Why are Wii haters bashing the Wii for abondoning hardcore gamers?

Why are Wii haters bashing the Wii for appealing to casuals when they never even supported the Gamecube (back when Nintendo was still "hardcore") in the first place?darkmario123

I think that Nintendo made it pretty clear during E3 that they were going for the non-gamers. They showed families playing casual games in their video segments and left Wii Fit as the last E3 game aka the killer-app.

They focused their resources on the media, which is where the casuals learn about Nintendo products.

If they're abandoning hardcore then why is Metroid Prime 3, Mario Galaxy, Super Smash bros brawl and Mario Kart Wii all coming out in Q4 2007 to Q1 2008. What do you call those games? The only real casual game Nintendo has coming out is Wii Fit. All the 3rd party junk is to keep the casuals happy. Nintendo is basically doing no different than they always have done with their games.

[QUOTE="darkmario123"]Why are Wii haters bashing the Wii for appealing to casuals when they never even supported the Gamecube (back when Nintendo was still "hardcore") in the first place?azad_champ

I think that Nintendo made it pretty clear during E3 that they were going for the non-gamers. They showed families playing casual games in their video segments and left Wii Fit as the last E3 game aka the killer-app.

Well duh. It's E3. What did you expect them to show?

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[QUOTE="darkmario123"]Why are Wii haters bashing the Wii for appealing to casuals when they never even supported the Gamecube (back when Nintendo was still "hardcore") in the first place?goblaa

I think that Nintendo made it pretty clear during E3 that they were going for the non-gamers. They showed families playing casual games in their video segments and left Wii Fit as the last E3 game aka the killer-app.

Well duh. It's E3. What did you expect them to show?

Just like MS and 360: To actually show GOOD games. "We want to expand the industry. "We want the non-gamers". Enough is enough! Sony unveiled Infamous,KZ2 and more exlusive deals while at the same time showcasing more of the hardcore titles coming out. Nintendo showed........videos of how well they doing?! I think it's kindawrong of a sheep to protect the E3 07 of Nintendo. It was downright horrible.

I did support the Gamecube. :| We are disliked because we represent the truth. The only people who still believe that Nintendo cares about gamers as much as they used to are sheep.

They are called sheep for a reason.

Why are Wii haters bashing the Wii for appealing to casuals when they never even supported the Gamecube (back when Nintendo was still "hardcore") in the first place?darkmario123

Why are Wii haters bashing the Wii for appealing to casuals when they never even supported the Gamecube (back when Nintendo was still "hardcore") in the first place?darkmario123

i did support the gamecube, but to me it doesn't seem like the wii has a whole lot to satisfy hardcor gamers. granted, mp3 looks amazing, so does ssbb, but those kinds of titles are too far in between

[QUOTE="darkmario123"]Why are Wii haters bashing the Wii for appealing to casuals when they never even supported the Gamecube (back when Nintendo was still "hardcore") in the first place?azad_champ

I think that Nintendo made it pretty clear during E3 that they were going for the non-gamers. They showed families playing casual games in their video segments and left Wii Fit as the last E3 game aka the killer-app.

I thought about this from E3 and I think the reason why Nintendo ended E3 with Wii Fit is because E3 is no longer the gamer's convention everyone so fondly remembers it. Even Sony and MS didn't have such great conferences and the attitude there seemed more subdued than years past.

Now what this has to do with Wii Fit is that hardcore gamers already know what games are coming out for the rest of the year, mainly, the big 3 from Nintendo. Why would they waste time dedicating games that they know will sell very well and the core audience they are targetting already know about it? Instead of doing that, they focused time on a product that not too many people know about and promote that. Plus, with the skepticism that is going around here since Wii Fit was announced, it seems like Nintendo was right in focusing their attention on it because they need to promote it more and it can be a potential great seller.

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[QUOTE="darkmario123"]Why are Wii haters bashing the Wii for appealing to casuals when they never even supported the Gamecube (back when Nintendo was still "hardcore") in the first place?azad_champ

I think that Nintendo made it pretty clear during E3 that they were going for the non-gamers. They showed families playing casual games in their video segments and left Wii Fit as the last E3 game aka the killer-app.

Well duh. It's E3. What did you expect them to show?

