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#1 gink101
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There are only 2 genres that the PC beats consoles in and thats RTS's and MMO's Unless you completely love those 2 genres there is really no reason to own a PC. Lets compare 2007 and up to currently 2008 between the PC and the Xbox 360. Ive excluded games that appear on both and included games that have huge score differences (more than 15%).

GAmerankings scores

2007

PC

Galactic Civilizations 2- 93% (RTS)

WOW Burning Crusade- 91% (MMO)

Crysis- 91% (FPS)

COH:OF- 88% (RTS)

LOTR Online- 87% (MMO)

Civilization IV- 87% (RTS)

MIdieval 2- 85% (RTS)

Europa Universalis- 83% (RTS)

Stalker- 82% (FPS)

Sup Com Forged Alnce- 82% (RTS)

Titan Quest- 81% (RPG)

Jade Empire- 80%

AAA's 3

AA's 9

RTS's- 6

FPS's- 2

MMo's- 2

XBOX 360

Halo 3- 94% (FPS)

Rock Band- 93% (Music)

Forza 2- 90% (Racing)

Virtua Fighter 5- 90% (Fighting)

Skate- 87% (Extreme Sport)

PGR4- 86% (Racing)

GRAW2- 85% (Tactical Shooter) According to reviews i read the PC version was taylor made, it averaged a 75% review score.

NBA 2k8- 84% (Sport)

Crackdown- 84% (Sandbox/action)

The Darkness- 83% (FPS)

Madden 08- 83% (Sport)

NBA Street Homecourt- 83% (Sport)

NCAA Football 08- 82% (Sport)

The Bigs- 82% (Sport)

Ace Combat- 81% (Flight Combat)

Lego Star Wars Complete Saga- 81% (Platformer)

College Hoops 2k8- 81% (Sport)

4 AAA's

13 AA's

AS YOU CAN SEE XBOX 360 HAS MUCH MORE VARIETY THAN THE PC

2008

PC

Sins Of A Solar Empire- 88% (RTS)

AAA's 0

AA's 1

Xbox 360

Grand Theft Auto IV- 99% (Sandbox)

Burnout Paradise- 89% (Racing)

Devil May Cry 4- 83% (Action)

Condemned 2 Bloodshot- 81% (FPS)

Bully Scholarship Edition- 81%

Why is it that hermits throw the phrase around the pc has the best lineup with the most variety when comparing thier precious pc's to a console such as the XBOX 360 or PS3.

THIS IS NOT A DISCUSSION ABOUT HARDWARE, ONLINE GAMING COSTS, CONSOLE PRICE!!!!

This thread is merely a discussion about the myth that PC's have better games than consoles. It makes me laugh that all these hermits make these threads about how to build a gaming rig for almost as cheap as a console. But whats the point. As you can see from this list consoles have much more quantity and variety of great games.

Well atleast your beating consoles in RTS's. Ill give you that much. ;)

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#2 linkthewindow
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*waits for higher standards argument* Well, to put it simply, I agree that the standards on PC are higher. Compare Stalker with Halo. There you go. Oh, and Civilization IV is not an RTS
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#3 Blackbond
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Because on "PAPER" it has more/better games. This is fact and nobody can dispute it.
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#4 Sonir77
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I reacken PC FPS easily beats consoles
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#5 travt-down
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There ARE more quality games on the PC than consoles. Want proof? OK

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p7pcq78sddbXfN0A-LjKWEA&gid=0

Are we done yet?

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#6 gink101
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Because on "PAPER" it has more/better games. This is fact and nobody can dispute it.Blackbond

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Good one on not reading my post at all because ON PAPERRR !!!!! IT DOES NOT HAVE BETTER GAMES. Maybe better RTS's but definately not better games. Try reading my post which actually has FACTS in it.

HAHAHAHA this what im talking about, people just throw it around as fact that pc's have better games, when you actually compare them to eachother it actually doesn't.

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#7 gink101
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There ARE more quality games on the PC than consoles. Want proof? OK

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p7pcq78sddbXfN0A-LjKWEA&gid=0

Are we done yet?

travt-down

Once again did you not read my post???? Please read it before linking to some spreadsheet thats supposed to be proof. I carefully laid out all the games and thier average scores for you.

