles it isn't as mind blowing as people hoped.

It really doesn't look that much better than something like Gears.

It is early though, so no doubt it will get better.

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#16 ut3nophysics
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[QUOTE="ut3nophysics"]ARE YOU RUNNING THE SCREEN PERCENTAGE AT 100 %? THE 8800 GTX OWNER?Velocitas8

Anyone who has recent hardware should see the "screen percentage" setting default to 100%.

If you have older hardware, you'll see it default to a lower value.

nope, it's not set at same settings for everyone.

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#17 Velocitas8
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It is a very good looking game. However, the problem is compared to what is already out on PC and even consoles it isn't as mind blowing as people hoped.

It really doesn't look that much better than something like Gears.

It is early though, so no doubt it will get better.

wiganath

It already is better, but full graphical options aren't available in the demo.

It definitely looks better than Gears despite being limited to medium textures. Technically, and in terms of art-style.

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#18 Zeliard9
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By the way, you can uncap your framerate with an .ini edit.Velocitas8

I was wondering why I wasn't getting more than 62'ish FPS, actually. Figured that the demo just forced vsync, or something.

And yes, ut3nophysics, screen size is at 100%. Post-processing is also at "insane", or whatever that level is. I actually missed that setting the first time around. I wonder how many never bothered to change it, since I think it defaults at normal.

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#19 Velocitas8
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nope, it's not set at 100% for gtx ownersut3nophysics

It should be. What Forceware version are you running?

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#20 ut3nophysics
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show framerate screenshot on this shangi level http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/124/65162841gr2.jpg

1280x1024 100% screen percentage.

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#21 ut3nophysics
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[QUOTE="ut3nophysics"]nope, it's not set at 100% for gtx ownersVelocitas8

It should be. What Forceware version are you running?

I cant even access my goddamn control panel with these lastest nvidia drivers.

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i think sli support my be defaulted to on kill my framerates but i cant get to option to turn it off like i used to beable to this sucks nvidia sucks.

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#22 Velocitas8
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[QUOTE="Velocitas8"]By the way, you can uncap your framerate with an .ini edit.Zeliard9

I was wondering why I wasn't getting more than 62'ish FPS, actually. Figured that the demo just forced vsync, or something.

Nah it's just a simple framerate limiter, not sure what real purpose it has.

See here.

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#23 Velocitas8
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I cant even access my goddamn control panel with these lastest nvidia drivers.

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i think sli support my be defaulted to on kill my framerates but i cant get to option to turn it off like i used to beable to this sucks nvidia sucks.

ut3nophysics

Get nHancer. The default nVidia control panel sucks anyways.

It also properly manages SLI profiles, and automatically disables them completely upon installation if you're running a single-card setup.

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#24 Zeliard9
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show framerate screenshot on this shangi level http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/124/65162841gr2.jpg

1280x1024 100% screen percentage.

ut3nophysics

It's the same, man. Hell I didn't even know you could uncap your FPS, and even without doing that I'm still getting 60+ FPS. Probably be noticeably more if I uncap. Why are you maxing your settings out, anyway? Don't you have a crappy CPU? Frames should be your priority, not graphics. Seems to me like you're just trying to stress your rig, and then blaming the game when it doesn't go well.

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#25 ut3nophysics
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Hmmm i can max out Quake wars enemy terrtory 1600x1200 x4 anti aliasing x16 af everything maxed completly solid 30 fps with cap.
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#26 ut3nophysics
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[QUOTE="ut3nophysics"]

show framerate screenshot on this shangi level http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/124/65162841gr2.jpg

1280x1024 100% screen percentage.

Zeliard9

It's the same, man. Hell I didn't even know you could uncap your FPS, and even without doing that I'm still getting 60+ FPS. Probably be noticeably more if I uncap. Why are you maxing your settings out, anyway? Don't you have a crappy CPU? Frames should be your priority, not graphics. Seems to me like you're just trying to stress your rig, and then blaming the game when it doesn't go well.

LOL, yea a athlon 64 3800+ 2.4 ghz socket 939 is terrible.

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#27 ut3nophysics
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You dont even need a dualcore for crysis really.

There's no excuse for unreal tournament 3 being so poorly optimized even the looking feels so screwed up the game doesnt even feel like unreal anymore.

