why do devs bother making a game this day in age with no good story

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#1 Scar_Finger
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this is the gen of near photo realism and is the perfect opportunity to portray wonderful stories and experiences. when i play a game even tho i have fun with it, i cant help but feel sometimes that im wasting my time. however, if the game im playing tells me someones experiences and possibly teaches me something about life, or the imagination at least, i think i would feel more satisfied and enjoy games much more.

if devs are busy programming and coding that they forget to worry about a PLOT, then if any devs are reading this, i urge you HIRE SCRIPT WRITERS who know what they are doing. I havent played heavy rain yet but am looking forward to this game, and hope it sets a solid example of how much a story can actually sell a game.

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#2 funsohng
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"Story in a game is like a story in a porn movie." - John Carmack
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#3 ber4fun
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Because it seems like people only care about multiplayer anymore, which doesnt need a story.. I miss good single player storylines.

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#4 SPYDER0416
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Wow, I can't believe John Carmack said that, kind of a loss of credibility.

But whatever, Uncharted 2, Mass Effect, inFAMOUS etc. All of those games got great tales. If you want to whine, its the wrong time.

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#5 aroxx_ab
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Well it depends on genre, some games is just fine without story

"Story in a game is like a story in a porn movie." - John Carmackfunsohng

LOL well said

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#6 Ravensmash
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Mass Effect 2 had a brilliant story imo. Not necessarily original or anything, but the game felt cinematic at times.
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#7 IppoTenma
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"Story in a game is like a story in a porn movie." - John Carmackfunsohng
But I like good Premise's in my porn. :D
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#8 funsohng
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[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

Wow, I can't believe John Carmack said that, kind of a loss of credibility.

But whatever, Uncharted 2, Mass Effect, inFAMOUS etc. All of those games got great tales. If you want to whine, its the wrong time.

he said that in 90's when things were A LOT different. (yeah there were falout, planescape torment, etc, but still) it's still fun to bring that up
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#9 Scar_Finger
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"Story in a game is like a story in a porn movie." - John Carmackfunsohng
i use to think like that too and up until last week i use to think ppl who wanted stories in games were from another planet, that is until i started playing red faction guerilla. this games story is so non existant that ive realized how much ive taken other games with half-decent stories for granted.
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#10 RawDeal_basic
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Mario games have little story.

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#11 Scar_Finger
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Mass Effect 2 had a brilliant story imo. Not necessarily original or anything, but the game felt cinematic at times.Ravensmash
dragon age origins was awesome story telling i think one of the best of its kinds
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#12 AAllxxjjnn
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I just want a well told story with good characters. It doesn't need to be original or groundbreaking.

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#13 2mrw
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"Story in a game is like a story in a porn movie." - John Carmackfunsohng
@#$$#%%^$@#$!!##%%^
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#14 Phoenix534
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Three words. Online multiplayer addiction.

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#15 murat8
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"Story in a game is like a story in a porn movie." - John Carmackfunsohng
O_O its creepy how much sense that makes i need to write down that quote this video kind of elaborated my opinon on a few things video
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#16 Scar_Finger
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Mario games have little story.

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true....but marios platforming more then makes up for it.......not all games can be as fun as that..
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#17 Gxgear
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"Story in a game is like a story in a porn movie." - John Carmackfunsohng

Well put.

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#18 OreoMilkshake
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I don't see the library carrying video games.
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#19 Gundamforce
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"Story in a game is like a story in a porn movie." - John Carmackfunsohng

Well put.

Well it depends on genre, some games is just fine without story aroxx_ab

Agreed. Some games, story makes it great, in others, you don't care or even notice.

I don't see the library carrying video games.OreoMilkshake

lol

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#20 WilliamRLBaker
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Actually I think you have it in reverse...they can afford to not have a good story in this day and age compared to the past.

Compared to the past good graphics, gameplay make up for all of it. but back then? you didn't have the best of graphics a good story was the point there was no way to sell a game that had a major story and that story not good.

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#21 topgunmv
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"Story in a game is like a story in a porn movie." - John Carmackfunsohng

I used that quote in a term paper. John Carmack's games are the videogame equivalent of a porn movie (all flash no substance), so it makes sense.

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#22 sam_nintendo
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"Story in a game is like a story in a porn movie." - John Carmackfunsohng
And this is why we put designers in charge of programmers.
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#23 navyguy21
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[QUOTE="funsohng"]"Story in a game is like a story in a porn movie." - John CarmackIppoTenma
But I like good Premise's in my porn. :D

*knock, knock* "im here to fix your pipes" *cue porn music* :lol:
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#24 XxChicagoTedXx
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People care a lot more about online multiplayer than story. I personaly would trade the whole multiplayer expierience of console if most games had great stories. But there are still plenty out there: Mass Effect 1, ME2, DA:O, and Heavy Rain.

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#25 salxis
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I never expect a good story from games, as long as it's passable that's good enough for me, I play games to be entertained by this specific media, it's still not the best story-telling medium out there if I really want good stories I'll read a book, watch TV/Drama. Although Heavy Rain's showing a step in the right direction imo, but I will never want developers to focus on story more than gameplay, that's not what gaming is about.
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#26 akbar13
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[QUOTE="funsohng"]"Story in a game is like a story in a porn movie." - John CarmackIppoTenma
But I like good Premise's in my porn. :D

I like to know what made the start to do "stuff" then I just skip through the rest until I find a shot that I like in the video.

