why do people hate on killzone 1?

I remember buying KZ1 on the PS2 6 years back and I gotta say taht I really enjoyed it. I played it recently (because im hyped as hell for KZ3) and I think that it still holds up. it is still a good looking game with god atmosphere. the controls are solid and it has an oldschool feel to it.

I dont understand why it got so much negative feedback and still does today. Yeah KZ2 is better in every single way, but that game did come out 4+ years later. I think the original Killzone is at least on par with the first two halo games.

don't h8, just stimul8. I can't believe I just said that :|. My friends hated killzone 1 because of the gameplay, they absolutely hated the gameplay. None of them played killzone 2, but most of them love the Killzone 3 beta.

The problem arises from the hype the developers made of it being the "Halo Killer", which it ultimately failed to live up to. On its own merits it can be considered a good game. But measured by the tremendous expectation the claims held it up to, would be disappointing.

The problem arises from the hype the developers made of it being the "Halo Killer", which it ultimately failed to live up to. On its own merits it can be considered a good game. But measured by the tremendous expectation the claims held it up to, would be disappointing.

AdobeArtist

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

The problem arises from the hype the developers made of it being the "Halo Killer", which it ultimately failed to live up to. On its own merits it can be considered a good game. But measured by the tremendous expectation the claims held it up to, would be disappointing.

Nike_Air

Killzone 1 = Halo 2???? :?

Killzone 1 = Halo 2???? :?

KSU-Wildcat

[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

The problem arises from the hype the developers made of it being the "Halo Killer", which it ultimately failed to live up to. On its own merits it can be considered a good game. But measured by the tremendous expectation the claims held it up to, would be disappointing.

Videodogg

[QUOTE="KSU-Wildcat"]

Killzone 1 = Halo 2???? :?

Michael0134567

KZ=/=Halo

Did I use that right? I have no idea what it means :/

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="KSU-Wildcat"]

Killzone 1 = Halo 2???? :?

KSU-Wildcat

I onlyremember the HORRIBLE sniping controls.

I onlyremember the HORRIBLE sniping controls.

Fizzman

KZ1 was fun. despite the flaws and difficulty spikes I was compelled to finish it.

well out of the people that have actually played the game.... no one hated it, its just the halo fans that hate it cuz theyve never played it lol

the game looked amazing.... its easily in the top 5 for graphics, its up there with black FF 10 and 12 and GT4

well out of the people that have actually played the game.... no one hated it, its just the halo fans that hate it cuz theyve never played it lol

the game looked amazing.... its easily in the top 5 for graphics, its up there with black FF 10 and 12 and GT4

mejiseike

Or it's because

1. The sniping controls were incredibly stupid

2. They though putting alot of helghast in at once would make it cool which just slowed the framerate down

3. Enemies were bullet sponges

4. DS2 is probably one of the worst controllers for shooters

5. At least in halo the people spoke clearly and didn't have whacked out names that made it hard to understand who the heck they were talking about. I mean when you select "Templar" on the screen and then people start calling you Yez, or Yaw, or whatever his name was it becomes a WTF moment

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

I onlyremember the HORRIBLE sniping controls.

Michael0134567

No, but im assuming that it was horrible based on your post. No surprise really because that game had a lot of problems.

well out of the people that have actually played the game.... no one hated it, its just the halo fans that hate it cuz theyve never played it lol

the game looked amazing.... its easily in the top 5 for graphics, its up there with black FF 10 and 12 and GT4

mejiseike

lolwut? There was no reason for Halo fans to hate KZ. They were too busy enjoying Halo :)

It had a lot of problems, it's glitchy, has bad controls, some bad a.i., missions vary in quality, etc.

Multiplayer with bots was good.

People hate on killzone 1 because it sucked hearsofironthre

thats all people say. they are just like "it sucks" or "i didnt like it." I have never seen a single person come up with a valid reason why the game was "terrible." not one solitary reason.

People hate on killzone 2 because it was flat out boring and again supposed to be a halo killer ( LOL) People hate on killzone 3 because its a worse version of blackops except the 2 player offline coop is laggy and buggyhearsofironthre

why am I even using you as an example? you have 11 posts and are obviously a troll.

