Why do we pretend that we have reached the highest graphics level?

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#1 True_Gamer_
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGVw70YYQqc

How far is the day that games will run on the above level of graphics 1080p 60fps on reasonable hardware? IMO anything we have seen to this day looks like cr@p compare to that video.

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#2 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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no one acts like that.

They're just happy with what we have

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#3 strawhatlupi
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graphics is not the problem... its the gameplay that is deteriorating.
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#4 Clock-w0rk
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Gameplay > graphics

OoT > any graphics king ever.

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#5 psymon100
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It's fun to pretend!

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#6 nameless12345
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I'd pick varied, original and fun gameplay over "highest graphics level".

I mean, tech-demos are nice but if there's no good gameplay accomodating them, they are pretty worthless, as games... (of course it's ideal to have both, fantastic visuals as well as gameplay)

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#7 LegatoSkyheart
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no one acts like that.

They're just happy with what we have

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this.

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#8 ManatuBeard
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I dont recall any game that is composed only of close up of faces....

I seem to miss the point of this (stupid) thread.

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#9 sukraj
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Nice faces

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#10 nethernova
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Please show any post where anybody says something like "we have reached the highest graphics level".
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#11 alien1280rhys
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That tech demo looks nice... dare i say i peek out the other side of the Valley?
Anyway, one of the problem is cost; The high fidelity of such a level will increase costs and time, which in turn decreases the amount that can be done to make games longer, buth because of dev time and because of data allowances...
People often look to motion picture 3D animation and say "well look how much better that is! if they can do it, why can't we?" Well, look how long it takes Pixar to do their films... and that's a set piece, with all animations and assets made for one 90 min experience... video games have to create a myriad of animations, characters, environments et cetera for the sake of a players runthrough of an 8 hour plus game :(

Not sure anyone has said it CAN'T be done, but it may be valid to say we are reaching a point of diminishing returns, but hey, maybe I'm wrong to some degree...

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#12 ClassicRockFTW
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Gameplay > graphics

OoT > any graphics king ever.

Clock-w0rk

 

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I bet your think OGF is a 2deep4u movie and best movie this year too.

 

I bet you love pretentious indie games as well.

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#13 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="Clock-w0rk"]

Gameplay > graphics

OoT > any graphics king ever.

ClassicRockFTW

 

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I bet your think OGF is a 2deep4u movie and best movie this year too.

 

I bet you love pretentious indie games as well.

I like pretentious indie games but I'm a graphics whore too! :D
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Who?
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#15 True_Gamer_
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That tech demo looks nice... dare i say i peek out the other side of the Valley?
Anyway, one of the problem is cost; The high fidelity of such a level will increase costs and time, which in turn decreases the amount that can be done to make games longer, buth because of dev time and because of data allowances...
People often look to motion picture 3D animation and say "well look how much better that is! if they can do it, why can't we?" Well, look how long it takes Pixar to do their films... and that's a set piece, with all animations and assets made for one 90 min experience... video games have to create a myriad of animations, characters, environments et cetera for the sake of a players runthrough of an 8 hour plus game :(

Not sure anyone has said it CAN'T be done, but it may be valid to say we are reaching a point of diminishing returns, but hey, maybe I'm wrong to some degree...

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Compare that head to anything you see next gen or best of PC games....Nothing dimishing the sky is the limit.
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#16 ramonnl
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Who cares about a floating head? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPJF-IY2vZ4 is much more interesting for games!

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#17 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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no one acts like that.

They're just happy with what we have

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#18 jake44
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no one acts like that.

They're just happy with what we have

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#19 Stinger78
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGVw70YYQqc

How far is the day that games will run on the above level of graphics 1080p 60fps on reasonable hardware? IMO anything we have seen to this day looks like cr@p compare to that video.

True_Gamer_
The head and face of "Psycho" in Crysis 3 looks very similar.
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#20 TheEroica  Moderator
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I can't even consptualize how to control a game like that... My grandkids may.  Yeah, like sean said, I'm good.

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#21 whiskeystrike
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There's no pretending, I just don't care about huge improvements right now. There are a lot of other things this industry needs to work on. Getting everyone to 1440P and 120 FPS isn't really one of them.

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#22 Ribnarak
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[QUOTE="strawhatlupi"]graphics is not the problem... its the gameplay that is deteriorating.

so true. honestly im happy with uncharted type graphics. I just wish we'd have better gameplay. More missions, more choices, challenging puzzles, better ai. I hate how dumbed down games have gotten. I love challenges. it'd be awesome if games were made so that you have to actually THINK about what to do. When games are difficult and you have to actually get help from an external source, thats when (imo obviously) it gets fun.
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#23 True_Gamer_
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There's no pretending, I just don't care about huge improvements right now. There are a lot of other things this industry needs to work on. Getting everyone to 1440P and 120 FPS isn't really one of them.

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What the resolution and frames have to do with my OP?
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#24 Netret0120
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I don't care. If the game is fun, that is all that matters.
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#25 rjdofu
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Ultra realistic graphics are not what I'm looking for in a game, I'd even say that I'm against those direction. I want buttery smooth gameplay with vibrant, crisp and creative designs.
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#26 True_Gamer_
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Ultra realistic graphics are not what I'm looking for in a game, I'd even say that I'm against those direction. I want buttery smooth gameplay with vibrant, crisp and creative designs.rjdofu
Lets stay then on PS2 that can run perfectly stylised graphics at no cost.
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#27 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="rjdofu"]Ultra realistic graphics are not what I'm looking for in a game, I'd even say that I'm against those direction. I want buttery smooth gameplay with vibrant, crisp and creative designs.True_Gamer_
Lets stay then on PS2 that can run perfectly stylised graphics at no cost.

Did I mention "crisp" somewhere in my comment?
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#28 TheEroica  Moderator
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gameplay is dead... unless you play indie.  *runs away*

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#29 XxR3m1xInHDn3D
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Graphics aren't as important as gameplay and gameplay is awful in a majority of genres nowadays. The only games where gameplay doesn't matter as much are the ones that are truly ahead of their time like Crysis 1 where you could get enjoyment out of the graphics alone
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#30 deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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Because we already have reached the highest graphics level. The Cell on PS3 is so powerful it has the ability to process graphics in a resolution beyond what our eyes can see, making it above photorealism. Sadly, Sony didn't want this technology in the wrong hands so they had to limit it's capabilities.

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#31 Sushiglutton
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Haven't heard that
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#32 treedoor
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Some gamers think that, mainly cows, because they haven't left their basement in years. They've forgotten what real life looks like.

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#33 deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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Gameplay > graphics

OoT > any graphics king ever.

Clock-w0rk
just let the game die its glorius death already.
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#34 consoletroll
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These guys do 3d scanning for multiple game companies- check out this tech demo 

http://ir-ltd.net/tag/tech-demo/

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#35 Jankarcop
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graphics is not the problem... its the gameplay that is deteriorating.strawhatlupi

Both gfx and gameplay suck on consoles. 

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#36 GarGx1
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Because the PS3 and Xbox 360 have been around so long, that many console gamers don't realise just how far behind they actually are.

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#37 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Gameplay > graphics

OoT > any graphics king ever.

Clock-w0rk

Pretty much this.. While "fans" are dry humping the shiney new graphics, they are allowing the dumbing down of numerous genres in which games are in fact taking numerous steps back in numerous genres..

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#38 PsychoLemons
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no one acts like that.

They're just happy with what we have

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