6 of the 12 games that PC has above 80% in 2007 are RTS's And the only one it has in 2008 is a RTS. I told you i will admit that it has RTS's but in every other genre it is beaten or matched by consoles.

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The problem with the PC is not with volume of great games, but rather with genre representation. You'll have a hard time finding great fighters, sports games, minigame compliations, and other such games on a PC.
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#9 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]Because on "PAPER" it has more/better games. This is fact and nobody can dispute it.gink101

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Good one on not reading my post at all because ON PAPERRR !!!!! IT DOES NOT HAVE BETTER GAMES. Maybe better RTS's but definately not better games. Try reading my post which actually has FACTS in it.

HAHAHAHA this what im talking about, people just throw it around as fact that pc's have better games, when you actually compare them to eachother it actually doesn't.

Last I checked we were on Gamespot not Gamerankings. Secondly even on GR the PC still has the most quality games on it. You fail either way.

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[QUOTE="travt-down"]

There ARE more quality games on the PC than consoles. Want proof? OK

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p7pcq78sddbXfN0A-LjKWEA&gid=0

Are we done yet?

gink101

Once again did you not read my post???? Please read it before linking to some spreadsheet thats supposed to be proof. I carefully laid out all the games and thier average scores for you.

6 of the 12 games that PC has above 80% in 2007 are RTS's And the only one it has in 2008 is a RTS. I told you i will admit that it has RTS's but in every other genre it is beaten or matched by consoles.

And yet, you conveniently forget to mention that 7 of the titles you listed for the 360 are sports titles.

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#11 ModernTimes
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Overall the PC has access to better games that consoles. First off we need to look beyond the games you have listed. The PC has access to emulators for almost every past system and all of the awesome (and free) games on the internets. The PC has more amazing games than consoles. It's a fact.
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#12 gink101
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[QUOTE="gink101"]

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]Because on "PAPER" it has more/better games. This is fact and nobody can dispute it.Blackbond

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Good one on not reading my post at all because ON PAPERRR !!!!! IT DOES NOT HAVE BETTER GAMES. Maybe better RTS's but definately not better games. Try reading my post which actually has FACTS in it.

HAHAHAHA this what im talking about, people just throw it around as fact that pc's have better games, when you actually compare them to eachother it actually doesn't.

Last I checked we were on Gamespot not Gamerankings. Secondly even on GR the PC still has the most quality games on it. You fail either way.

The Reason it has more high scoring games is because it isn't divided into generations like consoles. Did you see my original post? In 2007 it was beaten by consoles and is continuing thus far into 2008. Im trying to make it as easy to understand as possible. Looking at the last 16 months the PC has been outpaced by consoles in both variety quantity and quality.

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The problem with the PC is not with volume of great games, but rather with genre representation. You'll have a hard time finding great fighters, sports games, minigame compliations, and other such games on a PC.famicommander

you can add platformers to that list as well.

Mind you PC does do better in other genres though (FPS) and it has stuff like RTS's which are non existant on consoles

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#14 butteater86
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Why is the PC included in this forum? Why is it not console wars?

Going by this forum's rules, the PC always wins, so why is it included?

Is this forum intended to be a place where PC gamers can come to feel better about themselves or something?

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#15 linkthewindow
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The Reason it has more high scoring games is because it isn't divided into generations like consoles. Did you see my original post? In 2007 it was beaten by consoles and is continuing thus far into 2008. Im trying to make it as easy to understand as possible. Looking at the last 16 months the PC has been outpaced by consoles in both variety quantity and quality.

gink101
So? Thats a disadvantage of the consoles, not an unfair advantage of the PC. I could go to the store and pick up Starcraft (a '97-98 game) and play it in moments with my modern PC. Although some games can be played (emulation, etc,) not all, and not back decades.
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#16 butteater86
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Overall the PC has access to better games that consoles. First off we need to look beyond the games you have listed. The PC has access to emulators for almost every past system and all of the awesome (and free) games on the internets. The PC has more amazing games than consoles. It's a fact.ModernTimes

No, it isn't. Go to gamerankings.com and look at the top 100 rated games. Way more console games than PC. Fact.

