Why are people so obssessed with powerful console specs?

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#1 nchan
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Really. People, especially system war peeps, seem to think that innovation means having more powerful specs and more photo-realistic graphics. Please wake up and smell the coffee. This approach is very bad for the game industry.

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#2 Fightingfan
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Consoles and photo-realistic graphics shouldn't even be used together in the same sentence...
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#3 mrmusicman247
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You come to website which is teeming with computer nerds and you ask why want want to hear console specs?
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#4 WilliamRLBaker
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I don't know but I think David Jaffe said it best this e3 he would rather see a game go down 20% in visuals to offer good content and replayability and allow the publisher to release more games. Instead of them releasing at current graphics levels and costing the developer and publisher so much to make so they only make a game once in a while.

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#5 KC_Hokie
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Really. People, especially system war peeps, seem to think that innovation means having more powerful specs and more photo-realistic graphics. Please wake up and smell the coffee. This approach is very bad for the game industry.

nchan
Most innovation in gaming requires powerful hardware whether it's a powerful gpu, cpu, ram, etc. And for the next generation to last 7+ years like this one they will need powerful specs otherwise developers will abandon the platform (i.e. lack of third party on Wii).
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#6 Pug-Nasty
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Power is used for more than just pumping out graphics, so I don't see why it's weird that people would want more powerful systems.

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#7 trugs26
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Power is used for more than just pumping out graphics, so I don't see why it's weird that people would want more powerful systems.

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But with this thought process, no one is ever satisfied. Well not for a very long time. You can always want more. The push for more power is fine, but an obsession with it is ridiculous.

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#8 Vyse_Legends
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Because some people get offdue tothat kind of information.:P

I'm not one of them since I don't understand any of it.:lol:

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#9 godzillavskong
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ITs just most people's, or should I say men's nature. We do it in all walks of life.We do it with cars, it has to have the biggest engine, best rims, etc.. We do it with electronics like tv's , they have to have the best 1080p ,240hz, 80 inch LED, or car audio, with the 2000 watt amps, enormous subwoofers , etc. Its no different with people wanting the best out of a console. Most gamers prefer gameplay, but there is no doubt that the more power will give developers more room to make these games more engrossing. OH, and the graphics !

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#10 Pug-Nasty
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[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

Power is used for more than just pumping out graphics, so I don't see why it's weird that people would want more powerful systems.

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But with this thought process, no one is ever satisfied. Well not for a very long time. You can always want more. The push for more power is fine, but an obsession with it is ridiculous.

People are never satisfied with what they have or what is available. As soon as you get what you want, the next best thing pops up on your radar.

That's just the way people are.

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#11 halokillerz
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think of battlefield. More processing power lets u have destrutible environments with smooth framerates. However, most fanboy just want to say their console is more powerful

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#12 tmaclabi
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I guess having more powerful consoles makes one cooler.
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#13 AAllxxjjnn
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Because I want better graphics/art.
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#14 warmaster670
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Really. People, especially system war peeps, seem to think that innovation means having more powerful specs and more photo-realistic graphics.

nchan

lol, who said that aside from your imaginary friend?

Ill break it down for you, more powerful specs = better graphics, better physics, and more possibilities.

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#15 deactivated-5b69bebd1b0b6
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I'd rather have more console power than some new gimmicky wagglestick controller.

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#16 verbtex  Moderator
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Best specs available means that the possibilites are endless. :o

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#17 Nonstop-Madness
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I don't know but I think David Jaffe said it best this e3 he would rather see a game go down 20% in visuals to offer good content and replayability and allow the publisher to release more games. Instead of them releasing at current graphics levels and costing the developer and publisher so much to make so they only make a game once in a while.

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This is probably the first time I have ever agreed with you.
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#18 Mario1331
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people have this idea where power equals more things a system to do when thats not even necessaily true. SMG is one of the highest rated games of all time and the game itself is not that powerful opposed to LBP..

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#19 trugs26
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[QUOTE="trugs26"]

[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

Power is used for more than just pumping out graphics, so I don't see why it's weird that people would want more powerful systems.

Pug-Nasty



But with this thought process, no one is ever satisfied. Well not for a very long time. You can always want more. The push for more power is fine, but an obsession with it is ridiculous.

People are never satisfied with what they have or what is available. As soon as you get what you want, the next best thing pops up on your radar.

That's just the way people are.


No. That's the way some people are. I'm defnitely not like that.

Are you seriously saying you're not satisfied with what you have now? That sure must be a sad life..

