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#1 rofflecopter_
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and sony been working on it for over 2 years, what is wrong with them?

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#2 urdead18
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Gosh darnit, don't you just HATE it when companies give you a cool FREE and OPTIONAL program?UGH, it's disgusting.
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Gosh darnit, don't you just HATE it when companies give you a cool FREE and OPTIONAL program?UGH, it's disgusting.urdead18
Gosh darnit, dont you hate whenthey also hype it to be the best thing since sliced bread and it fails hard
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Huh ? I thought it was doing pretty well for a beta.
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Gosh darnit, don't you just HATE it when companies give you a cool FREE and OPTIONAL program?UGH, it's disgusting.urdead18
That's the problem right there. Where's teh cool?
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[QUOTE="urdead18"]Gosh darnit, don't you just HATE it when companies give you a cool FREE and OPTIONAL program?UGH, it's disgusting.heretrix
That's the problem right there. Where's teh cool?

It's got a crap load of customization options, bowling, pool, movie theatre, difference game spaces, treasure hunts, etc. I'm not saying it is awesome, but it's FREE. YOU CAN JUST IGNORE IT. If you want it, just click it. It's that easy. It's not some mandatory substitute for the XMB, it's just an additional program, I know alot of people that love it just so they can meet new people/chat and play bowling with friends. FOR FREE.
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Huh ? I thought it was doing pretty well for a beta. glenn2709
you know that it already had a beta...and now it is time to step up
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Gosh darnit, don't you just HATE it when companies give you a cool FREE and OPTIONAL program?UGH, it's disgusting.urdead18
Just because something is free does not make it good? Also not pure free since it is microtransactioned out the ying yang with charging for fake game pants, fake game chairs, fake game clubs, and so on. Also read the reviews from any critic IGN, Giant Bomb or whatever and cool is not the right adjective to use more like dull or pointless.
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#9 SpruceCaboose
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Have to say, I have yet to go on to Home. Just have no desire at all to do so.
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[QUOTE="urdead18"]Gosh darnit, don't you just HATE it when companies give you a cool FREE and OPTIONAL program?UGH, it's disgusting.rybe1025
Just because something is free does not make it good? Also not pure free since it is microtransactioned out the ying yang with charging for fake game pants, fake game chairs, fake game clubs, and so on. Also read the reviews from any critic IGN, Giant Bomb or whatever and cool is not the right adjective to use more like dull or pointless.

Since when do you HAVE to buy clothes or w/e, it's all optional, if you hate it so much, ignore it, it's not like when they released Home is hurt all Ps3 users, it benefited some, and had zero effect on others. I never use it, but that doesn't mean somebody else won't.
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#11 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="urdead18"] Since when do you HAVE to buy clothes or w/e, it's all optional, if you hate it so much, ignore it, it's not like when they released Home is hurt all Ps3 users, it benefited some, and had zero effect on others. I never use it, but that doesn't mean somebody else won't.

What about the games that were axed to focus on Home? What about the money Sony spent on Home? That affected people who don't care about Home, did it not?
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[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="urdead18"]Gosh darnit, don't you just HATE it when companies give you a cool FREE and OPTIONAL program?UGH, it's disgusting.urdead18
That's the problem right there. Where's teh cool?

but it's FREE. YOU CAN JUST IGNORE IT.

That's exactly what I'm doing. At least until EA drops some poker tables into that bad boy. I've already suggested a casino space. Now THAT would be cool. The "activities" they have in there now are lame. And if I want to wait on a bowling lane, I just go to a real bowling alley. At least I know the girls are real.

For the most part.

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#13 heretrix
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Have to say, I have yet to go on to Home. Just have no desire at all to do so.SpruceCaboose

Spruce, You should give it a whirl. If only to see how absolutely lame it is at the moment. As people are saying here, it is free, but you have to see for yourself what a mess it is.

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[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="urdead18"]Gosh darnit, don't you just HATE it when companies give you a cool FREE and OPTIONAL program?UGH, it's disgusting.urdead18
Just because something is free does not make it good? Also not pure free since it is microtransactioned out the ying yang with charging for fake game pants, fake game chairs, fake game clubs, and so on. Also read the reviews from any critic IGN, Giant Bomb or whatever and cool is not the right adjective to use more like dull or pointless.

Since when do you HAVE to buy clothes or w/e, it's all optional, if you hate it so much, ignore it, it's not like when they released Home is hurt all Ps3 users, it benefited some, and had zero effect on others. I never use it, but that doesn't mean somebody else won't.

sony defenders crack me up
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[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="urdead18"]Gosh darnit, don't you just HATE it when companies give you a cool FREE and OPTIONAL program?UGH, it's disgusting.urdead18
Just because something is free does not make it good? Also not pure free since it is microtransactioned out the ying yang with charging for fake game pants, fake game chairs, fake game clubs, and so on. Also read the reviews from any critic IGN, Giant Bomb or whatever and cool is not the right adjective to use more like dull or pointless.