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#17 Blackbond
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The Reason it has more high scoring games is because it isn't divided into generations like consoles. Did you see my original post? In 2007 it was beaten by consoles and is continuing thus far into 2008. Im trying to make it as easy to understand as possible. Looking at the last 16 months the PC has been outpaced by consoles in both variety quantity and quality.

gink101

On GS the PC scores are seperated into generations just like consoles are. When the first next gen console comes out thats when you start considering PC games. Even then the PC wins. The mere fact that you have to compare multiple platforms to one makes the consoles look bad and inferior. Something I do not wish you to do. All you're doing is making the PC look like the bully on the block that all the little kids have to join forces to overthrow.

Accept PC and Console gaming for what it is. But on PAPER the PC can never be beaten.

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#18 Blackbond
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Why is the PC included in this forum? Why is it not console wars?

Going by this forum's rules, the PC always wins, so why is it included?

Is this forum intended to be a place where PC gamers can come to feel better about themselves or something?

butteater86

Why wasn't this place just called Nintendo vs Microsoft Wars for the last two gens. PS1 and PS2 always was this forum intended to be a place where cows can feel better about themselves or something?

Suck it up man.

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#19 tenaka2
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Yawn......

Another poster ignoring the fact that the PC has more AA and AAA games than any console.......

Thats not an opinion, its a fact.

If you want to try pretend that consoles are better try sticking to the cost issue, or the fact that consoles are easier to use. Trying to argue that the games are better will get you nowhere as the facts disprove you.

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#20 gink101
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[QUOTE="gink101"]

The Reason it has more high scoring games is because it isn't divided into generations like consoles. Did you see my original post? In 2007 it was beaten by consoles and is continuing thus far into 2008. Im trying to make it as easy to understand as possible. Looking at the last 16 months the PC has been outpaced by consoles in both variety quantity and quality.

linkthewindow

So? Thats a disadvantage of the consoles, not an unfair advantage of the PC. I could go to the store and pick up Starcraft (a '97-98 game) and play it in moments with my modern PC. Although some games can be played (emulation, etc,) not all, and not back decades.

Ok so your basically admitting that in recent years it's been beaten by consoles? Im referring to the last 16 months i listed. And i know when hermits talk about how much better pc gaming they aren't referring to games im playing on my web browser at work or bargain games that were out when i was playing banjo kazooie. Im talking about next gen games. What has the PC had in the last year and a half over consoles? Stalker and Crysis, thats it and a bunch of RTS's.

Now im not saying that PC gaming sucks but it just seems that the PC is looked at as some god gaming platform but when you look at the facts in recent years its far from outshining consoles.

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#21 naval
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There ARE more quality games on the PC than consoles. Want proof? OK

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p7pcq78sddbXfN0A-LjKWEA&gid=0

Are we done yet?

travt-down

true, so thread fails ! we use GS scores here

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#22 shadow_hosi
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PC has more genres....

all consoles have are shooters, action/adventure racing arcade, flying arcade, fighting, minimal RTS, RPG, a few TBS, MMO , and button mashers

PC has shooters, adventure, racing sim, flying sim, flying arcade, racing arcade, RTS, RPG, TBS, Tactics games (TW/Civ), City builder, god games, MMO ect. not to mention all the indie stuff

edit: also, Gal.Civ. is NOT an RTS it is a strategy game much like TW and Civ are

learn about the topic before you post plzkthx

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[QUOTE="gink101"]

The Reason it has more high scoring games is because it isn't divided into generations like consoles. Did you see my original post? In 2007 it was beaten by consoles and is continuing thus far into 2008. Im trying to make it as easy to understand as possible. Looking at the last 16 months the PC has been outpaced by consoles in both variety quantity and quality.

Blackbond

On GS the PC scores are seperated into generations just like consoles are. When the first next gen console comes out thats when you start considering PC games. Even then the PC wins. The mere fact that you have to compare multiple platforms to one makes the consoles look bad and inferior. Something I do not wish you to do. All you're doing is making the PC look like the bully on the block that all the little kids have to join forces to overthrow.

Accept PC and Console gaming for what it is. But on PAPER the PC can never be beaten.

This method doesn't give fair representation to the consoles because all development isn't automatically moved to the new console once its released. That is why im comparing the 360 and the pc from 2007 to present because both systems are in thier prime. And also in my comparison i only compared the xbox 360 and the PC and still the PC loses.