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#20 icyseanfitz
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i want more power so something like gta earth is possible, i couldnt really care about graphics tbh, where we are at now is perfectly acceptable its just the lack of content and scope in current games thats annoying me, games havnt gotten any bigger this gen an that is partially down to hardware that isnt up to the job of making bigger game worlds

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#21 turtlethetaffer
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Really. People, especially system war peeps, seem to think that innovation means having more powerful specs and more photo-realistic graphics. Please wake up and smell the coffee. This approach is very bad for the game industry.

nchan

I think it's funny how some people are like "consoles suck because they use old tech!" ... really? Becausse I play plenty of great games on consoles.

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#22 silversix_
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Not a fan of spending 400$+ on a weak system with a gpu that was released 6 years ago.
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#23 edo-tensei
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because more powerfull hardware doesn't always mean better graphics, and let's just leave it at that. You figure out the rest.

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#24 Pug-Nasty
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[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

[QUOTE="trugs26"]

But with this thought process, no one is ever satisfied. Well not for a very long time. You can always want more. The push for more power is fine, but an obsession with it is ridiculous.

trugs26

People are never satisfied with what they have or what is available. As soon as you get what you want, the next best thing pops up on your radar.

That's just the way people are.


No. That's the way some people are. I'm defnitely not like that.

Are you seriously saying you're not satisfied with what you have now? That sure must be a sad life..

That's the way all people are. That doesn't mean you are never happy, just that you always want something more/better than you currently have, which is why we strive to better ourselves.

Not being satisfied is not the same as being miserable.

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#25 topgunmv
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Not a fan of spending 400$+ on a weak system with a gpu that was released 6 years ago. silversix_

^^^That. I don't care if they use less than top of the line parts, just don't charge me a top of the line price if power is skimped on.

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#27 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="verbtex"]

Best specs available means that the possibilites are endless. :o

Cj19_32

THIS!!!^^^

Well the specs on consoles were once the best specs available... so, technically the possibilities are still endless.

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#28 Cj19_32
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The want for specs is what helps drive innovation if people never wanted more we wouldn't have what we have today. I see it this way my want for my games to have a 3D option helps push forward the development of a Holodeck.
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#29 Cj19_32
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[QUOTE="Cj19_32"][QUOTE="verbtex"]

Best specs available means that the possibilites are endless. :o

turtlethetaffer

THIS!!!^^^

Well the specs on consoles were once the best specs available... so, technically the possibilities are still endless.

..............what?
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#30 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="Cj19_32"] THIS!!!^^^Cj19_32

Well the specs on consoles were once the best specs available... so, technically the possibilities are still endless.

..............what?

The poster said that the best specs available means the possibilitys are endless. However, within a month or 2, the best specs will become outdated. However there is still a huge amount of possibilities on the older, inferior tech. Just because something is old doesn't make it usless.

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#31 Cj19_32
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[QUOTE="Cj19_32"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

Well the specs on consoles were once the best specs available... so, technically the possibilities are still endless.

turtlethetaffer

..............what?

The poster said that the best specs available means the possibilitys are endless. However, within a month or 2, the best specs will become outdated. However there is still a huge amount of possibilities on the older, inferior tech. Just because something is old doesn't make it usless.

OOoooh. I get it but eventually people have a right to want and demand more if game consoles never developed better hardware I would have stopped being gamer with my first NES. Better specs better possibilities.
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#32 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="Cj19_32"] ..............what?Cj19_32

The poster said that the best specs available means the possibilitys are endless. However, within a month or 2, the best specs will become outdated. However there is still a huge amount of possibilities on the older, inferior tech. Just because something is old doesn't make it usless.

OOoooh. I get it but eventually people have a right to want and demand more if game consoles never developed better hardware I would have stopped being gamer with my first NES. Better specs better possibilities.

I agree. However, I can't stand it when people think that consoles are crap because they use older tech... there are still excellent games being made for consoles. Agree to disagree I guess.

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#33 Cj19_32
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[QUOTE="Cj19_32"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

The poster said that the best specs available means the possibilitys are endless. However, within a month or 2, the best specs will become outdated. However there is still a huge amount of possibilities on the older, inferior tech. Just because something is old doesn't make it usless.

turtlethetaffer

OOoooh. I get it but eventually people have a right to want and demand more if game consoles never developed better hardware I would have stopped being gamer with my first NES. Better specs better possibilities.

