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#1 LOXO7
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Elite 120gb: 400 + (controllers 50x3) + wifi 100 + (racing wheel 100x4) + (wireless headset 60x3) + remote 20 = $1,250 + blu ray ($150)

PS3 160gb: 500 + (controllers 54x3) + wifi 0 + (racing wheel 77x4) + (wireless headset 50x4) + remote 25 = $1,195 + BC ($100)

Elite doesn't have a HD player($150). PS3 doesn't have BC($100). With these added the Elite is $105 more than the PS3. What do you think?

http://www.bestbuy.com/

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#2 ActicEdge
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I want to play games and I don't want to pay $400 dollars to do it. Sony remedies this situation and I stop complaining, until then, yeah its too much to justify its purchase in my opinion.

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#3 Sir_Lawl
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Becauseit's an overpriced console that isn't as good as the 360.

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#4 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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Because some feel that the price doesn't warrant what games it currently offers.

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#5 Legendaryscmt
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Because many people don't need useless accessories that people always try to tack onto consoles when comparing them.

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#6 samuraiguns
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Wi-Fi is useless?

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#7 cainetao11
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[QUOTE="LOXO7"]

Elite 120gb: 400 + (controllers 50x3) + wifi 100 + (racing wheel 100x4) + (wireless headset 60x3) + remote 20 = $1,250+ blu ray ($150)

PS3 160gb: 500 + (controllers 54x3) + wifi 0 + (racing wheel 77x4) + (wireless headset 50x4) + remote 25 = $1,195+ BC ($100)

Elite doesn't have a HD player($150). PS3 doesn't have BC($100). With these added the Elite is $105 more than the PS3. What do you think?

http://www.bestbuy.com/

The problem as always with these comparisons is that none of the add ons are necessities. You don't need a wireless headset. The wire plugs into the 360 controller......How long is your torso? Some people, I'd wager most of the average people, just want play games, quick and easily. $400 is more than $200. Some people just want to game like they did on the PS2 with current gen graphics. 360 gives you that choice.
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#8 adizorz
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you should also add 6*50 for xboxlive

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#9 LOXO7
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The problem as always with these comparisons is that none of the add ons are necessities. You don't need a wireless headset. The wire plugs into the 360 controller......How long is your torso? Some people, I'd wager most of the average people, just want play games, quick and easily. $400 is more than $200. Some people just want to game like they did on the PS2 with current gen graphics. 360 gives you that choice.cainetao11
So Live ($50yr get your 13th year free) isnt a necessity or a hard drive($150)? And some people want to buy the add ons. There is no problem with a price comparison using add ons. The only thing you see wrong with it is 360 being more money.

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#10 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="cainetao11"]The problem as always with these comparisons is that none of the add ons are necessities. You don't need a wireless headset. The wire plugs into the 360 controller......How long is your torso? Some people, I'd wager most of the average people, just want play games, quick and easily. $400 is more than $200. Some people just want to game like they did on the PS2 with current gen graphics. 360 gives you that choice.LOXO7

So Live ($50yr get your 13th year free) isnt a necessity or a hard drive($150)? And some people want to buy the add ons. There is no problem with a price comparison using add ons. The only thing you see wrong with it is 360 being more money.

:| No. The problem is like he said, you don't have to buy add ons. I personally am not buying Live if I get a 360 and I'm not buying a bigger harddrive either so why exactly do I care about them? "What if's" are nice but when it comes to buying systems, they are useless since mine isn't the same as another persons. That's why we don't compare price with add ons, the last part was just a weak cheapshot as well.

