When did it become matter of fact that the PS5 was coming in 2019? I keep seeing Cows suggesting that the PS5 is coming out VERY soon, like next year (or, just as unlikely, anytime before Holiday 2021).
Cows are speaking as if its already the end of the generation, and they're already hanging up the curtain on the PS4, and using this as an excuse to justify Sony's enemic looking E3 lineup, and the fact that most of the games on the itinerary have been shown for the last 2 E3s.
Look, Sony had an awesome E3 in 2016, but they clearly blew their load prematurely back then, as what was shown then was pretty much the entire next 3 years of their first party lineup. We know what basically all of their studios are doing, or have done, or WILL do for a while.
Mark my words. At most, there will be another iteration of the PS4. A "PS4 Pro 2". You will not see a legitimate 9th generation traditional console before Holiday 2021.
There will not be a large enough gap in hardware in 2019 to justify an entirely new generation of hardware, called "Playstation 5", abandoning the "PS4" brand. Unless they plan to change the definition of hardware generations. Or make their games foreward compatable and handicap themselves to inferior hardware anyways. Or completely abandon their current massive userbase while they are winning and printing money hand over fist, which would be monumentally stupid, and pointless.
And we also know that Sony doesnt have the money or resources to do a crazy loss leader strategy and develop exotic custom tech, nor do they have any impetus to (because again.....they're winning.), so anything they make will be all off the shelf tech. And again, there isnt enough of a gap to justify a new hardware gen yet. Nor are developers even asking for it. Nor will there be any fundemental changes in current game development conventions that will demand this new hardware this quickly.
Seems Cows are anxious for Sony to hurry up and push out new hardware as quickly as possible, because they lost the power narrative over Scorpio.
When did it become matter of fact that the PS5 was coming in 2019? I keep seeing Cows suggesting that the PS5 is coming out VERY soon, like next year (or, just as unlikely, anytime before Holiday 2021).
Cows are speaking as if its already the end of the generation, and they're already hanging up the curtain on the PS4, and using this as an excuse to justify Sony's enemic looking E3 lineup, and the fact that most of the games on the itinerary have been shown for the last 2 E3s.
Look, Sony had an awesome E3 in 2016, but they clearly blew their load prematurely back then, as what was shown then was pretty much the entire next 3 years of their first party lineup. We know what basically all of their studios are doing, or have done, or WILL do for a while.
Mark my words. At most, there will be another iteration of the PS4. A "PS4 Pro 2". You will not see a legitimate 9th generation traditional console before Holiday 2021.
There will not be a large enough gap in hardware in 2019 to justify an entirely new generation of hardware, called "Playstation 5", abandoning the "PS4" brand. Unless they plan to change the definition of hardware generations. Or make their games foreward compatable and handicap themselves to inferior hardware anyways. Or completely abandon their current massive userbase while they are winning and printing money hand over fist, which would be monumentally stupid, and pointless.
And we also know that Sony doesnt have the money or resources to do a crazy loss leader strategy and develop exotic custom tech, nor do they have any impetus to (because again.....they're winning.), so anything they make will be all off the shelf tech. And again, there isnt enough of a gap to justify a new hardware gen yet. Nor are developers even asking for it. Nor will there be any fundemental changes in current game development conventions that will demand this new hardware this quickly.
Seems Cows are anxious for Sony to hurry up and push out new hardware as quickly as possible, because they lost the power narrative over Scorpio.
PS: If anyone is excited for the PS5 it's because the CPU in both the Pro and the Scorpio are potatoes. kthxbye
Part of me thinks its anxiety about:
Losing the current gen power narrative to Xbox One X
The pendulum possibly swinging back to Microsoft next gen, and Cows wanting Sony to neuter any impending momentum in that direction by pushing out hardware as quickly as possible, before its due. This didn't go well for Sega either of the TWO times they attempted this.
Its weird. I've seen Cows, in fact, I think I might have even seen you (dont remember) in the last week or so suggesting Lems had already given up on this gen, and they had their next 3 years planned out waiting for next gen.
I don’t hear any cows say they want ps5. Most said 2020 at earliest. I myself don’t mind if it comes out at 2022.