Since when do you HAVE to buy clothes or w/e, it's all optional, if you hate it so much, ignore it, it's not like when they released Home is hurt all Ps3 users, it benefited some, and had zero effect on others. I never use it, but that doesn't mean somebody else won't.

Hour a victory for the 360 scored a 2.0. The game has not hurt the 360 at all and I am sure there are people that do enjoy the game but that does not make it a good game. Same thing with Home. Sure some may enjoy it and it may not cripple the PS3 but that does not make it good. Just face it some things stink. If something stinks on your console of choice you are not forced to defend it you can just admit it or just ignore it.
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yeah it sucks, but hey its free and its got potential.
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Since when do you HAVE to buy clothes or w/e, it's all optional, if you hate it so much, ignore it, it's not like when they released Home is hurt all Ps3 users, it benefited some, and had zero effect on others. I never use it, but that doesn't mean somebody else won't. urdead18

Well the PS3 fanboys had been raging on the optional stuff that cost money on Xbox Live (such as themes, gamerpics, ect), at least with the 360 Avatar they are giving the gamer more free clothes (until the rumored Avatar market place opened up). Also Home had a ton of hype behind it, so while Home may be good for some PS3 users, it isn't for alot of the others.

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#18 v-vega75
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]Have to say, I have yet to go on to Home. Just have no desire at all to do so.

i have. trust me. your not missing anything inportant.
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#19 johnlennon28
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the pool / billiard game is fun, now if they would only add: a basketball court paintball wargame just more activities, pls sony
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#20 urdead18
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[QUOTE="urdead18"][QUOTE="rybe1025"]Just because something is free does not make it good? Also not pure free since it is microtransactioned out the ying yang with charging for fake game pants, fake game chairs, fake game clubs, and so on. Also read the reviews from any critic IGN, Giant Bomb or whatever and cool is not the right adjective to use more like dull or pointless. rybe1025
Since when do you HAVE to buy clothes or w/e, it's all optional, if you hate it so much, ignore it, it's not like when they released Home is hurt all Ps3 users, it benefited some, and had zero effect on others. I never use it, but that doesn't mean somebody else won't.

Hour a victory for the 360 scored a 2.0. The game has not hurt the 360 at all and I am sure there are people that do enjoy the game but that does not make it a good game. Same thing with Home. Sure some may enjoy it and it may not cripple the PS3 but that does not make it good. Just face it some things stink. If something stinks on your console of choice you are not forced to defend it you can just admit it or just ignore it.

Only problem is, you have to pay to play that game, this is free. And like the guy above me said, it's got good potential. Yeah, it does suck right now, IMO, but a lot of people like it, so good for them, doesn't affect me at all.
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[QUOTE="urdead18"] Since when do you HAVE to buy clothes or w/e, it's all optional, if you hate it so much, ignore it, it's not like when they released Home is hurt all Ps3 users, it benefited some, and had zero effect on others. I never use it, but that doesn't mean somebody else won't. Chaos_HL21

Well the PS3 fanboys had been raging on the optional stuff that cost money on Xbox Live (such as themes, gamerpics, ect), at least with the 360 Avatar they are giving the gamer more free clothes (until the rumored Avatar market place opened up). Also Home had a ton of hype behind it, so while Home may be good for some PS3 users, it isn't for alot of the others.

Yeah, it's amazing how things change. When MS charged you for themes, it's a ripoff. When Sony charges you for virtual doll clothing and virtual doll house accessories, it's a success story.
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#22 Gl0ry_L0rd
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Kind of funny how people are critizing Sony when nothing similar has come out on the 360/Wii. I'd like to see Microsoft or Nintendo try something better.
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[QUOTE="urdead18"] Since when do you HAVE to buy clothes or w/e, it's all optional, if you hate it so much, ignore it, it's not like when they released Home is hurt all Ps3 users, it benefited some, and had zero effect on others. I never use it, but that doesn't mean somebody else won't. Chaos_HL21

Well the PS3 fanboys had been raging on the optional stuff that cost money on Xbox Live (such as themes, gamerpics, ect), at least with the 360 Avatar they are giving the gamer more free clothes (until the rumored Avatar market place opened up). Also Home had a ton of hype behind it, so while Home may be good for some PS3 users, it isn't for alot of the others.