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Elite 120gb: 400 + (controllers 50x3) + wifi 100 + (racing wheel 100x4) + (wireless headset 60x3) + remote 20 = $1,250 + blu ray ($150)

PS3 160gb: 500 + (controllers 54x3) + wifi 0 + (racing wheel 77x4) + (wireless headset 50x4) + remote 25 = $1,195 + BC ($100)

Elite doesn't have a HD player($150). PS3 doesn't have BC($100). With these added the Elite is $105 more than the PS3. What do you think?

http://www.bestbuy.com/

LOXO7

Ok, I don't need wifi, so knock that off the 360's list. I only need one controller and no wheel, so knock those off the list. I don't need a Blu-Ray player, so knock that off the list as well. I don't buy the remotes because the controller is good enough so that comes off the list. I also only need one headset, so that comes off. Ok now that that is done, lets talk. ;) Funny thing it, I want a PS3, not a 360, but the PS3's price is to high for one reason. Because people don't care about half or all of the things that makes the PS3 cost more and don't/didn't buy it for their 360 if they have one. I know if it was up to me, I would have wifi and Blu-Ray removed if it was possible (wifi is, but Blu-Ray isn't) and would drop the price. So people think the PS3 is to high because they couldn't care less for the feature that have the price hiked up like it is.

I can't wait until I get another PS3.

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#12 johnlennon28
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um, maybe because they want one but they cant afford it, yea I think thats the general reason
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#13 AgentA-Mi6
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Dont look at me, I got My Ps3 shortly after launch, yes for 600 bucks :P
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#14 mitu123
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I'm confused too, sales don't matter yet a price drop does, something isn't right.

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#15 Silverbond
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Because it does?

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#16 Shafftehr
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... racing wheels? Really? I think all you're proving (and even that's a stretch) is that the PS3 needs a price cut and that the Elite isn't worth the money. The pity for Sony is that the XBOX 360 Elite isn't the model that's cleaning their clocks...
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#17 Redonkulous_D
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Just because you're getting more than what you pay for, it doesn't mean you're not paying $400. With the 360, you can get a system just for gaming for $200. The PS3's only option is a $400 model. You have to pay for everything whether or not you want it.

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#18 Trinners
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why don't people just goto craigslist and buy a ps3 for $250?

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#19 Chaos_HL21
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Wi-Fi is useless?

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Well for me it is. My Wireless router isn't that powerful and my PS3, 360, Wii are not that close to it. So yeah it is kinda useless, and wired connections are better.

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#20 ocelot562
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People have all types of reasons. Why do feel the need to compare the two, when bringing up this subject?

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#21 stereointegrity
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Becauseit's an overpriced console that isn't as good as the 360.

Sir_Lawl
and what makes it not as good as the 360?
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#22 foxhound_fox
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No game console should cost more than $300. Ever. Going beyond that is PC territory.

But since consoles are trying so hard to be PC's, its no problem to see why they are beginning to cost so much.

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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="LOXO7"]

The problem as always with these comparisons is that none of the add ons are necessities. You don't need a wireless headset. The wire plugs into the 360 controller......How long is your torso? Some people, I'd wager most of the average people, just want play games, quick and easily. $400 is more than $200. Some people just want to game like they did on the PS2 with current gen graphics. 360 gives you that choice.cainetao11
So Live ($50yr get your 13th year free) isnt a necessity or a hard drive($150)? And some people want to buy the add ons. There is no problem with a price comparison using add ons. The only thing you see wrong with it is 360 being more money.

:| No. The problem is like he said, you don't have to buy add ons. I personally am not buying Live if I get a 360 and I'm not buying a bigger harddrive either so why exactly do I care about them? "What if's" are nice but when it comes to buying systems, they are useless since mine isn't the same as another persons. That's why we don't compare price with add ons, the last part was just a weak cheapshot as well.

well since i do want the add ons the nthe comparison is fair, ur not the only gamer in the world, its different for everyone, the comparison is not right or wrong
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#24 winner-ps3
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[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

[QUOTE="samuraiguns"]

Wi-Fi is useless?

Well for me it is. My Wireless router isn't that powerful and my PS3, 360, Wii are not that close to it. So yeah it is kinda useless, and wired connections are better.

wreless is perfectly great, my ps3 is close enough to have it wired but i leave it wireless, i notice no difference at all, and i have no lag issues, even when i move my ps3 downstairs, wifi just as good as wired
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#25 cool_beans1
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You forgot to add two games to Sony's list because Elite's come with Halo 3 and Fable 2 ($40 each retail) ;).

