Why do console gamers talk about graphics so much?

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#1 UnrealGunner
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All I hear from some of these console gamers is talk about graphics like OMG QUANTUM BREAK IS 720p ON THE XBOX ONE! and arguing over what looks better Uncharted 4 or Quantum Break. I don't understand why they claim to care about graphics so much if you care about graphics so much then why game on a console? Everyone should know by now that PC has the superior graphics anyway so these arguments don't make any sense to me. Who even buys a console for graphics? I know some people on this forum do this and I want to hear from them because if you're gaming on a console graphics should not be the reason why.

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#2 SecretPolice
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Don't generalize like that, it's not true. It's one faction here that's mainly the culprits and most know precisely which one that is. lol :P

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#3 Legend002
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720p vs 1080p is serious business especially when both console are at the same price.

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#4 nethernova
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Why do you talk about consoles so much?

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#5 skektek
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ALL gamers talk about graphics. It has been that way since Pong was released.

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#6 Articuno76
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It's the differentiating factor between two similar propositions.

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#7  Edited By iandizion713
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Graphics are gimmicks. People are easily fooled.

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#8 Heil68
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Well when your new multiple plat is stuck at 720p, there are real feelings being hurt.

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#9 RedentSC
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yep, every gamer from every "creed" talk about graphical fidelity and compare it to other platform. THis is not a console specific issue. In fact, the main culprits of this kind of conversation are hermits. Mainly because thats all they have over the console world... shiney pixels

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#10 UnrealGunner
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@SecretPolice said:

Don't generalize like that, it's not true. It's one faction here that's mainly the culprits and most know precisely which one that is. lol :P

I said some not all some I'm not generalizing it and I don't know what faction you are talking about because I see Xbox and PS gamers both doing it

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#11 thehig1
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I've seen a lem and a cow arguing over graphics on this forum, then when a hermit says something like "neither are as good as PC" they then either say PC doesnt count, or they its about the games and the console experience not the graphics.

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#12  Edited By Dibdibdobdobo
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The only thing we can argue about is Art 5tyle and not graphics.

Best looking game. LoZ : WW.

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#13 Howmakewood
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@Heil68 said:

Well when your new multiple plat is stuck at 720p, there are real feelings being hurt.

Well this isn't totally correct, the fact that this game in question is indeed a multiplatform release also liberates it from being stuck at sub 1080p!

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#14 Howmakewood
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@RedentSC said:

yep, every gamer from every "creed" talk about graphical fidelity and compare it to other platform. THis is not a console specific issue. In fact, the main culprits of this kind of conversation are hermits. Mainly because thats all they have over the console world... shiney pixels

If you put aside freedom of choice in input devices, modding,superior BC, free online among other things then ye it's only pixels

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#15 Sweetbackhair
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It's always been like that. This is system wars after all, little fun bashing other systems doesn't hurt. :)

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#16 Pedro
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Well its mainly PS4 gamers because they are still trying to justify their purchase.

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#17 Kruiz_Bathory
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It's fun to read them threads so I say let them.

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#18 deactivated-60cd6c3d31f6d
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Why are hermits always crying about consoles and begging for console scraps?

@Pedro said:

Well its mainly PS4 gamers because they are still trying to justify their purchase.

^ Damage control post.

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#19 DarkrecoN
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Last gen we never had this crap with resolution but this gen because ps4 pushing higher resolution we getting it rammed down our throats. I've not bought a game for its resolution

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#20 deactivated-60cd6c3d31f6d
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Last gen we never had this crap with resolution but this gen because ps4 pushing higher resolution we getting it rammed down our throats. I've not bought a game for its resolution

Nice revisionist history. Why are you lying?

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#21 UnrealGunner
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@deeph said:

Why are hermits always crying about consoles and begging for console scraps?

Who is begging for console scraps when they don't even have any games lol

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#22  Edited By deactivated-60cd6c3d31f6d
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@unrealgunner said:
@deeph said:

Why are hermits always crying about consoles and begging for console scraps?

Who is begging for console scraps when they don't even have any games lol

Hermits and wannabe hermits like you, lol. Dont try to deny it. You guys are beggars through and through, always desiring them delicious console scraps.

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@howmakewood said:
@Heil68 said:

Well when your new multiple plat is stuck at 720p, there are real feelings being hurt.

Well this isn't totally correct, the fact that this game in question is indeed a multiplatform release also liberates it from being stuck at sub 1080p!

Well the X1 release of game..sad times :(

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My younger brother used to be a console (Xbox) fan. While I enjoyed playing a handful of games (handful means 5: Gears of War, Gears of War 2, Halo, Halo 2 and Halo 3) with him, I preferred my PC gaming.