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="Fizzman"]

I onlyremember the HORRIBLE sniping controls.

Fizzman

No, but im assuming that it was horrible based on your post. No surprise really because that game had a lot of problems.

[QUOTE="mejiseike"]

well out of the people that have actually played the game.... no one hated it, its just the halo fans that hate it cuz theyve never played it lol

the game looked amazing.... its easily in the top 5 for graphics, its up there with black FF 10 and 12 and GT4

Hatiko

Or it's because

1. The sniping controls were incredibly stupid- They were fine once you got used to it

2. They though putting alot of helghast in at once would make it cool which just slowed the framerate down - who cares about frame rate? unlesss its lagging...

3. Enemies were bullet sponges - not sure what this means...

4. DS2 is probably one of the worst controllers for shooters - DS2? you mean 3DS? are you typing on your phone or just too lazy to say Dual Shock lol and seems fine since the design has bee out for almost 14 years

5. At least in halo the people spoke clearly and didn't have whacked out names that made it hard to understand who the heck they were talking about. I mean when you select "Templar" on the screen and then people start calling you Yez, or Yaw, or whatever his name was it becomes a WTF moment - im sorry if this bothers you lol ill go tell them to re-right the game so you can understand them :P

[QUOTE="Hatiko"]

[QUOTE="mejiseike"]

well out of the people that have actually played the game.... no one hated it, its just the halo fans that hate it cuz theyve never played it lol

the game looked amazing.... its easily in the top 5 for graphics, its up there with black FF 10 and 12 and GT4

mejiseike

Or it's because

1. The sniping controls were incredibly stupid- They were fine once you got used to it

2. They though putting alot of helghast in at once would make it cool which just slowed the framerate down - who cares about frame rate? unlesss its lagging...

3. Enemies were bullet sponges - not sure what this means...

4. DS2 is probably one of the worst controllers for shooters - DS2? you mean 3DS? are you typing on your phone or just too lazy to say Dual Shock lol and seems fine since the design has bee out for almost 14 years

5. At least in halo the people spoke clearly and didn't have whacked out names that made it hard to understand who the heck they were talking about. I mean when you select "Templar" on the screen and then people start calling you Yez, or Yaw, or whatever his name was it becomes a WTF moment - im sorry if this bothers you lol ill go tell them to re-right the game so you can understand them :P

1. They were stupid, no reason to get used to something that didn't need to be there.

2. Frame rate is important in a game? WTF are you talking about?

3. If you don't know what "bullet sponge" means GTFO.

4. I don't have a phone that can "type" and I meant dual shock 2. ETF did you get 3DS from? And too lazy? Dude it's a video game forum, get over it. And yes it's been out for 14 years. Didn't mean it was good when KZ1 (haha you made because I didn't type the whole thing?:roll: ) came out

5. Again you don't counter you just make fun of my comment. If the chracters name is templar why do they call him some random name. It's like if in halo they randomly started calling master chief lucy or something. You would be like "Who the heck is this lucy" too.

[QUOTE="hearsofironthre"]People hate on killzone 1 because it sucked arbitor365

thats all people say. they are just like "it sucks" or "i didnt like it." I have never seen a single person come up with a valid reason why the game was "terrible." not one solitary reason.

[QUOTE="mejiseike"]

[QUOTE="Hatiko"]

Or it's because

1. The sniping controls were incredibly stupid- They were fine once you got used to it

2. They though putting alot of helghast in at once would make it cool which just slowed the framerate down - who cares about frame rate? unlesss its lagging...

3. Enemies were bullet sponges - not sure what this means...

4. DS2 is probably one of the worst controllers for shooters - DS2? you mean 3DS? are you typing on your phone or just too lazy to say Dual Shock lol and seems fine since the design has bee out for almost 14 years

5. At least in halo the people spoke clearly and didn't have whacked out names that made it hard to understand who the heck they were talking about. I mean when you select "Templar" on the screen and then people start calling you Yez, or Yaw, or whatever his name was it becomes a WTF moment - im sorry if this bothers you lol ill go tell them to re-right the game so you can understand them :P

Hatiko

1. They were stupid, no reason to get used to something that didn't need to be there.

2. Frame rate is important in a game? WTF are you talking about?

3. If you don't know what "bullet sponge" means GTFO.

4. I don't have a phone that can "type" and I meant dual shock 2. ETF did you get 3DS from? And too lazy? Dude it's a video game forum, get over it. And yes it's been out for 14 years. Didn't mean it was good when KZ1 (haha you made because I didn't type the whole thing?:roll: ) came out

5. Again you don't counter you just make fun of my comment. If the chracters name is templar why do they call him some random name. It's like if in halo they randomly started calling master chief lucy or something. You would be like "Who the heck is this lucy" too.

