Why do cows keep bringing up killzones 2 budget.

You dont need a bid budget to make a game of the year A.K.A. Gears of war which costed only 10 million and that sold 4 million copies, so you dont need a huge budget so stop bringing that up everytime in a killzone 2 thread.

but dude 40 million!!!!! omfgwtfbbq if they spend that much its going to be the best gameeverr! even if it flops it will be awsome cus they spent so much money on it!!! its the savior of gaming

/sarcasm

Because that's about the only thing we know about the game? CGI video was fake footage. Besides that there is nothing but a budget. So if you are determined to hype this game you can't use screens, video, history (KZ1 floped)......so the only thing left is the budget they are using. Kind of stupid if you ask me but it'll make great theater if it ends up flopping.darthogre

let me ask you a question, how is a CGI vid fake, no 1 ever said it was gameplay it a CGI FOR GOODNESS SAKES....and there are pic's of it

You dont need a bid budget to make a game of the year A.K.A. Gears of war which costed only 10 million and that sold 4 million copies, so you dont need a huge budget so stop bringing that up everytime in a killzone 2 thread.

xjet039

Apparently, more money automatically means better game.................... just like more players online in a game means better game................... *sigh* ....................... when will they learn .............. *sigh*

[QUOTE="xjet039"]

You dont need a bid budget to make a game of the year A.K.A. Gears of war which costed only 10 million and that sold 4 million copies, so you dont need a huge budget so stop bringing that up everytime in a killzone 2 thread.

RaveRabbid

Apparently, more money automatically means better game.................... just like more players online in a game means better game................... *sigh* ....................... when will they learn .............. *sigh*

cow? learn? never

[QUOTE="darthogre"]Because that's about the only thing we know about the game? CGI video was fake footage. Besides that there is nothing but a budget. So if you are determined to hype this game you can't use screens, video, history (KZ1 floped)......so the only thing left is the budget they are using. Kind of stupid if you ask me but it'll make great theater if it ends up flopping.hi381

let me ask you a question, how is a CGI vid fake, no 1 ever said it was gameplay it a CGI FOR GOODNESS SAKES....and there are pic's of it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRVAVdF8HLc&mode=related&search=

As you was saying? ;)

[QUOTE="darthogre"]Because that's about the only thing we know about the game? CGI video was fake footage. Besides that there is nothing but a budget. So if you are determined to hype this game you can't use screens, video, history (KZ1 floped)......so the only thing left is the budget they are using. Kind of stupid if you ask me but it'll make great theater if it ends up flopping.hi381

let me ask you a question, how is a CGI vid fake, no 1 ever said it was gameplay it a CGI FOR GOODNESS SAKES....and there are pic's of it

sony and the developers said it was in-game a good number of times..untill sony finally gave in and said it was a target render.

[QUOTE="hi381"]

[QUOTE="darthogre"]Because that's about the only thing we know about the game? CGI video was fake footage. Besides that there is nothing but a budget. So if you are determined to hype this game you can't use screens, video, history (KZ1 floped)......so the only thing left is the budget they are using. Kind of stupid if you ask me but it'll make great theater if it ends up flopping.Yellow_Rose

let me ask you a question, how is a CGI vid fake, no 1 ever said it was gameplay it a CGI FOR GOODNESS SAKES....and there are pic's of it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRVAVdF8HLc&mode=related&search=

As you was saying? ;)

nice find :lol:

[QUOTE="darthogre"]Because that's about the only thing we know about the game? CGI video was fake footage. Besides that there is nothing but a budget. So if you are determined to hype this game you can't use screens, video, history (KZ1 floped)......so the only thing left is the budget they are using. Kind of stupid if you ask me but it'll make great theater if it ends up flopping.hi381

let me ask you a question, how is a CGI vid fake, no 1 ever said it was gameplay it a CGI FOR GOODNESS SAKES....and there are pic's of it

Because Sony lead everyone to believe that was real game footage, not some cut scene video. All the cows hyped it as gameplay.

And yes, there is pics of KillZone 2.....of that CGI footage that has been proven to not be actual gameplay lol.

Because there is literally nothing else good about the game other than the budget and the number of developers. Obviously you can't brag about the series history, and the fact they tried to pass CGI off as gameplay isn't too awe-inspiring, but for whatever reason Halo scares the cows so much they resort to hyping anything that will be on the PS3.

