Why did it take Turn 10 3 years to have **** pit view?

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#1 spike6566
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when other companies had it done a year after release of all the current gen consoles. PGR had it done for hte 360 when it came out. PD took it to another lvl with quality. while turn 10 had to take 3 years to do it. what are your thoughts?

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#2 cainetao11
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I don't know......their not as good, cool? I like the way Forza 3 looks anyway. And GT5.
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#3 wayne_kar
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they were to busy smoke cigarettes and playing darts i think

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#4 -Pred-Alien-
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Because that time is better spent on making the game. In-car view is a novelty, the first-person view is always by far the best.
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#6 CreepyBacon
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Whens GT getting damage again?

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#7 AdrianWerner
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well..it took PD like 10years do do it, so Turn10 still was quicker :D

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#8 The_Game21x
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Considering that GT5 still isn't out yet and Forza 3 will be out in a few months, it looks like Turn 10 will beat Polyphony Digital to the punch...again. :D

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#9 whatisazerg
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Because that time is better spent on making the game. In-car view is a novelty, the first-person view is always by far the best.-Pred-Alien-

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[QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"]Because that time is better spent on making the game. In-car view is a novelty, the first-person view is always by far the best.whatisazerg

*facepalm*

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Every sim ive played i always end up in the first person view. Semi-sims like PGR4, Dirt or Grid its the bonnet view. But offcourse, a simple picture is enough to prove me wrong:|

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#11 aaronmullan
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Why did it take Gran Turismo 11 years to get damage? :P
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#12 whatisazerg
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[QUOTE="whatisazerg"]

[QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"]Because that time is better spent on making the game. In-car view is a novelty, the first-person view is always by far the best.-Pred-Alien-

*facepalm*

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Every sim ive played i always end up in the first person view. Semi-sims like PGR4, Dirt or Grid its the bonnet view. But offcourse, a simple picture is enough to prove me wrong:|

you still havent got it yet, huh?..... First Person View is from inside the car!

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#13 St_muscat
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Why did it take Gran Turismo 11 years to get damage? :Paaronmullan
And probably still not get damage even after that :P.

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#14 St_muscat
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[QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"]

[QUOTE="whatisazerg"]

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whatisazerg

Every sim ive played i always end up in the first person view. Semi-sims like PGR4, Dirt or Grid its the bonnet view. But offcourse, a simple picture is enough to prove me wrong:|

you still havent got it yet, huh?..... First Person View is from inside the car!

Saved this thread as a favorite for future lolz, nice work whatisazerg.

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[QUOTE="whatisazerg"]

[QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"]Every sim ive played i always end up in the first person view. Semi-sims like PGR4, Dirt or Grid its the bonnet view. But offcourse, a simple picture is enough to prove me wrong:|

St_muscat

you still havent got it yet, huh?..... First Person View is from inside the car!

Saved this thread as a favorite for future lolz, nice work whatisazerg.

thx.... here's some more for ya...

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when other companies had it done a year after release of all the current gen consoles. PGR had it done for hte 360 when it came out. PD took it to another lvl with quality. while turn 10 had to take 3 years to do it. what are your thoughts?

spike6566

Why did it take GT5 developers so long to get online play?

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#17 spike6566
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[QUOTE="Jamex1987"]

[QUOTE="spike6566"] [QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"]

[QUOTE="whatisazerg"]

Because that time is better spent on making the game. In-car view is a novelty, the first-person view is always by far the best.-Pred-Alien-

*facepalm*

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Every sim ive played i always end up in the first person view. Semi-sims like PGR4, Dirt or Grid its the bonnet view. But offcourse, a simple picture is enough to prove me wrong:|

unless you drive a on the hood of your car in RL. first person view is suppose be from the cockpit view.
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#18 spike6566
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[QUOTE="Jamex1987"]

[QUOTE="spike6566"]

when other companies had it done a year after release of all the current gen consoles. PGR had it done for hte 360 when it came out. PD took it to another lvl with quality. while turn 10 had to take 3 years to do it. what are your thoughts?

Why did it take GT5 developers so long to get online play?

umm let seee, PS2 wasnt really a online system? common sense wins again.
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#19 Dr_Snood
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[QUOTE="Jamex1987"]

[QUOTE="spike6566"]

when other companies had it done a year after release of all the current gen consoles. PGR had it done for hte 360 when it came out. PD took it to another lvl with quality. while turn 10 had to take 3 years to do it. what are your thoughts?

Why did it take GT5 developers so long to get online play?