Please, tell me the exact framerates in the parts you are talking about lol

as long as the games runs just fine and doesnt lag who cares about fromrates

you dont have a phone that can type? interesting

and i dont get your arguement on the controller thing... better then Xbox's controller

this game was awesome when it came out, and still is pretty good

all halo had going for it was the story, flood sucked

[QUOTE="Hatiko"]

[QUOTE="mejiseike"]

mejiseike

1. They were stupid, no reason to get used to something that didn't need to be there.

2. Frame rate is important in a game? WTF are you talking about?

3. If you don't know what "bullet sponge" means GTFO.

4. I don't have a phone that can "type" and I meant dual shock 2. ETF did you get 3DS from? And too lazy? Dude it's a video game forum, get over it. And yes it's been out for 14 years. Didn't mean it was good when KZ1 (haha you made because I didn't type the whole thing?:roll: ) came out

5. Again you don't counter you just make fun of my comment. If the chracters name is templar why do they call him some random name. It's like if in halo they randomly started calling master chief lucy or something. You would be like "Who the heck is this lucy" too.

Please, tell me the exact framerates in the parts you are talking about lol

as long as the games runs just fine and doesnt lag who cares about fromrates

you dont have a phone that can type? interesting

and i dont get your arguement on the controller thing... better then Xbox's controller

this game was awesome when it came out, and still is pretty good

all halo had going for it was the story, flood sucked

You do realize when the framerate drops the game starts to go all "slideshowy" I feel like you don't know what a framerate drop is. Play crysis on an old rig and you'll know what I mean. Although it wasn't as bad in kz you still had parts in every level where the framerate would drop randomly when trying to shoot people which would make it hard to hit them. Then the fact that the enemies were bullet sponges from hell made it take forever to actually kill them.

I played KZ1 after playing KZ2, needless to say, the game was no fun to play at all. The AI is very bad, same goes for your friendly AI also (and I thought KZ2's friendly AI was bad), the draw distance is atrocious, gunplay is weak and enemies take forever to kill, the Helghast make "rawr" noises out of the blue, if you're curious about playing it don't, I had to force myself to beat it.

I played KZ1 after playing KZ2, needless to say, the game was no fun to play at all. The AI is very bad, same goes for your friendly AI also (and I thought KZ2's friendly AI was bad), the draw distance is atrocious, the Helghast make "rawr" noises out of the blue, if you're curious about playing it don't, I had to force myself to beat it.

Ziek-AAT

I forgot about the dinosaur noises people made. "No! Johnson, he was only a boy!". It sounded like Darth Vader was trying to be one of the muppets.

well out of the people that have actually played the game.... no one hated it, its just the halo fans that hate it cuz theyve never played it lol

the game looked amazing.... its easily in the top 5 for graphics, its up there with black FF 10 and 12 and GT4

mejiseike

Also forgot to mention that the sniping controls is one of the WORST controls I have ever played...

It was a little rough gameplay wise but much needed upgrades have been made in the sequels

I remember buying KZ1 on the PS2 6 years back and I gotta say taht I really enjoyed it. I played it recently (because im hyped as hell for KZ3) and I think that it still holds up. it is still a good looking game with god atmosphere. the controls are solid and it has an oldschool feel to it.

I dont understand why it got so much negative feedback and still does today. Yeah KZ2 is better in every single way, but that game did come out 4+ years later. I think the original Killzone is at least on par with the first two halo games.

arbitor365

[QUOTE="arbitor365"]

I remember buying KZ1 on the PS2 6 years back and I gotta say taht I really enjoyed it. I played it recently (because im hyped as hell for KZ3) and I think that it still holds up. it is still a good looking game with god atmosphere. the controls are solid and it has an oldschool feel to it.

