Why did M$ buy Rare if they are not even going to utilize them?

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I mean we would have Kameo 2 (Did not enjoy first but many did), Banjo trio & more perfect dark games and a lot more creative games! Hell if SONY bought Rare we would have awesome new games! The last good Rare game was Nuts & Bolt and that was barely! How the hell do you kill a creative studio like that? Kinect sports 1 & 2 :( I want some Banjo :(
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Sh*ts and giggles.

They need to utilize them far more.

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I mean we would have Kameo 2 (Did not enjoy first but many did), Banjo trio & more perfect dark games and a lot more creative games! Hell if SONY bought Rare we would have awesome new games! The last good Rare game was Nuts & Bolt and that was barely! How the hell do you kill a creative studio like that? Kinect sports 1 & 2 :( I want some Banjo :(Hoznary
Great points. Sony would use Rare much better than Micro$oft. Steve Jobs said it best when he said Microsoft really had no taste, and they never innovate. They simply use their monetary advantage to wash out the competition. It's too bad because I know if Sony owned them they would be turning out AAAE titles. Oh well, Sony will simply dominate the market next gen and Microsoft will be forced to back out.

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#4 Hoznary
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Sh*ts and giggles.

They need to utilize them far more.

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It started out good but when the kinect bs train started everything went south :(
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They just wanted to run then into the ground. This is similar to what EA does when they acquire studios. Most of the talent that made Rare great back in the 90s has left anyway.
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It's all part of the plan. You'll see....
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[QUOTE="Hoznary"]I mean we would have Kameo 2 (Did not enjoy first but many did), Banjo trio & more perfect dark games and a lot more creative games! Hell if SONY bought Rare we would have awesome new games! The last good Rare game was Nuts & Bolt and that was barely! How the hell do you kill a creative studio like that? Kinect sports 1 & 2 :( I want some Banjo :(PS3FanMan4Life

Great points. Sony would use Rare much better than Micro$oft. Steve Jobs said it best when he said Microsoft really had no taste, and they never innovate. They simply use their monetary advantage to wash out the competition. It's too bad because I know if Sony owned them they would be turning out AAAE titles. Oh well, Sony will simply dominate the market next gen and Microsoft will be forced to back out.

Honestly i really wish M$ never entered the console business :( They F'd it up a lot
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#8 Riverwolf007
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rare is just a brand, it makes little difference whether they get utilized or not.

if the people that were the backbone of rare are not there any longer i see little use in handing over the franchises if they are only going to get butchered.

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#9 mitu123
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Microsoft is just evil like that.

I hear they are making games for Xbox 720, but I rather wait and see that.

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#10 Hoznary
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rare is just a brand, it makes little difference whether they get utilized or not.

if the people that were the backbone of rare are not there any longer i see little use in handing over the franchises if they are only going to get butchered.

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Yeah it is now! But how can you just r@pe the creativity out of a team o.o?
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I mean we would have Kameo 2 (Did not enjoy first but many did), Banjo trio & more perfect dark games and a lot more creative games! Hell if SONY bought Rare we would have awesome new games! The last good Rare game was Nuts & Bolt and that was barely! How the hell do you kill a creative studio like that? Kinect sports 1 & 2 :( I want some Banjo :(Hoznary
You have no proof they aren't making any games. Also if Sony owned Rare they would have no advertising support. Rare made almost no money at all on their projects and they were just coming from failure after the Gamecube. Kinect made them money. So just wait until next gen, especially since there are not that many people at the new Rare studios as Rare split before MS owned them.
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[QUOTE="Hoznary"]I mean we would have Kameo 2 (Did not enjoy first but many did), Banjo trio & more perfect dark games and a lot more creative games! Hell if SONY bought Rare we would have awesome new games! The last good Rare game was Nuts & Bolt and that was barely! How the hell do you kill a creative studio like that? Kinect sports 1 & 2 :( I want some Banjo :(Dr-Brilliant
You have no proof they aren't making any games. Also if Sony owned Rare they would have no advertising support. Rare made almost no money at all on their projects and they were just coming from failure after the Gamecube. Kinect made them money. So just wait until next gen, especially since there are not that many people at the new Rare studios as Rare split before MS owned them.

At least 'SONY wouldn't force them to create garbage that no one wants -___-
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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

rare is just a brand, it makes little difference whether they get utilized or not.

if the people that were the backbone of rare are not there any longer i see little use in handing over the franchises if they are only going to get butchered.

Hoznary

Yeah it is now! But how can you just r@pe the creativity out of a team o.o?

they weren't fired, they quit. who raped who here?

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#14 Hoznary
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[QUOTE="Hoznary"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

rare is just a brand, it makes little difference whether they get utilized or not.

if the people that were the backbone of rare are not there any longer i see little use in handing over the franchises if they are only going to get butchered.

Riverwolf007

Yeah it is now! But how can you just r@pe the creativity out of a team o.o?

they weren't fired, they quit. who raped who here?

