Why are so many opposed to Motion Controls?

Hey,

As the title says, why are so many opposed to Motion Controls? I hear things like "I dont want to swing my hands constantly, i'll get tired while I'm trying to relax by gaming" which is really exaggerated imo, when I'm playing Metroid Prime 3 my hand holding the Wii-mote is resting on the side of the chair, its quite relaxing.

Ontop of that Motion Controls are imo the only controls that can touch a mouse/keyboard for precision. Whenever I go back to dual sticks when playing a shooter or any other game that requires some sort of precision I feel almost like a handicap. Ofc there are always games that are played better with a normal controller so there should always be the option for that.

By no means do I say that the Wiimote is perfect, infact it could use alot of improvements since if position your hand in such a way to be able to tap A button easier the D-pad and the controls below become a pain to reach.

So, why are so many "hardcore" gamers opposed to Motion Controls?

I always lay down when playing. I just don't like that concept of playing.

I don't mind if someone likes it. I just hope that it will not become the only way of playing games

I always lay down when playing. I just don't like that concept of playingmamkem6

People fear progress. It's something unknown to them as it's new.

Someone will come along and give an accessory that tried this before but they're not going to mention the Wii mote is a main controller and not an accessory. Doing that would require some form of common sense and reasonability.

Myself I'm glad we're not still using Coleco pads for gaming. We'd still be using such if people would be so anti towards progress.

Why do people always pick the bad examples? Has anyone among you played Metroid Prime 3 or Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition, if you think it's crap that's fine by me, but don't come telling me Zelda this and rippoff34099324 that is bad, ofc the're bad. Motion Controls are only incredibly good for certain genres, shooters in particular.

However, I can understand some not wanting simply because of ''habit'', we've always had normal controllers, so I guess that's a point.

Because arguably,there isn't a single game that is truly better or that could not have been made without motion controls. VGobbsesser

An equally skilled player with a Wiimote will rolfstomp any other gamer using dual sticks if you're playing ANY shooter, given that the control shematic is good.

[QUOTE="mamkem6"]I always lay down when playing. I just don't like that concept of playingPoppaGamer

i always lay down and game.

[QUOTE="VGobbsesser"]Because arguably,there isn't a single game that is truly better or that could not have been made without motion controls. CAPSROGUE

An equally skilled player with a Wiimote will rolfstomp any other game using dual sticks if you're playing ANY shooter, given that the control shematic is good.

Okay.Now prove it to me.

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[QUOTE="VGobbsesser"]Because arguably,there isn't a single game that is truly better or that could not have been made without motion controls. VGobbsesser

An equally skilled player with a Wiimote will rolfstomp any other game using dual sticks if you're playing ANY shooter, given that the control shematic is good.

Okay.Now prove it to me.

This would be difficult to prove. :/ But I understand your point. Basicly the only way to prove it to you is tell you to go play said games on a Wii and see for yourself. You can judge from the singleplayer alone that the controls are incredible.

[QUOTE="mamkem6"]I always lay down when playing. I just don't like that concept of playingPoppaGamer

It is not like when I sleep of cours, lets say something in between, only my head must be in vertical position because I need good view on TV. But still playing in that position with motion controls will be difficult I would have to sit down. But then I can't relax. I like to relax when playing

Alot of people are just too scared to trying something new.

[QUOTE="VGobbsesser"]Because arguably,there isn't a single game that is truly better or that could not have been made without motion controls. CAPSROGUE

An equally skilled player with a Wiimote will rolfstomp any other gamer using dual sticks if you're playing ANY shooter, given that the control shematic is good.

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[QUOTE="VGobbsesser"]Because arguably,there isn't a single game that is truly better or that could not have been made without motion controls. Parasomniac

An equally skilled player with a Wiimote will rolfstomp any other gamer using dual sticks if you're playing ANY shooter, given that the control shematic is good.

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[QUOTE="VGobbsesser"]Because arguably,there isn't a single game that is truly better or that could not have been made without motion controls. Parasomniac

An equally skilled player with a Wiimote will rolfstomp any other gamer using dual sticks if you're playing ANY shooter, given that the control shematic is good.

Well it's defeniantly better then dual sticks, but as I said not perfect. Something like K/M >> Motion Controls >>>>>>>>> Dual Sticks. Most will say it's opinion. this is partially correct. Of course a certain control scheme can feel better then the other but you have to look at the potential imo. With that I mean, if you're playing all 3 controls on a daily basis and got used to all 3, understanding the weaknesses/strengths you can decide which one is simply better. Eventho you might like how another control scheme feels.

