Why do people say halo 3 would not have a 9.5 if it came out this year.

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#1 Threebabycows
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Gamespot says,(don't have a link right now, I am sure someone does)"We compare games to others in the genre on that system and to other platforms"(or something like that). The thing is though is that to have the bar raised, don't you need to atleast tie halo 3's score(As in they enjoyed halo but they said this new game is 9.5, after even comparing to halo, so therefore it is better.. What games in the FPS has scored 9.5 since halo 3's release? I think crysis came out after halo and stalker..(the other FPS' that scored 9.5s or higher.). They also say we take into account the systems capability, so the PS3 and X360 is even more comparable.

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#2 imaps3fanboy
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Kz2 wouldve destroyed it if it came out the same time as Halo 3.

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#3 emorainbo
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If Bungie made a FPS that was only marginally better than Halo 3 it would not score a 9.5. (I dont think Bungie will make a game that is ONLY marginally better im just using an example.)

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#4 MassiveKaos
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LOL Halo 3>>>>>>> Killzone 2.

AND Thats saying alot as i have platinum on Killzone 2, played over 100 hours from the time tracker in the game, have platinum and even the dlc achivements, AND gave it a 9.5 in my ratings.

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#5 Threebabycows
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Kz2 wouldve destroyed it if it came out the same time as Halo 3.

imaps3fanboy

But it only scored 9.0 at the time no console FPS has scored 9.5 or higher since Halo 3 therefore the reviewers didn't think it was a good as halo 3, it would have to score atleast 9.5.

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#6 Threebabycows
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LOL Halo 3>>>>>>> Killzone 2.

AND Thats saying alot as i have platinum on Killzone 2, played over 100 hours from the time tracker in the game, have platinum and even the dlc achivements, AND gave it a 9.5 in my ratings.

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#7 Up2TheBeat
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ano your right, grapical, gameplay and the way the game just feels is ten times that of halo 3
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#8 Abicus7
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Its too bad that KZ2 doesnt have Co-op modes like Halo. Maybe it would have scored higher if it did..

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#9 Threebabycows
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ano your right, grapical, gameplay and the way the game just feels is ten times that of halo 3Up2TheBeat

What are you talking about?

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#10 djsifer01
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People say that because it is a Extremely overrated game. I never will understand why people think halo is so great.
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#11 ujjval16
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That argument doesn't work, if Halo 3 came out now, Bungie would have had 2 extra years for more polish. If they knew it was coming out in 2009 form the start they would have probably even have made a new engine.

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#12 SparkyProtocol
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Kz2 wouldve destroyed it if it came out the same time as Halo 3.

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Cool, I am confident that I'll be able to say the same for Reach destroying KZ2. Even though it would anyways because it is Halo and Halo is the face of MLG and one of the most played online games around.
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#13 imaps3fanboy
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Its too bad that KZ2 doesnt have Co-op modes like Halo. Maybe it would have scored higher if it did..

Abicus7

Agreed. Neither games campaigns were any good. But KZ2 online is much better, no racist 10 year olds. or heavy aim assist..

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People say that because it is a Extremely overrated game. I never will understand why people think halo is so great.djsifer01

Millions disagree, I would explain to why it is popular, if you are willing to accually read it and not just blow it off because you hate the 360.

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#15 SparkyProtocol
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That argument doesn't work, if Halo 3 came out now, Bungie would have had 2 extra years for more polish. If they knew it was coming out in 2009 form the start they would have probably even have made a new engine.

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That is correct!
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#16 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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Lemmings said the same thing about infamous...in less then 2 months after it came out!

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halo 3 could of been the best game ever made, it has the potentail of it. BUT bungie sat on their arse for 3 years and on the 4th they relised oh **** we have a game to make. its not even displayed in a high def resolution, and there are waaay to many jagie edges.
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#18 ujjval16
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People say that because it is a Extremely overrated game. I never will understand why people think halo is so great.djsifer01
I checked Bungie.net, you haven't even played Halo 3 online, which many would say is the best part.

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Because it makes their 9.0's look comparable. Halo 3 is the cream of the crop when it comes to console FPS's, but many like to ignore the popular and dig their little niche.