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#28 ut3nophysics
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The sad thing is unreal tournament's looking is completly terrible it's fubared, the textures are constantly loading in pop in /hitches even when i shoot a gun it has to load the bullet lol, i know my pc's fine f.e.a.r quakewars everything runs great it's just this horrible optimized pos called unreal trash 3.
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#29 ut3nophysics
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I was gonna say this also, i can overclocked from 2.4 ghz to 2.8 ghz and shows no framerate improvement in unreal tournament at even at 1024x768 a cpu limited resolution, while in doom3 it actually gains huge frames from overclocks.

Not to mention unreal engine 3.0 barly even supports anti aliasing and it's a blurry mess horrible texture streaming etc.

unreal engine 3.0 need's a be canned it's a piece of crap, devs should of used doom3 engine .

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[QUOTE="ut3nophysics"]SHOW ME YOUR FRAMERATE, I GET ABSOLUTE HORRIBLE FRAMES ON A 7800 GTX 256 MB MAX 1280x1024 no anti aliasing.Zeliard9

I've got a quad core @ 2.4 ghz w/ a 8800 GTX, but I'm getting basically constant 60+ FPS at max settings (incl. 16x AF), @ 1680x1050. Here's an action pic as proof, so it's not like I'm just standing looking at a wall and getting high fps (on bottom right):



And did I mention the game looks great?

DUDE!! LMAO LOOK AT THE ROCKET!! IT HAS A FACE!! " X) "

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#31 ut3nophysics
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tim sweeney is one of the worst engine creators ever you suck buddy you need to be serving me burgers at mcdonalds, you aint no john carmack you wannabe.

cant code for ****

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#32 Zeliard9
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DUDE!! LMAO LOOK AT THE ROCKET!! IT HAS A FACE!! " X) "

zero_snake99

:lol: I didn't even notice that. Nice.

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#33 ChiChiMonKilla
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[QUOTE="Zeliard9"]

[QUOTE="Velocitas8"]By the way, you can uncap your framerate with an .ini edit.Velocitas8

I was wondering why I wasn't getting more than 62'ish FPS, actually. Figured that the demo just forced vsync, or something.

Nah it's just a simple framerate limiter, not sure what real purpose it has.

See here.

go to the advanced tab there you will see the fps cap at default 50 it goes up to 99 on my gaming pc specs now in my sig edit

Seems my fps is capped at 99 no matter what rez or what's turned on it won't go any higher but I have not tried to hack the ini file yet.

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#34 EntwineX
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Someone just on another thread said it runs well on 6600GT, so it can't be THAT badly optimized. Just accept the fact that you need to lower the settings a bit, and if the higher res textures are available in the final version you should get a nice visual upgrade with a small performance hit.

But why are all the screenies like they have brightness set too high or contrast too low, or maybe it's just my monitor since I'm not on my own PC.

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#35 Lonelynight
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Damn the demo looks and runs like crap on my crap PC :( I'm so jealos of you guys :cry:
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#36 Vandalvideo
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But why are all the screenies like they have brightness set too high or contrast too low, or maybe it's just my monitor since I'm not on my own PC.EntwineX
Because theres enough bloom to stun a blind kid. I nearly knocked over my coke when me and Smokey were skyserfing yesterday on suspense. SO MUCH BLOOM ON THAT ***** WATERFALL.
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#37 mistervengeance
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when i play it it looks horrible

looks like a ps1 game

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#38 Vandalvideo
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when i play it it looks horrible

looks like a ps1 game

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I find that really hard to believe. I'm playing it on max settings and it runs smooth as crap on my 7900gs.
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#39 froidnite
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People complain the game looks bad because they are too ignorant to read that some of the graphics options can't be maxxed out in the betademo.
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#40 pastro243
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Its simply because they cant admit its better than gearsn of wars
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[QUOTE="ut3nophysics"]SHOW ME YOUR FRAMERATE, I GET ABSOLUTE HORRIBLE FRAMES ON A 7800 GTX 256 MB MAX 1280x1024 no anti aliasing.Zeliard9

I've got a quad core @ 2.4 ghz w/ a 8800 GTX, but I'm getting constant 60+ FPS at max settings (incl. 16x AF), @ 1680x1050. Here's an action pic as proof, so it's not like I'm just standing looking at a wall and getting high fps (on bottom right):



And did I mention the game looks great?

Nice smiley face on the back of that bullet :)