why are we using gameranking, megacritic- all of a sudden- wtf!!!

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#1 marth678
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why is it all of a sudden im hearing use megacritic and gamerankings. That used to be a "sheep" defense but now im seeing MANY people say use gamerankings, etc. So basically im saying this proves a huge system wars double standard/bias, showing ppl really hate sheep, but the second they get the "sheep treatment" they switch sides.

Crazy isn't it.

*edit*- i just saw a thread with a "cow" calling ratchet AAA, HOW MESSED UP IS THAT, but the sec. "sheep" try to use it we get bashed. "lemmings" your not exempt either.

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#2 dipper145
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because this is system wars, if people cant defend their game with scores from this site they'll just go to sites where it did get a good score and use it

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#3 trizzle_a
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I admit that I use to bash sheep for using gamerankings but now I swear by it.

I was wrong sheep:(.

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#4 Hexagon_777
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Yea, it's crazy indeed. Especially when gamespot is the rebel of all gaming sites. :lol:
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#5 marth678
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I admit that I use to bash sheep for using gamerankings but now I swear by it.

I was wrong sheep:(.

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lol, love your sig!!!

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#6 MoldOnHold
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In SW, complaints against one group is justified for one's own purposes. Kind of sad really.
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#7 xooco
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so if sheeps and cows are both using gameranking scores, that's a 2 to 1 and gamespot should stop being the standard. I mean, if you all believe in democracy and all.
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#8 Hexagon_777
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so if sheeps and cows are both using gameranking scores, that's a 2 to 1 and gamespot should stop being the standard. I mean, if you all believe in democracy and all.xooco

Nah, gamespot is the clear dictator here, you should know that by now. :evil:

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#9 jdknight21
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Gamespot is only the standard here on these forums. I personally use gamerankings. GS scores will probably always only matter on system wars. However, if I come in here and vote on an official hype thread about what I think the score will be here at GS, if it ends up not being what was predicted, I was owned. Not really a big deal, it doesn't change any game I ever played or plan on playing and it really isn't meant to be taken too seriously, but man do some people develop strong allegiances to what are essentially inanimate objects around here.
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#10 GundamGuy0
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If i wanted other reviews I would go to other sites.

I come here for GS...

I don't want a world were all reviews are the same... Why even have more then one site at all... if we want all the reviews to be the same.

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#11 DXGreat1_HGL
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Because the high and mighty cows ALWAYS want to change the rules they create to avoid ownage. They were the ones that started flops and can't stand the taste of their own medicine...
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but man do some people develop strong allegiances to what are essentially inanimate objects around here.jdknight21

Heck, most wars are fought on the basis of more irrelevant ideas/objects... it's isn't all that ridiculous. :P

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#13 SolidSnake35
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Because it makes sense to use more than one review to judge a game.
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#14 Hexagon_777
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Because it makes sense to use more than one review to judge a game.SolidSnake35

Totally. If you're a gamer and several professional game reviewers say that a game is good, yet one doesn't, who are you going to believe? It wouldn't do any damage to see what the black sheep said but if the reasons are ridiculous, then yea, no point. Furthermore, why was it only one gaming site to whine?

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#15 jdknight21
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[QUOTE="jdknight21"]but man do some people develop strong allegiances to what are essentially inanimate objects around here.Funkyhamster

Heck, most wars are fought on the basis of more irrelevant ideas/objects... it's isn't all that ridiculous. :P

You just blew my mind. :P

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Because it makes sense to use more than one review to judge a game.SolidSnake35

I agree.

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#17 Gamer556
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If you guys like GR so much, you can leave.

Or you can accept the flops and suck it up like everyone else.

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#18 Hexagon_777
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If you guys like GR so much, you can leave.

Or you could accept the flops and suck it up like everyone else.

Gamer556

Kick out the non-believers! Get rid of them! Suppress the voice and opinion that oppose your own! Don't question anything at all! That's right, kids! Seriously, let's only use the news that gamespot posts because we're only going by gamespot, right?

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#19 Gamer556
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Because it makes sense to use more than one review to judge a game.SolidSnake35

Then do it. Nobody's saying you can't use other sources when judging a game.

The only rule here is if you hype a game on GS, and it flops on GS, you are owned. You can still like the game.