Just like MS and 360: To actually show GOOD games. "We want to expand the industry. "We want the non-gamers". Enough is enough! Sony unveiled Infamous,KZ2 and more exlusive deals while at the same time showcasing more of the hardcore titles coming out. Nintendo showed........videos of how well they doing?! I think it's kindawrong of a sheep to protect the E3 07 of Nintendo. It was downright horrible.

if youre a wii fan then you have absolutely no rights to request any hardcore games

matter of fact if youre a nintendo fan you have absoultely no rights

if you wanted hardcore games then you wont be a nintedno fan at the very first place joe!!!

so dont be complaining.

lol ifeel sorry for you wii fans. i mean do you ever get the chance to play it. since you grandma and grandpas are aways on it and all. but i dont care

and im posting from my psp so sorry bout any spelling error

SOLID_SOULJA

If you really take notice , it is not only the wii haters upset withtheir new philosophy ........ a lot of folks in the media are also upset andsome Nintendo fans are upset. I have even noticed some previous diehards on these boards like freeload that don't like where Nintendo is going. They crave new hardcore games and a better online approach. Some people want more.

It is time for sheep diehards to step up and demand more out of Nintendo or you will continue to get your same Nintendo frachises and mini-game collections.

The wii is the worst out of the three right now. I had a GC and played PS2 way more, Nintendo can't appeal to the casual gamer with their image, they are trying to appeal to non gamers. Also 3rd parties don't sell enough games on Nintendo's platforms thats why they will make more games for 360 than Wii.Riviera_Phantom

according to GS in terms of exclusives

360>>>>>>>>>>>>>wii>ps3

[QUOTE="Riviera_Phantom"]The wii is the worst out of the three right now. I had a GC and played PS2 way more, Nintendo can't appeal to the casual gamer with their image, they are trying to appeal to non gamers. Also 3rd parties don't sell enough games on Nintendo's platforms thats why they will make more games for 360 than Wii.Shinobishyguy

according to GS in terms of exclusives

360>>>>>>>>>>>>>wii>ps3

Because peopel only buy exclusive games? Wii is the worst, live with it.

[QUOTE="darkmario123"]Why are Wii haters bashing the Wii for appealing to casuals when they never even supported the Gamecube (back when Nintendo was still "hardcore") in the first place?azad_champ

I think that Nintendo made it pretty clear during E3 that they were going for the non-gamers. They showed families playing casual games in their video segments and left Wii Fit as the last E3 game aka the killer-app.

showing one game at e3 towrds non gamers means nintend is abonding the hardcore corwd... :|

mario kart- hardcore

ssbb-hardcore

smg-hardcore

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[QUOTE="Riviera_Phantom"]The wii is the worst out of the three right now. I had a GC and played PS2 way more, Nintendo can't appeal to the casual gamer with their image, they are trying to appeal to non gamers. Also 3rd parties don't sell enough games on Nintendo's platforms thats why they will make more games for 360 than Wii.Riviera_Phantom

according to GS in terms of exclusives

360>>>>>>>>>>>>>wii>ps3

Because peopel only buy exclusive games? Wii is the worst, live with it.

wii is the worst can i see prove of it... :| oh wait no thats only opioion not even a fact in that one sentece.

3rd parties sell there games on the wii :|

I hate when people say Nintendo always makes sequals. Sony has rehashed sequals, too (Final Fantasy what? 19?) and if Microsoft was around longer you know they'd be on Halo 14 by now.sexy_chimp

lol, quiet fanboy. FF games are not even related thus saying "too many sequels" void. They are not related. There are only 3 Halo games. In fact....lol, most of "sequel" stuff that comes out on PS are 3rd party made. You = owned.

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[QUOTE="Riviera_Phantom"]The wii is the worst out of the three right now. I had a GC and played PS2 way more, Nintendo can't appeal to the casual gamer with their image, they are trying to appeal to non gamers. Also 3rd parties don't sell enough games on Nintendo's platforms thats why they will make more games for 360 than Wii.wavebrid

according to GS in terms of exclusives

360>>>>>>>>>>>>>wii>ps3

Because peopel only buy exclusive games? Wii is the worst, live with it.

wii is the worst can i see prove of it... :| oh wait no thats only opioion not even a fact in that one sentece.

3rd parties sell there games on the wii :|

It's the worst becuase it will have the biggest droughts and 3rd party games don't sell WELL on wii i said not entirely ZERO. Madden is really selling well on Wii /sarcasm.

I did support the Gamecube. :| We are disliked because we represent the truth. The only people who still believe that Nintendo cares about gamers as much as they used to are sheep.

They are called sheep for a reason.

dracula_16

b1. :lol:

2. :lol: you know itsnot only sheep who think there compaines care for gamers its all of them this why there called hermits, lemmings, cows...

[QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="Riviera_Phantom"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

[QUOTE="Riviera_Phantom"]The wii is the worst out of the three right now. I had a GC and played PS2 way more, Nintendo can't appeal to the casual gamer with their image, they are trying to appeal to non gamers. Also 3rd parties don't sell enough games on Nintendo's platforms thats why they will make more games for 360 than Wii.Riviera_Phantom

according to GS in terms of exclusives

360>>>>>>>>>>>>>wii>ps3

Because peopel only buy exclusive games? Wii is the worst, live with it.

wii is the worst can i see prove of it... :| oh wait no thats only opioion not even a fact in that one sentece.

3rd parties sell there games on the wii :|

It's the worst becuase it will have the biggest droughts and 3rd party games don't sell WELL on wii i said not entirely ZERO. Madden is really selling well on Wii /sarcasm.

rayman red steel madden :| elbiets... re4

there is a reason do i got to repeat to you people? 3RD PARITES WERE SURPRISE end of discusion :|

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[QUOTE="darkmario123"]Why are Wii haters bashing the Wii for appealing to casuals when they never even supported the Gamecube (back when Nintendo was still "hardcore") in the first place?wavebrid

I think that Nintendo made it pretty clear during E3 that they were going for the non-gamers. They showed families playing casual games in their video segments and left Wii Fit as the last E3 game aka the killer-app.

showing one game at e3 towrds non gamers means nintend is abonding the hardcore corwd... :|

mario kart- hardcore

ssbb-hardcore

smg-hardcore

Those are all 1st party games. GC all over again.

because Nintendo screwed themselves with the GC , no online ... idiot Nintendo. Thats what killed off the 3rd party supportSonic_on_crack

really show how much you know

Nintendo got more 3rd party support from cube than n64.

cube had online just didnt adversite it much..

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[QUOTE="darkmario123"]Why are Wii haters bashing the Wii for appealing to casuals when they never even supported the Gamecube (back when Nintendo was still "hardcore") in the first place?Riviera_Phantom

I think that Nintendo made it pretty clear during E3 that they were going for the non-gamers. They showed families playing casual games in their video segments and left Wii Fit as the last E3 game aka the killer-app.

showing one game at e3 towrds non gamers means nintend is abonding the hardcore corwd... :|

mario kart- hardcore

ssbb-hardcore

smg-hardcore

Those are all 1st party games. GC all over again.

oh wait so since no 3rd parties name anncoued at e3? so i guess you cant use wiifit either :| its made by nintendo

...

sandess

raid over river

no more heros

recu

:|

[QUOTE="Riviera_Phantom"][QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="Riviera_Phantom"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

[QUOTE="Riviera_Phantom"]The wii is the worst out of the three right now. I had a GC and played PS2 way more, Nintendo can't appeal to the casual gamer with their image, they are trying to appeal to non gamers. Also 3rd parties don't sell enough games on Nintendo's platforms thats why they will make more games for 360 than Wii.wavebrid

according to GS in terms of exclusives

360>>>>>>>>>>>>>wii>ps3

Because peopel only buy exclusive games? Wii is the worst, live with it.

wii is the worst can i see prove of it... :| oh wait no thats only opioion not even a fact in that one sentece.

3rd parties sell there games on the wii :|

It's the worst becuase it will have the biggest droughts and 3rd party games don't sell WELL on wii i said not entirely ZERO. Madden is really selling well on Wii /sarcasm.

rayman red steel madden :| elbiets... re4

there is a reason do i got to repeat to you people? 3RD PARITES WERE SURPRISE end of discusion :|

RE4? Why do people say RE4 sold well when it was a GC game. It had a strong userbase from GC, the wii version is naturally going to sell well. 3rd parties were surprise? WTF fix your grammar.

[QUOTE="Sonic_on_crack"]because Nintendo screwed themselves with the GC , no online ... idiot Nintendo. Thats what killed off the 3rd party supportwavebrid

really show how much you know

Nintendo got more 3rd party support from cube than n64.

cube had online just didnt adversite it much..

Cube had one online game, thats not having online. N64 had less 3rd party support but it's 1st party games made up for that hence why N64>>cube in sales. Also Sonic on Crack is right, 3rd party for Wii is going to be decent but none of those games will sell on the system.

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[QUOTE="darkmario123"]Why are Wii haters bashing the Wii for appealing to casuals when they never even supported the Gamecube (back when Nintendo was still "hardcore") in the first place?wavebrid

I think that Nintendo made it pretty clear during E3 that they were going for the non-gamers. They showed families playing casual games in their video segments and left Wii Fit as the last E3 game aka the killer-app.

showing one game at e3 towrds non gamers means nintend is abonding the hardcore corwd... :|

mario kart- hardcore

ssbb-hardcore

smg-hardcore

Yeah,yeah. Same games over and over again. Is Mario Kart even hardcore. It might be a old IP but judging by the gameplay and Reggie's comment the game seems to be very kiddy and noob-friendly. Where are all the M-rated action games? That question is too hard for even the greatest of sheeps.

[QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="azad_champ"]

[QUOTE="darkmario123"]Why are Wii haters bashing the Wii for appealing to casuals when they never even supported the Gamecube (back when Nintendo was still "hardcore") in the first place?azad_champ

I think that Nintendo made it pretty clear during E3 that they were going for the non-gamers. They showed families playing casual games in their video segments and left Wii Fit as the last E3 game aka the killer-app.

showing one game at e3 towrds non gamers means nintend is abonding the hardcore corwd... :|

mario kart- hardcore

ssbb-hardcore

smg-hardcore

Yeah,yeah. Same games over and over again. Is Mario Kart even hardcore. It might be a old IP but judging by the gameplay and Reggie's comment the game seems to be very kiddy and noob-friendly. Where are all the M-rated action games? That question is too hard for even the greatest of sheeps.

anyone?

[QUOTE="azad_champ"][QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="azad_champ"]

[QUOTE="darkmario123"]Why are Wii haters bashing the Wii for appealing to casuals when they never even supported the Gamecube (back when Nintendo was still "hardcore") in the first place?azad_champ

I think that Nintendo made it pretty clear during E3 that they were going for the non-gamers. They showed families playing casual games in their video segments and left Wii Fit as the last E3 game aka the killer-app.

showing one game at e3 towrds non gamers means nintend is abonding the hardcore corwd... :|

mario kart- hardcore

ssbb-hardcore

smg-hardcore

Yeah,yeah. Same games over and over again. Is Mario Kart even hardcore. It might be a old IP but judging by the gameplay and Reggie's comment the game seems to be very kiddy and noob-friendly. Where are all the M-rated action games? That question is too hard for even the greatest of sheeps.

anyone?

And yet, we are getting more "hardcore" games with teh wii than with the GC.... strange huh. Goten_king

Strange. Another thread here shows that GC had more hardcore games in it's first 11 months than Wii.

[QUOTE="azad_champ"][QUOTE="azad_champ"][QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="azad_champ"]

[QUOTE="darkmario123"]Why are Wii haters bashing the Wii for appealing to casuals when they never even supported the Gamecube (back when Nintendo was still "hardcore") in the first place?Goten_king

I think that Nintendo made it pretty clear during E3 that they were going for the non-gamers. They showed families playing casual games in their video segments and left Wii Fit as the last E3 game aka the killer-app.

showing one game at e3 towrds non gamers means nintend is abonding the hardcore corwd... :|

mario kart- hardcore

ssbb-hardcore

smg-hardcore

Yeah,yeah. Same games over and over again. Is Mario Kart even hardcore. It might be a old IP but judging by the gameplay and Reggie's comment the game seems to be very kiddy and noob-friendly. Where are all the M-rated action games? That question is too hard for even the greatest of sheeps.

anyone?

2 original games. That's overkill!

Nintendo stopped being "hardcore" with the N64. The N64 had Goldeneye and Zelda OoT, but that was all that appealed to me. Nintendo supports games that appeal to kids or Japan. Berserker_2

And yet I'm 21, I live in Georgia and I love my Wii. Hmmm.

Because Wii Haters need a reason to hate, even if it's not true.

They focused their resources on the media, which is where the casuals learn about Nintendo products.

If they're abandoning hardcore then why is Metroid Prime 3, Mario Galaxy, Super Smash bros brawl and Mario Kart Wii all coming out in Q4 2007 to Q1 2008. What do you call those games? The only real casual game Nintendo has coming out is Wii Fit. All the 3rd party junk is to keep the casuals happy. Nintendo is basically doing no different than they always have done with their games.

hiho24

I disagree....Metroid Prime 3 was made simpler and more accessible...Super Paper Mario was made simpler than older Paper Mario titles....and at E3 Reggie said that "whether you're a veteran of the kart series or a newcomer you should have no problem keeping up" It just sounds like theyre taking down the difficulty level on their games so that casual gamers that want to try a hardcore game can actually enjoy it more.

Why are Wii haters bashing the Wii for appealing to casuals when they never even supported the Gamecube (back when Nintendo was still "hardcore") in the first place?darkmario123

I sure supported the GC. And I own a Wii.

"Abandon" may be an exaggeration, but it's very very clear that the hardcore gamer is NOT their priority. The more substantial games will trickle out, probably grouping around the holiday season, but it would seem that the Wii is meant for everyone else except the hardcore.

I'm still amazed people consider Mario Kart to be a hardcore game.ramey70

I'm still amazed how sheeps are backing the Wii has a hardcore console despite Nintendo's direction in this console-gen.