When Gears of War released on the PC - I picked up a copy because I did enjoy the game on Xbox 360. I didn't do the multiplayer, so it was strictly the single player game experience I was going for. Plus there was an extra level over the console version.

After having to jump through hoops and changing config file data, I got the game running smooth on my computer and the graphics were so much better over what the console could do. I told my brother this and he said there was no way and that the console version looks really good and you couldn't improve upon them.

I told him when he comes up to visit in a few weeks to bring his 360 and GoW. When he got here, we hooked up the 360 to my 1080p TV. We played through the first level and I told him to keep an eye on a few spots and remember how they looked.

I then loaded up GoW on my computer and ran things across medium settings - he played through the first level and said things pretty much look the same. He didn't know I had the game on medium settings. So I cranked up all the settings to high and he immediately saw the difference and was blown away by no (or very little) jaggies and how things looked so much crisper/cleaner. This was the turning point for him - he slowly started to fade away from consoles and got into PC gaming.

I started him out with old hardware that he used for years and about 3 months ago he got pretty much a new build. He certainly doesn't have a high-end PC by any means by today's standards, but he's got a decent build that he can max most games on his 1440x900 monitor. i5-4590, 8GB RAM, 250GB SSD & 2TB HDD and he's using my old GTX 570 while he saves up for when Pascal comes out.

Consoles have okay graphics. PC have great graphics. If you're a graphics whore, play on the PC. If you graphics don't mean much to you, play the games you like and whatever system you like and ignore all the other retards that argue about stupid shit.

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#25 UnrealGunner
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@deeph said:

Hermits and wannabe hermits like you, lol. Dont try to deny it. You guys are beggars through and through, always desiring them delicious console scraps.

Why would I want console games I can't even get through the PC games I have you console peasants are thirsty for games because you don't have any

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@unrealgunner said:
@deeph said:

Hermits and wannabe hermits like you, lol. Dont try to deny it. You guys are beggars through and through, always desiring them delicious console scraps.

Why would I want console games I can't even get through the PC games I have you console peasants are thirsty for games because you don't have any

Stop replying to me and go sign some petitions, you beggar.

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#27  Edited By zeeshanhaider
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Because you always envy what you don't/can't have and consoles will never get good graphics. It's the insecurity talking.

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#28 UnrealGunner
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@deeph said:

Stop replying to me and go sign some petitions, you beggar.

I don't need a petition but I know you do because you're stupid enough to pay and subscribe to an online service that's inferior to what is free on the PC. #BetterPSN

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#29 The-A-Baum
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Something I do miss about last Gen is we never talked about this crap. Or very rarely.

I think this Gen is different because Sony has used this rather than games the main selling feature. And the media is running away with it.

Please don't start another list war, I am done with this Console war BS.

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@thehig1: I've seen a lem and a cow arguing over graphics on this forum, then when a hermit says something like "neither are as good as PC" they then either say PC doesnt count, or they its about the games and the console experience not the graphics"

Truth. Well said.

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#31 NFJSupreme
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just remember one thing. this place is irrelevant.

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#32 RedentSC
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@howmakewood said:
@RedentSC said:

yep, every gamer from every "creed" talk about graphical fidelity and compare it to other platform. THis is not a console specific issue. In fact, the main culprits of this kind of conversation are hermits. Mainly because thats all they have over the console world... shiney pixels

If you put aside freedom of choice in input devices, modding,superior BC, free online among other things then ye it's only pixels

freedom of choice in input devices - USB keyboard on consoles have been a standard for many years (for games that allow it) which is the same restrictions as PC games

modding - Coming to consoles very soon

superior BC - Again, when you say superior you mean just running old games? sure i can do that on my old consoles too.

free online among other things - Yeah FTP games are online and do not require PS+ (not sure above xbone but that's a joke anyway)

so yes ... then ye it's only pixels, you are indeed correct

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#33 Ten_Pints
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@unrealgunner said:

All I hear from some of these console gamers is talk about graphics like OMG QUANTUM BREAK IS 720p ON THE XBOX ONE! and arguing over what looks better Uncharted 4 or Quantum Break. I don't understand why they claim to care about graphics so much if you care about graphics so much then why game on a console? Everyone should know by now that PC has the superior graphics anyway so these arguments don't make any sense to me. Who even buys a console for graphics? I know some people on this forum do this and I want to hear from them because if you're gaming on a console graphics should not be the reason why.

I know right, why even bother with newer consoles might as well go back to the PS1, that had 3D games and you could potentially make any game you want on that gameplay wise.