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#20 meetroid8
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It has always made more sense to go by GR and MC. People are finally realizing that.
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Cows are afraid.
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#22 SOTE
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hermit here and i choose gamerankings and megacritic because its more than 1 dude saying how good the game is its like 12 dudes checking for AIDS in a patient and on of them gets a positive while all the others get negative mistakes in opinions happen... so the more data=better results.
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#23 marth678
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hermit here and i choose gamerankings and megacritic because its more than 1 dude saying how good the game is its like 12 dudes checking for AIDS in a patient and on of them gets a positive while all the others get negative mistakes in opinions happen... so the more data=better results.SOTE

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why is it all of a sudden im hearing use megacritic and gamerankings. That used to be a "sheep" defense but now im seeing MANY people say use gamerankings, etc. So basically im saying this proves a huge system wars double standard/bias, showing ppl really hate sheep, but the second they get the "sheep treatment" they switch sides.

Crazy isn't it.

marth678

Because they give a better idea of critical appeal of the game and since R&C GS has been seen as very biased.

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#25 Hexagon_777
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hermit here and i choose gamerankings and megacritic because its more than 1 dude saying how good the game is its like 12 dudes checking for AIDS in a patient and on of them gets a positive while all the others get negative mistakes in opinions happen... so the more data=better results.SOTE

Omfg, lmao, that's a brilliant analogy!!! :lol:

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#26 BraveSirRobin21
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to be completely honest I have a hard time seeing how R&C gets a 7.5 and also believe that metacrtitc and the like are more representive of the actual quality of the game. Other wise business and Usual We use gamespots scores because these are gamespots forums. doy!

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#27 i-lick-monkeys
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because gameranking is more accurate
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#28 SgtWhiskeyjack
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because gameranking is more accuratei-lick-monkeys

More accurate? - No, not with some of the sources it gets reviews from. Change a FLOP into a AAA title = :lol: NOOOO!

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#29 Strongman98
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Problem is that game spot has really gone down hill with this new ranking system, its now the same as another persons opnion, although it was an opnion to begin with at least it was divided into parts such as graphics, gameplay, story, etc. Now its just well i liked this and didnt like this so ima giv it a 8 or a 7 or a 9. Now its just any other kid. Most sites are within a few points of each other but when a site is completely diferent then somthing is wrong
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#30 jlh47
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[QUOTE="Gamer556"]

If you guys like GR so much, you can leave.

Or you could accept the flops and suck it up like everyone else.

Hexagon_777

Kick out the non-believers! Get rid of them! Suppress the voice and opinion that oppose your own! Don't question anything at all! That's right, kids! Seriously, let's only use the news that gamespot posts because we're only going by gamespot, right?

umm this is gamespots system wars isn't it? i'll go ahead and answer that for you... it is! if you don't like it then leave.

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#31 SteveMcD
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umm.... because its the best way to actually judge if a game is good or not. Why base your opinion of a game off of one site that hates absolutely everything?
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#32 marth678
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umm.... because its the best way to actually judge if a game is good or not. Why base your opinion of a game off of one site that hates absolutely everything?SteveMcD

actually im all for gamerankings. i was just pointing out one of system wars many double standars ex. (sales). seriously why all of a sudden am i seeing so many sales thread after halo3, it just really goes to show you how this forum is messed up.

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Because it makes sense to use more than one review to judge a game.SolidSnake35

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#34 JLAudio7
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why is it all of a sudden im hearing use megacritic and gamerankings. That used to be a "sheep" defense but now im seeing MANY people say use gamerankings, etc. So basically im saying this proves a huge system wars double standard/bias, showing ppl really hate sheep, but the second they get the "sheep treatment" they switch sides.

Crazy isn't it.

marth678
Because cows got owned the other day with R&C's flop
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#35 ImaPirate0202
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[QUOTE="marth678"]

why is it all of a sudden im hearing use megacritic and gamerankings. That used to be a "sheep" defense but now im seeing MANY people say use gamerankings, etc. So basically im saying this proves a huge system wars double standard/bias, showing ppl really hate sheep, but the second they get the "sheep treatment" they switch sides.

Crazy isn't it.

JLAudio7

Because cows got owned the other day with R&C's flop

The only thing that got owned was Gamespot.

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#36 JLAudio7
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[QUOTE="JLAudio7"][QUOTE="marth678"]

why is it all of a sudden im hearing use megacritic and gamerankings. That used to be a "sheep" defense but now im seeing MANY people say use gamerankings, etc. So basically im saying this proves a huge system wars double standard/bias, showing ppl really hate sheep, but the second they get the "sheep treatment" they switch sides.