Lets look at it this way. When developers know they are getting a big bucks for making Killzone2, they will try their best to make the game better if not the best. Wouldnt you work harder if you are given $100 per hour? i mean wouldnt you give ur best so that your work can get appreciated and maybe, just maybe get more in the future if it was succesful? you guys gotta think proffesional here.

[QUOTE="darthogre"]Because that's about the only thing we know about the game? CGI video was fake footage. Besides that there is nothing but a budget. So if you are determined to hype this game you can't use screens, video, history (KZ1 floped)......so the only thing left is the budget they are using. Kind of stupid if you ask me but it'll make great theater if it ends up flopping.hi381

let me ask you a question, how is a CGI vid fake, no 1 ever said it was gameplay it a CGI FOR GOODNESS SAKES....and there are pic's of it

http://youtube.com/watch?v=VRVAVdF8HLc

A game can be good with lots of money spent on it, can it not?

Lets look at it this way. When developers know they are getting a big bucks for making Killzone2, they will try their best to make the game better if not the best. Wouldnt you work harder if you are given $100 per hour? i mean wouldnt you give ur best so that your work can get appreciated and maybe, just maybe get more in the future if it was succesful? you guys gotta think proffesional here.

def_mode

When has throwing money away *ever* accomplished anything? Yes. Throwing. Money. Away. Sony is desperately trying to make a game to live up to an E3 trailer, literally to the point where, by the time Killzone 2 releases, it won't be impressive anymore. You've already got Crysis coming (please watch any HD footage you can find, not youtube videos, when it comes to discussing graphics), Gears of War is already a visually impressive game, and Haze, UT3, and Orange Box are all on the roster.

But on top of the challenge of making this game live up to the E3 trailer (in order to make it graphically compete with all of the FPS games that have released, or will be releasing, since then), it has to have gameplay that succeeds the best FPS franchises in existance. That is to say, it has to beat Half-Life, Unreal, and Halo in the gameplay department. Holy $#*% - no matter what your development budget, that's a tall order. Now, let's go a step further. Not only does Killzone 2 have to *look* and *play* better than the competition, but it has to offer a better online gameplay experience. So, it's gotta look good, play good, work well online... anything else? Oh, right... and it has to sell PS3s. Y'know, to make up for that huge budget being spent on it.

I don't know about you, but I for one am skeptical. If this game could visually live up to the Killzone trailer, why haven't we seen more of it since then? Why do we literally have no info, and a company spending millions, and employing dozens of staff, scrambling to create some project we've heard nothing about?

I have my doubts, and I'll be extremely skeptical of anything less than a playtest at E3 - no more CGI "footage" of a game that doesn't exist, y'know?

You dont need a bid budget to make a game of the year A.K.A. Gears of war which costed only 10 million and that sold 4 million copies, so you dont need a huge budget so stop bringing that up everytime in a killzone 2 thread.

xjet039

Because that's the only thing we know about it.

"There is one rule for the industrialist and that is: Make the best quality of goods possible at the lowest cost possible, paying the highest wages possible."
Henry Ford

However, as it turns out, the cost is going to be forwarded to game development. I doubt the wages of the employees spiked more than the number of employees. As it turns out again, though, Henry Ford's theory is contrary to yours. He certainly did pretty well back in the day.

Still, the cash should make the game turn out in an interesting way.

If you remember, creating an entire engine from the ground up costs a substantive amount more money than simply using a preexisting engine (UE3), so Gears is a horrible, horrible example of this. We should see new technology, interesting visuals. Should. But nobody knows any better. Wait til E3. And don't hype E3. Don't hype Killzone. Hype or unhype what you see there. Understood? Can everybody agree on that? PLEASE?

[QUOTE="def_mode"]

Lets look at it this way. When developers know they are getting a big bucks for making Killzone2, they will try their best to make the game better if not the best. Wouldnt you work harder if you are given $100 per hour? i mean wouldnt you give ur best so that your work can get appreciated and maybe, just maybe get more in the future if it was succesful? you guys gotta think proffesional here.

subrosian

When has throwing money away *ever* accomplished anything? Yes. Throwing. Money. Away. Sony is desperately trying to make a game to live up to an E3 trailer, literally to the point where, by the time Killzone 2 releases, it won't be impressive anymore. You've already got Crysis coming (please watch any HD footage you can find, not youtube videos, when it comes to discussing graphics), Gears of War is already a visually impressive game, and Haze, UT3, and Orange Box are all on the roster.