Edit: And why did you add4 racing wheels to the mix? My answer: just to boost the cost for 360 saying it costs more.

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#26 St_muscat
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Mainly because PS3 is in 3rd place in terms of sales, that's why we think it needs a price cut.

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#27 agturboninja
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The PS3 needs a price cut because it is too expensive.

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#28 LOXO7
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Everyone keeps saying this. $200 to $400? If someone doesn't do their homework, the 200 dollar system is going to cost you more, if you plan on gaming. And you can't play all parts of the game. Why do people bring up the Arcade when their own play style is so much different than what "options" you have on the Arcade? Because the price less to prove me wrong... pfft. You are speaking for someone that games totally different than you. And that is excatly what I am doing! ...But I am the one who's wrong...:?

Options! Sony doesn't give you options? I like MS option: that you have to spend $100 for wifi. What is Sonys price for wifi? Oops, my mistake. They don't give you that option because it's not at a set price. That's the only "option" MS gives.. isn't it? Oh BC! But that's really not an option as you say because it comes with all 360's. so cross that one out. HD Dvd was an option. The worst option that MS gives is the Arcade. Nobody that's a gamer is going to look into one of those. So really on a gaming website it really doesn't belong.

If people could stop saying "you" in a sentance with $200 or Arcade, that would be great. Because it doesn't aply to anyone here (gamers). If we instead could change the "you" to "Not the smartest casual ever" or something along those words, I think everyone would agree.

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#29 Gxgear
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Because every lemming owns an arcade 360, so $200 > $400.

Who needs yearly XBL gold or HDD or WiFi anyways? :roll:

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#30 Shafftehr
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Because every lemming owns an arcade 360, so $200 > $400.

Who needs yearly XBL gold or HDD or WiFi anyways? :roll:

Gxgear
Seems only fair that Lemmings claim "every Lemmings owns an Arcade" since the OP didn't consider anything but the Elite in his comparison ;) Go figure, Lemmings consider nothing but the most favourable seeming case, cows consider nothing but the least favourable, and everybody conveniently ignores the happy middle ground that most people actually own..
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#31 goblaa
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Yay, it's this weeks "add a bunch of extra crap to 360 to make it look more exspenive" thread!

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#32 deactivated-5e7be39d87e0b
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Seems only fair that Lemmings claim "every Lemmings owns an Arcade" since the OP didn't consider anything but the Elite in his comparison ;) Go figure, Lemmings consider nothing but the most favourable seeming case, cows consider nothing but the least favourable, and everybody conveniently ignores the happy middle ground that most people actually own..Shafftehr

But that would derail this argument and we can't have that, no sir!!

*Goes to Best Buy to buy 176 Racing wheels and 83 headsets*

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#33 X360PS3AMD05
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Because even though it's a better value people just see $200 vs. $400.
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#34 Sir_Lawl
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[QUOTE="Sir_Lawl"]

Becauseit's an overpriced console that isn't as good as the 360.

stereointegrity

and what makes it not as good as the 360?

An inferior library of games and online service. :)

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#35 Z0MBIES
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[QUOTE="stereointegrity"][QUOTE="Sir_Lawl"]

Becauseit's an overpriced console that isn't as good as the 360.

Sir_Lawl

and what makes it not as good as the 360?

An inferior library of games and online service. :)

You've got to give this Sir_Lawl guy props, he's very effective at finding these kinds of threads. On topic, it's simply because most people, like myself, want one, but don't want to/don't have $400 lying around to spend on a console.
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#36 X360PS3AMD05
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$300 is the sweet spot, then Sony should make it known what a better value it is and include a HDMI cable for christ sake!
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#37 nethernova
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Wi-Fi is useless?

samuraiguns
Of course it is. You pay extra to make your connection worse. Wired is faster and more reliable. It just is.
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#38 Gxgear
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[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

Because every lemming owns an arcade 360, so $200 > $400.