Crazy isn't it.

ImaPirate0202

Because cows got owned the other day with R&C's flop

The only thing that got owned was Gamespot.

Im not a big fan of GS's new rating system either, but system wars only goes off of GS's ratings.
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#37 Ontain
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hermit here and i choose gamerankings and megacritic because its more than 1 dude saying how good the game is its like 12 dudes checking for AIDS in a patient and on of them gets a positive while all the others get negative mistakes in opinions happen... so the more data=better results.SOTE

don't confuse facts for opinions.

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#38 Tylendal
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[QUOTE="i-lick-monkeys"]because gameranking is more accurateSgtWhiskeyjack

More accurate? - No, not with some of the sources it gets reviews from. Change a FLOP into a AAA title = :lol: NOOOO!

Are you really this blind? Do you really think that Ratchet and Clank deserved a 7.5, and dozens of sources are all wrong. Do you really think that dozens of sources were wrong when they gave MP3 and TP AAA?

From what I'm reading, you seem to think that Gamespot is solid fact set in stone, while the others are just guesswork. This is just foolish. Gamespot is no more special than any other site.

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#39 JLAudio7
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[QUOTE="SgtWhiskeyjack"]

[QUOTE="i-lick-monkeys"]because gameranking is more accurateTylendal

More accurate? - No, not with some of the sources it gets reviews from. Change a FLOP into a AAA title = :lol: NOOOO!

Are you really this blind? Do you really think that Ratchet and Clank deserved a 7.5, and dozens of sources are all wrong. Do you really think that dozens of sources were wrong when they gave MP3 and TP AAA?

From what I'm reading, you seem to think that Gamespot is solid fact set in stone, while the others are just guesswork. This is just foolish. Gamespot is no more special than any other site.

No. This is System Wars!!!
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#40 Vis-a-Vis
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Aflop on GS is a flop on system wars, that is a fact, deny it all you want, but it's true. What did I just say oh my! GS says R&C is 7.5 it means that R&C flopped, yes, it flopped. Did I say GS was the only source for reviews? Did I say that the were the most accurate? Don't put words in my mouth silly fanboys, it's just that when your on a GS forum, GS is the only review score that matters in terms of A AA orAAA scores. Now go along, deny floppage all you want, but in the end, you know that if Halo 3 flopped or if SMG flops, you'll all laugh and snicker, then forget GR even existed.
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I've tried to argue that we should use Gamerankings or Metacritic around here so many times, but it's pointless. People don't want logic to play any part in the whole hype/flop thing, just pure emotion, which of course doesn't make a lick of sense to most of us but we roll along with it, since things will never change. That's the truth of it. It's an argument that's so easy to win (it's about as basic math as you can get), but people are too damn stubborn and unwilling to change, so nothing will.

I love it when topics like this come up, though, because I get to laugh at the stupidity and elitism of comments like "if you want to use Gamerankings, they have a forum, this is Gamespot and we only use Gamespot." Yeah, of course. Hey, let's never bring up any rumors from NeoGAF here. They have a forum there after all. Got a cool new clip from Gametrailers you wanna discuss? Don't do it here, you idiot, they have their own forum. 1UP just put up an awesome hands-on preview of a much-discussed game? Why bring it up here, can't you see that the url bar says "gamespot.com", not "1up.com"?

Ultimately, System Wars is on Gamespot and we only go with Gamespot.... oh, unless of course you're talking about anything except reviews, in which case we do our best to go with everything that's not Gamespot. Gotta love the consistency. If you're going to keep putting up that insipid and tired "this is Gamespot" argument, then be prepared to show some integrity and start applying that to everything on this forum, not just the reviews. Either that, or shut up and form a real argument.

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#43 JLAudio7
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Man, are you guys all idiots? Metacritic and Gamerankings post the MOSTunbiased score on the internet. It takes the MEANof several big publishers and review sites. For those whose balls hasn't dropped yet, and don't know what a mean means then don't even think of posting. So those 2 sites publish the extremes of review scores such as the xbox fanboys(gamespot), and the sony fanboys (Play) and even the moderates (IGN). That is why they are used as arguments for people.

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#44 fixer293
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Cows before flop

"only Gamespot scores count!"

After

"Gamespot is the bias, these other sites....look....looooooooooooooookkkkkkkk!"