Who cares about optional things? There are some themes that cost money on Playstation store as well, it's just that PSN in general is free, that's why I think Ps3 fanboys are raging about that stuff, because you're already paying to use Live.
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[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="urdead18"]Gosh darnit, don't you just HATE it when companies give you a cool FREE and OPTIONAL program?UGH, it's disgusting.urdead18
Just because something is free does not make it good? Also not pure free since it is microtransactioned out the ying yang with charging for fake game pants, fake game chairs, fake game clubs, and so on. Also read the reviews from any critic IGN, Giant Bomb or whatever and cool is not the right adjective to use more like dull or pointless.

Since when do you HAVE to buy clothes or w/e, it's all optional, if you hate it so much, ignore it, it's not like when they released Home is hurt all Ps3 users, it benefited some, and had zero effect on others. I never use it, but that doesn't mean somebody else won't.

..so if you never use it, what's the point of campaigning for it then.. :| It's one thing to brag about a free product, but it's an entirely different thing to brag about a free product that you don't even use.. :|
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I dunno it seems interesting. I swear I've seen a few articles around that said sony might be getting some developers onboard to offer old old arcade classics. They already have some levels from games offered as a place to get together; I've seen some farcry 2 level and some uncharted level personally. Just maps not the game itself of course. Some bar from farcry 2 is available in sony home with arcade games and what not. They may want to make the stuff like arcades and what not instanced.

I'm a pc gamer so I don't really care what they do for consoles, however if I see something interesting I'll give them a chance.

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Yeah, it's amazing how things change. When MS charged you for themes, it's a ripoff. When Sony charges you for virtual doll clothing and virtual doll house accessories, it's a success story.heretrix

When you buy these clothings, house accesossories, etc. it ENHANCES the gameplay. Similar to a map pack.

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I think its ok, it depends how you use it. If you use it to talk to people and stuff like that, its alright. People who try to use it like a game will hate it.
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#28 carljohnson3456
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At this point, it's a "neat" feature. It'll evolve over time... who knows, maybe eventually it'll become worth using! I expect it to pull a PSN and get better with updates over time.
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]Yeah, it's amazing how things change. When MS charged you for themes, it's a ripoff. When Sony charges you for virtual doll clothing and virtual doll house accessories, it's a success story.Gl0ry_L0rd

When you buy these clothings, house accesossories, etc. it ENHANCES the gameplay. Similar to a map pack.

Not really man... comparing a map pack to an avatar's t-shirt is a terrible comparison. A better comparison is comparing a t-shirt to horse armor... :?
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[QUOTE="urdead18"][QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="urdead18"] Since when do you HAVE to buy clothes or w/e, it's all optional, if you hate it so much, ignore it, it's not like when they released Home is hurt all Ps3 users, it benefited some, and had zero effect on others. I never use it, but that doesn't mean somebody else won't.

Hour a victory for the 360 scored a 2.0. The game has not hurt the 360 at all and I am sure there are people that do enjoy the game but that does not make it a good game. Same thing with Home. Sure some may enjoy it and it may not cripple the PS3 but that does not make it good. Just face it some things stink. If something stinks on your console of choice you are not forced to defend it you can just admit it or just ignore it.

Only problem is, you have to pay to play that game, this is free. And like the guy above me said, it's got good potential. Yeah, it does suck right now, IMO, but a lot of people like it, so good for them, doesn't affect me at all.

Why are you defending something you even agree sucks? Also doesn't it get tiring saying THA POTENTIAL for so much PS3 stuff.. At least descibe this potential you are talking about. What else has Sony announced they are going to do? What major things have they announced they are working on to make it not suck which you even agreed Home does right now. As far as people liking something. The worst products in the world you can find someone that likes it but that does not make it a good product.
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[QUOTE="urdead18"] Only problem is, you have to pay to play that game, this is free. And like the guy above me said, it's got good potential. Yeah, it does suck right now, IMO, but a lot of people like it, so good for them, doesn't affect me at all.

But it did affect you, free or not. It was not free to build, so those resources came from somewhere. Like it or not, Home cost us gamers something. TNSTAAFL
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[QUOTE="Gl0ry_L0rd"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]Yeah, it's amazing how things change. When MS charged you for themes, it's a ripoff. When Sony charges you for virtual doll clothing and virtual doll house accessories, it's a success story.carljohnson3456

When you buy these clothings, house accesossories, etc. it ENHANCES the gameplay. Similar to a map pack.

Not really man... comparing a map pack to an avatar's t-shirt is a terrible comparison. A better comparison is comparing a t-shirt to horse armor... :?

You have to admit though, it does make the gameplay better.