And to who said its a fact that PC has more AA's and AAA's did you even read or look over my original post? Im comparing them from 2007 on, of coarse it has more high rated games the PC has been out for 20 years. Why should we count games that came out in 2001 for the PC, are PC gamers really that desperate? Can't compete in recent years so you go back to playing starcraft?

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#24 Blackbond
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Total AAAA (# exclusive)

  • 360: 1 (0)
  • PS3: 1 (0)

Total AAA (# exclusive)

  • PC: 15 (8 )
  • 360: 13 (4)
  • PS3: 8 (0)
  • Wii: 6 (4)

Total AA (# exclusive)

  • PC: 76 (52)
  • 360: 60 (10)
  • PS3: 36 (4)
  • Wii: 18 (6)

  1. PC ties all three consoles in AAAE's.
  2. PC anniliates all three consoles in AAE's by a margin of 32 games.
  3. Consoles win in AAAA games of course.

On paper there are just more good games on PC.

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#25 gink101
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PC has more genres....

all consoles have are shooters, action/adventure racing arcade, flying arcade, fighting, minimal RTS, RPG, a few TBS, MMO , and button mashers

PC has shooters, adventure, racing sim, flying sim, flying arcade, racing arcade, RTS, RPG, TBS, Tactics games (TW/Civ), City builder, god games, MMO ect. not to mention all the indie stuff

shadow_hosi

I want you to do a little experiment with what you said. Go back to my original post and take away all RTS's and MMO's from the list of PC games then come back here and tell me it has the most genres.

NO SERIOUSLEY go try it.

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There are only 2 genres that the PC beats consoles in and thats RTS's and MMO's Unless you completely love those 2 genres there is really no reason to own a PC.

gink101

My favorite genres are adventure and simulation, both practicaly non-existant on consoles, so PC for me.

PC is also better in puzzle and FPSes. And not every strategy game in RTS you know :)

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This method doesn't give fair representation to the consoles because all development isn't automatically moved to the new console once its released. That is why im comparing the 360 and the pc from 2007 to present because both systems are in thier prime. And also in my comparison i only compared the xbox 360 and the PC and still the PC loses.

And to who said its a fact that PC has more AA's and AAA's did you even read or look over my original post? Im comparing them from 2007 on, of coarse it has more high rated games the PC has been out for 20 years. Why should we count games that came out in 2001 for the PC, are PC gamers really that desperate? Can't compete in recent years so you go back to playing starcraft?

gink101

Yeah and you know what its not fair to the PS3 or the Wii that 360 launched earlier. Its also not fair that PC has to even wait until the first next gen console as it puts out games that look next gen well before the next gen consoles come out. So you complain that its not fair yet you go ahead and try to cherry pick a year. Nice try man. You take it from the begining to the end. The current gen existed before 2007.

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[QUOTE="gink101"]

There are only 2 genres that the PC beats consoles in and thats RTS's and MMO's Unless you completely love those 2 genres there is really no reason to own a PC.

AdrianWerner

My favorite genres are adventure and simulation, both practicaly non-existant on consoles, so PC for me.

PC is also better in puzzle and FPSes. And not every strategy game in RTS you know :)

What? Im pretty sure there are plenty of adventure games for consoles.

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#29 gink101
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Total AAAA (# exclusive)

  • 360: 1 (0)
  • PS3: 1 (0)

Total AAA (# exclusive)

  • PC: 15 (8 )
  • 360: 13 (4)
  • PS3: 8 (0)
  • Wii: 6 (4)

Total AA (# exclusive)

  • PC: 76 (52)
  • 360: 60 (10)
  • PS3: 36 (4)
  • Wii: 18 (6)

  1. PC ties all three consoles in AAAE's.
  2. PC anniliates all three consoles in AAE's by a margin of 32 games.
  3. Consoles win in AAAA games of course.

On paper there are just more good games on PC.

Blackbond

PC 76

360 60

No since its smarter to use gamerankings because it is CNETS site that compiles many reviews. I want you to look at games from 2007 and on. If you do you will see that the PC has had nothing special, and most of its games are RTS's and MMO's. Its a fact. I layed this out in my original post.