There are alot of Cows in the Sony E3 press conference Shawn Laydon thread suggesting that PS4's enemic lineup (of games that have made cameos at the last 2 E3s) is ok because were at the end of the gen, and were on the eve of the PS5.
I don’t hear any cows say they want ps5. Most said 2020 at earliest. I myself don’t mind if it comes out at 2022.
There are alot of Cows in the Sony E3 press conference Shawn Laydon thread suggesting that PS4's enemic lineup (of games that have made cameos at the last 2 E3s) is ok because were at the end of the gen, and were on the eve of the PS5.
I don’t hear any cows say they want ps5. Most said 2020 at earliest. I myself don’t mind if it comes out at 2022.
There are alot of Cows in the Sony E3 press conference Shawn Laydon thread suggesting that PS4's enemic lineup (of games that have made cameos at the last 2 E3s) is ok because were at the end of the gen, and were on the eve of the PS5.
Excited for E3? Well don't expect much if any NEW AAA games released for this generation!
@tgob89 said:
PS4
For Sony fans, I wouldn't get too disappointed If Sony don't announce a ton of NEW AAA projects at E3 because PS5 is right around the corner and they will probably be saving most those announcements for PSX or E3 2019 closer to PS5 announcement to build hype (granted most if not all titles will be cross gen with PS4)
The bright side for PS4 here is that we already know about a bunch of fantastic looking AAA PS4 titles that Sony has already filled us in on.
God of War
Detroit Become Human
Ghosts of Tsushima
Spiderman
Death Stranding
This is probably going to be it for the AAA titles that release this gen (Now time fall 2019) PS5 most likely releasing fall 2019 or 1Q 2020 with small chance of fall 2020.
I don't really know why anyone would be surprised.
Sony has already announced 5 AAA juggernaut level exclusives that are all due to come out from now til the end of 2019 NOT including God of War that just released.
All they need to do is put out more info on those games.
People acting a little like dumbasss in here if they way to say something about Sony not doing enough for this E3 when they've already delivered a high profile AAA before E3 and MS will be lucky if they have 2 titles even close to GOW before the gen is over.
Sony can take their time. I rather spend that money on games or upgrading my PC. Sony has nothing to envy from MS, who's doing everything possible to split their userbase in every fashion with nothing to show for it. Things are a mess at Xbox. It seems like the biggest strategy at MS at current is trying to get all the third-party console exclusives that PS4 had on Xbox.
Sony dictates all of MS's actions this gen, not the other way around. MS is acting like a jilted lover whose girlfriend was stolen by Sony and they're trying too hard to get her back. But she realizes MS is still the same loser with a nicer car, but he can't move on.
I do remember Sony saying in the past the next generation does not start until we want it to.
They have no reason to stop it, and the next consoles will probably be 4k 60fps. Not that much of a giant leap over X or Pro. Why not keep it going? They can keep throwing sales numbers out there.
I don’t hear any cows say they want ps5. Most said 2020 at earliest. I myself don’t mind if it comes out at 2022.
There are alot of Cows in the Sony E3 press conference Shawn Laydon thread suggesting that PS4's enemic lineup (of games that have made cameos at the last 2 E3s) is ok because were at the end of the gen, and were on the eve of the PS5.
Excited for E3? Well don't expect much if any NEW AAA games released for this generation!
@tgob89 said:
PS4
For Sony fans, I wouldn't get too disappointed If Sony don't announce a ton of NEW AAA projects at E3 because PS5 is right around the corner and they will probably be saving most those announcements for PSX or E3 2019 closer to PS5 announcement to build hype (granted most if not all titles will be cross gen with PS4)
The bright side for PS4 here is that we already know about a bunch of fantastic looking AAA PS4 titles that Sony has already filled us in on.
God of War
Detroit Become Human
Ghosts of Tsushima
Spiderman
Death Stranding
This is probably going to be it for the AAA titles that release this gen (Now time fall 2019) PS5 most likely releasing fall 2019 or 1Q 2020 with small chance of fall 2020.
I don't really know why anyone would be surprised.