Are you serious?
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#20 wayne_kar
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[QUOTE="spike6566"][QUOTE="Jamex1987"]

[QUOTE="spike6566"]

when other companies had it done a year after release of all the current gen consoles. PGR had it done for hte 360 when it came out. PD took it to another lvl with quality. while turn 10 had to take 3 years to do it. what are your thoughts?

Why did it take GT5 developers so long to get online play?

umm let seee, PS2 wasnt really a online system? common sense wins again.

PS2 was an online console.
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#21 spike6566
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[QUOTE="spike6566"][QUOTE="Jamex1987"] Why did it take GT5 developers so long to get online play?

wayne_kar

umm let seee, PS2 wasnt really a online system? common sense wins again.

PS2 was an online console.

oh really, then why we had to spend money for a addon? which 1% of ps2 owners bought.

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#22 walkingdream
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Their working on the physics, something PD should do!
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#23 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="Jamex1987"]

[QUOTE="spike6566"]

when other companies had it done a year after release of all the current gen consoles. PGR had it done for hte 360 when it came out. PD took it to another lvl with quality. while turn 10 had to take 3 years to do it. what are your thoughts?

spike6566

Why did it take GT5 developers so long to get online play?

umm let seee, PS2 wasnt really a online system? common sense wins again.

Yeah, that explains the network adapter Sony released for it (and later built in to the system) as well as all of the games on the PS2 that featured online play. :roll:

Please tell me you can come up with better arguments than that. :|

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[QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"]

[QUOTE="whatisazerg"]

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whatisazerg

Every sim ive played i always end up in the first person view. Semi-sims like PGR4, Dirt or Grid its the bonnet view. But offcourse, a simple picture is enough to prove me wrong:|

you still havent got it yet, huh?..... First Person View is from inside the car!

And youre acting like im the stupid one, why would i contradict myself, obviously by first-person i meant the in-car view (not cockpit):|

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#25 wayne_kar
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[QUOTE="wayne_kar"][QUOTE="spike6566"] umm let seee, PS2 wasnt really a online system? common sense wins again.spike6566

PS2 was an online console.

oh really, then why we had to spend money for a addon? which 1% of ps2 owners bought.

every slim had it. and socom and twisted metal black did quite well which both came bundled with it.
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#26 delta3074
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[QUOTE="spike6566"]

[QUOTE="wayne_kar"] PS2 was an online console. wayne_kar

oh really, then why we had to spend money for a addon? which 1% of ps2 owners bought.

every slim had it. and socom and twisted metal black did quite well which both came bundled with it.

true, my wife has a slim and i just went and checked, ethernet slot in the back confirmed.
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#27 Rikusaki
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Considering that GT5 still isn't out yet and Forza 3 will be out in a few months, it looks like Turn 10 will beat Polyphony Digital to the punch...again. :D

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Prologue has it...
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#28 jakehouston88
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Considering that GT5 still isn't out yet and Forza 3 will be out in a few months, it looks like Turn 10 will beat Polyphony Digital to the punch...again. :D

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Not really... GT5 will OWN Forza 3. :D
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#29 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Considering that GT5 still isn't out yet and Forza 3 will be out in a few months, it looks like Turn 10 will beat Polyphony Digital to the punch...again. :D

Rikusaki
Prologue has it...

I am aware of that.
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#30 Rikusaki
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[QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Considering that GT5 still isn't out yet and Forza 3 will be out in a few months, it looks like Turn 10 will beat Polyphony Digital to the punch...again. :D

The_Game21x
Prologue has it...

I am aware of that.

Polyphony beat Turn 10 to the punch when it comes to the cockpit view.
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#31 PBSnipes
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Need For Speed 3 had an in-car view back in 1998, why did it take Polyphony Digital ~9.5 years to have an in-car view?

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#32 TheOwnerOner
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Because pit views are hella annoying.

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#33 wolverine4262
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YOu are arguing about in car view?! Gt5 doesnt even have a release date yet...
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[QUOTE="spike6566"][QUOTE="Jamex1987"] Why did it take GT5 developers so long to get online play?

The_Game21x

umm let seee, PS2 wasnt really a online system? common sense wins again.

Yeah, that explains the network adapter Sony released for it (and later built in to the system) as well as all of the games on the PS2 that featured online play. :roll:

Please tell me you can come up with better arguments than that. :|

Hey remember that time Poly announced Online play for GT 4? Then they scrap it to give you photo mode and printer connection support to... print out car models? Yeah... what a blast of a feature that was, right? Who would NOT give up Online for printer (to one Sony printer only if I recall correctly) support?
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#35 BioShockOwnz
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Oh noes, no cockpit view!

