Why cant we have 480p 60fps as an Option?

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#1 killu-later
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why dont developers make it so we get 60fps when playing in 480p, current gen consoles can run that with no problem
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#2 SRTtoZ
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....

Honestly, THATS how you start your system wars career?

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#3 agpickle
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No, just no.

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#4 MlauTheDaft
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One particular drawback of writing "close to the metal", (probably the only one), is that you forego every last shred of flexibility.

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#5 Innovazero2000
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One particular drawback of writing "close to the metal", (probably the only one), is that you forego every last shred of flexibility.

MlauTheDaft
Bingo, I know the 360 will add 4x AA when scaling down to 480p but it still doesn't have anywhere near the sharpness of 720p+? I'm not certain on the ps3, does it do anything when scaling?
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#6 Xander818
Member since 2009 • 115 Posts

You can do it on a PC... Will hurt your eyes tho

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#7 Gue1
Member since 2004 • 12171 Posts

No, just no.

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why? This seems like a really good idea if you ask me...

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#8 Gamingclone
Member since 2009 • 5224 Posts

The Wii is the answer to that, sadly so many of its games are "ugly," since they are 480p.

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#9 KiZZo1
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Honestly, THATS how you start your system wars career?

SRTtoZ

LOL :) It's not so bad. I predict a few hermits will drop in to say 1080p/60fps !

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#10 Mcspanky37
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I'd prefer 1080p at around 30 fps

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#11 Teuf_
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If a game is designed to run at 30fps, running at 60 can cause all kinds of bugs. So I'd imagine most developers wouldn't want to deal with that, and would rather just render at 720p and downscale (or render at 480p and cap the framerate). But it would certainly be possible, if someone wanted to go through the extra effort. I'm sure there are mostly-60fps games out there that run at more much more stable 60fps when in 480p mode.

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#12 skrat_01
Member since 2007 • 33767 Posts
>console games >options That ain't console gaming son.
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#13 stereointegrity
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....

Honestly, THATS how you start your system wars career?

SRTtoZ
hahaha
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#14 DJ_Lae
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480p? Yuck. If you want (nearly) that low resolution with a high framerate, just play the Call of Duty games on the PS3.
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#15 -Unreal-
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I'd prefer 1080p at around 30 fps

Mcspanky37
How many console games are rendered at 1920x1080 with a steady 30fps? I'd wager barely any at all.
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#16 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="agpickle"]

No, just no.

Gue1

why? This seems like a really good idea if you ask me...

Well it isn't.
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#18 BPoole96
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IF you want those kinds of options you're going to need a PC

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#19 Mcspanky37
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[QUOTE="Mcspanky37"]

I'd prefer 1080p at around 30 fps

-Unreal-
How many console games are rendered at 1920x1080 with a steady 30fps? I'd wager barely any at all.

As if i said there were any.
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#20 Ryan_Som
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>console games >options That ain't console gaming son.skrat_01

...And there's your answer.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a console gamer through and through, but I'm in the process of building a gaming rig for that very reason. Having the option to change settings based on what YOU think is important is a big thing. And if your PC is strong enough, you can have the best of all worlds. You have high resolution, crisp textures, smooth framerate, insane draw distances, and not a jaggy in sight.

I've been satisfied with what this generation of consoles has to offer, but I'm ready to see the other side. ;)

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#21 ActicEdge
Member since 2008 • 24492 Posts

I don't know why anyone would want that. I mean I suppose if you lack an hdtv it might be a nice option I guess as like (an extra option, hell no as a number 1 priority)

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#22 Tikeio
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I'd rather have 720p 4xMSAA as an option. Just look at Warhawk, possibly the only console game with absolutely zero jaggies.

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#23 Arach666
Member since 2009 • 23285 Posts

>console games

>options

That ain't console gaming son

.skrat_01

Pretty much.

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#25 tomarlyn
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I'd rather have the option of more pop-in than make the game look blurry. Still don't mind 30 fps though.
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#26 -Unreal-
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[QUOTE="-Unreal-"][QUOTE="Mcspanky37"]

I'd prefer 1080p at around 30 fps

Mcspanky37
How many console games are rendered at 1920x1080 with a steady 30fps? I'd wager barely any at all.

As if i said there were any.

As if I said you did.
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#27 NodakJo2010
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This topic is on the wrong board.....Seeing that is it is System Wars where the #1 Argument is TEH GRAPHIX!!!! and the #2 Argument is MAH CONSOLE IS BETTER DAN YAURS!