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#33 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]Yeah, it's amazing how things change. When MS charged you for themes, it's a ripoff. When Sony charges you for virtual doll clothing and virtual doll house accessories, it's a success story.Gl0ry_L0rd

When you buy these clothings, house accesossories, etc. it ENHANCES the gameplay. Similar to a map pack.

You are still doing the same lame things. It enhances nothing.
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You have to admit though, it does make the gameplay better.

Gl0ry_L0rd
How does a skin make the gameplay better?
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Because people don't know how to use home :| Everyone still treats it as a game rather than a service. Though I do admit they really need more games to gamelaunch
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[QUOTE="evlnoodle"]"Why did Sony EPIC fail so bad with Playstation HOME?" Because you touch yourself at night..... but seriously stop crying over it, its a free application its not a mandatory upgrade like the NXE if it was that bad no one would use it.

I am still trying to figure out though how just because something is free is mysteriously becomes great or no big deal. Breaking news....free things have the ability to stink also. Home was hyped a HUGE about so yes it will have threads made about it. If it was great PS3 users would make the threads but since it is not the other system users are going to make the threads.
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#38 Gl0ry_L0rd
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[QUOTE="Gl0ry_L0rd"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]Yeah, it's amazing how things change. When MS charged you for themes, it's a ripoff. When Sony charges you for virtual doll clothing and virtual doll house accessories, it's a success story.heretrix

When you buy these clothings, house accesossories, etc. it ENHANCES the gameplay. Similar to a map pack.

You are still doing the same lame things. It enhances nothing.

You can get a new house, furniture, create a club, etc. It just makes the game better.

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"Why did Sony EPIC fail so bad with Playstation HOME?" Because you touch yourself at night..... but seriously stop crying over it, its a free application its not a mandatory upgrade like the NXE if it was that bad no one would use it.evlnoodle
nxe is amazing though
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#40 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="Gl0ry_L0rd"]

When you buy these clothings, house accesossories, etc. it ENHANCES the gameplay. Similar to a map pack.

Gl0ry_L0rd

You are still doing the same lame things. It enhances nothing.

You can get a new house, furniture, create a club, etc. It just makes the game better.

It isn't a game.And if I have to pay money for any of that stuff, it certainly isn't making my experience any better.
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#41 gsx1100
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and sony been working on it for over 2 years, what is wrong with them?

rofflecopter_

Its only just come out hasn't it?And I think its still in the beta,give it a chance it looks like its got potential.

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#42 Gl0ry_L0rd
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if I have to pay money for any of that stuff, it certainly isn't making my experience any better.heretrix

It may not be make your experience better, but it might to other people.

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#43 rofflecopter_
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[QUOTE="gsx1100"][QUOTE="rofflecopter_"]

and sony been working on it for over 2 years, what is wrong with them?

Its only just come out hasn't it?And I think its still in the beta,give it a chance it looks like its got potential.

it had a beta a while ago also, it is very lackluster right now,only diehard sony fanboys would say otherwise
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#44 beast667
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Home is so boring. I'd rather pay $60 for a good game than use Home for free.
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#45 heretrix
Member since 2004 • 37881 Posts
[QUOTE="heretrix"]if I have to pay money for any of that stuff, it certainly isn't making my experience any better.Gl0ry_L0rd

It may not be make your experience better, but it might to other people.

That's the funny thing about MY opinion. It's mine.
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#46 u8muhrice
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TC, the only thing that FAILS is your LOGIC

You state that Sony has an EPIC FAIL with HOME, but you never STATE what its FAILS at.

FUN? PROFITS? USERS?

Well Home is a FREE program that many USERS do log in to. It is FUN, but its not a GAME. Its merely a networking program

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#47 DanteSuikoden
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You act like it was made to sell systems but it wasn't. It was made basically for making money for Sony from advertisement which it is doing. Home is making it's purpose to Sony so no, it doesn't fail.
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#48 rofflecopter_
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You act like it was made to sell systems but it wasn't. It was made basically for making money for Sony from advertisement which it is doing. Home is making it's purpose to Sony so no, it doesn't fail.DanteSuikoden
you must have missed the hype then
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#49 Floppy_Jim
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As long as people keep buying virtual crap and Sony use the money they make from said virtual crap to improve PSN, I'll consider it a success. Although I haven't really used it much.
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#50 DanteSuikoden
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[QUOTE="DanteSuikoden"]You act like it was made to sell systems but it wasn't. It was made basically for making money for Sony from advertisement which it is doing. Home is making it's purpose to Sony so no, it doesn't fail.rofflecopter_
you must have missed the hype then

If you mean the hype from Sony, it was known from the very beginning that they made it to make money from advertisements. Read Mr. Floppy's post if you still don't understand