But on top of the challenge of making this game live up to the E3 trailer (in order to make it graphically compete with all of the FPS games that have released, or will be releasing, since then), it has to have gameplay that succeeds the best FPS franchises in existance. That is to say, it has to beat Half-Life, Unreal, and Halo in the gameplay department. Holy $#*% - no matter what your development budget, that's a tall order. Now, let's go a step further. Not only does Killzone 2 have to *look* and *play* better than the competition, but it has to offer a better online gameplay experience. So, it's gotta look good, play good, work well online... anything else? Oh, right... and it has to sell PS3s. Y'know, to make up for that huge budget being spent on it.

I don't know about you, but I for one am skeptical. If this game could visually live up to the Killzone trailer, why haven't we seen more of it since then? Why do we literally have no info, and a company spending millions, and employing dozens of staff, scrambling to create some project we've heard nothing about?

I have my doubts, and I'll be extremely skeptical of anything less than a playtest at E3 - no more CGI "footage" of a game that doesn't exist, y'know?

You make some good points.

The money Sony used to make Killzone2, its not all about the game. Its about getting the best developers. I heard its about 120 developers working on the said game. With a 40Million budget, it looks like this devs are not just ordinary devs. they have to spend a lot of money to get the best/skilled devs out there to work on a project. and I am sure these Devs are not just making a game just for the sake of making money, ofcourse they want their creation to be a top notch and to be one of the best.

Money is a big deal. Ken Levine said that Bioshock is what he could have done with SS2 if he had the money.

The more money, the more ideas actually get into the game.

Riddle me this

If a game has a 40 Million dollar plus budget, they have more resources, correct, ok so,

Is this a good sign for the game, or a bad sign for the game?

ill answer that for you, its a good sign

R-Dot-Yung

Where is everyone getting $40 million budget from? Last time I checked it was just over $21 million.

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=11867

Lost Planet was the game that cost $40 million.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/capcom/lost-planet-pricetag-40-million-233693.php

Just food for a throught thats all. While there have been undoubtably beenbad films with massive bugets. However almost all those films share one thing in common especially the trulymassive bugets films i.e. star wars, Titannic, Lord of the Rings, King Kong etc.Amazing Special Effects

It isn't a bad sign, but it isn't necessarily a guarantee of success.

If someone gave me $40 million to make the greatest FPS ever, the extra money wouldn't solve the problem of the fact that I'm not exactly an experienced or skilled game developer. Money can only take you so far.

It isn't a bad sign, but it isn't necessarily a guarantee of success.

If someone gave me $40 million to make the greatest FPS ever, the extra money wouldn't solve the problem of the fact that I'm not exactly an experienced or skilled game developer. Money can only take you so far.

sonicmj1

With $50 million you can get exclusive episodic content.

I saw a lot of ads for Lost Planet. Every single month in Game Informer. Every single month. I take it it's $20 million development, $20 million advertisement.

I don't think a single dollar has been spent on Killzone advertisement....seeing as I think I've seen no footage whatsoever, and neither has the media (except for a tech demo, which I suppose cost very little to produce or was included in the development cost itself).

[QUOTE="hi381"]

[QUOTE="darthogre"]Because that's about the only thing we know about the game? CGI video was fake footage. Besides that there is nothing but a budget. So if you are determined to hype this game you can't use screens, video, history (KZ1 floped)......so the only thing left is the budget they are using. Kind of stupid if you ask me but it'll make great theater if it ends up flopping.Yellow_Rose

let me ask you a question, how is a CGI vid fake, no 1 ever said it was gameplay it a CGI FOR GOODNESS SAKES....and there are pic's of it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRVAVdF8HLc&mode=related&search=

As you was saying? ;)

at the end of the conference he said he made a mistake and was talking about resistance ..also whoever thought that was gameplay has to be an....

With $50 million you can get exclusive episodic content.

ReverseCycology

Hehehehahahahahah.

[QUOTE="sonicmj1"]

It isn't a bad sign, but it isn't necessarily a guarantee of success.

If someone gave me $40 million to make the greatest FPS ever, the extra money wouldn't solve the problem of the fact that I'm not exactly an experienced or skilled game developer. Money can only take you so far.

Teufelhuhn

July 11th-13th. Questions will be answered, debates resolved. You're all debating nothing.Redfingers

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="sonicmj1"]

It isn't a bad sign, but it isn't necessarily a guarantee of success.