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#30 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"]

PC has more genres....

all consoles have are shooters, action/adventure racing arcade, flying arcade, fighting, minimal RTS, RPG, a few TBS, MMO , and button mashers

PC has shooters, adventure, racing sim, flying sim, flying arcade, racing arcade, RTS, RPG, TBS, Tactics games (TW/Civ), City builder, god games, MMO ect. not to mention all the indie stuff

gink101

I want you to do a little experiment with what you said. Go back to my original post and take away all RTS's and MMO's from the list of PC games then come back here and tell me it has the most genres.

NO SERIOUSLEY go try it.

Why don't we take out those annual sport games while we are at it :roll:

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#31 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

Total AAAA (# exclusive)

  • 360: 1 (0)
  • PS3: 1 (0)

Total AAA (# exclusive)

  • PC: 15 (8 )
  • 360: 13 (4)
  • PS3: 8 (0)
  • Wii: 6 (4)

Total AA (# exclusive)

  • PC: 76 (52)
  • 360: 60 (10)
  • PS3: 36 (4)
  • Wii: 18 (6)

  1. PC ties all three consoles in AAAE's.
  2. PC anniliates all three consoles in AAE's by a margin of 32 games.
  3. Consoles win in AAAA games of course.

On paper there are just more good games on PC.

gink101

PC 76

360 60

No since its smarter to use gamerankings because it is CNETS site that compiles many reviews. I want you to look at games from 2007 and on. If you do you will see that the PC has had nothing special, and most of its games are RTS's and MMO's. Its a fact. I layed this out in my original post.

Then take it to the Gamerankings forums. This is Gamespot. The facts are laid right up top for you. Those are standings or whatever you want to call them for this gen and the PC is a top the leaderboard.

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#32 gink101
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[QUOTE="gink101"]

This method doesn't give fair representation to the consoles because all development isn't automatically moved to the new console once its released. That is why im comparing the 360 and the pc from 2007 to present because both systems are in thier prime. And also in my comparison i only compared the xbox 360 and the PC and still the PC loses.

And to who said its a fact that PC has more AA's and AAA's did you even read or look over my original post? Im comparing them from 2007 on, of coarse it has more high rated games the PC has been out for 20 years. Why should we count games that came out in 2001 for the PC, are PC gamers really that desperate? Can't compete in recent years so you go back to playing starcraft?

Blackbond

Yeah and you know what its not fair to the PS3 or the Wii that 360 launched earlier. Its also not fair that PC has to even wait until the first next gen console as it puts out games that look next gen well before the next gen consoles come out. So you complain that its not fair yet you go ahead and try to cherry pick a year. Nice try man. You take it from the begining to the end. The current gen existed before 2007.

So you agree the 360 beat the PC in 2007? and so far in 2008? thats all i wanted to hear man, thats all i wanted to hear. Just wanted to make sure hermits got a reality check thats all. Ok we can end this thread now since we finally came to an agreement.

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#33 AdrianWerner
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"][QUOTE="gink101"]

There are only 2 genres that the PC beats consoles in and thats RTS's and MMO's Unless you completely love those 2 genres there is really no reason to own a PC.

monkeysrfat

My favorite genres are adventure and simulation, both practicaly non-existant on consoles, so PC for me.

PC is also better in puzzle and FPSes. And not every strategy game in RTS you know :)

What? Im pretty sure there are plenty of adventure games for consoles.

No, not really. The only one this gen I can think off is Zack and Wiki and that's a borderline adventure game (it;s more like a puzzle game). Now...consoles do great in action-adventure genre, but that's completely separate genre from adventure. Adventure genre on consoles is bassicaly extince, the stuff that apears is mostly a rare inferior port of a very old PC game (most of the time releases after the sequel or two already hits PC). PC and to lesser degree DS are what's keeping the genre alive nowadays
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#34 shadow_hosi
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[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"]

PC has more genres....

all consoles have are shooters, action/adventure racing arcade, flying arcade, fighting, minimal RTS, RPG, a few TBS, MMO , and button mashers

PC has shooters, adventure, racing sim, flying sim, flying arcade, racing arcade, RTS, RPG, TBS, Tactics games (TW/Civ), City builder, god games, MMO ect. not to mention all the indie stuff

gink101

I want you to do a little experiment with what you said. Go back to my original post and take away all RTS's and MMO's from the list of PC games then come back here and tell me it has the most genres.