Sony has already announced 5 AAA juggernaut level exclusives that are all due to come out from now til the end of 2019 NOT including God of War that just released.
All they need to do is put out more info on those games.
People acting a little like dumbasss in here if they way to say something about Sony not doing enough for this E3 when they've already delivered a high profile AAA before E3 and MS will be lucky if they have 2 titles even close to GOW before the gen is over.
So one post from one supposed cow guessing Sony might hold some projects until PS5, which he/she believes will be announced a year from now, which if correct, will be released 2020 is all cows being anxious? Lol talk about a reach.
If anything it's consistent with what cows expect from Sony in terms of PS5 release years, which everyone, both lems and cows, agree is a reasonable timetable. Go play God of War. It's much more fun than this!
Are we taking bets that once the PS5 comes out, cows & the media will all of a sudden be interested in the power difference between the consoles again? Lol.
Because butthurt Cows like Quack and the rest have to play inferior Multiplats for the next few years! lol RDR2 is going to look best on X1X, remember the more grass on the PS4 over the X1 in GTA5!
What drugs are you on? Most "cows" think the ps5 won't drop until 2021 at the earliest, the ps4 is still selling like crazy and will hit 100 million sold soon, why would they want to ruin that?
Playstation 5... no, Playstation 4... no, I just bought a Dreamcast... :D and it didn't come with VGA hookups so I am currently using S-video on my older TV
You do know that most sequels don't do live up to the Originals right? Death Stranding could be hit or miss. Last great Sucker Punch game? Spiderman is the sure hit of the 4.
PS5 isn't coming any time soon. The earliest it might launch is 2020.
Excited for E3? Well don't expect much if any NEW AAA games released for this generation!
@tgob89 said:
PS4
For Sony fans, I wouldn't get too disappointed If Sony don't announce a ton of NEW AAA projects at E3 because PS5 is right around the corner and they will probably be saving most those announcements for PSX or E3 2019 closer to PS5 announcement to build hype (granted most if not all titles will be cross gen with PS4)
The bright side for PS4 here is that we already know about a bunch of fantastic looking AAA PS4 titles that Sony has already filled us in on.
God of War
Detroit Become Human
Ghosts of Tsushima
Spiderman
Death Stranding
This is probably going to be it for the AAA titles that release this gen (Now time fall 2019) PS5 most likely releasing fall 2019 or 1Q 2020 with small chance of fall 2020.
I don't really know why anyone would be surprised.
Sony has already announced 5 AAA juggernaut level exclusives that are all due to come out from now til the end of 2019 NOT including God of War that just released.
All they need to do is put out more info on those games.
People acting a little like dumbasss in here if they way to say something about Sony not doing enough for this E3 when they've already delivered a high profile AAA before E3 and MS will be lucky if they have 2 titles even close to GOW before the gen is over.
LMAO, Damn your post comes off like you're about to cry.
What desperation and just plain wishful thinking on your part...Let's just look at what you wrote to see just how delusional and desperate you are:
@StrongDeadlift said:
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Mark my words. At most, there will be another iteration of the PS4. A "PS4 Pro 2". You will not see a legitimate 9th generation traditional console before Holiday 2021.
LMAO, talk about going out into left field.
You JUST said cows are the ones anxious for new hardware and then YOU follow up with saying Sony will release another mid-gen refresh before PS5, LMAO what?
This is literally supported by NO ONE in the game industry. There are literally 0 reports of sony thinking/planing/possibly doing this so...you literally just made that up or rather WISH this happens because YOU are horrified of a true next gen system with exclusives because XboneX has none.
@StrongDeadlift said:
When did it become matter of fact that the PS5 was coming in 2019? I keep seeing Cows suggesting that the PS5 is coming out VERY soon, like next year (or, just as unlikely, anytime before Holiday 2021).
Cows?
PS5 Release Date: Dev Kit Rumor Supports 2019 Launch
Sony PlayStation 5 Release Date: PS5 Tipped For 2020
Yes, it's "the cows" who are saying this!
Now come back to reality lem, 2019 and 2020 are just the main numbers that you hear industry insiders making when speaking on PS5 projections not "da cows" like you desperately suggesting.
