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#1 StreetRacer91
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How many people that are excited for Killzone 2 have ever played Killzone 1? There were tons of things wrong with the first one. The first game had the worst sound I've ever heard in a game. The game also could not get you to care about the characters much (Templar, Luger). The story has extremely good potential, which was the reason I bought it, but completely fails at even making you care about the story.

What does this have to do with Killzone 2 you may ask? Well, Killzone 1 and 2 have many similarities. Killzone 1 was a graphically impressive game on the PS2, and it looks like it will be the same in Killzone 2. It even has a new set of characters, making the characters in Killzone 1 obsolete. It will probably have the same problem with the lack of variation with enemies. But if all the same problems exist in the second version (horrible characters, story), why are you excited for Killzone 2?

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#2 thrones
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Killzone: Liberation for the PSP was awesome.

Anyway, we're talking about the game that introduced SPRINT. Gaming wouldn't be where it is today without Killzone. We'll all be trodding along, slightly slower.

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#3 crushed21
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Killzone was not graphically impressive at all. Horrible textures, an embarassing amount of bugs and a horrible framerate made it practically unplayable.

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#4 greeneyedmonsta
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honestly i get some what exited for any fps that shows promise, and killzone 1 was really limited by the ps2 hardware. The ps3 has shown that it is more than capable of running fps games.
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i like its visuals. and shooting at stuff is just plain fun.
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#6 DarkCloud79
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I liked KZ1 and the gameplay trailer for KZ2. Is that wrong?
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#7 StreetRacer91
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It did have technical problems, but it too

Killzone was not graphically impressive at all. Horrible textures, an embarassing amount of bugs and a horrible framerate made it practically unplayable.

crushed21

Killzone did have technical problems like the framerate drops and texture pop in, but it looked pretty good by PS2 standards.

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Killzone: Liberation for the PSP was awesome.

Anyway, we're talking about the game that introduced SPRINT. Gaming wouldn't be where it is today without Killzone. We'll all be trodding along, slightly slower.

thrones

lol, introduced sprint...

the original killzone was pretty bad and the law of sequals states that it must be at least as bad. well i own a 360, PC and hopefully a wii soon so this game realy just restates what i knew already. i don't need a ps3, not now not ever (well maybe if sony pulls somethi ng realy big, and a few of them but in the words of yhatzee 'it would have to start teleporting hookers into my front room to make me care' )

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#9 O_Lineman17
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Killzone: Liberation for the PSP was awesome.

Anyway, we're talking about the game that introduced SPRINT. Gaming wouldn't be where it is today without Killzone. We'll all be trodding along, slightly slower.

thrones

no...

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How many people that are excited for Killzone 2 have ever played Killzone 1? There were tons of things wrong with the first one. The first game had the worst sound I've ever heard in a game. The game also could not get you to care about the characters much (Templar, Luger). The story has extremely good potential, which was the reason I bought it, but completely fails at even making you care about the story.

What does this have to do with Killzone 2 you may ask? Well, Killzone 1 and 2 have many similarities. Killzone 1 was a graphically impressive game on the PS2, and it looks like it will be the same in Killzone 2. It even has a new set of characters, making the characters in Killzone 1 obsolete. It will probably have the same problem with the lack of variation with enemies. But if all the same problems exist in the second version (horrible characters, story), why are you excited for Killzone 2?

StreetRacer91

Resistance had a lack of different enemies, but the original enemies were so damn good and smart that variation on type was not really needed, just a bit of tweaking of when guns they are equipped with at different points in the game was necessary.

Lets not also forget how awesome Killzone: Liberation was.

And by your token, GTA 3 should have suffered the same shortcomings as GTA 2 did. The fact is, a game can remain in the same genre as it's prequel and still fundementally change its approach to make it better.

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#11 thrones
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[QUOTE="thrones"]

Killzone: Liberation for the PSP was awesome.

Anyway, we're talking about the game that introduced SPRINT. Gaming wouldn't be where it is today without Killzone. We'll all be trodding along, slightly slower.

O_Lineman17

no...

No to what? I never said Killzone 1 was good. Just it introduced sprint to the unshaven console masses :|

And Liberation WAS good.

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How many people that are excited for Killzone 2 have ever played Killzone 1? There were tons of things wrong with the first one. The first game had the worst sound I've ever heard in a game. The game also could not get you to care about the characters much (Templar, Luger). The story has extremely good potential, which was the reason I bought it, but completely fails at even making you care about the story.