NO SERIOUSLEY go try it.

gladly

Galactic Civilizations 2- 93% (Sci-Fi TBS)

Civilization IV- 87% (TBS)

Midieval 2- 85% (TBS World mode RTS combat)

Europa Universalis- 83% (Strategy)

Titan Quest- 81% (action/rpg)

Jade Empire- 80%

awww whats wrong? the list is still long

aww poor baby you failed

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#35 gink101
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[QUOTE="gink101"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

Total AAAA (# exclusive)

  • 360: 1 (0)
  • PS3: 1 (0)

Total AAA (# exclusive)

  • PC: 15 (8 )
  • 360: 13 (4)
  • PS3: 8 (0)
  • Wii: 6 (4)

Total AA (# exclusive)

  • PC: 76 (52)
  • 360: 60 (10)
  • PS3: 36 (4)
  • Wii: 18 (6)

  1. PC ties all three consoles in AAAE's.
  2. PC anniliates all three consoles in AAE's by a margin of 32 games.
  3. Consoles win in AAAA games of course.

On paper there are just more good games on PC.

Blackbond

PC 76

360 60

No since its smarter to use gamerankings because it is CNETS site that compiles many reviews. I want you to look at games from 2007 and on. If you do you will see that the PC has had nothing special, and most of its games are RTS's and MMO's. Its a fact. I layed this out in my original post.

Then take it to the Gamerankings forums. This is Gamespot. The facts are laid right up top for you. Those are standings or whatever you want to call them for this gen and the PC is a top the leaderboard.

I think im old enough to decide which CNET forum i want to post in, I just want to know why its considered fact that the PC has been obliterating consoles when i clearly laid out a very strong argument that shows that not being the case.

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And to who said its a fact that PC has more AA's and AAA's did you even read or look over my original post? Im comparing them from 2007 on, of coarse it has more high rated games the PC has been out for 20 years. Why should we count games that came out in 2001 for the PC, are PC gamers really that desperate? Can't compete in recent years so you go back to playing starcraft?

gink101

Why not take a week or month of your choice to try argue that the 360 is better? You could use the week GTA was released!

360 had GTA that week and PC had nothing!!! So the 360 is da best OMG!

Look at the numbers. Your poor arguments cannot change the numbers.

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this guy is dillusional and making thins his way the longer this thread stays alive. TC just give it up man, it is FACT pc has more better scoring games...
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#38 gink101
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[QUOTE="gink101"][QUOTE="shadow_hosi"]

PC has more genres....

all consoles have are shooters, action/adventure racing arcade, flying arcade, fighting, minimal RTS, RPG, a few TBS, MMO , and button mashers

PC has shooters, adventure, racing sim, flying sim, flying arcade, racing arcade, RTS, RPG, TBS, Tactics games (TW/Civ), City builder, god games, MMO ect. not to mention all the indie stuff

shadow_hosi

I want you to do a little experiment with what you said. Go back to my original post and take away all RTS's and MMO's from the list of PC games then come back here and tell me it has the most genres.

NO SERIOUSLEY go try it.

gladly

Galactic Civilizations 2- 93% (Sci-Fi TBS)

Civilization IV- 87% (TBS)

Midieval 2- 85% (TBS World mode RTS combat)

Europa Universalis- 83% (Strategy)

Titan Quest- 81% (action/rpg)

Jade Empire- 80%

awww whats wrong? the list is still long

aww poor baby you failed

Sorry i still consider those games RTS. Nice try though

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#39 shadow_hosi
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="gink101"]

This method doesn't give fair representation to the consoles because all development isn't automatically moved to the new console once its released. That is why im comparing the 360 and the pc from 2007 to present because both systems are in thier prime. And also in my comparison i only compared the xbox 360 and the PC and still the PC loses.

And to who said its a fact that PC has more AA's and AAA's did you even read or look over my original post? Im comparing them from 2007 on, of coarse it has more high rated games the PC has been out for 20 years. Why should we count games that came out in 2001 for the PC, are PC gamers really that desperate? Can't compete in recent years so you go back to playing starcraft?

gink101

Yeah and you know what its not fair to the PS3 or the Wii that 360 launched earlier. Its also not fair that PC has to even wait until the first next gen console as it puts out games that look next gen well before the next gen consoles come out. So you complain that its not fair yet you go ahead and try to cherry pick a year. Nice try man. You take it from the begining to the end. The current gen existed before 2007.