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#20 Threebabycows
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[QUOTE="Abicus7"]

Its too bad that KZ2 doesnt have Co-op modes like Halo. Maybe it would have scored higher if it did..

imaps3fanboy

Agreed. Neither games campaigns were any good. But KZ2 online is much better, no racist 10 year olds. or heavy aim assist..

I disagree about the online part, there are really not that many "10 year olds", nor racist, but more are on XBL because people have more mics, it is that simple. The aim assist isn't really that heavy.

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#21 emorainbo
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People say that because it is a Extremely overrated game. I never will understand why people think halo is so great.djsifer01
Overrated basically means lots of people like it, and some dont... I hate this term, PLEASE CENSOR IT GAMESPOT!!

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#22 SparkyProtocol
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halo 3 could of been the best game ever made, it has the potentail of it. BUT bungie sat on their arse for 3 years and on the 4th they relised oh **** we have a game to make. its not even displayed in a high def resolution, and there are waaay to many jagie edges.Up2TheBeat
Cool, ODST is using an even more polished and updated Halo 2 engine. Who knows how good Reach will look with its new engine, they obviously have something special in the works if they are making a new one.
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#23 MassiveKaos
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[QUOTE="MassiveKaos"]

LOL Halo 3>>>>>>> Killzone 2.

AND Thats saying alot as i have platinum on Killzone 2, played over 100 hours from the time tracker in the game, have platinum and even the dlc achivements, AND gave it a 9.5 in my ratings.

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Do you play the MLg playlist 43 in the MLG playlist right now BTW, I think.

Thats the only thing i play =) and thats why halo 3 is better than kz2. That battle rifle is like sex.

GTs: Planet Beatbox(50 mlg but got deranked to 49), DKF Chaos,( 25 in one week) DK So Siick(one im using atm)(14 or 15 but ratio is like 1.4 from strictly mlg)

Not playing right now tho too busy with keeping up with the event in dallas.

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#24 Threebabycows
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That argument doesn't work, if Halo 3 came out now, Bungie would have had 2 extra years for more polish. If they knew it was coming out in 2009 form the start they would have probably even have made a new engine.

ujjval16

It works in the lemming favor funny enough due to the fact that no console FPS has matched halo, therefore the bar hasn't been raised since 2007, sadly.

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#25 ujjval16
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halo 3 could of been the best game ever made, it has the potentail of it. BUT bungie sat on their arse for 3 years and on the 4th they relised oh **** we have a game to make. its not even displayed in a high def resolution, and there are waaay to many jagie edges.Up2TheBeat
You see it that way, I see it as Bungie has proved that a game can be amazing without amazing graphics.

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#26 Threebabycows
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[QUOTE="Threebabycows"][QUOTE="MassiveKaos"]

LOL Halo 3>>>>>>> Killzone 2.

AND Thats saying alot as i have platinum on Killzone 2, played over 100 hours from the time tracker in the game, have platinum and even the dlc achivements, AND gave it a 9.5 in my ratings.

MassiveKaos

Do you play the MLg playlist 43 in the MLG playlist right now BTW, I think.

Thats the only thing i play =) and thats why halo 3 is better than kz2. That battle rifle is like sex.

GTs: Planet Beatbox(50 mlg but got deranked to 49), DKF Chaos,( 25 in one week) DK So Siick(one im using atm)(14 or 15 but ratio is like 1.4 from strictly mlg)

Not playing right now tho too busy with keeping up with the event in dallas.

Did you watch dallas last night? Also cool, the battle rifle= OWNAGE. But with a game like halo, unless you play it extensivly people will never see why it is so fun, it is shallow and deep at the sametime. To the people who say halo 3 takes no skill I laugh at you.

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#27 RedruM_I
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Kz2 wouldve destroyed it if it came out the same time as Halo 3.

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This.
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#28 Threebabycows
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[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"]

Kz2 wouldve destroyed it if it came out the same time as Halo 3.

RedruM_I

This.

It "only" scored 9.0 so it did not... no console FPS has scored 9.5 since halo so that means halo was the last game to raise the bar.

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#29 Abicus7
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[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"]

Kz2 wouldve destroyed it if it came out the same time as Halo 3.

RedruM_I

This.

Im not so sure, I still think its the co-op modes that give halo 3 the edge. This is from a pure cow.