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#34  Edited By Howmakewood
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@RedentSC said:
@howmakewood said:
@RedentSC said:

yep, every gamer from every "creed" talk about graphical fidelity and compare it to other platform. THis is not a console specific issue. In fact, the main culprits of this kind of conversation are hermits. Mainly because thats all they have over the console world... shiney pixels

If you put aside freedom of choice in input devices, modding,superior BC, free online among other things then ye it's only pixels

freedom of choice in input devices - USB keyboard on consoles have been a standard for many years (for games that allow it) which is the same restrictions as PC games

modding - Coming to consoles very soon

superior BC - Again, when you say superior you mean just running old games? sure i can do that on my old consoles too.

free online among other things - Yeah FTP games are online and do not require PS+ (not sure above xbone but that's a joke anyway)

so yes ... then ye it's only pixels, you are indeed correct

Okay how many shooter games on console can I play with a mouse? Can I use xbox360 controller on my ps4?

You expect same level of quality and quantity of mods on console? Cute

Superior as you dont have to go fetch your old console from storage(if you still happpen to have it), Ps4 bc? lol, Xbone one at least has some but most games run worse than they did on 360, this is not an issue on PC

Just because you seem blind to the benefits of open platform it doesn't mean they dont exist. But we can go on

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#35 DaVillain  Moderator  Online
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Why do console gamers talk about graphics so much?

Who knows. Better question would be, do you really care about raw graphics?

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#36 UnrealGunner
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@ten_pints said:

I know right, why even bother with newer consoles might as well go back to the PS1, that had 3D games and you could potentially make any game you want on that gameplay wise.

Yeah exactly why even bother with consoles when you can build a gaming rig and have a superior and cheaper gaming experience

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#37 Mr_Huggles_dog
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Don't play stupid.

Graphics matter. Less to some and more to others. It's been this way forever. It's why when the SNES came out ppl were blown away....it's why when the PS2 was released ppl were blown away.

It's more evident now bc there's the Internet and there's a major console that can't handle a resolution that was standard back in 2007.

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#38 clr84651
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Because graphics are important and they prefer gaming on a console. PC has the best graphics, but they don't want to game on PC. You had to know this, but still ask why.

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#39 Bigboi500
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If you are going to generalize like that about console gamers, then you must know the PC gamers here are equally bad about "master race" crap.

Message boards are not a true representation of the gaming populace. (thank god)

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#40 darklight4
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If I want to talk about graphics I'll talk about graphics. Who are you to say otherwise, just because you game on pc does not mean you can dictate what people talk about on this forum.

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#41 deactivated-583c85dc33d18
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I guess it's because graphics are one of the only thing consolers have to argue about. What other perks do the two consoles have over anything else?

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#42 FLOPPAGE_50
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Cows need to validate their purchase, since PC curbstomps both

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#43 dxmcat
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Because gameplay (or lack thereof) and format of these games has been formulaic for many years now. So any discussions about that stuff is redundant.

Graphics is the only thing that really changes / improves.

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#44  Edited By jun_aka_pekto
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Better graphics than stuff like sales numbers. Bean Counter Wars? Yuk. I can see graphics when I play a game. The hell would I want to be thinking about some game selling more than another?

The PC doesn't always have to come into play especially if the discussion is about a game not on the PC.

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#45 Livecommander
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@unrealgunner: go to the park. Better yet go local basketball tournament and ask every player fan why they dont only watch play and try out for nba.

Realize how narrow and dum this thread is.

Name a pc 400 cash that has ps4 specs has.and not a mixed no style multi branded conjuction you pc gamers like to bring up.

Your asking people why do they go to sea world when they could build a boat a find whales all over the sea.

TECNICALLY your right but were not robots so ACTUALLY you dont make that much sense. Pc is the tree Consoles is they branch. You compare them bc ?

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#46 Cloud_imperium
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Desperation. "But but but we don't care about graphics". Yeah right. PC gamers know that they don't have to prove anything, since it gets best graphics every gen, so mostly they talk about games themselves.

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#47 Flyincloud1116
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@Heil68 said:

Well when your new multiple plat is stuck at 720p, there are real feelings being hurt.

It's a multiplat, so what do you expect. If it was an exclusive, it might have been 1080p.

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To justify their purchase. Meanwhile PC gamers already know we have the best graphics and so don't constantly make threads about it.

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#49 Howmakewood
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@flyincloud1116 said:
@Heil68 said:

Well when your new multiple plat is stuck at 720p, there are real feelings being hurt.

It's a multiplat, so what do you expect. If it was an exclusive, it might have been 1080p.

If you actually believe that I feel nothing but sorry for you

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#50  Edited By Flyincloud1116
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@howmakewood said:
@flyincloud1116 said:
@Heil68 said:

Well when your new multiple plat is stuck at 720p, there are real feelings being hurt.

It's a multiplat, so what do you expect. If it was an exclusive, it might have been 1080p.

If you actually believe that I feel nothing but sorry for you

So you are saying that it would have been 720p no matter what.