So you agree the 360 beat the PC in 2007? and so far in 2008? thats all i wanted to hear man, thats all i wanted to hear. Just wanted to make sure hermits got a reality check thats all. Ok we can end this thread now since we finally came to an agreement.

The PC has by FAR more AA and AAA games sence the start of this gen

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p7pcq78sddbXfN0A-LjKWEA&gid=0

the list is started ont he launch day of the x360

its a fair comparison, you just dont want to icnlude the starting point of the x360 because it makes the consoles look bad

your a typical fanboy and you cant admit the fact that you lost

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I think im old enough to decide which CNET forum i want to post in, I just want to know why its considered fact that the PC has been obliterating consoles when i clearly laid out a very strong argument that shows that not being the case.

gink101

You didn't make a strong case, you just made stuff up. Your opinion is not fact, numbers are facts.

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#41 shadow_hosi
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[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"][QUOTE="gink101"][QUOTE="shadow_hosi"]

PC has more genres....

all consoles have are shooters, action/adventure racing arcade, flying arcade, fighting, minimal RTS, RPG, a few TBS, MMO , and button mashers

PC has shooters, adventure, racing sim, flying sim, flying arcade, racing arcade, RTS, RPG, TBS, Tactics games (TW/Civ), City builder, god games, MMO ect. not to mention all the indie stuff

gink101

I want you to do a little experiment with what you said. Go back to my original post and take away all RTS's and MMO's from the list of PC games then come back here and tell me it has the most genres.

NO SERIOUSLEY go try it.

gladly

Galactic Civilizations 2- 93% (Sci-Fi TBS)

Civilization IV- 87% (TBS)

Midieval 2- 85% (TBS World mode RTS combat)

Europa Universalis- 83% (Strategy)

Titan Quest- 81% (action/rpg)

Jade Empire- 80%

awww whats wrong? the list is still long

aww poor baby you failed

Sorry i still consider those games RTS. Nice try though

opinion =/= fact sorry i go by the official genre listing not your opinion

you fail

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#42 gink101
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this guy is dillusional and making thins his way the longer this thread stays alive. TC just give it up man, it is FACT pc has more better scoring games...Rage010101

Is it fact it has more better scoring games in the last year and a half on gamerankings or metacritic? Quit living in the past man Im not real concerned with PC games that came out 7 years ago. Sorry

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[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="gink101"]

This method doesn't give fair representation to the consoles because all development isn't automatically moved to the new console once its released. That is why im comparing the 360 and the pc from 2007 to present because both systems are in thier prime. And also in my comparison i only compared the xbox 360 and the PC and still the PC loses.

And to who said its a fact that PC has more AA's and AAA's did you even read or look over my original post? Im comparing them from 2007 on, of coarse it has more high rated games the PC has been out for 20 years. Why should we count games that came out in 2001 for the PC, are PC gamers really that desperate? Can't compete in recent years so you go back to playing starcraft?

gink101

Yeah and you know what its not fair to the PS3 or the Wii that 360 launched earlier. Its also not fair that PC has to even wait until the first next gen console as it puts out games that look next gen well before the next gen consoles come out. So you complain that its not fair yet you go ahead and try to cherry pick a year. Nice try man. You take it from the begining to the end. The current gen existed before 2007.

So you agree the 360 beat the PC in 2007? and so far in 2008? thats all i wanted to hear man, thats all i wanted to hear. Just wanted to make sure hermits got a reality check thats all. Ok we can end this thread now since we finally came to an agreement.

Nope...PC wiped the floor out with 360 in 2007. How many worthwhile exclusives(AA and AAAs) did 360 have in 2007? 5? What a joke :D PC has 4 times more :D
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[QUOTE="monkeysrfat"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"][QUOTE="gink101"]

There are only 2 genres that the PC beats consoles in and thats RTS's and MMO's Unless you completely love those 2 genres there is really no reason to own a PC.

AdrianWerner

My favorite genres are adventure and simulation, both practicaly non-existant on consoles, so PC for me.

PC is also better in puzzle and FPSes. And not every strategy game in RTS you know :)

What? Im pretty sure there are plenty of adventure games for consoles.