I agree. However, I can't stand it when people think that consoles are crap because they use older tech... there are still excellent games being made for consoles. Agree to disagree I guess.

True true.
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Because when I'm playing Nintendo, I'm playing with Power!
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#35 Wasdie  Moderator
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Without the horsepower developers can't really keep expanding games.

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#36 trugs26
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[QUOTE="trugs26"]

[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

People are never satisfied with what they have or what is available. As soon as you get what you want, the next best thing pops up on your radar.

That's just the way people are.

Pug-Nasty


No. That's the way some people are. I'm defnitely not like that.

Are you seriously saying you're not satisfied with what you have now? That sure must be a sad life..

That's the way all people are. That doesn't mean you are never happy, just that you always want something more/better than you currently have, which is why we strive to better ourselves.

Not being satisfied is not the same as being miserable.



Fair enough.

But are you saying that I'm not satisfied with my 3DS right now? Because it sure feels like I am..

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#37 juno84
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Just because a system has topend hardware doesn't mean every game has to attempt to max out that system. By using dated hardware, you are setting a limitation on what developers can achieve. Lowering the ceiling. Not every game needs to look as good as Witcher 2 or BF3, but it's nice to atleast have the option to make games like that.

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#38 goblaa
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Best specs available means that the possibilites are endless. :o

verbtex

Yet it won't stop developers from making the same games over and over again.

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#39 godzillavskong
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Without the horsepower developers can't really keep expanding games.

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Exactly.
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#40 HaloPimp978
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Because I love great graphics and I want the visuals to be great when I play a game.

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#41 lordlors
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Console owners always bash the wii and even the wii u when the specs aren't revealed yet. they forget how weak the consoles are to gaming PCs and this has always been the case. the thing is if you want real power, you go for pc gaming not consoles.
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#42 verbtex  Moderator
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[QUOTE="verbtex"]

Best specs available means that the possibilites are endless. :o

goblaa

Yet it won't stop developers from making the same games over and over again.

That's true, I read that article on the 6 most ominous trends on cracked.com the other day, and now it makes a little more sense why the same game is made over and over and over again.

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#43 lordlors
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[QUOTE="goblaa"]

[QUOTE="verbtex"]

Best specs available means that the possibilites are endless. :o

verbtex

Yet it won't stop developers from making the same games over and over again.

That's true, I read that article on the 6 most ominous trends on cracked.com the other day, and now it makes a little more sense why the same game is made over and over and over again.

i think nintendo's design philosophy might force developers to think of unique and innovative concepts and ideas. Alas, third party support for nintendo has always been not good.
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#44 Cj19_32
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[QUOTE="goblaa"]

[QUOTE="verbtex"]

Best specs available means that the possibilites are endless. :o

verbtex

Yet it won't stop developers from making the same games over and over again.

That's true, I read that article on the 6 most ominous trends on cracked.com the other day, and now it makes a little more sense why the same game is made over and over and over again.

I hated that article. Simply because its naive to think that games wouldnt have the same symptoms of say Hollywood.
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#45 enterawesome
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I think video game tech should slow down for a bit. The more we push boundaries, the more expensive it gets for developers and publishers.
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#46 glez13
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Because that has basically been the history of videogame consoles since the Magnavox Odyssey all the way until the Wii?

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#47 mitu123
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Um, yeah, it's not just about that, it's what consoles can do with limited hardware in terms of tech like physics, destruction, a.i., etc.

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ITs just most people's, or should I say men's nature. We do it in all walks of life.We do it with cars, it has to have the biggest engine, best rims, etc.. We do it with electronics like tv's , they have to have the best 1080p ,240hz, 80 inch LED, or car audio, with the 2000 watt amps, enormous subwoofers , etc. Its no different with people wanting the best out of a console. Most gamers prefer gameplay, but there is no doubt that the more power will give developers more room to make these games more engrossing. OH, and the graphics !

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That line right there is a bunch of BS! Try telling that to the guys over at the PC hardware forum. To them if you cant run a game at 2500 x 1600 at 60 fps, 16x AA, fully shadows and effects on yada yada, yada, then it isnt worth playing. I personally dont subscribe to this think, but there are many who do. It is unfortunate, but even developers are making visuals the priority. Look at DICE flat out saying that only about 10% of PC gamers will be able to run BF3 at maxed out levels.

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#49 KiZZo1
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Cuz of dem graphicz kingz ...

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#50 LastRambo341
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I'd rather have more console power than some new gimmicky wagglestick controller.

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