M$ raped Rare... Well not in the beginning tbh, Viva la piñata, Kameo, Banjo where great. But after Kinect ....
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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="Hoznary"] Yeah it is now! But how can you just r@pe the creativity out of a team o.o?Hoznary

they weren't fired, they quit. who raped who here?

M$ raped Rare... Well not in the beginning tbh, Viva la piñata, Kameo, Banjo where great. But after Kinect ....

lol, right.

ms paid 375 million for rare and then the talent packed up and left.

once again i have to ask, who raped who?

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[QUOTE="Dr-Brilliant"][QUOTE="Hoznary"]I mean we would have Kameo 2 (Did not enjoy first but many did), Banjo trio & more perfect dark games and a lot more creative games! Hell if SONY bought Rare we would have awesome new games! The last good Rare game was Nuts & Bolt and that was barely! How the hell do you kill a creative studio like that? Kinect sports 1 & 2 :( I want some Banjo :(Hoznary
You have no proof they aren't making any games. Also if Sony owned Rare they would have no advertising support. Rare made almost no money at all on their projects and they were just coming from failure after the Gamecube. Kinect made them money. So just wait until next gen, especially since there are not that many people at the new Rare studios as Rare split before MS owned them.

At least 'SONY wouldn't force them to create garbage that no one wants -___-

There is no "forced" they FAILED twice before and during, it was either Kinect, which ended up working, or death. Which would have happened if kinect backfired.
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[QUOTE="Hoznary"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]they weren't fired, they quit. who raped who here?

Riverwolf007

M$ raped Rare... Well not in the beginning tbh, Viva la piñata, Kameo, Banjo where great. But after Kinect ....

lol, right.

ms paid 375 million for rare and then the talent packed up and left.

once again i have to ask, who raped who?

The founders aren't even making games anymore if I remember correctly. MS zapped all the fun out of them.

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#18 Hoznary
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[QUOTE="Dr-Brilliant"][QUOTE="Hoznary"][QUOTE="Dr-Brilliant"] You have no proof they aren't making any games. Also if Sony owned Rare they would have no advertising support. Rare made almost no money at all on their projects and they were just coming from failure after the Gamecube. Kinect made them money. So just wait until next gen, especially since there are not that many people at the new Rare studios as Rare split before MS owned them.

At least 'SONY wouldn't force them to create garbage that no one wants -___-

There is no "forced" they FAILED twice before and during, it was either Kinect, which ended up working, or death. Which would have happened if kinect backfired.

Well... Then if MS never bought them then they would have made Wii games and would have made more money that way :)
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Because rare sucks, all the good devolopers left for free radical

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#20 Riverwolf007
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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="Hoznary"] M$ raped Rare... Well not in the beginning tbh, Viva la piñata, Kameo, Banjo where great. But after Kinect .... spinecaton

lol, right.

ms paid 375 million for rare and then the talent packed up and left.

once again i have to ask, who raped who?

The founders aren't even making games anymore if I remember correctly. MS zapped all the fun out of them.

:lol:

who would be making games after that payday?

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#21 spinecaton
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Because rare sucks, all the good devolopers left for free radical

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And now they are part of Crytek...

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#22 Hoznary
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[QUOTE="Pikachu69er"]

Because rare sucks, all the good devolopers left for free radical

spinecaton

And now they are part of Crytek...

Woop-dee-doo :( damn
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#23 PSP107
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Hasn't been 10 years since the buyout?
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#24 mitu123
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Hasn't been 10 years since the buyout?PSP107
In a few months it will be.
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It's an old M$ tactic they use since they exist. They buy off studios and small companies to destroy competition. When they buy a studio their intention is not to develop or invest in it but to buy their IPs away from the market and in that way have less competition for them to control the market. Another reason why M$ is a harmful company for a market. Too bad consumers are not aware of that and they support them.
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It's an old M$ tactic they use since they exist. They buy off studios and small companies to destroy competition. When they buy a studio their intention is not to develop or invest in it but to buy their IPs away from the market and in that way have less competition for them to control the market. Another reason why M$ is a harmful company for a market. Too bad consumers are not aware of that and they support them.kuraimen
also they use the profits to ship truckloads of puppies to bill gates private skeet shooting ranges.

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I agree completely. Where's banjo kazooie 4? Where's perfect dark 3? There's been a lack of new titles, where's rare when they've been known for innovation in the past?

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#29 Blake135
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Wish Nintendo bought them some of the best games I ever played were Rare games on the N64. Hate big companies buying small developers Alot just buy to stop competition or run them into the ground to make average Casual crap.
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#30 campzor
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all those ips rare has...and none are getting used... pathetic
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#31 mitu123
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all those ips rare has...and none are getting used... patheticcampzor
Killer Instinct, Perfect Dark and Conker needs to come back!

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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]It's an old M$ tactic they use since they exist. They buy off studios and small companies to destroy competition. When they buy a studio their intention is not to develop or invest in it but to buy their IPs away from the market and in that way have less competition for them to control the market. Another reason why M$ is a harmful company for a market. Too bad consumers are not aware of that and they support them.Riverwolf007

also they use the profits to ship truckloads of puppies to bill gates private skeet shooting ranges.

