Why can't you zoom in with the sniper scope in battlefield bad company 2?

I have been checking out some gameplay of the game on youtube and I notice that you can't zoom in with the sniper rifles. Also, you can't go prone. I know that some people may think well that would simply be too much of an advantage for the sniper but the fact is that the game is not as realitic as what it could have been without this.

Besides if EA won't include that with bad company 2 than someone else will just make a game that has good size maps with good graphics that allows you to do this as a sniper and I will be playing that game instead becuz of this. I will be looking even more forward to crysis 2 or Farcry 3 or maybe some other game like Rage will give me what I want.

LOL Go play it first before making assumptions. Although it's true that you can't go prone, every gun (except shotguns) can use the iron sights/ scopes attached. Snipers can scope93soccer

I know that they can scope but they can't zoom in and out. As a sniper I myself tend to usually be pretty far away from the enemy. Thats the whole idea and seeing as you can't zoom in than it makes me want to get closer to the enemy to get a better view when I normally would never think of doing that as a sniper therefore it makes the game even more unrealistic as a result of this.

Do you mean like...zoom in further than just pressing the left trigger? I don't know why you'd need to zoom in any further...cause I head shot people on ATV's a quarter of mile away in that game no problem. I agree with prone. Hopefully BF3 has prone ffs.AAllxxjjnn

Why would anyone need to zoom in when looking at something? An obvious question deserves and obvious answer which is to get a better look at what you are zooming in at. Also, its unrealistic that the sniper can't not use the sniper rifle as its meant to be used.

A sniper rifle with just one view is basically the same as any other gun. Thats what makes it a sniper rifle is the ability to zoom in from far away distances. EA is really wussin out thinking that everyone who doesn't snipe can't handle it.

[QUOTE="93soccer"]LOL Go play it first before making assumptions. Although it's true that you can't go prone, every gun (except shotguns) can use the iron sights/ scopes attached. Snipers can scopeSonwhy

I know that they can scope but they can't zoom in and out. As a sniper I myself tend to usually be pretty far away from the enemy. Thats the whole idea and seeing as you can't zoom in than it makes me want to get closer to the enemy to get a better view when I normally would never think of doing that as a sniper therefore it makes the game even more unrealistic as a result of this.

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Do you mean like...zoom in further than just pressing the left trigger? I don't know why you'd need to zoom in any further...cause I head shot people on ATV's a quarter of mile away in that game no problem. I agree with prone. Hopefully BF3 has prone ffs.Sonwhy

Why would anyone need to zoom in when looking at something? An obvious question deserves and obvious answer which is to get a better look at what you are zooming in at.

[QUOTE="Sonwhy"]

[QUOTE="93soccer"]LOL Go play it first before making assumptions. Although it's true that you can't go prone, every gun (except shotguns) can use the iron sights/ scopes attached. Snipers can scopeCherokee_Jack

I know that they can scope but they can't zoom in and out. As a sniper I myself tend to usually be pretty far away from the enemy. Thats the whole idea and seeing as you can't zoom in than it makes me want to get closer to the enemy to get a better view when I normally would never think of doing that as a sniper therefore it makes the game even more unrealistic as a result of this.

Just becuz you think that doesn't mean every one else does. Keep in mind the sniper just has one shot unlike the other guns that are basically automatic so any time a sniper comes in fairly close range with the enemy they are dead. Another thing is that the game isn't about being fair in one person or another eyes. Its meant to be realistic.

Now that you mention it I wouldn't mind a sniper rifle that was kind of automatic.

Like I said before if EA won't put this in their game someone else will. Just a matter of time before all these limitations against the sniper are gone. First it was COD 4 with perfect sniper rifles but small maps and few good sniping spots. Now its Bad Company 2 which has everything but fake sniper rifles.

because its not halo. ...thank god....ReaperV7

I think the sniping is fine. Only thing I don't like is with the first sniper you get you have to scope out automatically after each shot. Not a huge problem but when there is a group of enemies I want to stay scoped in.

I'm glad there is no prone. Sure, its nice for sniping but I really don't need to go into a building trying to plant a bomb just to have the other team laying down behind things with their guns poking out

[QUOTE="ReaperV7"]because its not halo. ...thank god....jg4xchamp

This guy goes out of his way to bash games he deems overrated, like in a thread about MAG he brought up BF for no reason as a way of bashing it...

As far as the scope, you really don't need to zoom in, just play the demo and you will realize why.

Most sniper scopes used by military personnel are usually only cIassed for a single magnification. This is a modern warfare game, not Halo.