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#45 marth678
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I've tried to argue that we should use Gamerankings or Metacritic around here so many times, but it's pointless. People don't want logic to play any part in the whole hype/flop thing, just pure emotion, which of course doesn't make a lick of sense to most of us but we roll along with it, since things will never change. That's the truth of it. It's an argument that's so easy to win (it's about as basic math as you can get), but people are too damn stubborn and unwilling to change, so nothing will.

I love it when topics like this come up, though, because I get to laugh at the stupidity and elitism of comments like "if you want to use Gamerankings, they have a forum, this is Gamespot and we only use Gamespot." Yeah, of course. Hey, let's never bring up any rumors from NeoGAF here. They have a forum there after all. Got a cool new clip from Gametrailers you wanna discuss? Don't do it here, you idiot, they have their own forum. 1UP just put up an awesome hands-on preview of a much-discussed game? Why bring it up here, can't you see that the url bar says "gamespot.com", not "1up.com"?

Ultimately, System Wars is on Gamespot and we only go with Gamespot.... oh, unless of course you're talking about anything except reviews, in which case we do our best to go with everything that's not Gamespot. Gotta love the consistency. If you're going to keep putting up that insipid and tired "this is Gamespot" argument, then be prepared to show some integrity and start applying that to everything on this forum, not just the reviews. Either that, or shut up and form a real argument.

Zeliard9

wow, that was a very beautiful post,

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#46 Zeliard9
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Man, are you guys all idiots? Metacritic and Gamerankings post the MOSTunbiased score on the internet. It takes the MEANof several big publishers and review sites. For those whose balls hasn't dropped yet, and don't know what a mean means then don't even think of posting. So those 2 sites publish the extremes of review scores such as the xbox fanboys(gamespot), and the sony fanboys (Play) and even the moderates (IGN). That is why they are used as arguments for people.

Dtnoip92

For someone who talks trash about people not knowing what a "mean" is, the concept of outliers in statistics has apparently gone above your head.

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#47 Tylendal
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I've tried to argue that we should use Gamerankings or Metacritic around here so many times, but it's pointless. People don't want logic to play any part in the whole hype/flop thing, just pure emotion, which of course doesn't make a lick of sense to most of us but we roll along with it, since things will never change. That's the truth of it. It's an argument that's so easy to win (it's about as basic math as you can get), but people are too damn stubborn and unwilling to change, so nothing will.

I love it when topics like this come up, though, because I get to laugh at the stupidity and elitism of comments like "if you want to use Gamerankings, they have a forum, this is Gamespot and we only use Gamespot." Yeah, of course. Hey, let's never bring up any rumors from NeoGAF here. They have a forum there after all. Got a cool new clip from Gametrailers you wanna discuss? Don't do it here, you idiot, they have their own forum. 1UP just put up an awesome hands-on preview of a much-discussed game? Why bring it up here, can't you see that the url bar says "gamespot.com", not "1up.com"?

Ultimately, System Wars is on Gamespot and we only go with Gamespot.... oh, unless of course you're talking about anything except reviews, in which case we do our best to go with everything that's not Gamespot. Gotta love the consistency. If you're going to keep putting up that insipid and tired "this is Gamespot" argument, then be prepared to show some integrity and start applying that to everything on this forum, not just the reviews. Either that, or shut up and form a real argument.

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This post is made of pure win :D

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#48 l-_-l
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why is it all of a sudden im hearing use megacritic and gamerankings. That used to be a "sheep" defense but now im seeing MANY people say use gamerankings, etc. So basically im saying this proves a huge system wars double standard/bias, showing ppl really hate sheep, but the second they get the "sheep treatment" they switch sides.

Crazy isn't it.

marth678
It isn't all of a sudden with me. I have been using them for a better part of a year.
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#49 FancyKetchup25
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Because it makes sense to use more than one review to judge a game.SolidSnake35

Only if the review coencides with your system of choice. Lets face it noone cares about fairness here, they care about this so called "war". Meaning if GS was giving all PS3 games great reviews and flopping 360 ones it would be the exact opposite. The rules of system wars are old and they are law, to change them now because of ones systems lack of luck would be foolish.

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#50 fixer293
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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]Because it makes sense to use more than one review to judge a game.FancyKetchup25

Only if the review coencides with your system of choice. Lets face it noone cares about fairness here, they care about this so called "war". Meaning if GS was giving all PS3 games great reviews and flopping 360 ones it would be the exact opposite. The rules of system wars are old and they are law, to change them now because of ones systems lack of luck would be foolish.

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