If someone gave me $40 million to make the greatest FPS ever, the extra money wouldn't solve the problem of the fact that I'm not exactly an experienced or skilled game developer. Money can only take you so far.

subrosian

[QUOTE="hi381"]

[QUOTE="darthogre"]Because that's about the only thing we know about the game? CGI video was fake footage. Besides that there is nothing but a budget. So if you are determined to hype this game you can't use screens, video, history (KZ1 floped)......so the only thing left is the budget they are using. Kind of stupid if you ask me but it'll make great theater if it ends up flopping.Yellow_Rose

let me ask you a question, how is a CGI vid fake, no 1 ever said it was gameplay it a CGI FOR GOODNESS SAKES....and there are pic's of it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRVAVdF8HLc&mode=related&search=

As you was saying? ;)

Halo 3 trailer much?:?

[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="hi381"]

[QUOTE="darthogre"]Because that's about the only thing we know about the game? CGI video was fake footage. Besides that there is nothing but a budget. So if you are determined to hype this game you can't use screens, video, history (KZ1 floped)......so the only thing left is the budget they are using. Kind of stupid if you ask me but it'll make great theater if it ends up flopping.gogeta242

let me ask you a question, how is a CGI vid fake, no 1 ever said it was gameplay it a CGI FOR GOODNESS SAKES....and there are pic's of it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRVAVdF8HLc&mode=related&search=

As you was saying? ;)

Halo 3 trailer much?:?

Which one?

Well usually the more money a game has, the more polished it is. So at least we won't get some rushed, unpolished game like last time.

Also the more money means the more voice talent and just more people they can hire, usually meaning better game. Gears of War is nothing compared to what they are trying to do with Killzone 2. GeoW was all about in-your-face combat on squad to squad levels with amazing graphics, gameplay, and sound. In all reality it is quite small. Killzone 2 is massive. All about huge battles spanning cities with hundreds of soldiers. Really Gears of War really wasn't as ambitous as Killzone 2 is (not saying GeoW sucked, just saying not as ambitious. It didn't take any risks, also M$ didn't depend on it like Sony with Killzone 2).

[QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="hi381"]

[QUOTE="darthogre"]Because that's about the only thing we know about the game? CGI video was fake footage. Besides that there is nothing but a budget. So if you are determined to hype this game you can't use screens, video, history (KZ1 floped)......so the only thing left is the budget they are using. Kind of stupid if you ask me but it'll make great theater if it ends up flopping.MCGSMB

let me ask you a question, how is a CGI vid fake, no 1 ever said it was gameplay it a CGI FOR GOODNESS SAKES....and there are pic's of it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRVAVdF8HLc&mode=related&search=

As you was saying? ;)

Halo 3 trailer much?:?

Which one?

E306, the one that was confirmed to be in-game by MS.

There's only2 words and one number I have to say regarding productions with huge budgets: Spider Man 3. That was awful.

[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="hi381"]

[QUOTE="darthogre"]Because that's about the only thing we know about the game? CGI video was fake footage. Besides that there is nothing but a budget. So if you are determined to hype this game you can't use screens, video, history (KZ1 floped)......so the only thing left is the budget they are using. Kind of stupid if you ask me but it'll make great theater if it ends up flopping.lawlessx

let me ask you a question, how is a CGI vid fake, no 1 ever said it was gameplay it a CGI FOR GOODNESS SAKES....and there are pic's of it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRVAVdF8HLc&mode=related&search=

As you was saying? ;)

nice find :lol:

:lol:

[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="hi381"]

[QUOTE="darthogre"]Because that's about the only thing we know about the game? CGI video was fake footage. Besides that there is nothing but a budget. So if you are determined to hype this game you can't use screens, video, history (KZ1 floped)......so the only thing left is the budget they are using. Kind of stupid if you ask me but it'll make great theater if it ends up flopping.hi381

let me ask you a question, how is a CGI vid fake, no 1 ever said it was gameplay it a CGI FOR GOODNESS SAKES....and there are pic's of it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRVAVdF8HLc&mode=related&search=

As you was saying? ;)

at the end of the conference he said he made a mistake and was talking about resistance ..also whoever thought that was gameplay has to be an....

All cows were going crazy about that killzone video, you can even look at the comments in the link of youtube, there are some that still believed it was real.

You dont need a bid budget to make a game of the year A.K.A. Gears of war which costed only 10 million and that sold 4 million copies, so you dont need a huge budget so stop bringing that up everytime in a killzone 2 thread.

xjet039