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="Sonwhy"]

I know that they can scope but they can't zoom in and out. As a sniper I myself tend to usually be pretty far away from the enemy. Thats the whole idea and seeing as you can't zoom in than it makes me want to get closer to the enemy to get a better view when I normally would never think of doing that as a sniper therefore it makes the game even more unrealistic as a result of this.

Sonwhy

Just becuz you think that doesn't mean every one else does. Keep in mind the sniper just has one shot unlike the other guns that are basically automatic so any time a sniper comes in fairly close range with the enemy they are dead. Another thing is that the game isn't about being fair in one person or another eyes. Its meant to be realistic.

Now that you mention it I wouldn't mind a sniper rifle that was kind of automatic.

Like I said before if EA won't put this in their game someone else will. Just a matter of time before all these limitations against the sniper are gone. First it was COD 4 with perfect sniper rifles but small maps and few good sniping spots. Now its Bad Company 2 which has everything but fake sniper rifles.

Depends which gun you use, some rifles let you pop up a ton of shots before forcing you to scope out.

Keep in mind the sniper just has one shot unlike the other guns that are basically automatic so any time a sniper comes in fairly close range with the enemy they are dead.Sonwhy

Another thing is that the game isn't about being fair in one person or another eyes. Its meant to be realistic.Sonwhy

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="Sonwhy"]

I know that they can scope but they can't zoom in and out. As a sniper I myself tend to usually be pretty far away from the enemy. Thats the whole idea and seeing as you can't zoom in than it makes me want to get closer to the enemy to get a better view when I normally would never think of doing that as a sniper therefore it makes the game even more unrealistic as a result of this.

Sonwhy

Just becuz you think that doesn't mean every one else does. Keep in mind the sniper just has one shot unlike the other guns that are basically automatic so any time a sniper comes in fairly close range with the enemy they are dead. Another thing is that the game isn't about being fair in one person or another eyes. Its meant to be realistic.

Now that you mention it I wouldn't mind a sniper rifle that was kind of automatic.

Like I said before if EA won't put this in their game someone else will. Just a matter of time before all these limitations against the sniper are gone. First it was COD 4 with perfect sniper rifles but small maps and few good sniping spots. Now its Bad Company 2 which has everything but fake sniper rifles.

Sniper's do have a pistol though which is pretty effective and they have the element of cover. If you want to sniper in an area you can always put those motion sensing balls down to alert you of someone's presence. If you hear them coming you can get into some shrubbery and take them out with a pistol or knife. Don't say its not possible because I do it all the time

[QUOTE="Sonwhy"]Keep in mind the sniper just has one shot unlike the other guns that are basically automatic so any time a sniper comes in fairly close range with the enemy they are dead.Cherokee_Jack

Another thing is that the game isn't about being fair in one person or another eyes. Its meant to be realistic.Sonwhy

But you don't have any levels of magniciation in this game. I have played a battlefield game and when using a sniper rifle you could never zoom in and it ruined the experience as a result. Luckily I only payed $15 for the DLC of the game.

Anyway I will just have to wait a little longer for a real fps game to come out like Crysis 2, Farcry 3, Rage, or some other game to give me what I want. At least in modern warfare 2 they let the sniper go prone, zoom in and out with sniper rifles, and you can get a shotgun in case anyone tries to **** with you.

believe me, the sniper rifles work just fine. you have the option for a higher powered scope when you reach a certain level, if that helps.

also, prone is not needed because snipers blend with bushes very effectively.

Ever consider that it could be due to balancing issues? That DICE prioritizes balance over "realism"?

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="Sonwhy"]

I know that they can scope but they can't zoom in and out. As a sniper I myself tend to usually be pretty far away from the enemy. Thats the whole idea and seeing as you can't zoom in than it makes me want to get closer to the enemy to get a better view when I normally would never think of doing that as a sniper therefore it makes the game even more unrealistic as a result of this.

Sonwhy

Just becuz you think that doesn't mean every one else does. Keep in mind the sniper just has one shot unlike the other guns that are basically automatic so any time a sniper comes in fairly close range with the enemy they are dead. Another thing is that the game isn't about being fair in one person or another eyes. Its meant to be realistic.

Now that you mention it I wouldn't mind a sniper rifle that was kind of automatic.

Like I said before if EA won't put this in their game someone else will. Just a matter of time before all these limitations against the sniper are gone. First it was COD 4 with perfect sniper rifles but small maps and few good sniping spots. Now its Bad Company 2 which has everything but fake sniper rifles.