What does this have to do with Killzone 2 you may ask? Well, Killzone 1 and 2 have many similarities. Killzone 1 was a graphically impressive game on the PS2, and it looks like it will be the same in Killzone 2. It even has a new set of characters, making the characters in Killzone 1 obsolete. It will probably have the same problem with the lack of variation with enemies. But if all the same problems exist in the second version (horrible characters, story), why are you excited for Killzone 2?

StreetRacer91

It's a shooter. It's exclusive. It looks pretty. It looks fun.

That doesnt mean I wish it wasnt hyped to oblivion. I think it's destined to "fail" in the eyes of Sony haters. If it's anything less than a 9.0 on all websites, not just Gamespot, (though I'm sure it'll be like a 6.0 here) then it will be considered a flop. Everyone says Halo Killer, not gonna happen. Halo is weird, I dont know how it got to be so big, because I never saw anything special about it. It blows my mind really, but that's besides the point - Halo wont be topped in terms of sales, and if Killzone isnt an immediate seller, it's going to "fail". After all, many Sony haters have called Ratchet a flop, MGS a flop, Uncharted a flop, Warhawk a flop, Heavenly Sword a flop, etc. This is a game that 360 fanboys are crossing their fingers to flop, simply because it's not on their system.

I think Killzone 2 will be a good game.

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Personally I found the presentation, gameplay, and story in KZ to be very well done. The reason I'm interested in KZ2. The only problems I had with the original were technical problems...bad hit boxes, clipping, falling through the world, framerate, and screen tearing.
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#14 thrones
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[QUOTE="StreetRacer91"]

How many people that are excited for Killzone 2 have ever played Killzone 1? There were tons of things wrong with the first one. The first game had the worst sound I've ever heard in a game. The game also could not get you to care about the characters much (Templar, Luger). The story has extremely good potential, which was the reason I bought it, but completely fails at even making you care about the story.

What does this have to do with Killzone 2 you may ask? Well, Killzone 1 and 2 have many similarities. Killzone 1 was a graphically impressive game on the PS2, and it looks like it will be the same in Killzone 2. It even has a new set of characters, making the characters in Killzone 1 obsolete. It will probably have the same problem with the lack of variation with enemies. But if all the same problems exist in the second version (horrible characters, story), why are you excited for Killzone 2?

donwoogie

Resistance had a lack of different enemies, but the original enemies were so damn good and smart that variation on type was not really needed, just a bit of tweaking of when guns they are equipped with at different points in the game was necessary.

Lets not also forget how awesome Killzone: Liberation was.

And by your token, GTA 3 should have suffered the same shortcomings as GTA 2 did. The fact is, a game can remain in the same genre as it's prequel and still fundementally change its approach to make it better.

Don't forget Super Smash Bros. Series.

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#15 greeneyedmonsta
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Killzone: Liberation for the PSP was awesome.

Anyway, we're talking about the game that introduced SPRINT. Gaming wouldn't be where it is today without Killzone. We'll all be trodding along, slightly slower.

thrones

i find it funny that you say it introduced sprint, but you could not JUMP. wtf, in realistic fps i can forgive this, but not in a sci-fi type game, thats just the devs being lazy. You better be able to jump in killzone 2, because if you can't(shakes fist.)

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#16 thrones
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[QUOTE="thrones"]

Killzone: Liberation for the PSP was awesome.

Anyway, we're talking about the game that introduced SPRINT. Gaming wouldn't be where it is today without Killzone. We'll all be trodding along, slightly slower.

greeneyedmonsta

i find it funny that you say it introduced sprint, but you could not JUMP. wtf, in realistic fps i can forgive this, but not in a sci-fi type game, thats just the devs being lazy. You better be able to jump in killzone 2, because if you can't(shakes fist.)

Oh, the lack of jump has hampered many a game. Bunny hopping becomes a hard feat without jump...

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#17 StreetRacer91
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[QUOTE="StreetRacer91"]

How many people that are excited for Killzone 2 have ever played Killzone 1? There were tons of things wrong with the first one. The first game had the worst sound I've ever heard in a game. The game also could not get you to care about the characters much (Templar, Luger). The story has extremely good potential, which was the reason I bought it, but completely fails at even making you care about the story.

