Why do sales matter to you so called "gamers" here on system wars.

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#1 CleanNJerk
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Any logical reason aside from sticking it to the man & flame bait? Do tell. EDIT: I meant on this forum in particular. Where sales are used as an argument instead of a discussion. Call me a noob but I haven't seen this crap in the other forums in GS.
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#2 Miyuki-Chan
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Because so called "gamers" care.

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#3 lowe0
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Sure. Read up on Metcalfe's Law. Or, to save you a trip to Wikipedia, the more of "our" consoles are sold, the more people we'll have to play against online, the more developers will want to release games for the platform, etc..
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#4 treedoor
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Why shouldn't they?

Any true gamer probably has a favorite game that never got a sequel because it didn't sell well enough.

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#5 II-FBIsniper-II
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More sales=more games.
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#6 SolidTy
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Sales can bring sequels...but as far as GAMERS comparing Wii Fit Sales to Halo 3 sales, or whatever, that's pointless.

Comparing Wii sales to 360 and PS3 sales is pointless as well. IT's about chest thumping...for another company.

Heck, Sports are pointless when you really think about it.

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#7 pakman3000
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It's a natural fanboy evolution. This gen isn't as lopsided as last gen. There is actual competition and Sony has fallen from grace.

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#8 PannicAtack
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Well, it's difficult to argue specifically about quality when alot of the people here don't own/play all the consoles/games. So sales and ratings are something we can use in stead of actual discussion.
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#9 Yandere
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I only care about sales when I want people to support a smaller developer.

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#10 CleanNJerk
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I mean "Why do sales matter to you so called "gamers"?" here on System Wars. Isn't obvious all you guys do is talk about sales to manipulate your arguments against consoles? I find it ridiculous!
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#11 bronxxbombers
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Why do level 3s have to come in here and question the unwritten rules of SWs?
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#12 captain_diego
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Why shouldn't they?

Any true gamer probably has a favorite game that never got a sequel because it didn't sell well enough.

treedoor
i think he's referring to the threads that point out how one multiplatform game sold better on their favorite console, and they way they boast about it.
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#13 Yandere
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I mean "Why do sales matter to you so called "gamers"?" here on System Wars. Isn't obvious all you guys do is talk about sales to manipulate your arguments against consoles? I find it ridiculous!CleanNJerk

I rather you say "vocal minority" majority.

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Why do level 3s have to come in here and question the unwritten rules of SWs?bronxxbombers
Well, level 3 is "Mediator."

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#15 II-FBIsniper-II
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I mean "Why do sales matter to you so called "gamers"?" here on System Wars. Isn't obvious all you guys do is talk about sales to manipulate your arguments against consoles? I find it ridiculous!CleanNJerk
Along with being a discussion board, SW is also a game. The people who like talking about sales either like analyzing those types of things or are contributing to the SW game.
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#16 randomwiiplayer
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If it sells well it is most likely a good system, more people want it. I'm not saying PS3 is bad, that is mostly a price issue.

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#17 CleanNJerk
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Sales can bring sequels...but as far as GAMERS comparing Wii Fit Sales to Halo 3 sales, or whatever, that's pointless.

Comparing Wii sales to 360 and PS3 sales is pointless as well. IT's about chest thumping...for another company.

Heck, Sports are pointless when you really think about it.

SolidTy
They are not pointless.Our health benefits physically & mentally from sports.
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#18 Phaze-Two
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they don't.

ps3 has the lowest sales and the best games console-wise the past two years...

wii is the best selling and has the worst games console-wise this gen...

go figure.

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#19 FunkyHeadHunter
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When was the last time you seen a turbographx16,Sega,or Atari console in the stores? That is why sales matter. Sales matter to all of us no matter what anyone thinks. Really kind of a dumb question and im from the old school world of..."there are no dumb questions".

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#20 whatisazerg
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no sales = no gaming

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#21 CleanNJerk
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Why do level 3s have to come in here and question the unwritten rules of SWs?bronxxbombers
Why do level 9's believe they are better than a level 3's. You can't consider yourself better than another human being. That's immoral. You have no more human rights than I do buddy.
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#22 Phaze-Two
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no sales = no gaming

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what about free games?