He doesn't shoot them he eats them alive.

But in all seriousness, anybody who knows about computer history can attest that that's how M$ works. They haven't earned their reputation for nothing.

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There's a reason Nintendo let Rare go...
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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]It's an old M$ tactic they use since they exist. They buy off studios and small companies to destroy competition. When they buy a studio their intention is not to develop or invest in it but to buy their IPs away from the market and in that way have less competition for them to control the market. Another reason why M$ is a harmful company for a market. Too bad consumers are not aware of that and they support them.kuraimen

also they use the profits to ship truckloads of puppies to bill gates private skeet shooting ranges.

He doesn't shoot them he eats them alive. But in all seriousness, anybody who knows about computer history can attest that that's how M$ works. Their haven't earned their reputation for nothing.

so? nobodys hands are clean.

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#35 Blake135
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]also they use the profits to ship truckloads of puppies to bill gates private skeet shooting ranges.

Riverwolf007

He doesn't shoot them he eats them alive. But in all seriousness, anybody who knows about computer history can attest that that's how M$ works. Their haven't earned their reputation for nothing.

so? nobodys hands are clean.

Right nobody is but in "this" market MS is the most cutthroat compared to Sony and Nintendo, least they put the IPs they have to good use.
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#36 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]also they use the profits to ship truckloads of puppies to bill gates private skeet shooting ranges.

Riverwolf007

He doesn't shoot them he eats them alive. But in all seriousness, anybody who knows about computer history can attest that that's how M$ works. Their haven't earned their reputation for nothing.

so? nobodys hands are clean.

Some hands are cleaner than others. For example most people will agree that CD Project or Double Fine have cleaner hands than Activision or EA. A conscious gamer will support with their wallet the companies that represent a better industry in the long wrong. But many people don't really care so it's easy for certain companies to take over. The ironic thing is that many of those same people complain about what the industry is turning to when it's too late.
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#38 nini200
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Simple, they bought them so they couldn't make more awesome games on Nintendo consoles. Ever since they been with M$, their games have been Meh
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#39 PSP107
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There's a reason Nintendo let Rare go...-Renegade
please shae
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#40 Chuubby
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They are probably working on a Banjo Kinect game as we speak :D

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Simple, they bought them so they couldn't make more awesome games on Nintendo consoles. Ever since they been with M$, their games have been Mehnini200

False.

I'd argue that the two Viva Pinata games (the actual ones, not that party spin off thing) are actually two of the very best games on the console.

Well, the first is on PC too, but TIP is 360 exclusive and leagues better. Only reason I miss not currently owning the console, tbh.

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#42 ebrezzy1
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Its not the same Rare as the Rare in Nintendo days

they all left

Rare does kinect games and helps with xbox live (avatars n items)

Rare is working on Xbox live for the xbox 720 unless they just keeping it the same which i doubt that

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The Xbox brand has hurt gaming more than helped it. Thats why we have nothing but shooters and more casual crap. Sony is the only one left still creating new IPs for core us gamers (Beyond, Last of Us, Journy, etc). I wish Sega was still in the console race instead of this usless multimedia hub called Xbox 360..

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#44 mitu123
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The Xbox brand has hurt gaming more than helped it. Thats why we have nothing but shooters and more casual crap. Sony is the only one left still creating new IPs for core us gamers (Beyond, Last of Us, Journy, etc). I wish Sega was still in the console race instead of this usless multimedia hub called Xbox 360..

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I agree with ya!

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Nintendo should buy back the Banjo-Kazooie IP and make a proper sequel.

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[QUOTE="nini200"]Simple, they bought them so they couldn't make more awesome games on Nintendo consoles. Ever since they been with M$, their games have been MehUXO13

False.

I'd argue that the two Viva Pinata games (the actual ones, not that party spin off thing) are actually two of the very best games on the console.

Well, the first is on PC too, but TIP is 360 exclusive and leagues better. Only reason I miss not currently owning the console, tbh.

This.

And I wholeheartedly agree that either sony (preferebly) or nintendo should buy them back (viva pinata with extra Wii U gamepad features anyone?) it's either that or MS needs to actually start using them for something decent, alas, these days the sequels you want never get made and the IP's you don;t want come back year after year....

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#47 LegatoSkyheart
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Nintendo and Sony should just Buy Rare's old IPs.

They ain't doing anything with Conker, Killer Instinct, Perfect Dark, or Banjo Kazooie anymore.

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#48 mitu123
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Nintendo and Sony should just Buy Rare's old IPs.

They ain't doing anything with Conker, Killer Instinct, Perfect Dark, or Banjo Kazooie anymore.

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So true, it's crazy how they just sit there and do nothing, new adventures need to be had with them.
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#49 djshowstopper87
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Is funny that a company called Rare hasn't made a good game since the 90's and 2000 ( goldeneye 64, Perfect Dark) lol.
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#50 waltefmoney
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To annoy people obviously. They're buying Sony too, and canning the PlayStation 4. Why? Why not?