Why did it take Polyphony over 2 generations?

Hmm... I guess Polyphony had to copy off GTR, PGR, and DiRT. :(

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Haha, and PS2 was online. Network adapter. Online Ratchet games. Socom games. Yeah, not a good excuse.

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when other companies had it done a year after release of all the current gen consoles. PGR had it done for hte 360 when it came out. PD took it to another lvl with quality. while turn 10 had to take 3 years to do it. what are your thoughts?

spike6566

I'm not sure what your point is cause it took PD longer to implement a in car dash view.

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[QUOTE="spike6566"][QUOTE="Jamex1987"] Why did it take GT5 developers so long to get online play?

The_Game21x

umm let seee, PS2 wasnt really a online system? common sense wins again.

Yeah, that explains the network adapter Sony released for it (and later built in to the system) as well as all of the games on the PS2 that featured online play. :roll:

Please tell me you can come up with better arguments than that. :|

Yeah, your argument was amazing. Citing a network adapter as your frame of reference.... Might as well say the 360 has chargeable controllers as a standard, because you can buy a peripheral to do so.
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#38 DarknessLion
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Didnt it take GT 8-10 years to have a pit view?
So it took Forza 3 years to have a interior view.
It went through 2 games forza 1 and 2.
it tokk GT 8-10 yearsto get it right in Prolouge
GT when through 4 games not including all the extras.
Wow Forza is so far behind....lawlz.
(Sarcasim)

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#39 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="spike6566"] umm let seee, PS2 wasnt really a online system? common sense wins again.rolo107

Yeah, that explains the network adapter Sony released for it (and later built in to the system) as well as all of the games on the PS2 that featured online play. :roll:

Please tell me you can come up with better arguments than that. :|

Yeah, your argument was amazing. Citing a network adapter as your frame of reference.... Might as well say the 360 has chargeable controllers as a standard, because you can buy a peripheral to do so.

Dude, there's no getting around the fact that the PS2 is an online capable system and that there were a large number of games that supported online play. :|
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#40 bphan
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Why did it take GT series 5 games to finally go online or damage.

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Because they didn't, and still don't have competition with cockpit views?

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#42 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="wayne_kar"][QUOTE="spike6566"] umm let seee, PS2 wasnt really a online system? common sense wins again.spike6566

PS2 was an online console.

oh really, then why we had to spend money for a addon? which 1% of ps2 owners bought.

the first run of ps2's you had to buy the ethernet adaptor which was the HDD adaptor as well, after that with the slim which most cows claim sold the most the ethernet adaptor was built in...so theres no excuse.
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#43 mariokart64fan
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play vigilante 8 on n64, thats one of the few games that used pit view,

, also race driven for snes did only copit view

so i am suprised also nascar 99 had it

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#44 contaminated
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the earliest in car view that comes to mind that i have played is twisted metal 1 pretty cool and this was in 1995 so you can say they are 14 years late.
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Uh, you can say cockpit without censoring it >_>
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#46 masiisam
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Mehhh... I simply don't care about in-car views..I play all my racers from the flying carpet cam..Higher lever of accuracy and sense of speed from whatever game you play

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In-car view is a novelty, the first-person view is always by far the best.-Pred-Alien-
please tell me... What do you see when you are driving a car? Because I'm pretty sure I see my steering wheel and dashboard.
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#48 killerfist
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Whens GT getting damage again?

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Pwned.:P I couldn't care less about cockpit view tbh. Yeah, it's nice, but not all that important imo.
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[QUOTE="whatisazerg"]

[QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"]Every sim ive played i always end up in the first person view. Semi-sims like PGR4, Dirt or Grid its the bonnet view. But offcourse, a simple picture is enough to prove me wrong:|

-Pred-Alien-

you still havent got it yet, huh?..... First Person View is from inside the car!

And youre acting like im the stupid one, why would i contradict myself, obviously by first-person i meant the in-car view (not cockpit):|

You can't just change the definition of first person view. And he knows what you meant by that statement which is why it is funny. First person view when driving will always be inside the car not outside. The front view will just be called the front view, simple as that.

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[QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"]In-car view is a novelty, the first-person view is always by far the best.hockeyruler12
please tell me... What do you see when you are driving a car? Because I'm pretty sure I see my steering wheel and dashboard.

You know what he means by "first person view". Seriously. :|