Who needs yearly XBL gold or HDD or WiFi anyways? :roll:

Shafftehr

Seems only fair that Lemmings claim "every Lemmings owns an Arcade" since the OP didn't consider anything but the Elite in his comparison ;) Go figure, Lemmings consider nothing but the most favourable seeming case, cows consider nothing but the least favourable, and everybody conveniently ignores the happy middle ground that most people actually own..

PS3 and 360 elite has the most comparable features out of thebox. Even in the most 360 favourable situation (cheaperst one for each console), the 360 eventually catches up in yearly expense of XBL gold alone.

Most favourable? I think not. It just seems that way because of the results. Feel free to suggest a "happy middle ground".

It's sad to see lemmings arguing about this using the viewpoint of the most uneducated portion of the gaming community, and unquestionably embrace it despite its flaws.

Bottom line is, $400 is too much for people to afford in one purchase, not many people see consoles as investments (which they are) and are unable to look ahead in the future for possible additional expenses. Common pitfall for the average consumer, and M$ exploits it masterfully.

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[QUOTE="Sir_Lawl"]

Becauseit's an overpriced console that isn't as good as the 360.

Even at 299, the pro 360 is overpriced. Paying to play online is a joke too.
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#40 Verge_6
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wifi just as good as wiredwinner-ps3
In the words of Phil Ken Sebben "Ha ha HA...nyet."
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#41 TBoogy
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To the people trying to nullify the exsistence of the 360 Arcade model:

There is nothing wrong with that system. If you are a young gamer (like my teenage Godson) who is not going to game online, is not going to buy movies from LIVE Marketplace, then the Arcade is perfect for you. It comes with a memory card, so you can save games. It plays the games. It is a fine choice. Or goto thge pawn shop and get a 20gb model for $189.99 like I saw recently near me in Chicago. Either way, MS was smart. A model for people who are not really interested in online gaming, a model for those that are, and a model for those (like me) who will buy lots of movies from the marketplace as well.

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#42 X360PS3AMD05
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How much space do a few demos take up? Eventually i may just get an arcade, there are only a few games i missed out with my PS3/PC combo, plus it's less of a blow if it does die.
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#43 StealthKnife
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Elite 120gb: 400 + (controllers 50x3) + wifi 100 + (racing wheel 100x4) + (wireless headset 60x3) + remote 20 = $1,250 + blu ray ($150)

PS3 160gb: 500 + (controllers 54x3) + wifi 0 + (racing wheel 77x4) + (wireless headset 50x4) + remote 25 = $1,195 + BC ($100)

Elite doesn't have a HD player($150). PS3 doesn't have BC($100). With these added the Elite is $105 more than the PS3. What do you think?

http://www.bestbuy.com/

LOXO7
and the ps3 has 40+ GB
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#44 Shoooryuken
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Because it's overpriced. Nothing on PS3 justifies that Price. You can just buy a 360 and get similiar gameplay. Crap on PS3 Exclusives.. Just get 360 Exclusives and awesome Multiplats for half the price lol...
Elite 120gb: 400 + (controllers 50x3) + wifi 100 + (racing wheel 100x4) + (wireless headset 60x3) + remote 20 = $1,250 + blu ray ($150)LOXO7
I lol'd.
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#45 DonPerian
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Sure, it's got value - but it's still expensive. It's the most expensive gaming console.
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#46 full_disclosure
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why don't people just goto craigslist and buy a ps3 for $250?

Trinners

Though I generally don't like used electronics. I have been considering this more and more. I swear if I do it and it's not close to mint condition heads will freakin roll!

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#47 Mystery_Writer
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fine, PS3 is cheaper.. hope that helps :)

360 needs a price cut in this case :P

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#48 JasonDarksavior
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Becauseit's an overpriced console that isn't as good as the 360.

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In what ways?

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#49 full_disclosure
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[QUOTE="Sir_Lawl"]

Becauseit's an overpriced console that isn't as good as the 360.

JasonDarksavior

In what ways?

Why is it offensive to you that he has that opinion? He's probably just trolling to rile up some fanboys anyway!

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Becasue not everyone is interested in Blu-Ray, plays online (or prefer the yearly fees rather than paying more at once) or does not need Wi-Fi.