Wow. Apparently not. The bold is just about as factually incorrect as one can get.

believe me, the sniper rifles work just fine. you have the option for a higher powered scope when you reach a certain level, if that helps.

Mordred19

Tremendously. It just depends on how much the higher level sniper rifles zoom in or are automatically fixed zoomed in. If it has a decent level of magnification than I don't have much to complain about.

Ever consider that it could be due to balancing issues? That DICE prioritizes balance over "realism"?

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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"] That would make snipers overpowered.InsaneBasura

Just becuz you think that doesn't mean every one else does. Keep in mind the sniper just has one shot unlike the other guns that are basically automatic so any time a sniper comes in fairly close range with the enemy they are dead. Another thing is that the game isn't about being fair in one person or another eyes. Its meant to be realistic.

Now that you mention it I wouldn't mind a sniper rifle that was kind of automatic.

Like I said before if EA won't put this in their game someone else will. Just a matter of time before all these limitations against the sniper are gone. First it was COD 4 with perfect sniper rifles but small maps and few good sniping spots. Now its Bad Company 2 which has everything but fake sniper rifles.

Wow. Apparently not. The bold is just about as factually incorrect as one can get.

Did it ever occur to you that maybe I don't care about the needs of others in this case? I think most snipers think like me and don't care how other people feel about it. If you can't handle it than do something about it or leave. Don't let a game company make a decision for you. I think EA or DICE is just saying well the little baby can't handle it. Basically by them taking away the snipers abilities one could question whether or not the game was based on any skill at all becuz thats a part of the battlefield.

I don't think EA is being fair to the sniper in this case.

If I remember correctly you can once you unlock different scopes.

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="Sonwhy"]Keep in mind the sniper just has one shot unlike the other guns that are basically automatic so any time a sniper comes in fairly close range with the enemy they are dead.Sonwhy

Another thing is that the game isn't about being fair in one person or another eyes. Its meant to be realistic.Sonwhy

But you don't have any levels of magniciation in this game. I have played a battlefield game and when using a sniper rifle you could never zoom in and it ruined the experience as a result. Luckily I only payed $15 for the DLC of the game.

Anyway I will just have to wait a little longer for a real fps game to come out like Crysis 2, Farcry 3, Rage, or some other game to give me what I want. At least in modern warfare 2 they let the sniper go prone, zoom in and out with sniper rifles, and you can get a shotgun in case anyone tries to **** with you.

realism -

a lot of rifles dont have variable zoom in real life

balance - either way i think it would be pretty balanced

what you want - i know all u want is find some corner and camp there prone all day but have fun doing that when every other kid and hes friend is doing it too.

Because it's a fixed power scope? Not all scopes have variable powers.Penguinchow

Put your face closer to the TV.

But you don't have any levels of magniciation in this game. I have played a battlefield game and when using a sniper rifle you could never zoom in and it ruined the experience as a result.Sonwhy

[QUOTE="93soccer"]LOL Go play it first before making assumptions. Although it's true that you can't go prone, every gun (except shotguns) can use the iron sights/ scopes attached. Snipers can scopeSonwhy

I know that they can scope but they can't zoom in and out. As a sniper I myself tend to usually be pretty far away from the enemy. Thats the whole idea and seeing as you can't zoom in than it makes me want to get closer to the enemy to get a better view when I normally would never think of doing that as a sniper therefore it makes the game even more unrealistic as a result of this.

You know you can't just magically change the zoom level of a scope without actually changing the scope out in real life? Why other games have several levels of zoom makes no sense.

[QUOTE="Sonwhy"]But you don't have any levels of magniciation in this game. I have played a battlefield game and when using a sniper rifle you could never zoom in and it ruined the experience as a result.Cherokee_Jack

It honestly feels like snipers might be a little overpowered in the game. I've never felt like I was at a disadvantage, no matter how close people got to me. The handgun works good.

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="Sonwhy"]But you don't have any levels of magniciation in this game. I have played a battlefield game and when using a sniper rifle you could never zoom in and it ruined the experience as a result.topgunmv

It honestly feels like snipers might be a little overpowered in the game. I've never felt like I was at a disadvantage, no matter how close people got to me. The handgun works good.

Put your face closer to the TV.

goblaa

haha Lol

Put your face closer to the TV.

goblaa

HAHAHAHA. :lol:

because its not halo. ...thank god....ReaperV7

once again...no one is even talking about halo and yet it still is talked about for no reason

probably because it's just so damn good

because its not halo. ...thank god....ReaperV7

To the Quoted: Sorry but you require this.