No, not really. The only one this gen I can think off is Zack and Wiki and that's a borderline adventure game (it;s more like a puzzle game). Now...consoles do great in action-adventure genre, but that's completely separate genre from adventure. Adventure genre on consoles is bassicaly extince, the stuff that apears is mostly a rare inferior port of a very old PC game (most of the time releases after the sequel or two already hits PC). PC and to lesser degree DS are what's keeping the genre alive nowadays

Hey yeah they do... Thought you meant action adventure though. Whats the difference between an action adventure game and an adventure game? I always thought they were the same thing.

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#45 Blackbond
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So you agree the 360 beat the PC in 2007? and so far in 2008? thats all i wanted to hear man, thats all i wanted to hear. Just wanted to make sure hermits got a reality check thats all. Ok we can end this thread now since we finally came to an agreement.

gink101

A reality check of what? That the PC still has the best games on Paper? It doesn't matter if you win a month, it doesn't matter if you win a year. It doesn't matter at all if you don't hold the overall lead. A basketball team could score less points then the other team in the 4th quarter but if they already dominated the first three they still win. No matter what cherry picking you use or what segments you pick out that the 360, PS3 won or whatever really doesn't matter.

Overall it goes to PC and that's that. The PC has MORE quality games on PAPER. And you can't dispute that.

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#46 gink101
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[QUOTE="gink101"][QUOTE="shadow_hosi"][QUOTE="gink101"][QUOTE="shadow_hosi"]

PC has more genres....

all consoles have are shooters, action/adventure racing arcade, flying arcade, fighting, minimal RTS, RPG, a few TBS, MMO , and button mashers

PC has shooters, adventure, racing sim, flying sim, flying arcade, racing arcade, RTS, RPG, TBS, Tactics games (TW/Civ), City builder, god games, MMO ect. not to mention all the indie stuff

shadow_hosi

I want you to do a little experiment with what you said. Go back to my original post and take away all RTS's and MMO's from the list of PC games then come back here and tell me it has the most genres.

NO SERIOUSLEY go try it.

gladly

Galactic Civilizations 2- 93% (Sci-Fi TBS)

Civilization IV- 87% (TBS)

Midieval 2- 85% (TBS World mode RTS combat)

Europa Universalis- 83% (Strategy)

Titan Quest- 81% (action/rpg)

Jade Empire- 80%

awww whats wrong? the list is still long

aww poor baby you failed

Sorry i still consider those games RTS. Nice try though

opinion =/= fact sorry i go by the official genre listing not your opinion

you fail

Still try comparing those to the amount of genres in the 360 list.

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#47 AdrianWerner
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Sorry i still consider those games RTS. Nice try though

gink101
You consider turn-based games and roleplaying games as RTSes? Now that's pretty original, I will give you that :D
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[QUOTE="Rage010101"]this guy is dillusional and making thins his way the longer this thread stays alive. TC just give it up man, it is FACT pc has more better scoring games...gink101

Is it fact it has more better scoring games in the last year and a half on gamerankings or metacritic? Quit living in the past man Im not real concerned with PC games that came out 7 years ago. Sorry

oh the irony in that post lol seriously...

anyway, you cant just make up your own rules and call it fact..it is FACT that pc has higher scoring games since the BEGINNING OF THIS GENERATION! comprende? can you please get this through your thick skull! since when do any of us here on these forums cut out the beginning of a generation and just compare only a fraction of it...again you are dillusional friend...

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#49 ModernTimes
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[QUOTE="ModernTimes"]Overall the PC has access to better games that consoles. First off we need to look beyond the games you have listed. The PC has access to emulators for almost every past system and all of the awesome (and free) games on the internets. The PC has more amazing games than consoles. It's a fact.butteater86

No, it isn't. Go to gamerankings.com and look at the top 100 rated games. Way more console games than PC. Fact.

Beccause all of the free games are reviewed and placed on gamerankings...

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#50 shadow_hosi
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[QUOTE="Rage010101"]this guy is dillusional and making thins his way the longer this thread stays alive. TC just give it up man, it is FACT pc has more better scoring games...gink101

Is it fact it has more better scoring games in the last year and a half on gamerankings or metacritic? Quit living in the past man Im not real concerned with PC games that came out 7 years ago. Sorry

it is also a fact thit this is neither gamerakings or metacritic, it is also a fact that PC wins outright this whole gen

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p7pcq78sddbXfN0A-LjKWEA&gid=0

started the day this gen started (x360 release date)

and PC is dominating hands down