I don't think many people actively 'oppose' motion controls, I just think they're maybe waiting for this new system to prove itself - at the moment, there are very few games that show off its potential - as you've said MP3 kind of stands alone.

I think it's like how the DS was first received, with the whole 'gimmick' label - obviously, with stuff like Brain Training and Trauma Center etcetc, no-one really uses that word. The Wii simply needs a boost of really innovative games, and hopefully that'll come with MotionPlus. The sixaxis on the other hand... well, I don't think it's possible to incorporate elements of the classic controller design with new motion-sensing technology - the logistics of it really call for something shaped differently.

I agree with a lot of posters who say that it'd probably be best to wait 'til next generation, when technology is far enough along so that we can have proper 1:1 movement (and hopefully great graphics too!).

Though motion controls are an interesting idea, they are often implemented poorly in games in terms of both mechanics and quality.

Now, some games have made great use of motion control. Super Mario Galaxy's controls are an example of this becaues they don't feel tacked on and actually make you feel like it's the way the game is supposed to be played. However, many games nowadays are developed with standard controllers in mind, then all of a sudden the developers go "O Hay Wait Theres A Motion Controller On This Platform". They're then implemented very poorly into the game's final structure, and ultimately feel tacked on and unnecessary.

Motion controls lack the natural feedback present in the activities they replicate. Try swinging a golf club without being able to feel the weight of the club or the twist of the shaft. Try driving a car without being able to feel the aligning torque in the wheel. Without such feedback, it's much more difficult to make mid-motion corrections.

The exception to this is pointing, where the feedback is provided by your eyes, not your hands. Anyone notice what the Wiimote is best at?

Hey,

As the title says, why are so many opposed to Motion Controls? I hear things like "I dont want to swing my hands constantly, i'll get tired while I'm trying to relax by gaming" which is really exaggerated imo, when I'm playing Metroid Prime 3 my hand holding the Wii-mote is resting on the side of the chair, its quite relaxing.

Ontop of that Motion Controls are imo the only controls that can touch a mouse/keyboard for precision. Whenever I go back to dual sticks when playing a shooter or any other game that requires some sort of precision I feel almost like a handicap. Ofc there are always games that are played better with a normal controller so there should always be the option for that.

By no means do I say that the Wiimote is perfect, infact it could use alot of improvements since if position your hand in such a way to be able to tap A button easier the D-pad and the controls below become a pain to reach.

So, why are so many "hardcore" gamers opposed to Motion Controls?

Because their console manufacturer of choice told them not to like motion controls.

It's not like it really matters. If you don't enjoy motion controls, then it's best you quit this hobby in the next few years. By next generation, you won't have a choice.

Because their console manufacturer of choice told them not to like motion controls.

It's not like it really matters. If you don't enjoy motion controls, then it's best you quit this hobby in the next few years. By next generation, you won't have a choice.

I honestly have no idea. Just the older generation being resistant to change I suppose. I love motion controls when they're done properly but developers need to learn when it isn't neccesary. There is no point in adding waggle.manicfoot

[QUOTE="Dingerious"]

Because their console manufacturer of choice told them not to like motion controls.

It's not like it really matters. If you don't enjoy motion controls, then it's best you quit this hobby in the next few years. By next generation, you won't have a choice.

JediRiff

Well...get used to it.

Has a gamer for 25 years, i have to say Motion Controls is the way forward. I use to play fps games on mouse, and dualshock on ps1 and 2. Playing on the Motion controls have added the best experience for me has a gamer.

since this thread is full of random thing is gone say.

motion controles arent fatt peoples best friends ;)

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Too bad for those who are. If they think next gen won`t have motion sensing in ALL the consoles, they`re blind.

Better start getting used to some work out

Because arguably,there isn't a single game that is truly better or that could not have been made without motion controls. VGobbsesser

A good developer CAN use them well in many ways ... problem is, most people developing them just don't have a clue how to use them. I think many are like quite a few people on this site - who have decided they don't want to like motion controls [or don't know gaming before the current control-generation] and cannot think outside the box as needed to implement these controls well. All IMO.

Because their console manufacturer of choice told them not to like motion controls.

It's not like it really matters. If you don't enjoy motion controls, then it's best you quit this hobby in the next few years. By next generation, you won't have a choice.

Well...get used to it.

[QUOTE="Dingerious"][QUOTE="JediRiff"] I disagree... or rather, I HOPE you are wrong. Motion controls very well may be on all three companies consoles, but I would hope it would at least only be an option. To force it on us, would alienate alot of long time gamers, I think.JediRiff

Well...get used to it.