Elitism - ON

I don't even have to have had played Halo to know it's better than anything Battlefield has come out with. I play CS and Battlefield is still can't touch its game play and failing miserably at that. I don't know what Bad Company 2 is but sounds like a Bad game for Bad casual players like you, same with the rest of the Battlefields. Halo is better than Battlefield and I haven't even played Halo.

Elitism - OFF.

Have a nice day.

[QUOTE="93soccer"]LOL Go play it first before making assumptions. Although it's true that you can't go prone, every gun (except shotguns) can use the iron sights/ scopes attached. Snipers can scopeSonwhy

I know that they can scope but they can't zoom in and out. As a sniper I myself tend to usually be pretty far away from the enemy. Thats the whole idea and seeing as you can't zoom in than it makes me want to get closer to the enemy to get a better view when I normally would never think of doing that as a sniper therefore it makes the game even more unrealistic as a result of this.

lol complaining about realism

"oh snap son they just shot the tank with an rpg"

"dont worry homes i have this impact drill, ill just push it into the armour and fix it up quick-fast"

or

"aaaargh ive been shot"

"heres a box with a cross on it"

"im feeling much better"

this game is awesome. its not the messiah people are expecting it to be (it reminds me of the blazblue-obsessed people who figured it would completely replace street fighter) but its a very fun game especially when youre not playing with garbage pub players.

LMAO we can fly people into outerspace yet they cant make a real life varible scope........i think you all who say this need to stop talking cause cleary you do not know what your talking about.

I'd advise playing the game before bashing it. (Keyword is 'playing'.)

oh and if you want to snipe i suggest getting mag........its the best game to be a sniper :-)

[QUOTE="ReaperV7"]because its not halo. ...thank god....Human-after-all

To the Quoted: Sorry but you require this.

Elitism - ON

I don't even have to have had played Halo to know it's better than anything Battlefield has come out with. I play CS and Battlefield is still can't touch its game play and failing miserably at that. I don't know what Bad Company 2 is but sounds like a Bad game for Bad casual players like you, same with the rest of the Battlefields. Halo is better than Battlefield and I haven't even played Halo.

Elitism - OFF.

Have a nice day.

POWER UP SARCASM AND SPITE...

Wow, so you don't have to play EITHER of 2 games to know one is better than the other? Fascinating. Some people judge a book by its cover. You don't even need to see the book! Ehh, no matter. I mean, who needs reading anyway? I love the "clever" use of bad in your putdowns. It's like you took "bad" to its literal meaning and illicited a sly witticism from the reciprocal usage of said word! Bravo, sir. You've managed to take closemindedness to a new level.

POWERING DOWN

I have been checking out some gameplay of the game on youtube and I notice that you can't zoom in with the sniper rifles. Also, you can't go prone. I know that some people may think well that would simply be too much of an advantage for the sniper but the fact is that the game is not as realitic as what it could have been without this.

Besides if EA won't include that with bad company 2 than someone else will just make a game that has good size maps with good graphics that allows you to do this as a sniper and I will be playing that game instead becuz of this. I will be looking even more forward to crysis 2 or Farcry 3 or maybe some other game like Rage will give me what I want.

Sonwhy

Snipers do enough damage already, going prone and zooming would make them so horribly OP nobody would want to play.

While you cannot zoom in with the stock scope, you can unlock scopes for further magnification in the full game, but that level of magnification is constant, so even if you put a 12x scope on your rifle, you cannot zoom out to a lower magnification. Also I'm glad there is no prone, the Recon class would be madly overpowered and the game would turn into a bunch of dolphins diving everywhere.

I have been checking out some gameplay of the game on youtube and I notice that you can't zoom in with the sniper rifles. Also, you can't go prone. I know that some people may think well that would simply be too much of an advantage for the sniper but the fact is that the game is not as realitic as what it could have been without this.

Besides if EA won't include that with bad company 2 than someone else will just make a game that has good size maps with good graphics that allows you to do this as a sniper and I will be playing that game instead becuz of this. I will be looking even more forward to crysis 2 or Farcry 3 or maybe some other game like Rage will give me what I want.

While you cannot zoom in with the stock scope, you can unlock scopes for further magnification in the full game, but that level of magnification is constant, so even if you put a 12x scope on your rifle, you cannot zoom out to a lower magnification. Also I'm glad there is no prone, the Recon class would be madly overpowered and the game would turn into a bunch of dolphins diving everywhere.

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