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#30 playharderfool
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That argument doesn't work, if Halo 3 came out now, Bungie would have had 2 extra years for more polish. If they knew it was coming out in 2009 form the start they would have probably even have made a new engine.

ujjval16

you mean like OSDT comming out later this year?

It could be argued that if Killzone 2 had never been made that Bungie wouldn't even be trying to buff up a new graphics engine for their next..next game.

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#31 ujjval16
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[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"]

Kz2 wouldve destroyed it if it came out the same time as Halo 3.

RedruM_I

This.

How? Killzone 2 came out in 2009 and it still doesn't destroy Halo 3, and you guys are saying if Killzone 2 came out in 2007 it would have?

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#32 C-Lee
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Halo 3 is a 9.5
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[QUOTE="Up2TheBeat"]halo 3 could of been the best game ever made, it has the potentail of it. BUT bungie sat on their arse for 3 years and on the 4th they relised oh **** we have a game to make. its not even displayed in a high def resolution, and there are waaay to many jagie edges.ujjval16

You see it that way, I see it as Bungie has proved that a game can be amazing without amazing graphics.

That is what I would say as well, Halo being a humongous success is undeniable. At least while remaining rational. Even with some jaggies it is one of the most played games this gen.
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#34 MassiveKaos
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[QUOTE="MassiveKaos"]

[QUOTE="Threebabycows"] Do you play the MLg playlist 43 in the MLG playlist right now BTW, I think.Threebabycows

Thats the only thing i play =) and thats why halo 3 is better than kz2. That battle rifle is like sex.

GTs: Planet Beatbox(50 mlg but got deranked to 49), DKF Chaos,( 25 in one week) DK So Siick(one im using atm)(14 or 15 but ratio is like 1.4 from strictly mlg)

Not playing right now tho too busy with keeping up with the event in dallas.

Did you watch dallas last night? Also cool, the battle rifle= OWNAGE. But with a game like ahlo, unless you play it extensivly people will never see why it is so fun, it is shallow and deep at the sametime. To the people who say halo 3 takes no skill I laugh at you.

Been trying to watch it but for some reason it wont stream on my computer. But yeah because of the battle rifle halo definitely requires the most skill of any shooter. Play a 1v1 one with anybody thats good and it wont matter if you average 25 kills a team slayer with the assault rifle or dual smg ect you will struggle to get ONE in a battle rifle 1v1.

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#35 RedruM_I
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[QUOTE="RedruM_I"][QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"]

Kz2 wouldve destroyed it if it came out the same time as Halo 3.

Threebabycows

This.

It "only" scored 9.0 so it did not... no console FPS has scored 9.5 since halo so that means halo was the last game to raise the bar.

Yea but the time under which the game is released is also important. When Halo 3 was released there were not enough good games for comparison so it will relatively seem like a better game but not if compared now.
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#36 ujjval16
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[QUOTE="ujjval16"]

That argument doesn't work, if Halo 3 came out now, Bungie would have had 2 extra years for more polish. If they knew it was coming out in 2009 form the start they would have probably even have made a new engine.

playharderfool

you mean like OSDT comming out later this year?

It could be argued that if Killzone 2 had never been made that Bungie wouldn't even be trying to buff up a new graphics engine for their next..next game.

What? I'm sorry but can you please clarrify what you are trying to say there?

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#37 gamer620
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People say that because it is a Extremely overrated game. I never will understand why people think halo is so great.djsifer01
Despite Halo's issues (and they do exist), it is what a video game should be. A fully featured product that is extremely well polished and offers a variety of things for the user to do and experience. If half the games that came out today were as fully featured as Halo, the gaming industry wouldn't be trying to rebuild itself off the Wii but instead we get massive games with huge budgets that at best only allow a brief single player package with a multiplayer component and little beyond this point. Halo 3 and SSB:B are two fantastic examples of what games SHOULD be. Both games have their problems, but they both feature SO MUCH for the user to experience. These are the kinds of games people should get when they pay 60 dollars.
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#38 Threebabycows
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[QUOTE="ujjval16"]

[QUOTE="Up2TheBeat"]halo 3 could of been the best game ever made, it has the potentail of it. BUT bungie sat on their arse for 3 years and on the 4th they relised oh **** we have a game to make. its not even displayed in a high def resolution, and there are waaay to many jagie edges.Shhadow_Viper

You see it that way, I see it as Bungie has proved that a game can be amazing without amazing graphics.