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#23 BuryMe
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More sales=more games.II-FBIsniper-II
Well said.

Consoles that don't sell as well as the competition have trouble gaining 3rd party support. Or if they get the support, the games tend to become multiplats (see Resident Evil 4 or Final Fantasy XIII.)

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#24 Brownesque
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I care about sales. They give money to the people who manufacture the consoles and make the games and give them large installed bases to justify the porting of games or even exclusive releases. They're a huge deal in system wars. The thing is, though, that all of this system warring itself is counterproductive in some ways to gaming as an art form. Although, you could look at it as another form of capitalistic competition and therefore a good thing for the industry.
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[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"]Why do level 3s have to come in here and question the unwritten rules of SWs?CleanNJerk
Why do level 9's believe they are better than a level 3's. You can't consider yourself better than another human being. That's immoral. You have no more human rights than I do buddy.

No, what I'm saying is, your new. You dont get SWs yet. It makes no sense. Its not supposed to buddy. If you dont like, then leave. Dont make threads whining about how you dont like how we do stuff. Buddy.
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#26 djsifer01
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I dont care, i play games not sales. Most people on this board think some how that sales is what make a console the best.
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'Tis ammo ofcourse. That's all.
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#28 randomwiiplayer
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[QUOTE="CleanNJerk"][QUOTE="bronxxbombers"]Why do level 3s have to come in here and question the unwritten rules of SWs?bronxxbombers
Why do level 9's believe they are better than a level 3's. You can't consider yourself better than another human being. That's immoral. You have no more human rights than I do buddy.

No, what I'm saying is, your new. You dont get SWs yet. It makes no sense. Its not supposed to buddy. If you dont like, then leave. Dont make threads whining about how you dont like how we do stuff. Buddy.

Lol'd at your mocking.

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#29 CleanNJerk
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[QUOTE="Brownesque"]I care about sales. They give money to the people who manufacture the consoles and make the games and give them large installed bases to justify the porting of games or even exclusive releases. They're a huge deal in system wars. The thing is, though, that all of this system warring itself is counterproductive in some ways to gaming as an art form. Although, you could look at it as another form of capitalistic competition and therefore a good thing for the industry.

I do agree that's it benefits the industry, but I haven't seen real discussions such as these arise on System Wars. More like just a bunch of fanboys. Know what i'm sayin? That is counter productive.
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#30 W1ckedGo0se
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Sales matter to us in the long run indirectly because If a Companies game fail to sell they have less obligation to work there best to release a game that won't sell which would then limit the quality of the game we get as gamers...
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#31 Phaze-Two
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[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"]More sales=more games.BuryMe

Well said.

Consoles that don't sell as well as the competition have trouble gaining 3rd party support. Or if they get the support, the games tend to become multiplats (see Resident Evil 4 or Final Fantasy XIII.)

that's not true this gen. though... wii is having the most trouble getting quality 3rd party support, it doesn't even get that many multiplats.

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#32 thinicer
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Sales matter because fanboys will be fanboys.

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#33 CleanNJerk
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[QUOTE="CleanNJerk"][QUOTE="bronxxbombers"]Why do level 3s have to come in here and question the unwritten rules of SWs?bronxxbombers
Why do level 9's believe they are better than a level 3's. You can't consider yourself better than another human being. That's immoral. You have no more human rights than I do buddy.

No, what I'm saying is, your new. You dont get SWs yet. It makes no sense. Its not supposed to buddy. If you dont like, then leave. Dont make threads whining about how you dont like how we do stuff. Buddy.

BUDDY... I ain't whining. It's just a fact i've noticed that the System Wars community is counter productive & doesn't encourage newcomers to join in conversations.. Ala "bronxxbombers". & I will not leave, & that's exactly what it's about, you obviously think you are better than lesser levels here by your current claims, I have every right to be posting topics here just as you do posting comments in my threads. Bucko.
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#34 Zaibach
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I dont know. I for one cant stand sakes!!