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#27 brickdoctor
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inFAMOUS, Heavy Rain, Mass Effect, any of these games ring a bell?

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#28 Persistantthug
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I like good stories and writing in my video games very much.

Here's a very good toon'ish explaination on why stories in video games often may or may not happen....a story about stories, if you will.

Check it out because its very good.

Video Games and Storytelling

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#29 ImageChef
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"Story in a game is like a story in a porn movie." - John Carmackfunsohng
Yea, in HIS games. They mostly all suck. He only gets props for getting the tech to do something 3 months before the other guys do it. I think he's doing better on Rage though.
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#30 Gundamforce
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To be fair, i don't remember many games in the past that had a good story outside RPGs. Then again, i wasn't much of a hardcore gamer back then and i mainly played platformers and fighters back then, which isn't really known for stories (ex. Mario, Crash).

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#31 pp_sven_berg
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someone may love the game and play them so funny, which one you said its story are not even so good. It's your choice actually, which point you wanna focus and make you happy. That's all I think.
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#32 DEATH775
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To me story is not the no 1 priority in a game. What's important in a game is the gameplay.
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#33 VanDammFan
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The reason some developers dont care is ...WHY should they? 99% of the gaming population only playes online so why waste time on a story? AND when they do make a good story with cut scenes and such, people skip them

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#34 madsnakehhh
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"Story in a game is like a story in a porn movie." - John Carmackfunsohng

While it might be true for some cases (figthing, platform, FPS, etc) there are genres that must have a good story (RPGs, Graphic Novels, Point and Click, etc) so i'm not quiet agree with that sentence.

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#35 AmayaPapaya
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Some games are better without a stroy. Mario being a big one. People will always complaing about Mario not having a story. BUt think about it. What would happen in a mario story that wouldn't make it feel kiddy. Mario needs to stay without a story. Also, I find that Metroid doesn't need a story at all. I enjoyed that a lot in Metroid Prime. Prime IMO has one of the best ways of telling the story though. By reading the text you find in the level. But it is great with some games. Others like said above, don't need it.

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#36 i_d_k23
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there are plenty single player games out there but now a days multiplayer has skyrocketed in popularity
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#37 VendettaRed07
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"Story in a game is like a story in a porn movie." - John Carmackfunsohng

amazing quote

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#38 Teuf_
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Wow, I can't believe John Carmack said that, kind of a loss of credibility.

SPYDER0416



He's programmer, not a designer. Why would you care what he personally thinks about story in games?

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#39 Teuf_
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[QUOTE="funsohng"]"Story in a game is like a story in a porn movie." - John Carmacksam_nintendo
And this is why we put designers in charge of programmers.



Designers aren't in charge of anything except for a game's design. ;)

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#40 goblaa
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Because more than one genre of games exsist. Why the hell would a puzzle game need story?

Games are not a story telling medium firts, they are a playing medium first.

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#41 goblaa
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I just want a well told story with good characters. It doesn't need to be original or groundbreaking.

AAllxxjjnn

If that's all you want from a game, then I suggest you go rent a good movie.

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#42 topgunmv
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]

I just want a well told story with good characters. It doesn't need to be original or groundbreaking.

goblaa

If that's all you want from a game, then I suggest you go rent a good movie.

Why not a good game?

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#43 i_d_k23
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buy uncharted1 n 2 metal gear solid 4 mass effect 1 n 2 gears of war theres many great single player games
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#44 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Because games are about GAMEPLAY first and foremost, about having fun. The story, therefore, does not matter. AT ALL.
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#45 AAllxxjjnn
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]

I just want a well told story with good characters. It doesn't need to be original or groundbreaking.

goblaa

If that's all you want from a game, then I suggest you go rent a good movie.

....given that the devs are trying to tell a story.
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#46 DanteSuikoden
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because it sells

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#47 goblaa
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[QUOTE="goblaa"]

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]

I just want a well told story with good characters. It doesn't need to be original or groundbreaking.

AAllxxjjnn

If that's all you want from a game, then I suggest you go rent a good movie.

....given that the devs are trying to tell a story.

...some devs. Many games need no story and the few that do are almost always horribly written/acted.

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#48 brumley53
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"Story in a game is like a story in a porn movie." - John Carmackfunsohng

John Carmack is a douche, pretty much everyone else on the DOOM development team was cool. also buying a game without a story is like buying a book of random words.

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#49 goblaa
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[QUOTE="funsohng"]"Story in a game is like a story in a porn movie." - John Carmackbrumley53

John Carmack is a douche, pretty much everyone else on the DOOM development team was cool. also buying a game without a story is like buying a book of random words.

Yeah, I hate all puzzle games, sports games, racers, online games, and sim games too.

Oh, wait, no I don't. Because game comes before story and video games almost always suck big time in the story department.

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#50 Lantern-Cusp
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There are loads of games with great stories, i mean FFS Heavy Rain...........