That is what I would say as well, Halo being a humongous success is undeniable. At least while remaining rational. Even with some jaggies it is one of the most played games this gen.

Halo is the only game still being talked about because of its gameplay as well.. What happened to Uncharted 1, GEOW 1/2, and soon to be KZ2 after a game beat them(graphically) they stopped getting talked about... Crysis is only talked about because of its graphics(not saying it is a bad game but come on admit it... many PC gamers like STALKER more, but it doesn't get talked about nearly as often)

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[QUOTE="RedruM_I"][QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"]

Kz2 wouldve destroyed it if it came out the same time as Halo 3.

ujjval16

This.

How? Killzone 2 came out in 2009 and it still doesn't destroy Halo 3, and you guys are saying if Killzone 2 came out in 2007 it would have?

idk, yeah, killzone isnt really all that awesome. Sure technically its amazing, which if it came out in 07 might have given it an edge, but its just not all that much fun. Halo imo is still alot more fun than killzone

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#40 Threebabycows
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[QUOTE="Threebabycows"]

[QUOTE="RedruM_I"] This.RedruM_I

It "only" scored 9.0 so it did not... no console FPS has scored 9.5 since halo so that means halo was the last game to raise the bar.

Yea but the time under which the game is released is also important. When Halo 3 was released there were not enough good games for comparison so it will relatively seem like a better game but not if compared now.

I already addressed that, for the bar to be raised a game that is an FPS would have to tie/beat halo 3s score and no console game and only 2 PC games have does this.

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#41 djsifer01
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[QUOTE="djsifer01"]People say that because it is a Extremely overrated game. I never will understand why people think halo is so great.Threebabycows

Millions disagree, I would explain to why it is popular, if you are willing to accually read it and not just blow it off because you hate the 360.

I dont hate the 360, if i did i would not own one. I have played both halo 1 and 2 and they were not that great.
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#42 Threebabycows
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[QUOTE="Threebabycows"]

[QUOTE="djsifer01"]People say that because it is a Extremely overrated game. I never will understand why people think halo is so great.djsifer01

Millions disagree, I would explain to why it is popular, if you are willing to accually read it and not just blow it off because you hate the 360.

I dont hate the 360, if i did i would not own one. I have played both halo 1 and 2 and they were not that great.

Well you have an extreme case of bias toward the PS3.. Also, if you want to know why PM me.

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#43 G-O-M-J
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How can standards be higher when there hasnt been a single fps that has scored 9.5 or higher since halo 3..
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#44 Threebabycows
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How can standards be higher when there hasnt been a single fps that has scored 9.5 or higher since halo 3..G-O-M-J

That is what I said..

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#45 skrat_01
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It wouldn't have. Not a chance really. Even the 9.5 score in my opinion was steep on release.
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#46 skrat_01
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How can standards be higher when there hasnt been a single fps that has scored 9.5 or higher since halo 3..G-O-M-J
Because it still counts as a title on the platform, weighing down on all other respective titles.
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[QUOTE="G-O-M-J"]How can standards be higher when there hasnt been a single fps that has scored 9.5 or higher since halo 3..skrat_01
Because it still counts as a title on the platform, weighing down on all other respective titles.

Therefore, the bar, that is halo is weighing it down.

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[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"]

Kz2 wouldve destroyed it if it came out the same time as Halo 3.

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Cool, I am confident that I'll be able to say the same for Reach destroying KZ2. Even though it would anyways because it is Halo and Halo is the face of MLG and one of the most played online games around.

Lol, you do know that MAG is going to beat the living sh*t out of Halo, right?
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#49 abuabed
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Its too bad that KZ2 doesnt have Co-op modes like Halo. Maybe it would have scored higher if it did..

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Yeah, KZ3 must have co-op modes, it would be a lot better.
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#50 Threebabycows
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[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"]

Kz2 wouldve destroyed it if it came out the same time as Halo 3.

Demons-Souls

Cool, I am confident that I'll be able to say the same for Reach destroying KZ2. Even though it would anyways because it is Halo and Halo is the face of MLG and one of the most played online games around.

Lol, you do know that MAG is going to beat the living sh*t out of Halo, right?