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#35 nintendoboy16
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The only reason why I care for it is to keep the gaming industry alive. I don't claim ownage or anything, I just care to keep games alive.
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#36 goblaa
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Consoles with high software sales get taken more seriously by publishers and get more support and good games.

Games with good sales turn a profit and encourage publishers to make more games in the series.

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#38 CleanNJerk
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[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"][QUOTE="CleanNJerk"][QUOTE="bronxxbombers"] No, what I'm saying is, your new. You dont get SWs yet. It makes no sense. Its not supposed to buddy. If you dont like, then leave. Dont make threads whining about how you dont like how we do stuff. Buddy.

BUDDY... I ain't whining. It's just a fact i've noticed that the System Wars community is counter productive & doesn't encourage newcomers to join in conversations.. Ala "bronxxbombers". & I will not leave, & that's exactly what it's about, you obviously think you are better than lesser levels here by your current claims, I have every right to be posting topics here just as you do posting comments in my threads. Bucko.

Umm, Buddy, I never said you have no rights. I said, that this is how system wars works. It wont change. You wont change it. So instead of asking why, you just go with it. It makes no sense here buddy. Live with it buddy. Or leave buddy. Take your pick buddy. There is no such thing as productive in system wars. Newcomers arent encouraged, buddy, because, like you buddy, they make threads like this, buddy, and dont generally understand how it works here Buddy.

Wow buddy, you sure are a mess.. No offense.
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[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"][QUOTE="CleanNJerk"]BUDDY... I ain't whining. It's just a fact i've noticed that the System Wars community is counter productive & doesn't encourage newcomers to join in conversations.. Ala "bronxxbombers". & I will not leave, & that's exactly what it's about, you obviously think you are better than lesser levels here by your current claims, I have every right to be posting topics here just as you do posting comments in my threads. Bucko.CleanNJerk
Umm, Buddy, I never said you have no rights. I said, that this is how system wars works. It wont change. You wont change it. So instead of asking why, you just go with it. It makes no sense here buddy. Live with it buddy. Or leave buddy. Take your pick buddy. There is no such thing as productive in system wars. Newcomers arent encouraged, buddy, because, like you buddy, they make threads like this, buddy, and dont generally understand how it works here Buddy.

Wow buddy, you sure are a mess.. No offense.

No buddy, I believe you just got messed up. System Wars style. Buddy. ;)
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#40 II-FBIsniper-II
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[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"][QUOTE="CleanNJerk"][QUOTE="bronxxbombers"] Umm, Buddy, I never said you have no rights. I said, that this is how system wars works. It wont change. You wont change it. So instead of asking why, you just go with it. It makes no sense here buddy. Live with it buddy. Or leave buddy. Take your pick buddy. There is no such thing as productive in system wars. Newcomers arent encouraged, buddy, because, like you buddy, they make threads like this, buddy, and dont generally understand how it works here Buddy.

Wow buddy, you sure are a mess.. No offense.

No buddy, I believe you just got messed up. System Wars style. Buddy. ;)

Ironically, you are the only one who didn't answer his question.
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#41 bronxxbombers
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[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"][QUOTE="bronxxbombers"][QUOTE="CleanNJerk"] Wow buddy, you sure are a mess.. No offense.

No buddy, I believe you just got messed up. System Wars style. Buddy. ;)

Ironically, you are the only one who didn't answer his question.

Shall I answer then? Well buddy. Sales matter because this here is a war. And in order to win you need a couple things. Good games, good graphics, and good sales. For example. The dreamcast. Great games. Sales fizzled out. Lost. The xbox. Great games. Great graphics. Didnt sell. It lost. If the mass market doesnt buy your console, or game, its not successful. You could have a AAAAAAE, but if it sells 10k copies, the masses has no interest in it. The masses are important in system wars. Were only a very small percentage, and the majority of people here hate anything popular. So sales are a great way to tell if something is popular. But, you have to understand too, ratings also count. But if you only get one, your not gonna do to well. Good enough for you?