I dont understand why it got so much negative feedback and still does today. Yeah KZ2 is better in every single way, but that game did come out 4+ years later. I think the original Killzone is at least on par with the first two halo games.

walkingdream

EDIT: I'M A DUMB@$$

[QUOTE="arbitor365"]

[QUOTE="hearsofironthre"]People hate on killzone 1 because it sucked mitu123

thats all people say. they are just like "it sucks" or "i didnt like it." I have never seen a single person come up with a valid reason why the game was "terrible." not one solitary reason.

your reasons were BS.

I didnt have a problem with the controls at all. maybe all you people who whine about the controls just sucked at the game. it is used as a common excuse these days (examples "prinny" and "bionic commando")

the AI wasnt the best, but it wasnt any worse than most games at the time.

you said that the missions vary in quality. Omg, you mean its like every other FPS game ever made??? in any FPS game some missions are better than others. i didnt find any of the KZ missions to be anywhere approaching bad.

I dunno, it just didn't feel right. Particularly the controls were wonky as hell. The multiplayer was pretty tight, though.

Kz1 is a flawed jem.

Some of the mechanics just were stupid (no JUMP), and the online multiplayer flawed. Also the campaign felt rough.

Though some things were awesome. Like all the weapons having alternative fire, and the ability to pick from a team of 4, who you play. Also the bots

[QUOTE="arbitor365"]

I remember buying KZ1 on the PS2 6 years back and I gotta say taht I really enjoyed it. I played it recently (because im hyped as hell for KZ3) and I think that it still holds up. it is still a good looking game with god atmosphere. the controls are solid and it has an oldschool feel to it.

I dont understand why it got so much negative feedback and still does today. Yeah KZ2 is better in every single way, but that game did come out 4+ years later. I think the original Killzone is at least on par with the first two halo games.

walkingdream

do you realize that anyone else can just as easily review-mine some scores so that halo CE is 7.5/10 and killzone is 10/10? do you see me doing that? no.

heres an idea. how about you present an actual argument, instead of being a blind fanboy ;)

terrible story

crappy controls

boring enemies

terrible AI

annoying characters

need i go on?

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="arbitor365"]

thats all people say. they are just like "it sucks" or "i didnt like it." I have never seen a single person come up with a valid reason why the game was "terrible." not one solitary reason.

arbitor365

your reasons were BS.

I didnt have a problem with the controls at all. maybe all you people who whine about the controls just sucked at the game. it is used as a common excuse these days (examples "prinny" and "bionic commando")

the AI wasnt the best, but it wasnt any worse than most games at the time.

you said that the missions vary in quality. Omg, you mean its like every other FPS game ever made??? in any FPS game some missions are better than others. i didnt find any of the KZ missions to be anywhere approaching bad.

As for A.I., there's good a.i., bad a.i. and there's this game where enemies mindlessly charge at you as you mow them down, enemies that have are unaware of your presence, and sometimes take too long to react to you. That isn't good a.i. at all.

Levels are quite repetitive, poorly designed, boring to play, pacing is off(seriously, I hated that) and there's only a few worthwhile missions, the last mission was done well however. I wanted the game to end so fast because of how the campaign was made.

The plot is good, playing as multiple characters was a nice change of pace and the multiplayer prevents it from being a total waste. However, the campaign wasn't that good. It's not the worst shooter of it's kind, but hardly worth praising about.

Kz1 is a flawed jem.

Some of the mechanics just were stupid (no JUMP), and the online multiplayer flawed. Also the campaign felt rough.

Though some things were awesome. Like all the weapons having alternative fire, and the ability to pick from a team of 4, who you play. Also the bots

dercoo

what would jump have added to KZ1? nothing

in fact, GG put jump in KZ2 and it made no difference anyway. they didn't want jumping while shooting to enter the gameplay so they kept it out, and getting over all obstacles (railings, crates, barricades, etc) could have been handled with a button prompt action. (which is what was in KZ1, with poor reliability. solution is obviously larger windows to get the prompt)