What does this have to do with Killzone 2 you may ask? Well, Killzone 1 and 2 have many similarities. Killzone 1 was a graphically impressive game on the PS2, and it looks like it will be the same in Killzone 2. It even has a new set of characters, making the characters in Killzone 1 obsolete. It will probably have the same problem with the lack of variation with enemies. But if all the same problems exist in the second version (horrible characters, story), why are you excited for Killzone 2?

donwoogie

Resistance had a lack of different enemies, but the original enemies were so damn good and smart that variation on type was not really needed, just a bit of tweaking of when guns they are equipped with at different points in the game was necessary.

Lets not also forget how awesome Killzone: Liberation was.

And by your token, GTA 3 should have suffered the same shortcomings as GTA 2 did. The fact is, a game can remain in the same genre as it's prequel and still fundementally change its approach to make it better.

The older GTAs were completely different from GTA 3. GTA 3 introduced revolutionary gameplay at the time with a do anything you want to style. So far it seems that Killzone 2 will be very similar to Killzone 1 in terms of gameplay with maybe some minor improvements.

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#18 thrones
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[QUOTE="donwoogie"][QUOTE="StreetRacer91"]

How many people that are excited for Killzone 2 have ever played Killzone 1? There were tons of things wrong with the first one. The first game had the worst sound I've ever heard in a game. The game also could not get you to care about the characters much (Templar, Luger). The story has extremely good potential, which was the reason I bought it, but completely fails at even making you care about the story.

What does this have to do with Killzone 2 you may ask? Well, Killzone 1 and 2 have many similarities. Killzone 1 was a graphically impressive game on the PS2, and it looks like it will be the same in Killzone 2. It even has a new set of characters, making the characters in Killzone 1 obsolete. It will probably have the same problem with the lack of variation with enemies. But if all the same problems exist in the second version (horrible characters, story), why are you excited for Killzone 2?

StreetRacer91

Resistance had a lack of different enemies, but the original enemies were so damn good and smart that variation on type was not really needed, just a bit of tweaking of when guns they are equipped with at different points in the game was necessary.

Lets not also forget how awesome Killzone: Liberation was.

And by your token, GTA 3 should have suffered the same shortcomings as GTA 2 did. The fact is, a game can remain in the same genre as it's prequel and still fundementally change its approach to make it better.

The older GTAs were completely different from GTA 3. GTA 3 introduced revolutionary gameplay at the time with a do anything you want to style. So far it seems that Killzone 2 will be very similar to Killzone 1 in terms of gameplay with maybe some minor improvements.

And have you read the review of Killzone?

It's a functional shooter, but with a couple of extra coats of paint, Killzone could have been a whole lot better.

Killzone 2 is that extra coat of paint, painted by Da Vinci.

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[QUOTE="donwoogie"][QUOTE="StreetRacer91"]

How many people that are excited for Killzone 2 have ever played Killzone 1? There were tons of things wrong with the first one. The first game had the worst sound I've ever heard in a game. The game also could not get you to care about the characters much (Templar, Luger). The story has extremely good potential, which was the reason I bought it, but completely fails at even making you care about the story.

What does this have to do with Killzone 2 you may ask? Well, Killzone 1 and 2 have many similarities. Killzone 1 was a graphically impressive game on the PS2, and it looks like it will be the same in Killzone 2. It even has a new set of characters, making the characters in Killzone 1 obsolete. It will probably have the same problem with the lack of variation with enemies. But if all the same problems exist in the second version (horrible characters, story), why are you excited for Killzone 2?

StreetRacer91

Resistance had a lack of different enemies, but the original enemies were so damn good and smart that variation on type was not really needed, just a bit of tweaking of when guns they are equipped with at different points in the game was necessary.

Lets not also forget how awesome Killzone: Liberation was.

And by your token, GTA 3 should have suffered the same shortcomings as GTA 2 did. The fact is, a game can remain in the same genre as it's prequel and still fundementally change its approach to make it better.

The older GTAs were completely different from GTA 3. GTA 3 introduced revolutionary gameplay at the time with a do anything you want to style. So far it seems that Killzone 2 will be very similar to Killzone 1 in terms of gameplay with maybe some minor improvements.

The trailers did not show that GTA 3 would be any different from GTA2 except with standard Sequel stuff, like graphics, and just one new feature, that being a new camera mode. Killzone 2 is not even out so there is no confirmation on how dimilar and how different it will be from Killzone.