I just went with what has been stated by most people in the industry and made my projection with that in mind. Acting like sony fans just pulled numbers out of their ass like you did your "PS4 Pro 2" prediction is just more of your fanboy fantasies.
@StrongDeadlift said:
Cows are speaking as if its already the end of the generation...and using this as an excuse to justify Sony's enemic looking E3 lineup, and the fact that most of the games on the itinerary have been shown for the last 2 E3s.
Psst, hey genius, what I posted WASN'T hindsight nor anything to "excuse" anything after the fact since my post you're using as an example was...
Edited 1 month, 11 days ago
^^^^^^^^^^
Hold your L clown.
Excited for E3? Well don't expect much if any NEW AAA games released for this generation!
The bright side for PS4 here is that we already know about a bunch of fantastic looking AAA PS4 titles that Sony has already filled us in on.
God of War
Detroit Become Human
Ghosts of Tsushima
Spiderman
Death Stranding
This is probably going to be it for the AAA titles that release this gen (Now time fall 2019)
So...lemming my post made over a MONTH AGO was an "excuse" for Sony's E3 show that was revealed TODAY?
Try again!
Learn the difference between damage control and a prediction lembo. I simply made an accurate projection #DealWithIt.
Literally NO ONE knew about Sony's lineup before it actually happened...but because I already predicted EXACTLY what it's turning out to be YOU'RE the one making an excuse since you're trying to change history in HINDSIGHT! I am just being consistent.
@StrongDeadlift said:
....."blah blah mental gymnastics and such"...
Seems Cows are anxious for Sony to hurry up and push out new hardware as quickly as possible, because they lost the power narrative over Scorpio.
Ahh there it is!!!
And finally we come to the point of your desperate post and it's revealed for what it really is...
Upon the release of PS5 my precious "Scorpio" will become (even more) irrelevant because PS5 will usher in next gen exclusives and effectively KILL off what was left of my failed X investment.
Haha I gotcha buddy. You made a dumb investment into dead end hardware and you feel frustrated and want lash out at everyone except the main one to blame, yourself.
Sorry kiddo, PS4 fans aren't dying for new hardware we just know it's coming and our games are still the best looking in the industry and release on a yearly basis.
Sorry you were triggered by my post talking about Sony having 4 huge AAAs means they have anemic line up? Maybe you're confusing that with X1 for the last 3 years? Scratch that, Has MS even had 4 AAA games this generation? Maybe that's asking too much from MS huh?
TL;DR
What you quoted, I posted a MONTH AGO, Sony revealed their E3 plans TODAY!
If there is any desperation or excuses here, it's you making up some hair brained arguments about a PS4 Pro 2 in hopes to Sony extend the generation further for your failed xboneX investment because it can't compete with next-gen exclusives LMAO.
Weather PS5 releases 2019 or as far as 2021, or if Sony has only 4 AAA games this E3 vs a ton of MS showing pre-rendered CGI...
Because butthurt Cows like Quack and the rest have to play inferior Multiplats for the next few years! lol RDR2 is going to look best on X1X, remember the more grass on the PS4 over the X1 in GTA5!
Now run and hide behind the PC, Cows!
And yet on what machine will you still find the worst version of every multiplat? That's right.... Microsofts Xbox 1......hahahahahahaha
Because butthurt Cows like Quack and the rest have to play inferior Multiplats for the next few years! lol RDR2 is going to look best on X1X, remember the more grass on the PS4 over the X1 in GTA5!
Now run and hide behind the PC, Cows!
And yet on what machine will you still find the worst version of every multiplat? That's right.... Microsofts Xbox 1......hahahahahahaha
I honestly don't care about better multiplats that PS4 supposedly had, it was cool to know but didn't have any impact on me choosing PS4 this gen nor have I ever made any arguments about me liking PS4 over xbox one for better multiplats.
I may be in the minority but I only look at the exclusive selection when choosing systems, that and how the parent company supports their platform throughout the generation.
Lemmings are desperately trying to promote power, but it doesn't mean shit to most people if they can't see that difference clearly being shown I.E. Exclusives that take advantage of the hardware. A slightly inferior looking version of a multiplat we can play is....still a game we can play while an exclusive we can not.