480p isn't bad...just find a different place to discuss it ;)

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#28 lightleggy
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why dont developers make it so we get 60fps when playing in 480p, current gen consoles can run that with no problemkillu-later
because the game would look like complete rubbish?
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#29 dontshackzmii
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because it will look awful on anything bigger then 32 inches

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#30 Smileyvirus
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Somewhere in the back of my dusty old mind, I remember something about MS wanting all 360 games to be made in a minimum of 720p. COD4 and Halo 3 were the only ones to be allowed to run in lower res with higher framerate, and they had to talk MS into letting them do it. Ofc I could have just been very very drunk.
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#31 RickTophen
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No, just no.

agpickle
Why not? Is it bad to have options?
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#32 iamrob7
Member since 2007 • 2138 Posts

I thought 480p for games was made illegal during the 90's.

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#33 WyteCollaCrim
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I'm pretty sure there is an option for that.
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#34 SPYDER0416
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The hermits are going to have a field day with this.

I do think console games should allow changes in resolution, texture and framerate. Bioshock 2 let me lower texture quality so the game could run on a much better, smoother framerate. Some people on the other hand, prefer pure beauty and would rather CoD have 30fps and prettier graphics instead.

It should really be an option.

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#35 Leekspin
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Hell. Why not 240p at 240 fps?

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#36 theuncharted34
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...You're the same guy who wants games to run at 480p, "to get more detailed graphics out of the hardware", aren't you? :lol:

:lol: Oh my.

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#37 theuncharted34
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I'd rather have 720p 4xMSAA as an option. Just look at Warhawk, possibly the only console game with absolutely zero jaggies.

Tikeio

I've never actually played a game that runs at those particular settings on consoles, so I can't say, but Killzone 2 has virtually no jaggies thanks to quincunx AA and heavy post processing effects.

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#38 lundy86_4
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Go from 720p to 480p? Ewwwwwww :P

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#39 DJ_Lae
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Somewhere in the back of my dusty old mind, I remember something about MS wanting all 360 games to be made in a minimum of 720p. COD4 and Halo 3 were the only ones to be allowed to run in lower res with higher framerate, and they had to talk MS into letting them do it. Ofc I could have just been very very drunk.Smileyvirus
No, Microsoft did require 720p with the 360, similar to how they also required achievements. Unfortunately, it didn't take long for that 720p to simply mean the upscaled output resolution. I think PGR3 was the first sub-HD game out for the system, and that was pretty much a launch title (or was it a day of launch game?). It's now to the point where the 720p/1080p on 360 or PS3 game boxes means absolutely nothing, and that's sad.
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#40 SRTtoZ
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[QUOTE="agpickle"]

No, just no.

RickTophen

Why not? Is it bad to have options?

Not at all...he has an option, its called PC gaming. Consoles have forever and will always forever be set configurations...Or else its just a PC with a different name on it.

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#41 theuncharted34
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I can't even look at wii games on an HDTV. Have to play them on an old CRT.

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#42 Mcspanky37
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[QUOTE="-Unreal-"][QUOTE="Mcspanky37"][QUOTE="-Unreal-"] How many console games are rendered at 1920x1080 with a steady 30fps? I'd wager barely any at all.

As if i said there were any.

As if I said you did.

I Agree
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#43 deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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That would be wise. Didn't you guys know that a game in 480p SD with all high settings looks better than a game at 1080p HD with all low settings?

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#44 gamebreakerz__
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We've had this thread before....
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#45 jun_aka_pekto
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The hermits are going to have a field day with this.

I do think console games should allow changes in resolution, texture and framerate. Bioshock 2 let me lower texture quality so the game could run on a much better, smoother framerate. Some people on the other hand, prefer pure beauty and would rather CoD have 30fps and prettier graphics instead.

It should really be an option.

SPYDER0416

Actually, I sometimes play my PC games at a lower resolution (1440x900, 1280x800) than the native res of my 1080p TV/monitor just so I can ratchet up AA and other graphics settings. The lower res aren't too bad.

Only works with VGA and DVI cables though. HDMI is a lot more finicky.

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#46 VanDammFan
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im so glad I dont play the numbers games..I just play the games..

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#48 GhoX
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I'd prefer 1080p at around 30 fps

Mcspanky37
I'd prefer 1440p at 60 fps.
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#49 mitu123
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480p is outdated though...

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#50 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="RickTophen"][QUOTE="agpickle"]

No, just no.

SRTtoZ

Why not? Is it bad to have options?

Not at all...he has an option, its called PC gaming. Consoles have forever and will always forever be set configurations...Or else its just a PC with a different name on it.

well bioshock had an option to increase framerate at the cost of lowering textures or AA or something