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KZ 2 looks fun. It won't be the greatest game ever, but the guns remind me of Halo and that's cool.
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#21 thrones
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Also, don't forget that Killzone had solid multiplayer online, I know of someone who still plays it online along with SOCOM 3. (He never made the jump to next-gen, he's waiting for the next SOCOM then jumping)

Surprisingly, both games still have some people playing then...

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Also, don't forget that Killzone had solid multiplayer online, I know of someone who still plays it online along with SOCOM 3. (He never made the jump to next-gen, he's waiting for the next SOCOM then jumping)

Surprisingly, both games still have some people playing then...

thrones

Man, you should check out the UT serverlist. Those dudes are hard core!

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#23 thrones
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[QUOTE="thrones"]

Also, don't forget that Killzone had solid multiplayer online, I know of someone who still plays it online along with SOCOM 3. (He never made the jump to next-gen, he's waiting for the next SOCOM then jumping)

Surprisingly, both games still have some people playing then...

donwoogie

Man, you should check out the UT serverlist. Those dudes are hard core!

I really don't understand why people play all these old games..there's people playing CoD1 on the PC!

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#24 manystylez
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I thought the first KZ was ok, i mostly spent time on fighting the multiplayer bots, the first had many problems due to it being rushed but now KZ2 looks amazing and they are speniding alot of time, and did you watch the special feature for it here on gamespot??? Anyway my hype has gone down for it due to no news of it since e3 last year. Hopefully more heard this E3.
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#25 donwoogie
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[QUOTE="donwoogie"][QUOTE="thrones"]

Also, don't forget that Killzone had solid multiplayer online, I know of someone who still plays it online along with SOCOM 3. (He never made the jump to next-gen, he's waiting for the next SOCOM then jumping)

Surprisingly, both games still have some people playing then...

thrones

Man, you should check out the UT serverlist. Those dudes are hard core!

I really don't understand why people play all these old games..there's people playing CoD1 on the PC!

I still play CS 1.6 :P

(though it is annoying how every CS 1.6 server just plays dust over and over again..............

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#26 thrones
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I was bought by Killzone when I saw this:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/24214.html

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How many people that are excited for Killzone 2 have ever played Killzone 1? There were tons of things wrong with the first one. The first game had the worst sound I've ever heard in a game. The game also could not get you to care about the characters much (Templar, Luger). The story has extremely good potential, which was the reason I bought it, but completely fails at even making you care about the story.

What does this have to do with Killzone 2 you may ask? Well, Killzone 1 and 2 have many similarities. Killzone 1 was a graphically impressive game on the PS2, and it looks like it will be the same in Killzone 2. It even has a new set of characters, making the characters in Killzone 1 obsolete. It will probably have the same problem with the lack of variation with enemies. But if all the same problems exist in the second version (horrible characters, story), why are you excited for Killzone 2?

StreetRacer91

Your post is a bit confusing, your saying that KZ1 had bad sound, characters and story.

Then you say KZ1 and KZ2 are similar because they both have good graphics for their era (a good thing), but that KZ2 has a new set of characters (also good since you didnt like the original characters).

And from this you conclude that KZ2 will have the same problems as KZ1 (characters, story and sound)

For the record I havent played the original but am looking forward to the second because it looks fun.

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Cow's killed there hype for killzone after there other mediocre FPS debuted (resistance 2)
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#29 thrones
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Cow's killed there hype for killzone after there other mediocre FPS debuted (resistance 2)Gh0st_Of_0nyx

I enjoyed Killzone 1 more than Resistance 1 tbh, so I'm hyping Killzone 2 more :)

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#30 manystylez
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Remember the trailer we saw was pre-alpha and it looked just as good if not better than the target vid.

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#32 yoshi-lnex
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I really don't understand the aaaa hype. Sequals, especially in the FPS genre, tend to be fairly mediocre, and rarely add much to what was in the prequal. It's probably going to flop and cows will just go into uber damage control.
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Only FPS I'm looking forward to is Resistance 2 and I'm still not expecting it to be AAA although it would be nice. Resistance was fun in my opinion. The last time I enjoyed a FPS was with Halo. I didn't like Halo 2( only good thing it had was MP IMO) and Halo 3 was the worst for me. Much better games coming this year in my opinion that I'm looking forward to buying.