Because butthurt Cows like Quack and the rest have to play inferior Multiplats for the next few years! lol RDR2 is going to look best on X1X, remember the more grass on the PS4 over the X1 in GTA5!
Now run and hide behind the PC, Cows!
And yet on what machine will you still find the worst version of every multiplat? That's right.... Microsofts Xbox 1......hahahahahahaha
I honestly don't care about better multiplats that PS4 supposedly had, it was cool to know but didn't have any impact on me choosing PS4 this gen nor have I ever made any arguments about me liking PS4 over xbox one for better multiplats.
I may be in the minority but I only look at the exclusive selection when choosing systems, that and how the parent company supports their platform throughout the generation.
Lemmings are desperately trying to promote power, but it doesn't mean shit to most people if they can't see that difference clearly being shown I.E. Exclusives that take advantage of the hardware. A slightly inferior looking version of a multiplat we can play is....still a game we can play while an exclusive we can not.
Yeah. It's kinda weird. Especially with the multiplat history of PS1 , PS2 , and PS3. We've never needed the best versions of multiplats . Games and talent will win out. This gen PS4 just happened to have better multiplats and people were just poking fun of Lemmings. They claimed Durango would stomp Orbis , lol. They spent so much time talking about secret sauces , the cloud , DX 12 , etc this gen , lol..And now they are going crazy for Xbone X and are fearing the announcement of PS5 , LMFAO.
People are talking about PS5 because we are 4 and a half years into the generation already. It's natural behavior even if people are happy with PS4 and very excited about the upcoming lineup - Spider-man , Ghost of Tsushima , The Last of Us Part II , Death Stranding , etc.
Heres why they arent anxious for another console: They are not gaming on an XBox...
Im not a fan of ether console personally but the way I see it the PS4 is doing a great job for console gamers and the Xbox is doing nothing but pointlessly releasing a more powerful console to play the same lack of exclusive games on. The hope for a new console to bring with it new games is not true for Xbox and the XBone 2 is proof of that. Sony are looking after their buyers by rewarding them with the games they like. The PS4 has enough exclusive games to keep them happy and there are plenty more on the horizon. It has been proven by the commitment from Sony that PS4 gamers will get that with or without new hardware.
Everyone took the piss out of Xbox because it cost more and performed worse. Now it just costs more.
It makes sense to release the hardware as soon as AMD is finished with their next process for the new ryzen APUs, which should be next year sometime plus whatever the amount of time it is to produce about 5-10 million of them for launch. And obviously if the price to performance ratio is good enough with yields.
@RR360DD: What reality are you from cause it isn't this one lol. The XoneX came out and all I saw from the ps4 crowd were predictions for a 2020 or 2021 ps5 release.
So much more can be done with PS4. More features to PSN (BC and bring back online functionality to some past games, give them ps4pro sauce). They could easily get some third party studios to work on this. Boost up PSNow maybe team up with Amazon/Google. Finally, maybe see some Ps4/PC play anywhere titles, maybe not for singleplayer games but maybe some multiplayer titles.
I think that lems are hoping that. They are dreaming of PS5 being a weak ass POS, but in reality it will be another gen of SONY DOMINATION CONTINUATION.
With all the barn busting, limousine riding, genre defining, AAA exclusives coming out over the next 2 years, I'm OK with a 2021 release.
Microsoft need to go back to the drawing board so they don't have another XFLOP.
Losing the current gen power narrative to Xbox One X
The pendulum possibly swinging back to Microsoft next gen, and Cows wanting Sony to neuter any impending momentum in that direction by pushing out hardware as quickly as possible, before its due. This didn't go well for Sega either of the TWO times they attempted this.
Its weird. I've seen Cows, in fact, I think I might have even seen you (dont remember) in the last week or so suggesting Lems had already given up on this gen, and they had their next 3 years planned out waiting for next gen.
Who is anxious about the PS5.?
1-Yeah that really made me lose sleeping time each day,specially since all that power is focused on playing last gen and even games from 2001..
2-Yeah and that would do what? The xbox is selling like dirt people don't want it,power means nothing without games.
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